How to Mount a Tubular Road Bike Tire

[communitychef]

I agree MrJmazing, that is one great tune. Who is the artist?

[NsOSnipSU]

Agree.. Never stretch a tire like that. You should only do this by mounting it on the rim (without cement of course) the day before, and inflate to maximum pressure.

[mikeylee2001]

You never want to stretch the tire like that.

[MrJmazing1]

Hey, what's the title of the musical track that plays throughout and where can I find it?

[chanrobi]

Ridiculuosly misleading infromation in this video. FFS.

1) Stretching the tyre by pulling on it, SPECIFICALLY recommended against for conti tyres

2) Tubular tape instead of glue, glue has been SCIENTIFICALLY tested to hold stronger than tape.

3) Leaving a section of rim 'untaped', is dumb. Your tyre WILL roll.

[tueybooo]

i dig this song lol

[pcfxer]

Only issue I have is finding a 700mm tubular tire that has the puncture resistance of the Continental GatorBacks. Good video and if you have the time, recommend some tires for my old Mavic wheel please ;0

[marathonloewe]

Aber wo krieg ich die Schiene fürs Bein her?

[xxxrandomjamezxxx]

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[cyclefagg]

hey great clip. I was a big day for minimum wage workers when i finally got enough money to buy some deep carbon tubular.

This has been handy to get me on the road

[speier]

what happened to that guy's leg? is it broken? looks like we know what happened to the first tubular tire! :)

[equinoxranch]

NEVER pre-stretch a tire. Wutta bunch of new age incompetent idiots.................

[jontihobday]

what does it matter of someone wants to ride carbon, it's not even that expensive anymore. Grow up!

Good video thanks

[62shalaka]

This guy mentions "foil" when talking about the rim tape backing which is plastic. Foil is defined as thin METAL, so it's plastic film, not foil.

I used tubulars a million years ago when I raced bikes and back then, it was glue only, rim tape wasn't around. I never had a failure with glue (either Clement or Vittoria).

Nowadays, it's clinchers for me since I don't race. Try Seca RS clincher tires, they are inexpensive and very high quality.

[gbshaun]

Also, that method of stretching a tire is something to avoid doing. At least 1 manufacturer even now notes this on a tag with the tire (Conti' i think it is).

Far better: pre-mount the tubular. This will teach you how tight it is and to what degree you need to start stretching the tire when you first start mounting it.

[gbshaun]

The spongy Tufo tape may be convenient, but for a rider who is looking for performance, as the deep carbon rim suggests, this is NOT the way to go.

3M Fastack Trim Adhesive (or good tubular glue) will give a more secure mount that absorbs less energy, especially if it's used as a contact adhesive. Remember the tire/rim contact is constantly being compresed and released, so any sponginess will constantly absorb energy.

This is why tires with thinner treads have lower rolling resistance.

[luscious9lips]

@gbshaun: 3m FastTack will eat through the base tape of the tire and cause the tire to separate from the base tape. Effectively this is as dangerous as a tire not glued well to a rim.

[gbshaun]

>>3m FastTack will eat through the base tape of the tire

Not true. when Fast tack was first available in the early-80's Conti used a glue that wasn't compatible with 3M, but they changed that >20 years ago. If there was a problem, the whole cycling world would know about it long long ago!

3M #08031 used properly will never let go prematurely, and doesn't add an inefficient layer of sponge as Tufo tape does. That tape is good to carry for emergencies, but don't make it your regular method.

[luscious9lips]

@gbshaun: I know 3M Fasttack is a good adhesive but I heard it will cause the base tape of the tire to pull away from the tire itself. The result is the base layer is still suck to the rim with the glue in between the base layer and rim. The rest of the tire is detached from the base layer, therefore detached from the rim. There is a vid here showing how to glue tires and the guy talks about it that problem with 3M Fasttack.

[luscious9lips]

@luscious9lips: The vid is Tire Gluing by kenssato. He talks about it @ about 1:02. The vid should be just to the right.

[gbshaun]

>>I heard it will cause the base tape of the tire to pull away from the tire itself.

Haven't seen that happen for about 20 years. If it did, a lot of track riders would be rolling tires !

Even when there was a problem (~'78-'80 & Conti-only I think) it only became evident when removing the tire. I 'm not aware of that ever causing a tire to roll.

[cyclist911]

You forgot to show everyone how to check to see if they glued the tubie on right. I've seen a lot of people crash because they haven't checked their work. Also, don't use TUFO tape, it doesn't work nearly as good as Continental or Vittoria glue. I guess if your a tri guy and are just going to go in a straight line for 56miles then it should be fine, but if not, have fun in the turns!

