Bren Foster is not even real tkd,, He is WTF if yall really wanna see some Traditional tkd look up. ITF Taekwon- Do & start to learn the real meaning of taekwon- Do
@Jav1ertkd I missed the part where one organization of a style is better than another. Tae-Kwon-Do was originally founded as "Tae-Kwon-Do". Organizations simply put their interpretations of technique and rules which revolve around TKD. Watch Hee Il Cho. He was WTF and is renowned for his abilities.
@Jav1ertkd I am a 3rd dan in ITF and am training under a new master to get my 4th dan (he is WTF) frankly i can't stand the itf/wtf feud they both have forms (punse's or hosinsul's) both have onesteps, both teach the fundementals and depending on the Master both teach the same names (hup chagii, sudo makii,etc.). the only people that talk shit about one or the other are people that don't know what tae kwon do is about.
@insatiableTy its not just ppl who don't know. but even ppl OF the martial art argue about its origins. For example, the WTF style ignores or speaks badly of Choi Hong Hi (the founder of ITF) on grounds of him being disloyal or something. so much feud, when we are all simply students under the great lifestyle of martial arts
@insatiableTy 100% Agreed...I fell for the propaganda early in my black belt years. Then I went out into the world. and experienced Taekwondo from all angles. The systematic differences drove me into history which basically proves we are all one (regardless of the angle of argument). Taekwondo for all!
@Jav1ertkd most taekwondo fighters learn the art itself as well as how to compete, obviously two different sets of rules and techniques involved, but others just compete and it is sad really, they are missing so much.
@Jav1ertkd they r both real taekwondo. just because ITF came first, doesnt make it "real". it was created with an enormous influence of karate. however ITF forbids full contact, which i personally prefer to have with the WTF style :)
"reaction time is defined as when you see a stimulus and how long it takes you to react." No shit, sherlock! He must work for the Department of redundancy department.
I love this martial arts style fight crap. If you think like that your stupid. Its about the martial artist vs martial artist Different people with different body types use differnent styles in different ways you need to learn how to stand and fight and how to fight on the ground whatever style you use doesn't matter. Its man v. man not style v. style.
This made me feel proud to be a First Degree Black Belt :') Took me 7 years to achieve my Black Belt.. and I think i did earn it. It took alot of hard work but in the end it was all worth it :)
get into k1 or the mma cage and prove your fighting ability. Doing demonstrations on non moving targets with fancy CGI doesn't mean shyt in a real fight with more well rounded fighters.
everyone likes different MA just like everyone likes different sports,music,food,etc. there are no best MA and no worst MA just like there are no worst sport and no best sport. everyone has a different mind set
@indio2dr yeah a no... it's just currently one of the most popular because every MMA/UFC fighter uses it to establish a base for their ground game. Know what you're talking about before you speak. Less people's brains will hurt.
@Crisisprince66 You know why it is the most established Martial art in MMA? Because if you don't know it you will lose in an instant. If it was still 1995 and everyone had their own style the BJJ practitioner would beat everyone's ass. Because in modern day, the only way people beat BJJ fighters is because they learned basic BJJ defense. I don't remember a martial art were you have to learn basic defense from it to be able to beat it with your own.
@indio2dr Actually, in order to get an upper hand against any martial art it's good to learn at least some of the basics whether you practiced them or just study them through other means. And please stop calling it BJJ... it sounds like something dirty you get a hooker to do to you.
Also to your coment at Garra98, You don't need to be good at submission defense... just need to be good at keeping them from taking you to the ground.
@Crisisprince66 That's not the essence of style versus style then. You have to use your style and your style only to prove it is better. When in those circumstances BJJ wins maybe 99 times out of 100. I know BJJ can be beat with basic sub defense and stuff but without basic sub defense you will lose.
@indio2dr BJJ whens in what? In a ring? Style vs style is nothing but a game and has no relavence to martial arts. Individuals and situation are far more vital. Such as weapons, multiple opponents, and just superior attributes. Style alone does not garentee 99 wins out of 100 battles.
@indio2dr O, figures you were talking about MMA. Yea, in MMa you have to have grappling or your chances of winning are slim assuming wieght and experience is relativly even. If some beginner BJJ guy goes up againsts a seasoned striker than the beginner won't stand much a chance, i dont care what style he does.
@ikcjjtt Catch wrestling and Traditional Judo (Which is about 95% similar to BJJ) are the only two martial arts that can rival BJJ. I still think someone like Jacare or Maia would beat anyone from those two styles in a grappling match.
@indio2dr BJJ came from judo, not the other way around. And what about Jujutsu? Hell, i grappled and summited professional fighters using basic japanese jujustu. They knew BJJ, catch wreslting, and other styles.In the end its not about what style you know, it comes down to who will tap out first.
@ikcjjtt No shit it came from Judo, and Judo Jujutsu, that's why I said it's 95% similar, since BJJ has bigger focus on ground and subs. Meh, Jujutsu is good and I haven't had any interaction with it personally so I wouldn't be able to put much of an opinion on it, I do know that you can pit the top level Jujutsu practitioner against the top level BJJ practitioner and the Jujutsu guy will lose because Jujutsu isn't as widely practiced as BJJ and doesn't have a competition plateau.
@ikcjjtt Now explain to me if you can beat Jacare or Maia in a no rules match, you would get pwned because their BJJ is very superior than you are at Jujutsu, also remember BJJ is a concentrated version of Jujutsu, hence its name. There are certain things in Jujutsu that don't work efficiently specially against someone savvy as a Jacare or Maia. I bet my life you can't beat a BJJ fighter, who is world class. Jujutsu has been the same for years, BJJ hasn't, its innovated.
@ikcjjtt My point is that the highest level of Jujutsu can't beat the highest level of BJJ because BJJ has a wider volume of practitioners that innovate on it yearly, monthly, maybe even weekly. BJJ essentially took away all the unnecessary skills that Judo and Jujutsu had and concentrated them to what works. Judo concentrated more on throws and Jujutsu had a more well rounded approach, BJJ focused entirely on the ground. Ninjutsu is identical to Jujutsu and was proven ineffective in UFC 2.
@indio2dr highest level? You cant even prove such a thing exist let alone measure it. Sounds like catch wreslting and jeet kune do to me. While thats all nice and good, the human body doesnt evolve nearly as fast. You can mold an idea as much as you want, but your body stays the same with the same weaknesses it had 1000s of years ago. Ninjutsu? Like that even exist in America, let alone as a sport. Its hard enough to find real karate/TKD and kung fu in the USA, yet you think u have seen real-
@ikcjjtt Highest level in BJJ = mundials. Highest level in wrestling = Olympics, same with Judo. You have this idea that in the mountains of Mongolia there is a man that knows everything about Jujutsu and can beat up any human on the planet, that's all gone, those myths are gone, reality is that BJJ is the most superior martial arts there is for basic style vs style fighting.
@indio2dr lmao. you really beleive olympic wreslting is actually real wreslting?! and you think i live in delusion? O man, that is almost as silly as saying Olympic TKD is the highest level of TKD there is. There is no such thing as a level in martial arts. There is only fighting skill period. Who said anything about men in Mongolia? And who said BJJ fighters can beat any human in the world? As i recall they lost to a ctach wreslter.
