1 - fire plug looks nicer in the video because it distributes the spark around, the regular plug fires at the same spot every time - both have merits only an engine dyno will reveal the truth not a pretty video.
2 - Emissions go down - are you kidding! ever heard of NOx?? NOx increases with higher AFR ratio's.
3 - His car car fuel economy went up because he leaned it out! (no manufacturers can do this due to emissions (NOx again)
Out of curiosity i wonder how he got such a lean burn and eliminated the amount of NOx that would build up. As anybody knows, the leaner you run an engine( more air than fuel) means that the Internal temperatures of the engine will skyrocket meaning the that the levels of Oxides Of Nitrogen will fail your car on its MOT due to emissions.
So fitting these plugs to your standard car is really a bad idea unless you have a very very good EGR system and cooling system not to mention an SCR system
The best spark plug is one that can ignite all of the combustion gases at once. Some design are better to make the reaction faster. High voltage is one of those solution. More intense spark also help. But in the end, a spark plug of the same diameter will net around the same result. 2-3-4... spark plugs could net better results, but it,s not economically viable for a marginal gain. In the end, just use long life spark plug. Done
Did these ever get released? I'd love to try some if they are made or sold anywhere and compare...that is the best way to verify. Everything else is just conjecture.
Reducing the air fuel ratio the flame temperature will decrease, as will the flame speed. So if you go lean you need to advance your timing or your pressure volume phasing of the piston / cylinder won't be optimum and you'll end up not using the work potential in the gases and they'll remain hotter than if they did work. So the exhaust temps may increase, but the flame temps will decrease. If you don't change the spark timing to reflect the a/f ratio you won't be at MBT & you'll lose hp.
Reducing the ratio of Air-Fuel lower thant 14,7 to 1 will lean the mixture and the combustion will run hotter causing a drastic raise in Nx. Pointless solution, only viable IF it consume less power to spark, much like Iridium does vs copper sparkplug. A finer tip = less voltage drawn = reduced load on the alternator, thus reduced fuel consumtion/increase power.
@lynel1985 Indeed it's close to none, but as time goes on, the wear on the copper plug is much faster and the gap widen between the electrode and the cathode, thus creating an increasing load on the electrical system, load = losses so more fuel to burn to get the same power output. Copper is good and cheap, but require more maintenance and replacement. Also they don't handle well the newer high high voltage output of newer cars, one of the reason car maker use Iridium.
what an absolute load of shite. running an engine at 24/1? bit lean isnt it. plug may be able to take the heat but are the pistons up to the job? or the Head gasket? where is the extra air comming from? or has it just decreased the fueling? it would run like a bag of shit, and would melt something.
I recomend some 4 prong Bosch platinum plugs,a Bosch 02 sensor and premium wires,valve adjustment and timing belt check or belt replacement.And you should be good.
What are you crazy! if you can add and subtract this would be an inexpensive test for improving my gas mialage. But there is the auto makers computors using the exhaust air to maintain the fuel in there to regulate how much fuel is remaining unburned for the cat ot evaporate. Big vicious circle... There is no stoping these fuel waisters tactics.
if a spark plug ignites the gas air mixture it's about as good as it's gonna get. a huge ass spark the size of this guys' mothers penis would not make any bit of a difference in horse power/mpgs. LOAD OF SHIT
These plugs do not need replacing for almost the life of the vehicle. They've shown threw experimental evidence that the electrode break-down and wear is almost non-existent. Now you know why they can't be found on the market, because you would never need to replace your sparkplugs again.
Do not use split fire plugs, little pieces of the y-shaped electrode can break off in your motor. It happend on my 1972 ford, and the plugs where less than 6 months old. After my truck was not running right i pulled the plugs out and part of the electrode on one of them was missing. And no the pistion was not hitting the plug So o got my scope out and sure enough the top of the pistion and the clynder wall were trashed, They refuse to pay for my motor.
playing around with air/fuel mixtures is not recomened. The reason why fuel is burnt at 14.7 is because of the chamber temp it produces during the power stroke. Any modification to the air ratio will create higher temps and of course start to burn and melt things...Im sure the only thing that will survive that meltdown will be those spark plugs.....
Engines run 14.7:1 because of poor spark plug and engine design. Most of the heat an engine collects is from post mix combustion during the exhaust stroke. This can be clearly seen when you run an engine without exhaust manifolds and blue flames are shooting out the exhaust ports.
Lean the engine out the 22 or 24:1 and there is no fuel left to burn during the exhaust stroke so the engine runs cooler.
What are you talking about? Post mix combustion? we are not talking about injecting fuel and oxygen seperatly. You should read up on stoichiometrics regarding gasolene and air mix which is 14.7 and cant be altered unless your engine is made from something that can withstand higher temps.
The spark plugs that are specal will ignite the mix under adverse conditions like high compressions. The iridiums do this with aprox 5000volts less than your normal plug giving you a strong flame kernal.
@kermit30au No, not really, any current engine design can run 24:1 without burning up assuming you have plugs that can fire that lean F/A load, in fact you can do away with the radiator system just like in Smokey Yunick's adiabatic engine designs of the 1980's that ran lean combustion.
think about that for a sec. he never said he added more air. They state that the air:fuel ratio is changed. the ECU can change the lenght of the injector pulse thus changing the ratio base on all of the engine monitoring sensors. The more effectively an engine can burn gas the less time the injectors pulse for. that is why worn out plugs adversly affect MPG ratings of the car. so there is no extra air there is less fuel wich increases the air:fuel ratio. but that is alot to expect from a plug.
@SY1WEK When they talk about extra air, they are talking about the air to fuel ratio. They worded it funny. They should have just said it needs less fuel. From what I can see it burns the gas more completely so you'll need less gas.
Look like to use a plug of this shape and size the chamber is going to have to be redesigned and that big plug might burn the piston from being to close maybe
I started using Splitfire plugs because my engine stuttered and stalled at slow speeds under load in the colder weather. I only use premium fuel (engine requires 89 octane which really stutters). Since using splitfires I have had no such problem. No BS they work!
Hoax. Engines are designed to run at the optimal (stoichiometric) fuel-air-ratio. This is called the running on ratio. There is fixed amount of oxygen needed to combust gasoline (a hydrocarbon) to yield H2O and CO2 and energy. Increasing the air will not increase the energy yield. In fact, energy will be diverted from useful work by heating the excess air that otherwise inertly passes thru the system.
Here is another problem they will have to solve. That huge electrode pertruding into the combustion chamber, messes up the air flow that mixes the fuel and air. Bosch platium 4 plugs currently have this problem on several cars. Their 4 prong ground messes up the air fuel mixture flow. Those firestorm plugs look much bigger in that area. How do thet plan to cure the problem Bosch currently has?
You may think I'm looking just for problems, but I'd be happy if this worked. But I see 2 many prob.s
A little science about the fraud of splitfire plugs company that makes firestorm plugs. Anytime you split a spark, you also split the voltage of that spark. Low voltage sparks are hot enough to ignite the fuel. The picture splitfire made that shows the split spark was trick photography. That was one of the things the Federal Trade Commision fined them for. Knowingly frauding the consumer. Google "ftc splitfire" and you can read all about it.
Does anyone remember Popular Mechanics front page with Prof. Oppenheimer's plasma spark plug? Circa late 70 to early 80's? It had a small opening at the end of the threads, and the electrod was located deep in the plug. Compression forced f/a into the chamber and extreme high voltage stripped electrons off, spraying them into the rest of the f/a, creating multiple points of ignition. I recall his experiments were firing AFR's of 24:1. Could this account for the reaction K is claiming?
ikester7579 krupa and camera tricks....are you kidding?.....let's look at this techonlogy which is at the moment almost replicated......first off there is no polishing or camera tricks.....your are being childish, in your loss of answers to explain what is going on......if you have looked into paul pantone and stanley meyer then you will understand exactly what is being creating here in the firestorm spark plugs.....so let's start.