[starbucks3954]

Doesn't the exposed rim make it unsafe, as in the tire can roll off?

[wiredance]

that's why you're supposed to glue it on :)

[ygatygat]

just wanna ask what tire did you still to the wheel it is 21 or 22?thanks.

[samsation7]

ah....there's nothing like the smell of fresh glue, it's part of the experience.

That said, tufo tape is not bad during a flat. But if you have time, I highly recommend gluing.

[Murry25]

Why in my day we used glue to get it to adhere to the rim. They were called them sew-ups and we used dental floss to sew them up after a repair. Ah, the a prize of a silk makes me shutter with delight. Dang whipper snappers! Bikes are made of carpet fiber now too...gimme steel. LOL Five stars!! UFCF #02937S

[Mach3Multisport]

Thanks, Murry :)

[matycee]

Murray25 you old crusty son of a mother scratcher..it's 'carbon' fiber, Methuselah ....Carbon Fiber.

[Murry25]

No, I've done some faulty research which tell me it is carpet fibers. I mean it could have some funky cat hairs in it and I don't trust cats.

Note, I can't refute the old crusty title you gave me ;)

Take care, JP (Just Pedal)

[dahgutone]

Haha. give a rider between a steel frame or carbon. Carbon fiber is stiffer, 1.5x more stronger and 10x lighter than steel.

Guess what that rider would choose....

Technology has advanced buddy.

[RizzoTheRat121]

yeah, but unless you're cranking along for 200+ kms, you look like a giant douche

[dahgutone]

200kms? Or 200km per hour?

That's 120 miles an hour.. What are you talking about?

If you are a competitive cyclist, you will always demand a lighter bike...

Same goes when you want to drag race with a car...you want a more powerful engine..

If you are a recreational rider, you don't need a a carbon bike. I was responding to the steel bikes towards Murry25. Which today, steel bikes aren't common any more because aluminum frames are lighter and cheaper.

[RizzoTheRat121]

sorry, what i meant was, unless you ride cometitively, or for long (~200km) rides, its pointless to get a carbon frame (or compenents etc), and you'll be a giant douche (you know the type - riding 10k to the cafe and back then spend 4 hours looking for carbon jockey wheels on the internet)

besides, my motto (which i stole) is - don't buy upgrades, ride up grades ;)

imo everyone in competition should have steel bikes (sort of like in the keirin events in japan)

[dahgutone]

Ahahh!

Makes sense.

[Shizord]

Agreed, haha sadly I know the type!

[Shizord]

Also Carbon Fibre is more expensive... So when a fat guy in lycra is riding a 10 grand bike a few kilometres down the road, you have to admit he's a bit of a dickhead

[dahgutone]

GRRRR. I hate those people.

[luscious9lips]

@dahgutone: In a laboratory, carbon might be quantified as being stronger than steel. In real life applications no frame material is stronger than steel. Steel has more fatigue life and a lot better impact (blunt force) resistance than carbon fiber. I'm not denying the greatness of carbon fiber but marketing comes into the equation as well. There are great steel frames with tubing that results in stiff, durable, very smooth and liteweight frames but the is more $ in marketing from CF industry

[luscious9lips]

@luscious9lips: There is more money (profit) in the CF industry. Market forces have a great influence in the decisions and behaviors of consumers. Again, I'm not doubting or denying the greatness of CF; but the question has to be asked "is CF really much better or more necessary than steel?... or is CF another way for the bike industry to make more money by being 'innovative' ?"

[gbshaun]

The ability with CF to add material where you want it, and to build it in an optimal shape rather than have to bend or expand tubes, results in a significantly better product for most applications. You can do things with CF that were simply not possible with steel.

Yes marketing is always there, but that's not what has caused the change to CF. "It's all about performance" !

[davidwill6]

that's actually not true completely, carbon fiber is 32x stronger than steel if you were to try and bend it, but it is much more fragile, for instance, if you were to drop it from a great hight, it would shatter, steel wouldn't. but for a bike frame, carbon is much stronger, because it is the bending force that is applied, not the shattering force.

[Crich775]

@Murry25 haha Murry you just made me smile :)

[MrJmazing1]

@Murry25 Likable 'rant' It made me laugh...

[LondonBaldwin]

Excellent - best I've seen. Cheers.

[patallen04]

Thanks, man!

[ringoffive]

the myth expossed, many thanks!

[keystone350]

thanks

[wilkinsonwl]

Nice...thanks!