@indio2dr thing is there is no such thing as some superior martial art. Just as there is no such thing as a style vs a style fight. Its two men/women fighting. With human bodies and weaknesses, mortalily, stamina and attributes. All differing from each other. Many things go into a fight, not just what style you know or what style you think you know (ninjutsu...LMAO). In the end it goes down to the individual and the situation. If you think your style will protect you from a bullet, by all means-
@indio2dr show some proof of it. Many mystical martial artist love to think they can stop swords from cutting them and use chi energy to make people fly and get KOed without touching them. Then prove it on someone who isn't indoctrinated into believing your BS. It's simple science, really. If you bend the arm this way, it breaks. If you hit a guy here, it hurts. Nothing mystical, magical, or superior about it. Its just physics and human anatomy.
@indio2dr ninjutsu before? in a ring no less? spare me the jokes. As if the USA has real sumo wreslters and ninja pouncing around in dojos,lol. Most martial arts done in the USA are ineffective for fighting-simply because they have teachers that dont teach them how to fight in the first place. Most instructors dont hide this fact.This is true of most MMA gyms as well. Call them MCdojos if you want, but that doesnt change the rule.
@ikcjjtt BJJ = "Brazilian" JJ, how do you even know if I live in the US? Right now I could be in Brazil, you fail. So let me ask you something, Jujutsu is a very well rounded martial art, would a 170 pound Jujutsu master of the highest level possible be able to beat GSP? No. Would a 185 pound Jujutsu master be able to out grappled Maia? No. Therefore BJJ is the better martial art.
@indio2dr has GSP or Maia fought the "highest level" jujutsu master? Which btw, once again, you cant prove it exist. And even if you could, and u set up the fight and Maia won, what makes BJJ a superior art? How did Maia win? was it because of BJJ or could it be a multitude of factors? You are just using circular logic." If fighter A knowns BJJ and wins. BJJ is superior. Is BJJ loses, its because they guy using it sucks". You do realize that's not a valid arguement right?
@indio2dr BJJ is either superior or it isnt. If it loses, AND it has to be because or a less experienced user, or more experienced fighter- then the same thing works vice versa. If it wins its because of a better fighter was using it. If BJJ is superior, then it shouldn't lose period. If it does lose, it's no longer superior and that tital goes to its successer-no excuses. Thats what it means to be superior. If you have to patch it up with exucses, then your theory us flawed.
@ikcjjtt I'm simply saying, put the highest level Jujutsu fighter against the highest level BJJ fighter and see who wins. Fuck that experience shit, lets put them at a level playing field and see who wins. That's what it means to be superior, its putting two same experienced fighters of different styles to clash and see who wins.
@indio2dr thats called a sparring match and its used to train and see who the better fighter is. No one man is the postor boy or the representative of an entire martial art. Superioriority? Look it up in the dictionary, what the hell do you plan to acomplish with the impossible fleat of taking two even remotly similar fighters and bit them against each other? One of them HAS to win, reguardless of your beliefs. That does not prove causation. You can not prove BJJ caused one to win alone.
@indio2dr Correalation does not prove causation. You have to elemenate all other varuables, prove one comes before the other, and prove they are related. Then you need data, real scientific data. Not that fight science crap.
@ikcjjtt Eliminate* and variables*. I said give everyone a level playing field and the BJJ fighter wins. That's it. Jujutsu doesn't have the refined ground game that BJJ has. Simple.
@indio2dr bullshit. I train in both, bullshit. Level playing field is impossible for humans to acomplish. You cant eliminate the nearly infinite amount of variables, even with a "level playing field". You truly can't expect one to always out due the other. I have out grappled BJJ guys, wreslters, and JJ guys. Dont sit here and tell me JJ doesnt work because its not BJJ. BJJ is derived from judo which is derived from JJ. BJJ cant stop a bullet either, just like it cant stop my arm bar.
It can't stop you're armbar? Haha yeah right. And who are you?
Just because something came from something, doesn't mean what it came from is better. BJJ was basically structured under the Gracie style and how many Gracies get choked out yearly? Because even though it came from the Gracies others made it better just like BJJ made Judo better on the ground, Judo is an awesome martial art but its out dated, much like Jujutsu the martial art of Samurais.
@indio2dr "Just because something came from something, doesn't mean what it came from is better" I never argued that. My point is BJJ is not some superior art that can beat everything in the entire world. No such thing as an outdated art, martial arts evolve, this isnt the 60s. I dont find it crediable that people claim i cant grapple because i take catch wreslting and jujutsu. As if BJJ is the only way to grapple.
@ikcjjtt No you clearly said Jujutsu was better than BJJ, that's why I'm arguing with you. Catch wrestling can beat BJJ but I doubt it could beat someone like Jacare.
@indio2dr No i did not. I said " You truly can't expect one to always out due the other. I have out grappled BJJ guys, wreslters, and JJ guys. Dont sit here and tell me JJ doesnt work because its not BJJ. BJJ is derived from judo which is derived from JJ. BJJ cant stop a bullet either, just like it cant stop my arm bar".
And i also said that if BJJ was so superior why did it lose to a catch wrelster? My point is there is no such thing as a superior art. It goes down to individuals and-
@ikcjjtt I never said it couldn't be beat, Sakuraba beat Royce Gracie and Yoshida beat him two, that's Judo and Catch Wrestling. What I'm saying is essentially the top guy in BJJ could beat the top guy in JJ, Judo and Catch Wrestling. Jacare has been in Abu Dhabi which is essentially catch wrestling.
@indio2dr Okay hold on... First of all it's Samurai not Samurais. The word Samurai act as both plural and singular. And let me just end this argument of yours here... A lot of grapple heavy martial arts like "BJJ" as you call it are only as good as how well they're taught to defend against other styles. Most martial arts, BJJ included primarily teach you to defend against anything that uses BJJ, or grapple heavy styles. So shut the fuck up because one well placed knee to the temple ends BJJ.
@Crisisprince66 Fail. If Jujutsu was so good how come it isn't practiced in MMA? Its where every martial myth was debunked. You guys have the idea that "JUJUTSU IS THE SHIT IT HAS THOUSANDS OF YEARS IT WOULD KILL BJJ!!". I feel like I'm arguing with the occasional Kung Fu/Karate "black belt" claiming they can beat anyone.
@ZombieSlayer762 tang soo do is TKD. just a different form of it. its all TKD. there is a bigger difference between shotokan karate and kyukushin karate than chung do kwan TKD and tang soo do.
TKD is NOT tang soo do, TKD is a watered down version ment for sport. taking out almost ALL of the arm techniques that tang soo do uses and only useing the leg techniques. when it comes to kicks, yes they are the same, how you use the kicks changes, but they are the same kicks, yes, the reason TKD has become as popular as it has is because its easy to learn, thats about it. tang soo do resembles Karate more than anything. theres a reason it is called Korean Karate by some people.
@ZombieSlayer762 Chung do kwan was the 1st TKD, so anything that isnt called that could be considered watered down. But watered down TKD is STILL TKD. Same technqiues and everything. Even olympic style has its traditional training outside of sport.
@ZombieSlayer762 Mudoo Kwan Taekwondo, not traditonal style. Dont confuse the two. Taewkondo's roots are Taekkeyon and Subak. thats the tradtional non-Olympic style.