1. modern day spark plugs have been getting smaller and smaller. there contact electrodes are very tiny adn ignition coils have also been getting smaller and smaller....thus a smaller spark and a less combustive reaction.
2. krupa had used older style ignition coils, coils delivering much higher energy outputs, he also changed the contact points on the spark plugs to hte shape of intersecting smei circles.....thus the spark would jump across many more contact points rather than just one point .....one contact point will lead to the failure of a spark plug over time.
3. by using energy in the kilojoule range one would notice that this would instantly weld the electrode gap...well how does one get around that......we hold back current and let voltage rise, still using the same power wattage....this still is a plasma (ionizing the air in between the electrodes) but we have an incredibly high potential pressure or stress forming inside this plasma ball.....
now anyone who has replicated a stanley meyer fuel cell knows this is the methodology for splitting water.....and anyone who understands the geet process or has replicated it understands that plasma has the power to break hydrocarbons into simpler elements and in some cases transfrom elements...which is still unexplainable effect in plasma.....
so not only are we capable of completely tweaking the usage and power output of our gasoline to air ratio to upwards of 40:1....yes and that is correct 40 parts air to 1 part gasoline....without the creation of N2O and a 90 percent decrease in pollution just as paul pantones geet fuel reformer.....but we can also do fuel mixtures of 75 water and 25 gasoline using methodologies from stanley meyer.
Bosch tested the plug and found it to be exactly what Krupula said it to be. However, Bosch rejected it because they almost never wear out, and that is not good for a business that survives on "Consumables." We suffer because it is too good. This is the truth!
ikester7579 you have no idea what your talking about....read his 3 patents, notice that the other video on here labeled ball spark plug IS NOT A FIRESTORM PLUG and is some australian guy trying to replicate it.....you are a load of bs and disinformation....anyone who is interested listen to the radio interview of krupa on blog talk radio.
Firestorm plugs are made by the same people who made splitfire. Just type into any search engine: "Splitfire plug ftc" and everyone will see who is the load of BS. I'd like to see you explain your way out of all the false claims that splitfire made and got fined for? They do make the firestorm plug, right? So what makes you think that if they ripped everybody off then that they would not do it agina now?
Explain to us your logic on this? Unless you are getting a cut of the rip off?
They have not made the plugs yet, I am speaking w/Krupa at the time being, he needs investors and I assure you the thing is far from a hoax. Its made by high voltage really.
Click on the video to the right that says: Ball spark plug. And see a test of the firestorm plug. You will notice that the spark generated there is nothing compared to what you see in the video on this page.
Camera tricks will get you everytime. So like I said, the chamber was polished so the the spark would show up better. In the other video there is no polished chamber, so the spark is no better. What a hoax.
Also, one of the problems with splitfire plugs was the huge ground electrode. It messed up the circulation of the air and gas which caused uneven burn. Now notice how big this thing is that the firestorm plug has. And it's going to be sticking way into the combustion chamber. Red flag.
When they show the plugs firing, notice that the chamber on the left the metal is polished to reflect light.
Also notice what the guy says. It's compressed with nitrogen gas. And then he claims that is what your engines runs on? I don't think so. Nitrogen is produced under combustion conditions. But in a very small percent. What is manly in the chamber is oxygen, and when burned carbon monoxide and oxygen and a very small percent of nitrogen. So here again there is a problem.
You should know that they say the person who thought this up also thought up split fire plugs. Split fire plugs got into trouble with the FTC for making false claims. Just type in "splitfire ftc" into any search engine, look for the ftc gov site and you can read all about it. Because the same people who did this now have this plug makes me wonder of this is not just another case of false claims. Read and decide.
This is great. Bosh is interested someone else is interested and noone ever sings any contract and never will!! Is this not clear for anyone??? Who is gonna make money for oil companies if your car will run with 40% gas savings? Invented something: go public as wide as you can OR you and your inventions will die..
This is a great product...if it existed! Does anyone know when these little jewels will go on sale...if at all? Whether Mr. krupula is being suppressed or paid to sit and spin is anyone's guess. but I feel he would sell them if he could.
24:1 AFR? sorry, but thats not going to happen no matter what SPARK PLUGS you use. stoichiometrically balanced AFR is 14.7:1(unless you change the fuel)
im not saying that a spark that much stronger wont give you better performance or economy, a strong ignition spark always does, but there are some rules with internal combustion engines that cant be changed. if you were to run a 24:1 AFR without detonation, you would only be using about 1/2 the air in the cylinders.
Bob is still in the process of getting a manufacturing facility up and running.
Nobody will make them because once cars are equipped (new or retrofit) there will be no need for replacement plugs and they'll put themselves out of business. Only new car production will need the plugs. Why build something that doesn't wear out? Because you're in it for the right reasons instead of just blind profit!
...and a means of precisely holding the ball concentric with the center anode while you weld... and a way to precisely form and then hold the arched cathodes while you weld.
If you want a good example of over unitytake a look at the current vehicles that we drive. There are 2 forces that create the movement of our everyday gas powered car. First there is a 12volt Battery, the second force is the pressure applied to the gas pedal. Run your car 120 MPH into a brick wall and feel the differnce between that and someone stepping on your foot while you touch the 2 ends of a 12 volt battery.
they are not suitable for normal cars,i have a box of them and are going to have a play with them doing ht/plasma experiments,iv seen lots of standard plugs used on the tube doing them
but no race plugs,the ones i got ,have the earth coming through the side of the body,
the spark plug companys dont want to make them because it would put them out of business. Having a plug that lasts 10 times longer....they want you to change them and buy new ones
You can ask the same question about why we don't have 80 mpg cars. Oh wait, I know the reason. The oil companies want there money. These small companies got bought out.
Stuff like this always seem "almost to market" don't they? I WANT to believe, I'd buy them, who wouldn't If they really work, why are they not out yet-I emailed the inventor; he said he was seting up a web-site or something...it's not there anymore...
Look up the size of hydrogen, and oxygen in chemistry oriented sites. sum the volumes.
convert that to a sphere with that given volume. now take distance across sphere.
thats your wave length=W. 1/w is frequency.
Then test around that spectrum woth around 200-1000 watts power. Use great care, and do not do it in your house. If you accidentally etherialize the water, the force in lbs./sqare inch is enormous. Do it in a shed @ 100 feet away from you and anything you care about.
Incorrect. An EM FIELD in a uniform medium may expand from its origin in a spherical fashion... or it may not, depending; but that doesn't mean that an EM WAVE is a sphere.
As for igniting the fuel-air mix, I really don't see what an improved spark can do that the initial flame front from an ordinary spark cannot. There is no need to adjust the "frequency" to match any aspect of the fuel; ignition doesn't work that way.
The resonant freq. of water is irrelevant; water is an ash, not a fuel, and no amount of pseudoscientific gobbledeygook will make it otherwise.
Uh... an EM wave is not a "sphere" (it has no "surface", so there is no notion of "the size of the sphere"). It is created by electric and magnetic fields at right angles to each other (doesn't really matter which is "horizontal", all is relative). In any case spark plugs are not fed by alternating current... Time-varying current, certainly, but not of any particular freq.
Sorry, but it's a hoax. Anybody who paying attention in a first-year science program will agree. They won't change their minds after they get a PhD, either.
Why don't you Google
hyperphysics hydrogen electrolysis
and read the first hit (at phy-astr dot gsu dot edu ).
As for MY credentials, if I did post them you would just say I copied them from someone else or made them up, so what would be the point? I have spelled out the truth for you several times; that is all you need.
You even read the document? You are a idiot for sure. Over-unity has been documented by metal forming industry on 'water arc acceleration' THIS IS FACT.. You have no clue on topics of Plasma disassociation. Get a life already.
