Reining in For-Profit Higher Education

[190819862011]

The amount of loans should be determined based on the student's academic performance. These for profit schools do not have high standards when it comes to academic eligibility or even performance; therefore, students who are graduating in the lower percentile aren't competitive in the market. After 1st year, if a student isn't doing well, he or she should NOT be able to take out loans. That would be a restriction worth having....

[gsvkck]

@halflinks It seems republicans hate democrats so much they would rather be ripped off than to allow democrats to pass good policies to protect them.

[slapcompany]

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[ATG0009]

EDUCATION WAS AND STILL IS THE TOOL OF ENSLAVEMENT FOR THE MASSES!

[Justasimpleservant74]

@ATG0009 ARE YOU SERIOUS?!

[Fray2221]

@ATG0009 THE GOVERNMENT IS USING LOWER CASE LETTERS TO KEEP US ENSLAVED11111

[tullymox]

Do your own test to see how respected degrees from For-Profits are. Apply for jobs and put "University of Phoenix" or "Heald College" on your resume instead of a non-profit and see how many offers you receive. All you need to know about what these schools are about is to see what the industry was like prior to the early 90s, when the first decent regulations went into effect. For-profits were more diploma mills more often than not.

[zjones1222]

@tullymox You need to rethink your means of understanding that a great number of students have received employment and some of the Universities in question have been around much longer than a minute. Infact, a substanial number of these schools including the University of Phoenix have ground locations providing class room atmospheres with text books which students must meet required metrics. It's a far cry from a diploma mill when some of these Universities have been around since the 1970's.

[KrisinIndy]

Go & get 'em Mr. Nassirian!

[stevenchaisson]

why aren't the public education and liberal arts degrees subject to this test

[KrisinIndy]

@stevenchaisson Because no one is calling you at your house from 8am to 9pm marketing "education" to you from a public institution...nor is one person at those schools responsible for all facets of your admissions/financial aid/enrollment process.

[stevenchaisson]

This is a save public college education program, same as public hospital system. Anyone ever heard of equal protection in 14th amendment, how about anti trust, monopolies, how about discrimination, a minor with a job and a single parent who can go to a traditional public college system.

[sandbar3000]

I may return to University of Redlands - which is a NON-PROFIT college. I got my undergrad in business from UofR. No regrets there. I should have never left.

[jamesjdm]

Gainful Student Employment is a TERRIBLE way to deal with the FEW for-profit schools that are not providing a viable service to their students.

here is what will happen.

1. Students that are ALREADY IN PROGRAMS will be LEFT W/O A DEGREE PROGRAM and will be LEFT WITH THOUSANDS IN DEBT. Who will that serve? How will that help the "consumer"?

2. This will lock of lower income students from higher education.

3. IT IS OUR CHOICE WHERE WE GO TO SCHOOL, not the NANNY GOV.

[SparxHCS]

watch?v=tQsdHnWxvOQ College loans debt now higher than credit card debt

[sandbar3000]

@SparxHCS, ha ha. I had 7K in ccd. I learned quickly that many have $50K in ccd. My cc debt can be paid off in no time - If I can find work! I thought that cc debt was bad. I owe about $40K to UofR for my undergrad (mind you, I transfered as a junior from a 2 year college) and I have about another $20K for my first year MBA to pay back to Argosy. I have one more year for my MBA. By the time I'm done, I'll owe (all together) about $80K.

[DRCelebs]

@MrPolysyllabic you r right

[jamesjdm]

@MrPolysyllabic

and you are who exactly to judge which schools are worthy of gov assistance? you also must realize that closing these programs down will leave MILLIONS of students w/o a degree and thousands in debt...tell me, how does that help anyone??? You are a fool to believe the government knows anything about this issue or what is best.

[MrPolysyllabic]

@jamesjdm And you must work for a proprietary school. Recruiter, huh? You're the one that pressures curious young people into signing over tens of thousands dollars in student loans, for a degree that is worthless. You trick the poorest and neediest people in our society into thinking that traditional colleges cant help them, when in fact that is the only way to get a respected degree. Anyone can get into a community or state college and the tuition is a fraction of for-profit schools.

[sandbar3000]

@MrPolysyllabic,do you think all degree are "worthless"? So, a respected college is cool with you? The only reason I didn't go to Cal State San Bernardino was: I was working full-time - I couldn't just leave work at 4:30pm to get to class at 5:30pm. I choose to go to a more expensive school (University of Redlands) since class was one night a week (and had face-to-face classes) and started at 6pm. Some UofP students don't enjoy all of the online classes, and they transfer to UofR.

[MrPolysyllabic]

@sandbar3000 I couldn't be quoted saying that all degrees are worthless. The real trouble is when you laden yourself with $50-100k+ in debt then find out your degree is laughed at by the professional community (the way most for-profit degrees will leave you). Understand that students and their choices are not to blame or the problem. You made a decision that seemed right for you, but, how much of that decision hinged on the influence of a for-profit recruiter?

[sandbar3000]

@MrPolysyllabic, When I went to University of Redlands - I went since I wasn't treated as a number. (UofR is non-profit). I went to Argosy in '09 since my friend goes there and HE got me interesed in the school. Argosy never came to me personally, I went to them first. The big question is, who went to my friend back in 2003? He started as an undergrad in '03 - and is now finishing up in masters in psychology. A big time recuriter could have called him! My friend likes Argosy, I do not.

[MrPolysyllabic]

@jamesjdm Your problem: You believe education is a product, that students are consumers. Education is a basic human right, and the only payment anyone should make for it is to cover actual costs, not to line the pockets of shareholders and board members. You are closed minded and naive or just plain evil. You are lying through your teeth and playing people against the Govt in order to keep them in your recruiting line, dumping billions each year down the toilet for a worthless sheet of paper.