@ZombieSlayer762 Mudoo Kwan Taekwondo, not traditonal style. Dont confuse the two. Taekwondo's roots are Taekkeyon and Subak. thats the tradtional non-Olympic style.
@ZombieSlayer762 taekwondo came before tang soo do. taekwondo's only ancestor is taekkyeon. tang soo do is actually a variant of taekwondo. also, no technique or fighting style is more deadly or effective than another. a style is only as deadly as the person using it.
@psikiguy7 dont forget about Subak. that and taekkyeon were the original martial arts which eventually formed into taekowndo with he influence of karate in some dojangs after the Japanese invasion of korea ended in 1945. Live, Love, Taekwondo!!
@psikiguy7 Correction sir, Tangsoo-Do (Way of the Chinese Hand) came to Korea from Japan. It Japanese it is called Kara-te! Many schools of Tangsoo-Do began to alter their curriculum and eventually merged into what is now know as Taekwondo. If you wish to dispute I request you support your claims with reference material.
@batemanTKD To be honest, debating about something that I don't care about is a waste of my time. Thanks for taking the time to make yourself sound like a douchebag though ;)
@psikiguy7 well I know that's not true... look up okinawan karate... far more deadlier than taekwondo... also dim mak... my personal belief system is... Don't limit yourself to one style!
@jesusgod99 yeah but the other movements though, seriously seemed like he was doing Koryo and not the second dan poomse. Then again, that's prolly WTF... I didn't study WTF.
@omar4235 would people stop with the stupid Chuck Norris shit, Chuck Norris is NOTHING! Yeah sure, he can beat a bitch's ass with no sweat, but we dont have to praise him for God sake, nobody cares about Chuck Norris right now
Honestly it really p.o's me when someone tries to accurately measure their martial art by saying how many boards or bricks they can break and how thick each of them were. Brick/board breaking is a mental confidence builder put into physicality.
It's used to tell you in a way, "In order to move onto the next level of training this wall needs to come down, this old barrier that no longer needs to be there now must fall." that's y they use boards. =P
@ikcjjtt Not particularly because you can't determine the same stress placed upon a board to break it in comparison to human bone because of the difference in denisities and composites.
@Crisisprince66 no one is comparing anything to human bone. If you want to break bones- take some jujutsu. My arguement is breaking boards is a way to test out focus, power, concentration, technique, and confidence. Without these things you can not break anything, not even paper. If i can punch through 5 boards, it means my punch has some degree of power to it, and i have the focus and technique to put that power to use. Thats all breaking boards are for.
@ikcjjtt If you wanna break bones then get a bat. Comparing human bones to "boards" has to be the most retarded thing I've heard in a while. And yes you are correct about the focus part about boards. The whole point of this argument is I think Jujutsu is not as effective of a martial art as BJJ is. If Jujutsu was such an effective martial art then US Army would be teaching it and MMA fighters would have it as a standard.
@indio2dr i never once compared boards to bones. I know wat you think, but BJJ and JJ are really too similiar to even be having this discussion. The USA Army trains in Jujutsu, not BJJ. My seageant was a amatuer MMA fighter trained in jujutsu by the Army. When i used an armbar technique from BJJ, he told me the technique was not used in the army and instead showed me a traditional JJ armbar technque.But BJJ is JJ, they are too similiar to be claiming one is better than the other.-
@ikcjjtt No they're not that similar, JJ incorporates striking and throws into their martial art while BJJ focuses less on throws and on the ground game.
@indio2dr i would rather argue for catch wreslting. Its like Karate vs TKD in a point style match, no punches to the face.The shit is 99.9% similiar under those rules. At least throw in some muay thai and savate to actually mix it up a bit. btw, Tang soo do IS TKD. That comment has been bothering me forever. Tang soo do is to TKD as JJ is to BJJ. The differences in them is miniscuel- i trained in all four!
@indio2dr The US Military teaches an americanized version of Russian Sambo, and I'd like you to tell me I'm wrong because both my father and brother are green berets and my cousin is USMC
@indio2dr The US Military teaches an americanized version of Russian Sambo, and I'd like you to tell me I'm wrong because both my father and brother are army and my cousin is USMC, The special forces of each regimine get trained in stuff like jujitsu and other kill them fast martial arts.
@Crisisprince66 Board compared to human bone? What the fuck are you talking about? The way they break boards is the easy way, instead of having the lines (wood lines) on the board going down, put them across and try breaking it like that, its a classic traditional martial art bullshit myth. Not saying its easy to do it but they do it the easier way.
@indio2dr Well first of all, when making the comparison between board and bone I was stating it is not a good one and wasn't even talking to you so you can shut the fuck up. And second, Dojangs, dojos, and schools for martial arts sit there and score (placing lines across the board) so it makes it easier for little kids to break the boards. Why don't you actually go to a dojo or something and learn a few things rather than sitting on your ass and claiming you know everything?
@Crisisprince66 Haha failed. Couldn't keep up with the debate so resorted to name calling like every random butthurt youtuber. Go take some debating class you noob, talking about USA teaches a military Sambo what the fuck are you talking about?
I wouldn't say "dominated". I made a mistake, the MT fighter used his knee and posted the hardest hit ever recorded on fight science. I would love to see the TKD fight try to break a bat with a kick.
The TKD fight performed a spinning side kick and registered alittle over 1500 lbs of pressure. The MT fighter used his knee which was registered in deflection not pressure.
How many times do i have to say this, they tested it twice. in one instance what you said happened in the other what i said did, they tested strongest kick twice.
@GingerSkate7 who cares what the shows results were its not legitimate they didnt factor in weight they simply tested people from different styles of different size and weight
@19thaman79 on one episode they tested muay thai tae kwon do karate capoiera but they were dumb they had a guy who was an expert in tae kwon do use karate and but the results were interesting the capoera fighter kicked at 99 miles per hour.. with around 1500 to 1800 lbs of force the muay thai had a 130 mile an hour kick with around 1500 lbs of force the karate fighter had a 60 to 70 miles an hour and had around 700 lbs of force and the tae kwon do fighter had 136 mh kc at over 2000lbs of force
@19thaman79 no he did not have the highest numbers ever he had the force of a 32 mile an hour car crash which is around 2200 lbs of force where in on the episode with bas ruten his kick had the force of a 38 mile car crash which is far more powerful
why would you prefer ninjitsu? real ninjitsu is what a real ninja does.... sent to kill a lord in japan dripping poison down from a thin thread to kill a person in sleep... hopping through buildings at night... throwing shirukens and mastering geography.... real ninjitsu wasn't made for self defense just to assassinate so you wouldn't confront someone if you were a ninja, most likely kill them in their sleep
I agree. Ninjas were good at stealth but sucked at CQB. Basicly If someone saw you, you werent a ninja you were some dude in black PJs. So you sure as shit didnt confront people no matter what the movies and Naruto makes you believe.
I disagree. Just because ninja used stealth doesn't make them bad fighters any more than it makes special ops bad fighters. Look up some ninjutsu vids and you'll see their martial art has striking, grappling, and weapons, and it's pretty damn good at them.