It isn't overunity, and plasma disassociation obeys the same rules as everything else: You can't get out what you don't put in. If you put water in and you get water out (balanced), then the energy must be balanced also -- ideally; in actual practice there is always an energy LOSS.
There has NEVER been a credible experiment, other than nuclear reactions, that disproves conservation of energy; and nuclear reactions still obey c. of mass-energy. If you disagree, please point to where it is documented in an established, peer-reviewed journal.
Million? you are a piker. If you achieve overunity you are in line for billions, PLUS a Nobel prize, with accolades that will dwarf those given to Einstein, Fermi, Feynmann, and Gell-mann COMBINED. I await reports of your success.
It's interesting to note who continues to stoop to personal insult here, and who has NEVER responded to entirely reasonable questions about his supposed creations. To repeat, for example: if you have observed increased voltage AND current out vs. in, why can't your device power itself in a loop?
(But don't feel bad; Joseph Newman can't answer that one either.)
...and one year later, these supposed spark plugs are not on the market, are not in use by NASCAR or any other racing venue, are in fact completely unheard-of outside of a few obviously self-promoting web sites.
Nor have we heard anything more about the millions sirHOAX expected to make.
Plans for all manner of "Free energy devices" have been on the web forever, but nowhere do we hear of anyone powering their house with one, or even a flashlight. (Imagine my surprise.)
And yet, no one in the entire world seems to have managed to build one of these things, routed part of its own output to its own input, and so made a self-sustaining "free energy device."
(Note Steorn's miserable failure back in April...)
And you ask ME for MY experiments??? I don't need to run an experiment to convince myself that 2+2=4.
People like you discover nothing and at the same time do nothing for humanity as a whole. If the future of humanity was left in the hands of people like yourself the world would be fucked for sure.
Sit on the sideline, keep the bench warm. While we put all the secrets together and make this happen, and post it on youtube for the world to see.
Like so many before you, you confuse technology with physical laws. "People like me" include people who split the atom, who went to the moon, and who built the microprocessor. NOT by thinking they could ignore long-established physical laws, but by starting from what was already known and working forward. That's how progress is made.
Incidently, electrolysis cells run best on pure DC. Anything else does nothing but heat the water.
Yea, I'm sure you went to the moon and split the atom.
Post a video of your "inventions" then we will talk credibility. Otherwise your pulling this information out of your ass.
You have no evidence to conclude anything based upon real fact. Your all "theory" and that approach is entirely wrong if history is correct on discovery.
Man, you are getting feeble. I said "people like me"; never said *I* went to the moon. Videos on the web are the easisest things in the world to fake (see the videos of the "Perendev generator", for example, and of the "Meyer water car", and the "Aquygen" stuff, none of which do one whit to actually prove their claims). As for "no evidence"??? Dear boy, the evidence is ALL on my side. Not ONE experiment has EVER shown a conservation violation. Yours won't either.
All of your comments along these lines are very standard complaints from "free energy" types. "You have a closed mind," "you're just being negative," blah blah blah.
Eventually, if YOU keep an open mind (which you have shown no evidence of so far), you will find that 2+2=4 on your bench just as it does on mine. The sooner you learn that, the sooner you will have a chance of actually doing something productive. But I'm not betting on that happening, ever.
Post a video of your accomplishments, experiments, and background of your study. Show us "who you are" to us. Otherwise we are probably talking to the manager at Walmart, and your credibility is in question.
You have no basis for your claims, you have no scientific degree. In some sick and twisted way you think Google has issued it to you.
You are unskilled and incompetent to be telling us what is and what isn't. --Simple
Your pathetic Laws of physics have been broken by LARGE industry from time to time. You think they post that for the world to know about it? What world do you live in? Disney Land? Seriously.
The mining, and metal industry has broken your little Faraday Laws with exploding water with high-voltage. They can not explain the over-unity. --haha--
This is fact, go Google it. If it happened once, then it could happen again.
No overunity, just measurement error. It is EXTREMELY difficult to correctly measure heat energy (this is the error made by the original "cold fusion" proponents); it is even more difficult to do so any time high transients are involved.
I don't need to establish *my* credibility. I just have to point to the sceince and technology section of the library. ANY library. What I'm telling you is what you will find there. You don't have to discredit me; you have to discredit ALL of those authors.
Negative people often resist positive change in a fashion that is very destructive to society. Good luck in your religious dedication to posting negative comments, but never offering any positive action. You do not know what your talking about. You talk like a typical Company educated mechanic. You dialogue follows the same negative trend. If the world only had people as intelligent and positive as you we'd still be pulling around wagons on square wheels.
Actually, I talk like someone who knows that the conservation laws cannot be sidestepped with a few funny waveforms. On the other hand, even so-called "true RMS reading" meters can be completely fooled by such... and even if not, you still don't know the phase angle... so you have no idea how much power you're really seeing.
Honestly now, do you do you work for a petro chemical Co. If the only ways to organize energy in sympathetic manners, as a response to initally organized energies, is: with funny tricky wave forms... Of course you will fail every time, because any sysmetrical system of energy in a closed circuite will always just come in under the unity line at best... Bet then you are also side stepping the issue of separation of mass and charge.
Yes! And H2O -> H2 + 1/2 O2 -> H2O is such a closed "loop." The H2O at the end is in the same energy state as that at the beginning, therefore this process can yield no net energy "output," no matter how you do the first step.
The energy is in the process and regeneration like fusion reactors or cold plasma reactors. This does work and I've made similar results - see sr1m191
Now you're claiming that fusion happens in a spark plug? (Will the idiocy never end?) Or are you just saying you made similar measurement errors as Fleischmann and Pons? LOL!
and I would like to see your web site showing conclusive proof of your views. These people at least offer something, and you in your state of professional jealousy, sit here waiting to tear down support for a better system. At least I actually contacted this man and offered to help set up a CNC shop in New England. Remember when this stuff dose come out, stick to your guns and keep burning that petrol. Some people should be glued to their antequated belief systems...
I posted the link to the hyperphysics site already. Beyond that, you and sirHOAX (telling sn there) are the ones making the claims that violate long-established principles, e.g. conservation of energy -- so you are the ones who need to provide proof.
There IS a mathematical proof that ALL conservation laws are correct... as long as the physical laws and constants of the universe are, well, constant. Look up "Noether's theorem."
Seriously, if you can really achieve overunity with your toroidal transformer as you claimed, you don't need to bother with the "splitting water" step. Just run the output back to the input and tap off the excess. You will have a generator of completely free electric energy. It will make you a billionaire, at least, AND win you a Nobel prize in physics. I await news of your recognition!
This is coming from who again? Where is your scientific degree in physics? Where are your experiments that clearly show evidence of these "theories" not working.
Tell me what experiments have you conducted in the past, other than changing your spark plugs.
Otherwise your all hot-air. Go rant-n-rave on craigslist where you are welcome. Take your diseased thinking elsewhere.
Experiments confirming the conservation laws, and the Gibbs free energy states of the various chemical bonds in question, have been done *at least* tens of thousands of times. But, hey, you have an "open mind" and that's better than actually knowing something about the field, right? By all means, try it. Knock yourself out.
Will do, at the moment I am working on a closed loop HHO production heating system.
Honestly, if it does work I am going to market with it.
A millionaire will be born every week with the new technologies that are arising because of non-conformist inventors. So play by the rules see where that gets you, or maybe you already have that is why you are complaining.
"Non-conformist" does not mean you can ignore the way the universe works. To the best of anyone's understanding, the universe obeys the conservation laws. If I'm reading your claims correctly, you believe you have found exceptions to those laws. You can believe whatever you want, but if you expect anyone else to, you're the one who has to provide proof of your claims - extraordinary proof, at that.
Einstein came up with e=mc2 because he had very fertile imagination not because of pure science principles.Riding a beam of light and using deduction theories, not what was universally accepted... was his way of doing things
Actually he can run gasoline even leaner than 24:1 and still sustains proper combustion. Firestorm spark plugs also allow engines to idle at 250 rpm, which is not possible with conventional spark plugs.