@redith137 actually historically speaking ninjas did not wear black outfits they wore a dark blue outfit and had body armor in there outfits and were heavily trained in hand to hand weapons and more they often doubled as a samurai
@backatchalol in real life ninjas also trained heavily in hand to hand combat and were masters witha sword they often spyed as samurai and had to be very skilled to make other samurai believe they were samurai
I have in fact so nice try. It is a sport and the art of kicking, not a martial art. I am now training in Shaolin Kenpo and I feel it is a MUCH more efficient martial art.
partly true, i'd say tkd is kind of a hybrid it was designed as a martial art, and practiced that way. but then in 2000 is when it became an olympic sport. thats why you dont here to much about it other than in the olympic wtf and itf sparring. i have a 2nd degree and at my school we learn taekwondo as a selfdefense fit for modern life combined with hapkido. i guees it just matters what school you attend.
Thats good. I just don't understand it when people call the sport form a self defense system. I didn't mean to go against it just annoys me when people call the sport a self defense.
It started becoming a sport when people started looking at taekwondo as a business. I practice taekwondo and it is sad to see real taekwondo schools disapearing man. I know what you mean when you say its a joke. But i practiced taekwondo in Russia and trust me man in America its a joke over there... Its something else
Indeed, but it does depend on the master. My grandmaster taught in the Korean Marines. And his teaching here, is influenced by Marine style TKD. IDK how other Masters instruct their classes.
My Instructor teaches the combat variation as well Rem. He's a 6th Dan in tradtional TaeKwonDo. Far different then what I see people commenting on here. The typical Youtube trolls :P
Jiujitsu all the way < 3
ParkourEliteCA 5 months ago
0:57 gesundheit!
Bumpykelly376 6 months ago
Bren Foster is not even real tkd,, He is WTF if yall really wanna see some Traditional tkd look up. ITF Taekwon- Do & start to learn the real meaning of taekwon- Do
Jav1ertkd 8 months ago
@Jav1ertkd but WTF is where it is AT!!!
ShrimpyMan567 7 months ago
@Jav1ertkd I missed the part where one organization of a style is better than another. Tae-Kwon-Do was originally founded as "Tae-Kwon-Do". Organizations simply put their interpretations of technique and rules which revolve around TKD. Watch Hee Il Cho. He was WTF and is renowned for his abilities.
ArcturusLeng 6 months ago
@ArcturusLeng Cho, Hee Il was a member of the original ITF Demo Team. He as well as many Korean early masters display strong regard to all Taekwondo.
batemanTKD 2 months ago
@batemanTKD That's a cool fact, but I was simply saying to Jav1ertkd that the organization does not define the martial artist.
ArcturusLeng 2 months ago
@Jav1ertkd I am a 3rd dan in ITF and am training under a new master to get my 4th dan (he is WTF) frankly i can't stand the itf/wtf feud they both have forms (punse's or hosinsul's) both have onesteps, both teach the fundementals and depending on the Master both teach the same names (hup chagii, sudo makii,etc.). the only people that talk shit about one or the other are people that don't know what tae kwon do is about.
insatiableTy 5 months ago
@insatiableTy its not just ppl who don't know. but even ppl OF the martial art argue about its origins. For example, the WTF style ignores or speaks badly of Choi Hong Hi (the founder of ITF) on grounds of him being disloyal or something. so much feud, when we are all simply students under the great lifestyle of martial arts
Chazerbaijann 4 months ago
@insatiableTy 100% Agreed...I fell for the propaganda early in my black belt years. Then I went out into the world. and experienced Taekwondo from all angles. The systematic differences drove me into history which basically proves we are all one (regardless of the angle of argument). Taekwondo for all!
batemanTKD 2 months ago
@Jav1ertkd most taekwondo fighters learn the art itself as well as how to compete, obviously two different sets of rules and techniques involved, but others just compete and it is sad really, they are missing so much.
cheesemonkey1990 4 months ago
@Jav1ertkd they r both real taekwondo. just because ITF came first, doesnt make it "real". it was created with an enormous influence of karate. however ITF forbids full contact, which i personally prefer to have with the WTF style :)
Chazerbaijann 4 months ago
You guys need to educate yallselves cuz your all wrong about tkd..
Jav1ertkd 8 months ago
hahaha
"the instep WATCH!"
azninvazn627 8 months ago 11
@azninvazn627 lmfao
dewbead 8 months ago
"reaction time is defined as when you see a stimulus and how long it takes you to react." No shit, sherlock! He must work for the Department of redundancy department.
TenouHaruka0 11 months ago
damn look at his abs and.. he's a beast
chltmdwp 1 year ago
So..why didn't the show the Tae Kwon Do Master doing the test instead of the 3d model?
munnymike 1 year ago
I love this martial arts style fight crap. If you think like that your stupid. Its about the martial artist vs martial artist Different people with different body types use differnent styles in different ways you need to learn how to stand and fight and how to fight on the ground whatever style you use doesn't matter. Its man v. man not style v. style.
Karascool 1 year ago
This made me feel proud to be a First Degree Black Belt :') Took me 7 years to achieve my Black Belt.. and I think i did earn it. It took alot of hard work but in the end it was all worth it :)
xTehxScreamox 1 year ago
im soo fast.. light cant even effect me. so im invisible,, and i dont age at all
whatatwist25 1 year ago
They can't even put this guy in Mortal Kombat thats how fast he is.
Shadybest 1 year ago
get into k1 or the mma cage and prove your fighting ability. Doing demonstrations on non moving targets with fancy CGI doesn't mean shyt in a real fight with more well rounded fighters.
yohance 1 year ago
too much talking, need more kicking!!
FlipSnipeZ 1 year ago
put your shirt on
artfan101 1 year ago
everyone likes different MA just like everyone likes different sports,music,food,etc. there are no best MA and no worst MA just like there are no worst sport and no best sport. everyone has a different mind set
garra98 1 year ago
@garra98 There are bad companies that teach MA...
Gnomesyze 1 year ago
@Gnomesyze they are only in it for the money. thats why
garra98 1 year ago
@garra98 There is a best MA = Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.
indio2dr 1 year ago
@indio2dr i beat a bunch of bjj practitioners easily. it depends on the fight and what they do
garra98 1 year ago
@garra98 Yea these nuts.
indio2dr 1 year ago
@indio2dr bjj isnt hard to counter dumbass. bjj fighters get fucked up by kickboxers and such
garra98 1 year ago
@garra98 UFC 1...I don't remember Royce getting KO'd.
indio2dr 1 year ago
@indio2dr and i still remember his family being taught by a judo and karate expert. so learn their background first
garra98 1 year ago
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@indio2dr and i still remember his family being taught by a judo and karate expert. so learn their background first
garra98 1 year ago
@garra98 Go back to UFC 1. To beat a BJJ practitioner you need be knowledgeable in submission defense. Bye.
indio2dr 1 year ago
@indio2dr yeah a no... it's just currently one of the most popular because every MMA/UFC fighter uses it to establish a base for their ground game. Know what you're talking about before you speak. Less people's brains will hurt.
Crisisprince66 1 year ago
@Crisisprince66 You know why it is the most established Martial art in MMA? Because if you don't know it you will lose in an instant. If it was still 1995 and everyone had their own style the BJJ practitioner would beat everyone's ass. Because in modern day, the only way people beat BJJ fighters is because they learned basic BJJ defense. I don't remember a martial art were you have to learn basic defense from it to be able to beat it with your own.
indio2dr 1 year ago
@indio2dr Actually, in order to get an upper hand against any martial art it's good to learn at least some of the basics whether you practiced them or just study them through other means. And please stop calling it BJJ... it sounds like something dirty you get a hooker to do to you.
Also to your coment at Garra98, You don't need to be good at submission defense... just need to be good at keeping them from taking you to the ground.
Crisisprince66 1 year ago
@Crisisprince66 That's not the essence of style versus style then. You have to use your style and your style only to prove it is better. When in those circumstances BJJ wins maybe 99 times out of 100. I know BJJ can be beat with basic sub defense and stuff but without basic sub defense you will lose.
indio2dr 1 year ago
@indio2dr BJJ whens in what? In a ring? Style vs style is nothing but a game and has no relavence to martial arts. Individuals and situation are far more vital. Such as weapons, multiple opponents, and just superior attributes. Style alone does not garentee 99 wins out of 100 battles.
ikcjjtt 1 year ago
@indio2dr O, figures you were talking about MMA. Yea, in MMa you have to have grappling or your chances of winning are slim assuming wieght and experience is relativly even. If some beginner BJJ guy goes up againsts a seasoned striker than the beginner won't stand much a chance, i dont care what style he does.
ikcjjtt 1 year ago
@indio2dr what about catch wreslting and Judo? Japanese jujustsu? Ninjutsu?
ikcjjtt 1 year ago
@ikcjjtt Catch wrestling and Traditional Judo (Which is about 95% similar to BJJ) are the only two martial arts that can rival BJJ. I still think someone like Jacare or Maia would beat anyone from those two styles in a grappling match.
indio2dr 1 year ago
@indio2dr BJJ came from judo, not the other way around. And what about Jujutsu? Hell, i grappled and summited professional fighters using basic japanese jujustu. They knew BJJ, catch wreslting, and other styles.In the end its not about what style you know, it comes down to who will tap out first.
ikcjjtt 1 year ago
@ikcjjtt No shit it came from Judo, and Judo Jujutsu, that's why I said it's 95% similar, since BJJ has bigger focus on ground and subs. Meh, Jujutsu is good and I haven't had any interaction with it personally so I wouldn't be able to put much of an opinion on it, I do know that you can pit the top level Jujutsu practitioner against the top level BJJ practitioner and the Jujutsu guy will lose because Jujutsu isn't as widely practiced as BJJ and doesn't have a competition plateau.
indio2dr 1 year ago
@indio2dr Judo from Jujutsu*
indio2dr 1 year ago
@indio2dr So now popularity and competition plateaus determine the effectiveness of an art? If that is true TKD pawns every martial art in the world.
ikcjjtt 1 year ago
@ikcjjtt Now explain to me if you can beat Jacare or Maia in a no rules match, you would get pwned because their BJJ is very superior than you are at Jujutsu, also remember BJJ is a concentrated version of Jujutsu, hence its name. There are certain things in Jujutsu that don't work efficiently specially against someone savvy as a Jacare or Maia. I bet my life you can't beat a BJJ fighter, who is world class. Jujutsu has been the same for years, BJJ hasn't, its innovated.
indio2dr 1 year ago
@indio2dr I cant beat Jacare or Maia with BJJ, let along anything else. Experience is just not even barely compatiable. What is your point?
ikcjjtt 1 year ago
@ikcjjtt My point is that the highest level of Jujutsu can't beat the highest level of BJJ because BJJ has a wider volume of practitioners that innovate on it yearly, monthly, maybe even weekly. BJJ essentially took away all the unnecessary skills that Judo and Jujutsu had and concentrated them to what works. Judo concentrated more on throws and Jujutsu had a more well rounded approach, BJJ focused entirely on the ground. Ninjutsu is identical to Jujutsu and was proven ineffective in UFC 2.
indio2dr 1 year ago
@indio2dr highest level? You cant even prove such a thing exist let alone measure it. Sounds like catch wreslting and jeet kune do to me. While thats all nice and good, the human body doesnt evolve nearly as fast. You can mold an idea as much as you want, but your body stays the same with the same weaknesses it had 1000s of years ago. Ninjutsu? Like that even exist in America, let alone as a sport. Its hard enough to find real karate/TKD and kung fu in the USA, yet you think u have seen real-
ikcjjtt 1 year ago
@ikcjjtt Highest level in BJJ = mundials. Highest level in wrestling = Olympics, same with Judo. You have this idea that in the mountains of Mongolia there is a man that knows everything about Jujutsu and can beat up any human on the planet, that's all gone, those myths are gone, reality is that BJJ is the most superior martial arts there is for basic style vs style fighting.
indio2dr 1 year ago
@indio2dr lmao. you really beleive olympic wreslting is actually real wreslting?! and you think i live in delusion? O man, that is almost as silly as saying Olympic TKD is the highest level of TKD there is. There is no such thing as a level in martial arts. There is only fighting skill period. Who said anything about men in Mongolia? And who said BJJ fighters can beat any human in the world? As i recall they lost to a ctach wreslter.
ikcjjtt 1 year ago
@indio2dr thing is there is no such thing as some superior martial art. Just as there is no such thing as a style vs a style fight. Its two men/women fighting. With human bodies and weaknesses, mortalily, stamina and attributes. All differing from each other. Many things go into a fight, not just what style you know or what style you think you know (ninjutsu...LMAO). In the end it goes down to the individual and the situation. If you think your style will protect you from a bullet, by all means-
ikcjjtt 1 year ago
@indio2dr show some proof of it. Many mystical martial artist love to think they can stop swords from cutting them and use chi energy to make people fly and get KOed without touching them. Then prove it on someone who isn't indoctrinated into believing your BS. It's simple science, really. If you bend the arm this way, it breaks. If you hit a guy here, it hurts. Nothing mystical, magical, or superior about it. Its just physics and human anatomy.
ikcjjtt 1 year ago
@indio2dr ninjutsu before? in a ring no less? spare me the jokes. As if the USA has real sumo wreslters and ninja pouncing around in dojos,lol. Most martial arts done in the USA are ineffective for fighting-simply because they have teachers that dont teach them how to fight in the first place. Most instructors dont hide this fact.This is true of most MMA gyms as well. Call them MCdojos if you want, but that doesnt change the rule.
ikcjjtt 1 year ago
@ikcjjtt BJJ = "Brazilian" JJ, how do you even know if I live in the US? Right now I could be in Brazil, you fail. So let me ask you something, Jujutsu is a very well rounded martial art, would a 170 pound Jujutsu master of the highest level possible be able to beat GSP? No. Would a 185 pound Jujutsu master be able to out grappled Maia? No. Therefore BJJ is the better martial art.
indio2dr 1 year ago
@indio2dr has GSP or Maia fought the "highest level" jujutsu master? Which btw, once again, you cant prove it exist. And even if you could, and u set up the fight and Maia won, what makes BJJ a superior art? How did Maia win? was it because of BJJ or could it be a multitude of factors? You are just using circular logic." If fighter A knowns BJJ and wins. BJJ is superior. Is BJJ loses, its because they guy using it sucks". You do realize that's not a valid arguement right?