As for reinventing gasoline, that was already patented by Rudolf Gunnerman.
Well, sure. ANY ratio greater than 14.7 to 1 will "sustain proper combustion." But it won't deliver as much power per unit volume as 14.7 to 1, because 14.7 to 1 is the proper stochiometric ratio. Add any more air than that and, sure, you can still burn all of the gas... what there is of it. But some of the oxygen in that air is not going to be involved in combustion. You're just moving it from intake to exhaust. I have better things for my engine's displacement to do, thank you very much.
You'll never get an engine to run 24:1 with convention spark plugs. The problem with 14.7:1 is that this ratio was not picked for it's power or efficiency, but because it's what the conventional engine needs to operate reasonably well in many respects.
The lean burn engine on the other hand, eliminates many of the handicaps that 14.7:1 imposes. To get the most power from the engine the fuel must burn and expand during the power stroke, and not during the exhaust stroke like 14.7:1 engines do.
we must make our own ... dont forget the plasma ignition ... advancing the spark and leaning out the gas mixture
JOOODYJOOODY 1 week ago
wow so many faults with this video:
1 - fire plug looks nicer in the video because it distributes the spark around, the regular plug fires at the same spot every time - both have merits only an engine dyno will reveal the truth not a pretty video.
2 - Emissions go down - are you kidding! ever heard of NOx?? NOx increases with higher AFR ratio's.
3 - His car car fuel economy went up because he leaned it out! (no manufacturers can do this due to emissions (NOx again)
men8ifr 2 months ago
these can be made home made.
bikr1975 3 months ago in playlist cars and ideas
Just look at this :
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MrKrisskool 5 months ago
It is now 2011 and where are this SparkPlugs ? Like to BUY ! ! !
petergrote1911 6 months ago
@petergrote1911 I received a reply from Robert Krupa a couple of days ago. He said that they should be ready by the end of the year.
brianwesley28 5 months ago
Out of curiosity i wonder how he got such a lean burn and eliminated the amount of NOx that would build up. As anybody knows, the leaner you run an engine( more air than fuel) means that the Internal temperatures of the engine will skyrocket meaning the that the levels of Oxides Of Nitrogen will fail your car on its MOT due to emissions.
So fitting these plugs to your standard car is really a bad idea unless you have a very very good EGR system and cooling system not to mention an SCR system
JTFOCoD4 9 months ago
4 years later & still nothing at this rate I'll be dead before they hit the market.
maybe Krappa Krupa should utilize all that hot air he's got for improved fuel efficiency.
panzermacher 10 months ago
The best spark plug is one that can ignite all of the combustion gases at once. Some design are better to make the reaction faster. High voltage is one of those solution. More intense spark also help. But in the end, a spark plug of the same diameter will net around the same result. 2-3-4... spark plugs could net better results, but it,s not economically viable for a marginal gain. In the end, just use long life spark plug. Done
FNK7NK 11 months ago
Did these ever get released? I'd love to try some if they are made or sold anywhere and compare...that is the best way to verify. Everything else is just conjecture.
HybridWaterMan2 1 year ago
FAIL
rb26capri 1 year ago
Reducing the air fuel ratio the flame temperature will decrease, as will the flame speed. So if you go lean you need to advance your timing or your pressure volume phasing of the piston / cylinder won't be optimum and you'll end up not using the work potential in the gases and they'll remain hotter than if they did work. So the exhaust temps may increase, but the flame temps will decrease. If you don't change the spark timing to reflect the a/f ratio you won't be at MBT & you'll lose hp.
Rommetje9 1 year ago
Which Spark Plug is butter Bosch Platinum Ir Fusion spark plugs or E3 spark plugs or Accel Silver Tip spark plugs
01152618 1 year ago
Reducing the ratio of Air-Fuel lower thant 14,7 to 1 will lean the mixture and the combustion will run hotter causing a drastic raise in Nx. Pointless solution, only viable IF it consume less power to spark, much like Iridium does vs copper sparkplug. A finer tip = less voltage drawn = reduced load on the alternator, thus reduced fuel consumtion/increase power.
FNK7NK 1 year ago
@FNK7NK copper is much more conductive then iridium, but the difference still isnt going ot have a measurable differnce on fuel economy
lynel1985 11 months ago
@lynel1985 Indeed it's close to none, but as time goes on, the wear on the copper plug is much faster and the gap widen between the electrode and the cathode, thus creating an increasing load on the electrical system, load = losses so more fuel to burn to get the same power output. Copper is good and cheap, but require more maintenance and replacement. Also they don't handle well the newer high high voltage output of newer cars, one of the reason car maker use Iridium.
FNK7NK 11 months ago
having a 24/1 compression ratio would pre-ignite the gas wouldnt it? so these plugs are pointless.
ThundareRed 1 year ago
@ThundareRed He didn't say 24/1 compression ratio, he 24:1 air to fuel ratio.
Martin00028Guitar 1 year ago
what an absolute load of shite. running an engine at 24/1? bit lean isnt it. plug may be able to take the heat but are the pistons up to the job? or the Head gasket? where is the extra air comming from? or has it just decreased the fueling? it would run like a bag of shit, and would melt something.
Baptisteiom 1 year ago
suck
hafizzuzu 1 year ago
I recomend some 4 prong Bosch platinum plugs,a Bosch 02 sensor and premium wires,valve adjustment and timing belt check or belt replacement.And you should be good.
unclearchie69 1 year ago
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unclearchie69 1 year ago
is anyone selling these plugs?
What are you crazy! if you can add and subtract this would be an inexpensive test for improving my gas mialage. But there is the auto makers computors using the exhaust air to maintain the fuel in there to regulate how much fuel is remaining unburned for the cat ot evaporate. Big vicious circle... There is no stoping these fuel waisters tactics.
Keep up the good fight Krupa! you are a hero!
h2ocommuter 2 years ago
if a spark plug ignites the gas air mixture it's about as good as it's gonna get. a huge ass spark the size of this guys' mothers penis would not make any bit of a difference in horse power/mpgs. LOAD OF SHIT
WC9456 2 years ago
1988 called. They want their 'info-mercial' back.
DrMotorDude 2 years ago 7
@DrMotorDude those plugs are a kcrock of bs
michaelstokley1970 1 year ago
@DrMotorDude~ HAHA!
marek0086 1 year ago
Can you say FRAUD
dlagrua 2 years ago
These plugs do not need replacing for almost the life of the vehicle. They've shown threw experimental evidence that the electrode break-down and wear is almost non-existent. Now you know why they can't be found on the market, because you would never need to replace your sparkplugs again.
sirHOAX 2 years ago
These plugs look like a joke to me lol
english20002000 2 years ago
Do not use split fire plugs, little pieces of the y-shaped electrode can break off in your motor. It happend on my 1972 ford, and the plugs where less than 6 months old. After my truck was not running right i pulled the plugs out and part of the electrode on one of them was missing. And no the pistion was not hitting the plug So o got my scope out and sure enough the top of the pistion and the clynder wall were trashed, They refuse to pay for my motor.
english20002000 2 years ago
playing around with air/fuel mixtures is not recomened. The reason why fuel is burnt at 14.7 is because of the chamber temp it produces during the power stroke. Any modification to the air ratio will create higher temps and of course start to burn and melt things...Im sure the only thing that will survive that meltdown will be those spark plugs.....
kermit30au 2 years ago
Engines run 14.7:1 because of poor spark plug and engine design. Most of the heat an engine collects is from post mix combustion during the exhaust stroke. This can be clearly seen when you run an engine without exhaust manifolds and blue flames are shooting out the exhaust ports.
Lean the engine out the 22 or 24:1 and there is no fuel left to burn during the exhaust stroke so the engine runs cooler.