ikcjjtt 1 year ago
@indio2dr BJJ is either superior or it isnt. If it loses, AND it has to be because or a less experienced user, or more experienced fighter- then the same thing works vice versa. If it wins its because of a better fighter was using it. If BJJ is superior, then it shouldn't lose period. If it does lose, it's no longer superior and that tital goes to its successer-no excuses. Thats what it means to be superior. If you have to patch it up with exucses, then your theory us flawed.
ikcjjtt 1 year ago
@ikcjjtt I'm simply saying, put the highest level Jujutsu fighter against the highest level BJJ fighter and see who wins. Fuck that experience shit, lets put them at a level playing field and see who wins. That's what it means to be superior, its putting two same experienced fighters of different styles to clash and see who wins.
indio2dr 1 year ago
@indio2dr thats called a sparring match and its used to train and see who the better fighter is. No one man is the postor boy or the representative of an entire martial art. Superioriority? Look it up in the dictionary, what the hell do you plan to acomplish with the impossible fleat of taking two even remotly similar fighters and bit them against each other? One of them HAS to win, reguardless of your beliefs. That does not prove causation. You can not prove BJJ caused one to win alone.
ikcjjtt 1 year ago
@indio2dr Correalation does not prove causation. You have to elemenate all other varuables, prove one comes before the other, and prove they are related. Then you need data, real scientific data. Not that fight science crap.
ikcjjtt 1 year ago
@ikcjjtt Eliminate* and variables*. I said give everyone a level playing field and the BJJ fighter wins. That's it. Jujutsu doesn't have the refined ground game that BJJ has. Simple.
indio2dr 1 year ago
@indio2dr bullshit. I train in both, bullshit. Level playing field is impossible for humans to acomplish. You cant eliminate the nearly infinite amount of variables, even with a "level playing field". You truly can't expect one to always out due the other. I have out grappled BJJ guys, wreslters, and JJ guys. Dont sit here and tell me JJ doesnt work because its not BJJ. BJJ is derived from judo which is derived from JJ. BJJ cant stop a bullet either, just like it cant stop my arm bar.
ikcjjtt 1 year ago
@ikcjjtt
It can't stop you're armbar? Haha yeah right. And who are you?
Just because something came from something, doesn't mean what it came from is better. BJJ was basically structured under the Gracie style and how many Gracies get choked out yearly? Because even though it came from the Gracies others made it better just like BJJ made Judo better on the ground, Judo is an awesome martial art but its out dated, much like Jujutsu the martial art of Samurais.
indio2dr 1 year ago
@indio2dr "Just because something came from something, doesn't mean what it came from is better" I never argued that. My point is BJJ is not some superior art that can beat everything in the entire world. No such thing as an outdated art, martial arts evolve, this isnt the 60s. I dont find it crediable that people claim i cant grapple because i take catch wreslting and jujutsu. As if BJJ is the only way to grapple.
ikcjjtt 1 year ago
@ikcjjtt No you clearly said Jujutsu was better than BJJ, that's why I'm arguing with you. Catch wrestling can beat BJJ but I doubt it could beat someone like Jacare.
indio2dr 1 year ago
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@indio2dr No i did not. I said " You truly can't expect one to always out due the other. I have out grappled BJJ guys, wreslters, and JJ guys. Dont sit here and tell me JJ doesnt work because its not BJJ. BJJ is derived from judo which is derived from JJ. BJJ cant stop a bullet either, just like it cant stop my arm bar".
And i also said that if BJJ was so superior why did it lose to a catch wrelster? My point is there is no such thing as a superior art. It goes down to individuals and-
ikcjjtt 1 year ago
@indio2dr situations. You are arguing with me because you said that BJJ was superior and couldnt be beat.
ikcjjtt 1 year ago
@ikcjjtt I never said it couldn't be beat, Sakuraba beat Royce Gracie and Yoshida beat him two, that's Judo and Catch Wrestling. What I'm saying is essentially the top guy in BJJ could beat the top guy in JJ, Judo and Catch Wrestling. Jacare has been in Abu Dhabi which is essentially catch wrestling.
indio2dr 1 year ago
@indio2dr Okay hold on... First of all it's Samurai not Samurais. The word Samurai act as both plural and singular. And let me just end this argument of yours here... A lot of grapple heavy martial arts like "BJJ" as you call it are only as good as how well they're taught to defend against other styles. Most martial arts, BJJ included primarily teach you to defend against anything that uses BJJ, or grapple heavy styles. So shut the fuck up because one well placed knee to the temple ends BJJ.
Crisisprince66 1 year ago
@Crisisprince66 Fail. If Jujutsu was so good how come it isn't practiced in MMA? Its where every martial myth was debunked. You guys have the idea that "JUJUTSU IS THE SHIT IT HAS THOUSANDS OF YEARS IT WOULD KILL BJJ!!". I feel like I'm arguing with the occasional Kung Fu/Karate "black belt" claiming they can beat anyone.
indio2dr 1 year ago
@indio2dr Jujutsu is BJJ. They are 99.9% similiar. I train in both. So it is in MMA. Because BJJ is JJ.
ikcjjtt 1 year ago
@ikcjjtt BJJ focuses more on ground while JJ focuses on a more well rounded approach.
indio2dr 1 year ago
they should have done Tae Kwan Do's ancestor Tang Soo Do, much deadlier and works better out of competition.
ZombieSlayer762 1 year ago 7
@ZombieSlayer762
I have to agree. But once again it also depends on the fighter.
chrisnealson 1 year ago
@ZombieSlayer762 -raises hand- and taekkyon
1peterkim123 1 year ago
@1peterkim123
amen to that one, that is Tang Soo Do's ancestor art, so many better arts from Korea than Tae Kwan Do.
ZombieSlayer762 1 year ago
@ZombieSlayer762 tang soo do is TKD. just a different form of it. its all TKD. there is a bigger difference between shotokan karate and kyukushin karate than chung do kwan TKD and tang soo do.
ikcjjtt 1 year ago
@ikcjjtt
TKD is NOT tang soo do, TKD is a watered down version ment for sport. taking out almost ALL of the arm techniques that tang soo do uses and only useing the leg techniques. when it comes to kicks, yes they are the same, how you use the kicks changes, but they are the same kicks, yes, the reason TKD has become as popular as it has is because its easy to learn, thats about it. tang soo do resembles Karate more than anything. theres a reason it is called Korean Karate by some people.
ZombieSlayer762 1 year ago
@ZombieSlayer762 Chung do kwan was the 1st TKD, so anything that isnt called that could be considered watered down. But watered down TKD is STILL TKD. Same technqiues and everything. Even olympic style has its traditional training outside of sport.
ikcjjtt 1 year ago
@ZombieSlayer762 i agree with you. but i'm not sure if many people know about tangsoodo.
hyoboy81 10 months ago
@ZombieSlayer762 Mudoo Kwan Taekwondo, not traditonal style. Dont confuse the two. Taewkondo's roots are Taekkeyon and Subak. thats the tradtional non-Olympic style.
ThanagarianTragedy 10 months ago
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@ZombieSlayer762 Mudoo Kwan Taekwondo, not traditonal style. Dont confuse the two. Taekwondo's roots are Taekkeyon and Subak. thats the tradtional non-Olympic style.