BriscoCountyJr23 2 years ago
What are you talking about? Post mix combustion? we are not talking about injecting fuel and oxygen seperatly. You should read up on stoichiometrics regarding gasolene and air mix which is 14.7 and cant be altered unless your engine is made from something that can withstand higher temps.
The spark plugs that are specal will ignite the mix under adverse conditions like high compressions. The iridiums do this with aprox 5000volts less than your normal plug giving you a strong flame kernal.
kermit30au 2 years ago
@kermit30au No, not really, any current engine design can run 24:1 without burning up assuming you have plugs that can fire that lean F/A load, in fact you can do away with the radiator system just like in Smokey Yunick's adiabatic engine designs of the 1980's that ran lean combustion.
BriscoCountyJr23 2 years ago
AYA HIRANO
SuzumiyaHaruhi0 2 years ago
Well ladies and gents you can kiss this spark plug goodbye or at the very least file in file 13.
One good friend of mine decided to give it a whurl and try and invest in this fairy tale!
Something in the back of his mind thought it was not right, so he merely forwarded 2,500 of the millions they were willing to invest.
Since then not only will Krupa not signed a liscensing agreement he is MIA from any phone calls and will not respond.
I think he is tipping the Jack Danniels myself
rick456545 2 years ago
bob, where the hell are you,
the monster
wolflorddan 2 years ago
Rubbish. No such thing as giving more horsepower, fuel consumption, blah blah blah.
TheWhiteCruiser 2 years ago
Load of shit.... a spark plug is designed to deliver spark after the compression cycle not increasing mpg by allowing more air....
where is this "extra air" coming from?
the only thing i believe are these plugs to last longer not work more efficiently
SY1WEK 2 years ago
think about that for a sec. he never said he added more air. They state that the air:fuel ratio is changed. the ECU can change the lenght of the injector pulse thus changing the ratio base on all of the engine monitoring sensors. The more effectively an engine can burn gas the less time the injectors pulse for. that is why worn out plugs adversly affect MPG ratings of the car. so there is no extra air there is less fuel wich increases the air:fuel ratio. but that is alot to expect from a plug.
lovemym16 2 years ago
@SY1WEK When they talk about extra air, they are talking about the air to fuel ratio. They worded it funny. They should have just said it needs less fuel. From what I can see it burns the gas more completely so you'll need less gas.
heman1320 1 year ago
@SY1WEK : It's not the extra air, it's a reduces Air-Fuel ratio.
FNK7NK 1 year ago
what was I thinking, what a fool I am....bring it on ..I'll stick them in my car...have always wanted melted pistons.....cool.!!!
CLEETHORPES1972 2 years ago
sounds like a load of bull to me...alter the air fuel ratio??? what a great idea.....
CLEETHORPES1972 2 years ago
lol looks like you need to open your eyes cleet.
and yes you have been lied to all your life kid.
hope they get this out soon.
Peace
KrimReefa 2 years ago
Look like to use a plug of this shape and size the chamber is going to have to be redesigned and that big plug might burn the piston from being to close maybe
kc9iqr 2 years ago
I started using Splitfire plugs because my engine stuttered and stalled at slow speeds under load in the colder weather. I only use premium fuel (engine requires 89 octane which really stutters). Since using splitfires I have had no such problem. No BS they work!
skypilotEd 2 years ago
YOU FORGOT THE CRUDE OIL CRISIS
09204418448 2 years ago 4
what a load of rubbish
brettwill87 3 years ago
Hoax. Engines are designed to run at the optimal (stoichiometric) fuel-air-ratio. This is called the running on ratio. There is fixed amount of oxygen needed to combust gasoline (a hydrocarbon) to yield H2O and CO2 and energy. Increasing the air will not increase the energy yield. In fact, energy will be diverted from useful work by heating the excess air that otherwise inertly passes thru the system.
kenp3L 3 years ago
Here is another problem they will have to solve. That huge electrode pertruding into the combustion chamber, messes up the air flow that mixes the fuel and air. Bosch platium 4 plugs currently have this problem on several cars. Their 4 prong ground messes up the air fuel mixture flow. Those firestorm plugs look much bigger in that area. How do thet plan to cure the problem Bosch currently has?
You may think I'm looking just for problems, but I'd be happy if this worked. But I see 2 many prob.s
ikester7579 3 years ago
A little science about the fraud of splitfire plugs company that makes firestorm plugs. Anytime you split a spark, you also split the voltage of that spark. Low voltage sparks are hot enough to ignite the fuel. The picture splitfire made that shows the split spark was trick photography. That was one of the things the Federal Trade Commision fined them for. Knowingly frauding the consumer. Google "ftc splitfire" and you can read all about it.
ikester7579 3 years ago
Does anyone remember Popular Mechanics front page with Prof. Oppenheimer's plasma spark plug? Circa late 70 to early 80's? It had a small opening at the end of the threads, and the electrod was located deep in the plug. Compression forced f/a into the chamber and extreme high voltage stripped electrons off, spraying them into the rest of the f/a, creating multiple points of ignition. I recall his experiments were firing AFR's of 24:1. Could this account for the reaction K is claiming?
scary858 3 years ago
ikester7579 krupa and camera tricks....are you kidding?.....let's look at this techonlogy which is at the moment almost replicated......first off there is no polishing or camera tricks.....your are being childish, in your loss of answers to explain what is going on......if you have looked into paul pantone and stanley meyer then you will understand exactly what is being creating here in the firestorm spark plugs.....so let's start.
kinesisfilms 3 years ago
1. modern day spark plugs have been getting smaller and smaller. there contact electrodes are very tiny adn ignition coils have also been getting smaller and smaller....thus a smaller spark and a less combustive reaction.
kinesisfilms 3 years ago
2. krupa had used older style ignition coils, coils delivering much higher energy outputs, he also changed the contact points on the spark plugs to hte shape of intersecting smei circles.....thus the spark would jump across many more contact points rather than just one point .....one contact point will lead to the failure of a spark plug over time.
kinesisfilms 3 years ago
3. by using energy in the kilojoule range one would notice that this would instantly weld the electrode gap...well how does one get around that......we hold back current and let voltage rise, still using the same power wattage....this still is a plasma (ionizing the air in between the electrodes) but we have an incredibly high potential pressure or stress forming inside this plasma ball.....
kinesisfilms 3 years ago
now anyone who has replicated a stanley meyer fuel cell knows this is the methodology for splitting water.....and anyone who understands the geet process or has replicated it understands that plasma has the power to break hydrocarbons into simpler elements and in some cases transfrom elements...which is still unexplainable effect in plasma.....
kinesisfilms 3 years ago
so not only are we capable of completely tweaking the usage and power output of our gasoline to air ratio to upwards of 40:1....yes and that is correct 40 parts air to 1 part gasoline....without the creation of N2O and a 90 percent decrease in pollution just as paul pantones geet fuel reformer.....but we can also do fuel mixtures of 75 water and 25 gasoline using methodologies from stanley meyer.
kinesisfilms 3 years ago
Bosch tested the plug and found it to be exactly what Krupula said it to be. However, Bosch rejected it because they almost never wear out, and that is not good for a business that survives on "Consumables." We suffer because it is too good. This is the truth!
excell4God 3 years ago
where can i buy these spark plugs
trillakilla 3 years ago
do they use these in race cars? or do they use normal spark plugs? i would imagine they would use the very best. ...
defaultuser11432 3 years ago
whats ratio have to do with the spark lol
jayguy173 3 years ago
ikester7579 you have no idea what your talking about....read his 3 patents, notice that the other video on here labeled ball spark plug IS NOT A FIRESTORM PLUG and is some australian guy trying to replicate it.....you are a load of bs and disinformation....anyone who is interested listen to the radio interview of krupa on blog talk radio.
kinesisfilms 3 years ago
Firestorm plugs are made by the same people who made splitfire. Just type into any search engine: "Splitfire plug ftc" and everyone will see who is the load of BS. I'd like to see you explain your way out of all the false claims that splitfire made and got fined for? They do make the firestorm plug, right? So what makes you think that if they ripped everybody off then that they would not do it agina now?