ThanagarianTragedy 10 months ago
@ZombieSlayer762 taekwondo came before tang soo do. taekwondo's only ancestor is taekkyeon. tang soo do is actually a variant of taekwondo. also, no technique or fighting style is more deadly or effective than another. a style is only as deadly as the person using it.
psikiguy7 7 months ago 12
@psikiguy7 dont forget about Subak. that and taekkyeon were the original martial arts which eventually formed into taekowndo with he influence of karate in some dojangs after the Japanese invasion of korea ended in 1945. Live, Love, Taekwondo!!
Chazerbaijann 4 months ago
@psikiguy7 Correction sir, Tangsoo-Do (Way of the Chinese Hand) came to Korea from Japan. It Japanese it is called Kara-te! Many schools of Tangsoo-Do began to alter their curriculum and eventually merged into what is now know as Taekwondo. If you wish to dispute I request you support your claims with reference material.
batemanTKD 2 months ago
@batemanTKD To be honest, debating about something that I don't care about is a waste of my time. Thanks for taking the time to make yourself sound like a douchebag though ;)
psikiguy7 2 months ago
@psikiguy7 I apologize for an attempt to provide education. I will leave you with your limitation! Regards
batemanTKD 2 months ago
@batemanTKD I would have a limitation if I had actually had any interest in Tang Soo Do. You aren't my Master. So goodbye.
psikiguy7 2 months ago
@psikiguy7 well I know that's not true... look up okinawan karate... far more deadlier than taekwondo... also dim mak... my personal belief system is... Don't limit yourself to one style!
lightless2 1 month ago
when it shows bren puting his hands in open position in frount of his face, that is the 2ed dan starting position for the form.
jesusgod99 1 year ago
@jesusgod99 yeah but the other movements though, seriously seemed like he was doing Koryo and not the second dan poomse. Then again, that's prolly WTF... I didn't study WTF.
Crisisprince66 1 year ago
The TKD fighter seems really cocky.
artfan101 1 year ago
@artfan101 that's because Bren Foster is a world renouned douche bag with no actual credit for actually applying his skills outside of a ring.
Crisisprince66 1 year ago
Chuck Norris Dosent Need to React. He Dosent have enemies
omar4235 1 year ago 9
@omar4235 True dat. Who in their right mind would mess with Chuck?
CyberNinjaDestroyer 1 year ago
@omar4235 would people stop with the stupid Chuck Norris shit, Chuck Norris is NOTHING! Yeah sure, he can beat a bitch's ass with no sweat, but we dont have to praise him for God sake, nobody cares about Chuck Norris right now
JJRocker538 1 year ago
im pretty sure taekwondo can brake a bat
i have broken 10wooden boards with an axe kick
.7 inch thick
blueC0MET 1 year ago
@blueC0MET -boards don't hit back; Bruce Lee-
Honestly it really p.o's me when someone tries to accurately measure their martial art by saying how many boards or bricks they can break and how thick each of them were. Brick/board breaking is a mental confidence builder put into physicality.
It's used to tell you in a way, "In order to move onto the next level of training this wall needs to come down, this old barrier that no longer needs to be there now must fall." that's y they use boards. =P
Crisisprince66 1 year ago
@Crisisprince66 boards dont hit back, but they sure as hell measure who can hit hard, fast, with power and concentration.
ikcjjtt 1 year ago
@ikcjjtt Not particularly because you can't determine the same stress placed upon a board to break it in comparison to human bone because of the difference in denisities and composites.
Crisisprince66 1 year ago
@Crisisprince66 no one is comparing anything to human bone. If you want to break bones- take some jujutsu. My arguement is breaking boards is a way to test out focus, power, concentration, technique, and confidence. Without these things you can not break anything, not even paper. If i can punch through 5 boards, it means my punch has some degree of power to it, and i have the focus and technique to put that power to use. Thats all breaking boards are for.
ikcjjtt 1 year ago
@ikcjjtt If you wanna break bones then get a bat. Comparing human bones to "boards" has to be the most retarded thing I've heard in a while. And yes you are correct about the focus part about boards. The whole point of this argument is I think Jujutsu is not as effective of a martial art as BJJ is. If Jujutsu was such an effective martial art then US Army would be teaching it and MMA fighters would have it as a standard.
indio2dr 1 year ago
@indio2dr i never once compared boards to bones. I know wat you think, but BJJ and JJ are really too similiar to even be having this discussion. The USA Army trains in Jujutsu, not BJJ. My seageant was a amatuer MMA fighter trained in jujutsu by the Army. When i used an armbar technique from BJJ, he told me the technique was not used in the army and instead showed me a traditional JJ armbar technque.But BJJ is JJ, they are too similiar to be claiming one is better than the other.-
ikcjjtt 1 year ago
@ikcjjtt No they're not that similar, JJ incorporates striking and throws into their martial art while BJJ focuses less on throws and on the ground game.
indio2dr 1 year ago
@indio2dr i would rather argue for catch wreslting. Its like Karate vs TKD in a point style match, no punches to the face.The shit is 99.9% similiar under those rules. At least throw in some muay thai and savate to actually mix it up a bit. btw, Tang soo do IS TKD. That comment has been bothering me forever. Tang soo do is to TKD as JJ is to BJJ. The differences in them is miniscuel- i trained in all four!
ikcjjtt 1 year ago
@ikcjjtt BJJ and JJ are similar much like how BJJ and Sambo are but the difference is one focuses more on ground fighting than the other. Its simple.
indio2dr 1 year ago
@indio2dr The US Military teaches an americanized version of Russian Sambo, and I'd like you to tell me I'm wrong because both my father and brother are green berets and my cousin is USMC
Crisisprince66 1 year ago
@indio2dr The US Military teaches an americanized version of Russian Sambo, and I'd like you to tell me I'm wrong because both my father and brother are army and my cousin is USMC, The special forces of each regimine get trained in stuff like jujitsu and other kill them fast martial arts.
Crisisprince66 1 year ago
@Crisisprince66 No they don't dickface, unless when I was in the National Guard I was completely retarded then they taught me BJJ.
indio2dr 1 year ago
@ikcjjtt okay, I can agree with this. It's just we were taught to think of a different attitude when it came to board breaking is all.
Crisisprince66 1 year ago
@Crisisprince66 Board compared to human bone? What the fuck are you talking about? The way they break boards is the easy way, instead of having the lines (wood lines) on the board going down, put them across and try breaking it like that, its a classic traditional martial art bullshit myth. Not saying its easy to do it but they do it the easier way.
indio2dr 1 year ago
@indio2dr Well first of all, when making the comparison between board and bone I was stating it is not a good one and wasn't even talking to you so you can shut the fuck up. And second, Dojangs, dojos, and schools for martial arts sit there and score (placing lines across the board) so it makes it easier for little kids to break the boards. Why don't you actually go to a dojo or something and learn a few things rather than sitting on your ass and claiming you know everything?
Crisisprince66 1 year ago
@Crisisprince66 So a board is as hard as a bone right?
indio2dr 1 year ago
@indio2dr and ikcjjtt why don't you both shut the fuck up and stop trying to be smart? You both are making my brain hurt with your asstard logic.