Explain to us your logic on this? Unless you are getting a cut of the rip off?
ikester7579 3 years ago
They have not made the plugs yet, I am speaking w/Krupa at the time being, he needs investors and I assure you the thing is far from a hoax. Its made by high voltage really.
gerriburn 3 years ago 2
Click on the video to the right that says: Ball spark plug. And see a test of the firestorm plug. You will notice that the spark generated there is nothing compared to what you see in the video on this page.
Camera tricks will get you everytime. So like I said, the chamber was polished so the the spark would show up better. In the other video there is no polished chamber, so the spark is no better. What a hoax.
ikester7579 3 years ago
how do u think the ngk iridium ix plugs are .. im about to buy i need new ones
trillakilla 3 years ago
I have not tried them so I do not know. NGK is an established company with a reputation. So I imagine they would be on the up and up on their claims.
ikester7579 3 years ago
there no to bad honestly.
gerriburn 3 years ago
If the fuel is ignited it is ignited. This is nonsense.
masteropie001 3 years ago
so wrong
BIZNAILEY 3 years ago
Completely wrong, scientifically.
Rate of combustion, efficiency % of fuel combusted in the chamber are very important...
It is common knowledge, gasoline is only converted approx. 30% to energy, the rest is waste and pollutants.
Cleaner, more powerful combustion, would yield leaner fuel mixes, less waste pollutants, and higher efficiency and torque.
I'd like to see this ball-shape incorporated with PulStar (capacitor charging of the spark-gap), that would be amazing.
DJ45DigiScientist 3 years ago
Also, one of the problems with splitfire plugs was the huge ground electrode. It messed up the circulation of the air and gas which caused uneven burn. Now notice how big this thing is that the firestorm plug has. And it's going to be sticking way into the combustion chamber. Red flag.
ikester7579 3 years ago
When they show the plugs firing, notice that the chamber on the left the metal is polished to reflect light.
Also notice what the guy says. It's compressed with nitrogen gas. And then he claims that is what your engines runs on? I don't think so. Nitrogen is produced under combustion conditions. But in a very small percent. What is manly in the chamber is oxygen, and when burned carbon monoxide and oxygen and a very small percent of nitrogen. So here again there is a problem.
Continued...
ikester7579 3 years ago
Err..Our atmosphere is mainly Nitrogen mate!
Basically, what he said there was a flash way to say he was using them in AIR.
Spikey.
spikeychops 3 years ago
You should know that they say the person who thought this up also thought up split fire plugs. Split fire plugs got into trouble with the FTC for making false claims. Just type in "splitfire ftc" into any search engine, look for the ftc gov site and you can read all about it. Because the same people who did this now have this plug makes me wonder of this is not just another case of false claims. Read and decide.
ikester7579 3 years ago
This is great. Bosh is interested someone else is interested and noone ever sings any contract and never will!! Is this not clear for anyone??? Who is gonna make money for oil companies if your car will run with 40% gas savings? Invented something: go public as wide as you can OR you and your inventions will die..
minde4000 3 years ago
made ball tipped spark plugs in 1991
iansnews 3 years ago
he sold out. they buried the technology. recreate it yourself.
electric789 3 years ago
seen it 20 yrs ago in Germany. Just hidden technology released
mochiam 3 years ago
spark plug 2
have ever noticed when an old technology has whored out ,all of a sudden new things appear
to want to make you keep it,and a lot of time is spent on publicity,
consider this,the muti nats spend millions in developement over the years,
how many times can you invent a sparkplug
i wonder how old the patient is on this one
1960 something?
tediouse 3 years ago
SPARK PLUG 1
why did,nt this company put their money into electric vehicle mfg ,if they did there research
on the money side ,for long term they would know there share holders would be better of ,and their profit forcast more secure,
perhaps if the ceo would type in electric car on google he could see some thing he missed,
stinky old petrol engines are a thing of the past ,its just that the oil companies wont let it die, [gmc crushes electric cars ]
tediouse
tediouse 3 years ago
ok big ignition ,but how hot does the chamber get,with standard or iridium plugs,
the bigger the bang the more heat is produced,
also does the this car run a standard ignition set up,
back in the 70s a plug that claimed biger better combustion ended up burning out the pistons ,
i would like to see an ir reading of the heat,
read out,
also is there is a question of reach ?
tediouse.
tediouse 3 years ago
ok big ignition but how hot does the chamber get
over standard plug type or iridium,more combustion = more heat ,i think an ir detecter
should show before and after,also,does the car
run standard ignition ,?
tediouse.
tediouse 3 years ago
This is a great product...if it existed! Does anyone know when these little jewels will go on sale...if at all? Whether Mr. krupula is being suppressed or paid to sit and spin is anyone's guess. but I feel he would sell them if he could.
excell4God 3 years ago
I've tried Halo sparkplugs in my Hummer. Not sure about gas mileage but I can FEEL more POWER.
wannablikeu 3 years ago
what kind of douche bag drives a hummer?
nihilionsaro 3 years ago
whats a douche bag?
wannablikeu 3 years ago
your a fucking retard
cartmankk2 3 years ago
just impotent "rambos". Hey guys look at my new penis!!!!
mochiam 3 years ago
24:1 AFR? sorry, but thats not going to happen no matter what SPARK PLUGS you use. stoichiometrically balanced AFR is 14.7:1(unless you change the fuel)
im not saying that a spark that much stronger wont give you better performance or economy, a strong ignition spark always does, but there are some rules with internal combustion engines that cant be changed. if you were to run a 24:1 AFR without detonation, you would only be using about 1/2 the air in the cylinders.
oh and nothing lasts forever.
Patrickisafish 3 years ago
agree
humantestdummy 3 years ago
You really do not understand combustion theory at all.
BriscoCountyJr23 3 years ago
These plugs are not dead yet!
Bob is still in the process of getting a manufacturing facility up and running.
Nobody will make them because once cars are equipped (new or retrofit) there will be no need for replacement plugs and they'll put themselves out of business. Only new car production will need the plugs. Why build something that doesn't wear out? Because you're in it for the right reasons instead of just blind profit!
TechnoPatriot 3 years ago 2
Why wouldnt they wear out? Everything wears out. I just don't see your logic.
savelotsofcash 3 years ago
Because a plasma flash is non damaging to the metal of the plug, unlike the hot spark of an electrical spark which causes the metal to burn off.
BriscoCountyJr23 3 years ago
YAY!!! IT's cuming and cuming... ^_^
EclipseCrzy101 3 years ago
make them your selves he said he used a normal plug, welded a ball on the end, then a wire cage over it, just need a tig welder.
XRRep 3 years ago
...and a means of precisely holding the ball concentric with the center anode while you weld... and a way to precisely form and then hold the arched cathodes while you weld.
Holding the spark gap doesn't matter!!
Simple!! Make them yourself!
TechnoPatriot 3 years ago
do race cars use special spark plugs the commoners can't use....
defaultuser11433 3 years ago
This comment is for jeh14
If you want a good example of over unitytake a look at the current vehicles that we drive. There are 2 forces that create the movement of our everyday gas powered car. First there is a 12volt Battery, the second force is the pressure applied to the gas pedal. Run your car 120 MPH into a brick wall and feel the differnce between that and someone stepping on your foot while you touch the 2 ends of a 12 volt battery.
hhoquest 3 years ago
they do son race plugs run a tougher cooler plug
they are not suitable for normal cars,i have a box of them and are going to have a play with them doing ht/plasma experiments,iv seen lots of standard plugs used on the tube doing them
but no race plugs,the ones i got ,have the earth coming through the side of the body,
cant tell you the name /number as everthing
is packed im moving house,
type in race plug/google,and check the spec:
tediouse 3 years ago
the spark plug companys dont want to make them because it would put them out of business. Having a plug that lasts 10 times longer....they want you to change them and buy new ones
vinnysnismo 4 years ago
How do you know they would last longer?
savelotsofcash 3 years ago
The part that wears out 90% of the time is the center electrode Since this has a huge ball it will not wear out before the plug parts do.
Vistal1 3 years ago
Does anyone know what city these will be made? Because I would like to run that factory, or distribution center.
grimlords 4 years ago
Does nyone know what happened to these plugs and why the product just died?
seshkanuri 4 years ago
You can ask the same question about why we don't have 80 mpg cars. Oh wait, I know the reason. The oil companies want there money. These small companies got bought out.
RevengeOO7 4 years ago
The oil companies were not happy with this thats y it died
cfhasib 4 years ago
Good video if the theory and laws do not fit the fact of what happens in an experiment then the theory and laws are wrong.
Experiment first theorise second.
0ddba11s 4 years ago
Robert sold out. Basterd!
IdiotSlapper 4 years ago
Do you have any idea when we can buy some of these plugs? And when was this News cast taped?
sigep311 4 years ago
Figured that these plugs do soo well and we can't have them because it will hurt the oil company's pockets.
acerd1 4 years ago
Stuff like this always seem "almost to market" don't they? I WANT to believe, I'd buy them, who wouldn't If they really work, why are they not out yet-I emailed the inventor; he said he was seting up a web-site or something...it's not there anymore...
VideoJunkei 4 years ago
Look up the size of hydrogen, and oxygen in chemistry oriented sites. sum the volumes.
convert that to a sphere with that given volume. now take distance across sphere.
thats your wave length=W. 1/w is frequency.
Then test around that spectrum woth around 200-1000 watts power. Use great care, and do not do it in your house. If you accidentally etherialize the water, the force in lbs./sqare inch is enormous. Do it in a shed @ 100 feet away from you and anything you care about.
afederowicz 4 years ago
bwahaha...
Please take a Physics 101 class, and a Chem 101 class, in a science bachelors' track, and try again.
"Etherialize"... Where do you get this stuff? Comic books?
jeh14 4 years ago
p.s. even your claim that 1/wavelength = frequency is wrong... unless the speed of propagation through your medium happens to be 1!
jeh14 4 years ago
> an EM wave *IS* a sphere.
Incorrect. An EM FIELD in a uniform medium may expand from its origin in a spherical fashion... or it may not, depending; but that doesn't mean that an EM WAVE is a sphere.
jeh14 4 years ago
As for igniting the fuel-air mix, I really don't see what an improved spark can do that the initial flame front from an ordinary spark cannot. There is no need to adjust the "frequency" to match any aspect of the fuel; ignition doesn't work that way.
The resonant freq. of water is irrelevant; water is an ash, not a fuel, and no amount of pseudoscientific gobbledeygook will make it otherwise.
jeh14 4 years ago
Uh... an EM wave is not a "sphere" (it has no "surface", so there is no notion of "the size of the sphere"). It is created by electric and magnetic fields at right angles to each other (doesn't really matter which is "horizontal", all is relative). In any case spark plugs are not fed by alternating current... Time-varying current, certainly, but not of any particular freq.
jeh14 4 years ago
Google: s1r-Tero pdf
Document Titled:
"A Car that Runs on Water Alone"
sirHOAX 4 years ago 2
Sorry, but it's a hoax. Anybody who paying attention in a first-year science program will agree. They won't change their minds after they get a PhD, either.
Why don't you Google
hyperphysics hydrogen electrolysis
and read the first hit (at phy-astr dot gsu dot edu ).
As for MY credentials, if I did post them you would just say I copied them from someone else or made them up, so what would be the point? I have spelled out the truth for you several times; that is all you need.
jeh14 4 years ago
You even read the document? You are a idiot for sure. Over-unity has been documented by metal forming industry on 'water arc acceleration' THIS IS FACT.. You have no clue on topics of Plasma disassociation. Get a life already.
sirHOAX 4 years ago
It isn't overunity, and plasma disassociation obeys the same rules as everything else: You can't get out what you don't put in. If you put water in and you get water out (balanced), then the energy must be balanced also -- ideally; in actual practice there is always an energy LOSS.
jeh14 4 years ago
I'm not wasting anymore of my time trying to convince an old dog new tricks.
You can not teach old dog new tricks. And yes, you are that old and gray dog.
--Peace
sirHOAX 4 years ago
Put your money where your mouth is.
Build the experiment then disprove it.
Otherwise your a BULLSHIT ARTIST.
sirHOAX 4 years ago
There has NEVER been a credible experiment, other than nuclear reactions, that disproves conservation of energy; and nuclear reactions still obey c. of mass-energy. If you disagree, please point to where it is documented in an established, peer-reviewed journal.
jeh14 4 years ago
Keep the bench warm for me, while I'm out building my next million.
sirHOAX 4 years ago
Million? you are a piker. If you achieve overunity you are in line for billions, PLUS a Nobel prize, with accolades that will dwarf those given to Einstein, Fermi, Feynmann, and Gell-mann COMBINED. I await reports of your success.
jeh14 4 years ago
Old man, go die already.
sirHOAX 4 years ago
It's interesting to note who continues to stoop to personal insult here, and who has NEVER responded to entirely reasonable questions about his supposed creations. To repeat, for example: if you have observed increased voltage AND current out vs. in, why can't your device power itself in a loop?
(But don't feel bad; Joseph Newman can't answer that one either.)
jeh14 4 years ago
...and one year later, these supposed spark plugs are not on the market, are not in use by NASCAR or any other racing venue, are in fact completely unheard-of outside of a few obviously self-promoting web sites.
Nor have we heard anything more about the millions sirHOAX expected to make.
Plans for all manner of "Free energy devices" have been on the web forever, but nowhere do we hear of anyone powering their house with one, or even a flashlight. (Imagine my surprise.)
jeh14 3 years ago
panaceauniversity'org
Practical Guide to Free-Energy Devices
Go to Document D14.pdf
sirHOAX 4 years ago
Also look at D9.pdf
They give clear explanation how-to achieve more power out than in using 3-unique pulse-train of frequency into the toroidal transformer.
Don't listen or believe the popular conceptions of the world. Possibilities are endless. You can re-invent the wheel. Don't believe the hype.
sirHOAX 4 years ago
And yet, no one in the entire world seems to have managed to build one of these things, routed part of its own output to its own input, and so made a self-sustaining "free energy device."
(Note Steorn's miserable failure back in April...)
And you ask ME for MY experiments??? I don't need to run an experiment to convince myself that 2+2=4.
jeh14 4 years ago
People like you discover nothing and at the same time do nothing for humanity as a whole. If the future of humanity was left in the hands of people like yourself the world would be fucked for sure.
Sit on the sideline, keep the bench warm. While we put all the secrets together and make this happen, and post it on youtube for the world to see.
sirHOAX 4 years ago 2
Like so many before you, you confuse technology with physical laws. "People like me" include people who split the atom, who went to the moon, and who built the microprocessor. NOT by thinking they could ignore long-established physical laws, but by starting from what was already known and working forward. That's how progress is made.
Incidently, electrolysis cells run best on pure DC. Anything else does nothing but heat the water.
jeh14 4 years ago
Yea, I'm sure you went to the moon and split the atom.
Post a video of your "inventions" then we will talk credibility. Otherwise your pulling this information out of your ass.
You have no evidence to conclude anything based upon real fact. Your all "theory" and that approach is entirely wrong if history is correct on discovery.
Pessimism is all you have.
sirHOAX 4 years ago
Man, you are getting feeble. I said "people like me"; never said *I* went to the moon. Videos on the web are the easisest things in the world to fake (see the videos of the "Perendev generator", for example, and of the "Meyer water car", and the "Aquygen" stuff, none of which do one whit to actually prove their claims). As for "no evidence"??? Dear boy, the evidence is ALL on my side. Not ONE experiment has EVER shown a conservation violation. Yours won't either.
jeh14 4 years ago
This conversation is over. Last reply, my time is valuable.