Crisisprince66 1 year ago
@Crisisprince66 Haha failed. Couldn't keep up with the debate so resorted to name calling like every random butthurt youtuber. Go take some debating class you noob, talking about USA teaches a military Sambo what the fuck are you talking about?
indio2dr 1 year ago
@19thaman79
you cant be serious!
some taekwondo kicks produce over1,000
pounds of force which is more then enough
to break a bat. trust me i know ive done it
before.
MrDanielmcpheeters 1 year ago
@MrDanielmcpheeters Sure you have.
19thaman79 1 year ago
@19thaman79 i have seen it done before not by him but a friend of mine
actionmanrandell 1 year ago
They did another episode testing the strongest kick and taekwondo won by a lot
GingerSkate7 2 years ago 3
@GingerSkate7 That episode is what convinced me to get back into taekwondo after TEN YEARS
RenegadeArms09 2 years ago
won strongest kick, i should have specified
GingerSkate7 2 years ago
No it didn't. Muay Thai did.
19thaman79 2 years ago
They did the test again and TKD dominated Muay thai.
GingerSkate7 2 years ago
I wouldn't say "dominated". I made a mistake, the MT fighter used his knee and posted the hardest hit ever recorded on fight science. I would love to see the TKD fight try to break a bat with a kick.
19thaman79 2 years ago
it is not the same episode as this. TKD and MT both did their style's type of roundhouse kick. MT got 1300 psi, TKD got 2400 psi.
GingerSkate7 2 years ago
The TKD fight performed a spinning side kick and registered alittle over 1500 lbs of pressure. The MT fighter used his knee which was registered in deflection not pressure.
19thaman79 2 years ago
How many times do i have to say this, they tested it twice. in one instance what you said happened in the other what i said did, they tested strongest kick twice.
GingerSkate7 2 years ago
@GingerSkate7 who cares what the shows results were its not legitimate they didnt factor in weight they simply tested people from different styles of different size and weight
actionmanrandell 1 year ago
@actionmanrandell fair enough ill agree with that. i was just tired of MT people use the results to say they had the strongest kicks
GingerSkate7 1 year ago
@19thaman79 on one episode they tested muay thai tae kwon do karate capoiera but they were dumb they had a guy who was an expert in tae kwon do use karate and but the results were interesting the capoera fighter kicked at 99 miles per hour.. with around 1500 to 1800 lbs of force the muay thai had a 130 mile an hour kick with around 1500 lbs of force the karate fighter had a 60 to 70 miles an hour and had around 700 lbs of force and the tae kwon do fighter had 136 mh kc at over 2000lbs of force
actionmanrandell 1 year ago 2
ive seen tkd break bats wit kicks before
christopasna1 1 year ago
@19thaman79 no he did not have the highest numbers ever he had the force of a 32 mile an hour car crash which is around 2200 lbs of force where in on the episode with bas ruten his kick had the force of a 38 mile car crash which is far more powerful
actionmanrandell 1 year ago
O really?...What type of McDojo where you in?
ratonL 2 years ago
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!!!
KAZUYAninja 2 years ago
this guy's so fuc*in annoying.
My opinion, I know, if it contradicts your own...
It does :)
SubzeroedMind 2 years ago
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DunkableDave 2 years ago
He wanted to look sexy for you.
19thaman79 2 years ago
If TKD master did well in classes and competitions,they might go to special TKD schools. The only schools i know is in Korea and Vietnam
Hell6125 2 years ago
I prefer kung fu, so i can train my interior organ to improve health.
KlausYTY 2 years ago
that world taekwondo champion guy doesnt seem to have good stamina
Kniitte 2 years ago 3
nice :P
8tommylee8 2 years ago
guns is safer
kaindrg 2 years ago
weak mind set
italianmartialartist 2 years ago
taekkyon is pretty good too plus vovinam
Kniitte 2 years ago
Gay.
celnaz 2 years ago
:) I agree...
they could've at least showed it...
SubzeroedMind 2 years ago
I prefer a knife.
ratonL 2 years ago
mma not an art...
its just mix of technique of martial art...
but it is not art... its just technique that makes you win. makes u strong.. makes u superior... but never an art of self defense...
i prefer muay thai, shaolin kung fu, wing chun, capoiera, ninjutsu, jiu jitsu, silat, karate and tae kwondo
cipantapirtenuk 2 years ago 3
why would you prefer ninjitsu? real ninjitsu is what a real ninja does.... sent to kill a lord in japan dripping poison down from a thin thread to kill a person in sleep... hopping through buildings at night... throwing shirukens and mastering geography.... real ninjitsu wasn't made for self defense just to assassinate so you wouldn't confront someone if you were a ninja, most likely kill them in their sleep
backatchalol 2 years ago
I agree. Ninjas were good at stealth but sucked at CQB. Basicly If someone saw you, you werent a ninja you were some dude in black PJs. So you sure as shit didnt confront people no matter what the movies and Naruto makes you believe.
redith137 2 years ago
@redith137
I disagree. Just because ninja used stealth doesn't make them bad fighters any more than it makes special ops bad fighters. Look up some ninjutsu vids and you'll see their martial art has striking, grappling, and weapons, and it's pretty damn good at them.
BlueSaryu 2 years ago
@redith137 actually historically speaking ninjas did not wear black outfits they wore a dark blue outfit and had body armor in there outfits and were heavily trained in hand to hand weapons and more they often doubled as a samurai
actionmanrandell 1 year ago
@backatchalol in real life ninjas also trained heavily in hand to hand combat and were masters witha sword they often spyed as samurai and had to be very skilled to make other samurai believe they were samurai
actionmanrandell 1 year ago
I'll stick with my mauy tai and boxing.
slugger1983 2 years ago
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tae kwon do is a joke
vordonez12 2 years ago
@vordonez12 , have you trained in Taekwondo before?
falawful 2 years ago
I have in fact so nice try. It is a sport and the art of kicking, not a martial art. I am now training in Shaolin Kenpo and I feel it is a MUCH more efficient martial art.
vordonez12 2 years ago
partly true, i'd say tkd is kind of a hybrid it was designed as a martial art, and practiced that way. but then in 2000 is when it became an olympic sport. thats why you dont here to much about it other than in the olympic wtf and itf sparring. i have a 2nd degree and at my school we learn taekwondo as a selfdefense fit for modern life combined with hapkido. i guees it just matters what school you attend.
falawful 2 years ago
Thats good. I just don't understand it when people call the sport form a self defense system. I didn't mean to go against it just annoys me when people call the sport a self defense.
vordonez12 2 years ago 4
It started becoming a sport when people started looking at taekwondo as a business. I practice taekwondo and it is sad to see real taekwondo schools disapearing man. I know what you mean when you say its a joke. But i practiced taekwondo in Russia and trust me man in America its a joke over there... Its something else
humper3000 2 years ago 2
TKD is self-defense. It became a sport in 2000. TKD is taught in the military.
RemyLeBeau102 2 years ago 3
but thats different from teh commer TKD which is sport TKD military tkd differes greatly
kaindrg 2 years ago
Indeed, but it does depend on the master. My grandmaster taught in the Korean Marines. And his teaching here, is influenced by Marine style TKD. IDK how other Masters instruct their classes.
RemyLeBeau102 2 years ago
My Instructor teaches the combat variation as well Rem. He's a 6th Dan in tradtional TaeKwonDo. Far different then what I see people commenting on here. The typical Youtube trolls :P
Coads26 2 years ago