People like this stand in the way of progress, not worth the trouble or your time typing a reply.
sirHOAX 4 years ago
All of your comments along these lines are very standard complaints from "free energy" types. "You have a closed mind," "you're just being negative," blah blah blah.
Eventually, if YOU keep an open mind (which you have shown no evidence of so far), you will find that 2+2=4 on your bench just as it does on mine. The sooner you learn that, the sooner you will have a chance of actually doing something productive. But I'm not betting on that happening, ever.
jeh14 4 years ago
Post a video of your accomplishments, experiments, and background of your study. Show us "who you are" to us. Otherwise we are probably talking to the manager at Walmart, and your credibility is in question.
You have no basis for your claims, you have no scientific degree. In some sick and twisted way you think Google has issued it to you.
You are unskilled and incompetent to be telling us what is and what isn't. --Simple
sirHOAX 4 years ago
Your pathetic Laws of physics have been broken by LARGE industry from time to time. You think they post that for the world to know about it? What world do you live in? Disney Land? Seriously.
The mining, and metal industry has broken your little Faraday Laws with exploding water with high-voltage. They can not explain the over-unity. --haha--
This is fact, go Google it. If it happened once, then it could happen again.
Google: s1r-Tero
sirHOAX 4 years ago
No overunity, just measurement error. It is EXTREMELY difficult to correctly measure heat energy (this is the error made by the original "cold fusion" proponents); it is even more difficult to do so any time high transients are involved.
jeh14 4 years ago
I don't need to establish *my* credibility. I just have to point to the sceince and technology section of the library. ANY library. What I'm telling you is what you will find there. You don't have to discredit me; you have to discredit ALL of those authors.
jeh14 4 years ago
Bi-product of an american education. Can't think for yourself. Its 'OK' its understandable..
sirHOAX 4 years ago
"Thinking for yourself" doesn't mean you get to make up your own universe, too. People who do that, um, we call "psychotic."
jeh14 4 years ago
Just think, All this B/S started over a new revolutionary spark plug idea !!
bonniesboytoy 4 years ago
Negative people often resist positive change in a fashion that is very destructive to society. Good luck in your religious dedication to posting negative comments, but never offering any positive action. You do not know what your talking about. You talk like a typical Company educated mechanic. You dialogue follows the same negative trend. If the world only had people as intelligent and positive as you we'd still be pulling around wagons on square wheels.
afederowicz 4 years ago
Actually, I talk like someone who knows that the conservation laws cannot be sidestepped with a few funny waveforms. On the other hand, even so-called "true RMS reading" meters can be completely fooled by such... and even if not, you still don't know the phase angle... so you have no idea how much power you're really seeing.
jeh14 4 years ago
Honestly now, do you do you work for a petro chemical Co. If the only ways to organize energy in sympathetic manners, as a response to initally organized energies, is: with funny tricky wave forms... Of course you will fail every time, because any sysmetrical system of energy in a closed circuite will always just come in under the unity line at best... Bet then you are also side stepping the issue of separation of mass and charge.
afederowicz 4 years ago
> any sysmetrical system of energy in a
> closed circuit will always just come in
> under the unity line at best...
Yes! And H2O -> H2 + 1/2 O2 -> H2O is such a closed "loop." The H2O at the end is in the same energy state as that at the beginning, therefore this process can yield no net energy "output," no matter how you do the first step.
> you are also side stepping the issue of
> separation of mass and charge.
You're handwaving.
jeh14 4 years ago
The energy is in the process and regeneration like fusion reactors or cold plasma reactors. This does work and I've made similar results - see sr1m191
mlexus74 2 years ago
Now you're claiming that fusion happens in a spark plug? (Will the idiocy never end?) Or are you just saying you made similar measurement errors as Fleischmann and Pons? LOL!
jeh14 2 years ago
and I would like to see your web site showing conclusive proof of your views. These people at least offer something, and you in your state of professional jealousy, sit here waiting to tear down support for a better system. At least I actually contacted this man and offered to help set up a CNC shop in New England. Remember when this stuff dose come out, stick to your guns and keep burning that petrol. Some people should be glued to their antequated belief systems...
afederowicz 4 years ago
I posted the link to the hyperphysics site already. Beyond that, you and sirHOAX (telling sn there) are the ones making the claims that violate long-established principles, e.g. conservation of energy -- so you are the ones who need to provide proof.
There IS a mathematical proof that ALL conservation laws are correct... as long as the physical laws and constants of the universe are, well, constant. Look up "Noether's theorem."
jeh14 4 years ago
Glad I wasn't brought up under your doctrine. Where my mind is open, yours is sealed shut.
sirHOAX 4 years ago
Seriously, if you can really achieve overunity with your toroidal transformer as you claimed, you don't need to bother with the "splitting water" step. Just run the output back to the input and tap off the excess. You will have a generator of completely free electric energy. It will make you a billionaire, at least, AND win you a Nobel prize in physics. I await news of your recognition!
jeh14 4 years ago
This is coming from who again? Where is your scientific degree in physics? Where are your experiments that clearly show evidence of these "theories" not working.
Tell me what experiments have you conducted in the past, other than changing your spark plugs.
Otherwise your all hot-air. Go rant-n-rave on craigslist where you are welcome. Take your diseased thinking elsewhere.
sirHOAX 4 years ago
Experiments confirming the conservation laws, and the Gibbs free energy states of the various chemical bonds in question, have been done *at least* tens of thousands of times. But, hey, you have an "open mind" and that's better than actually knowing something about the field, right? By all means, try it. Knock yourself out.
jeh14 4 years ago
Will do, at the moment I am working on a closed loop HHO production heating system.
Honestly, if it does work I am going to market with it.
A millionaire will be born every week with the new technologies that are arising because of non-conformist inventors. So play by the rules see where that gets you, or maybe you already have that is why you are complaining.
Self-taught. --Simple
sirHOAX 4 years ago
"Non-conformist" does not mean you can ignore the way the universe works. To the best of anyone's understanding, the universe obeys the conservation laws. If I'm reading your claims correctly, you believe you have found exceptions to those laws. You can believe whatever you want, but if you expect anyone else to, you're the one who has to provide proof of your claims - extraordinary proof, at that.
jeh14 4 years ago
Einstein came up with e=mc2 because he had very fertile imagination not because of pure science principles.Riding a beam of light and using deduction theories, not what was universally accepted... was his way of doing things
NewFuelFast 4 years ago
Actually he can run gasoline even leaner than 24:1 and still sustains proper combustion. Firestorm spark plugs also allow engines to idle at 250 rpm, which is not possible with conventional spark plugs.
As for reinventing gasoline, that was already patented by Rudolf Gunnerman.
BriscoCountyJr23 4 years ago
Well, sure. ANY ratio greater than 14.7 to 1 will "sustain proper combustion." But it won't deliver as much power per unit volume as 14.7 to 1, because 14.7 to 1 is the proper stochiometric ratio. Add any more air than that and, sure, you can still burn all of the gas... what there is of it. But some of the oxygen in that air is not going to be involved in combustion. You're just moving it from intake to exhaust. I have better things for my engine's displacement to do, thank you very much.
jeh14 4 years ago
You'll never get an engine to run 24:1 with convention spark plugs. The problem with 14.7:1 is that this ratio was not picked for it's power or efficiency, but because it's what the conventional engine needs to operate reasonably well in many respects.
The lean burn engine on the other hand, eliminates many of the handicaps that 14.7:1 imposes. To get the most power from the engine the fuel must burn and expand during the power stroke, and not during the exhaust stroke like 14.7:1 engines do.
BriscoCountyJr23 4 years ago