le STYLE: octo 95 remake woluwe releve au sol police forest couple au volant av ariane vers RTL venant des grands boulevards.. semaphore sous controle ...verts des cotés style erasme : collisions frontales moyens docs safe liquidations ..qlq uns
ich hab die Rennen auch fast alle gesehen.. (geb:1962 )so wie niki Lauda sagt: das waren Blechdosen....mindestens jedes Jahr ein Toter....find auch das die autos wieder downgegradet werden...wie auch immer! balance technik-fahrer...bei echten sport sollts nur um den fahrer gehen!
madre mi ke terrible accidente pero algunos de los aficionados salio con algun problema por ke por ai habia bastante geneten esa zona esto es l malo de la formula pero ahora todo es as moderno y ya va todo mejor pero yo no se donde esta el director de carrera cuando se le necesita solo dicta las normas eso tambien lo hago yo y tan tranqilo muere un persona dice estoy muy disgustado y y esta asi ocurre lo de este video por ke ai no vi a nae de seguridad
El final de la bajada de Bugatti. Los que conocemos un poco el Jarama hemos visto decenas de accidentes en esa sección, y en días de tandas libres, ni te cuento.
Impensable hacer hoy carreras de alta competición en este circuito, las escapatorias son cortisimas en sitios clave (bugatti, super 7), las instalaciones, gradas, etc, estan anticuadas...
Una pena que el circuito esté muriendo lentamente y no se pueda remediar.
Tienes toda la razón paso a menudo ante él y recuerdo que estábamos encantados de que la fórmula 1 nos visitara en Madrid, fueron muchos días de carreras y reuniones de amigos en torno a la R8, la 1430, los GT sin olvidar a Nieto o Agostini… cuestión de pasta, como todo!
En fin! Gracias por tu acertado comentario un saludo de tu amigo, Javier.
Soprry but here ios a mistake in putting JacK BRABHAM involved in that accident.It was just passing here , like others drivers;He said it, but by no means was involved , nor causing the accident.He profit rather of it, then catching Jackie Stewart for the lead.Only OLIVER and Ickx, as your videos prove it, , got involved.
all i have to say is the marshals are idiots for trying to put out the fire while the race was continuing, maybe it could of been stopped until it was put out.
En verdad que en aquellos años seguia la f1 por revistas que llegaban 15 o 20 dias despues que se editaran.. nunca habia visto este accidente excepto por fotografias... en verdad es terrible y el concepto de seguridad no existia. Por Algo Jackie Stewart lucho tanto por ese tema en F1.. Nunca olvido la imagen de Stewart cuando e entero de la muerte de Roger Williamson.. Le guste o no a mucha gente, la F1 en concepto de seguridad debe bastante a Stewart
Ickx was 20 sec in the fire. His back was badly hurt by the flames, He underwent skin transplant as the result of third degree burns, and stayed a couple of weeks in the hospita. This time he did not break any bone. And Brabham was not involved in the accident.
Perhaps it is me but I did not see Brabham involved. In fact he appears to come round later and his car is sprayed with extinguishant foam. Did he have something to do with the original coming together of Ickx and Oliver?
@spitfireJEJ You're right, Brabham wasn't involved at all - we see his car in 2nd place just before the accident happens, well ahead of the shunt. Basically, I think that Jackie Oliver was making a charge and overcooked it (no pun intended) into the corner, t-boning Ickx. But yes, both drivers were lucky to escape without serious injury.
@buffscrag It seems I'm doing Jackie Oliver an injustice - I've just read that the BRM suffered an axle stub failure, so the car would have been pretty unmanageable!
This video is over-dramatic - no one was killed, or seriously injured. Jacky Ickx and Jackie Oliver would both continue to have long careers. A frightening accident, as all fire-related crashes are, but it looked worse than it was.
Ickx was 20 sec in the fire. His back was badly hurt by the flames and i think he had a leg or arm broken or injured. 2 weeks in hospital was the result. In those days fireprove clothing was not at today's standards.
Ickx's Ferrari started rolling across the track and it is absolutely amazing just how amateurish the fire fighting was - along with the fact that the race wasn't even stopped! Ickx couldn't get his belts undone, hence the 20 secs before he extracated himself. He received burns on his back but mercifully no broken bones. I have met Ickx since and he remains a modest and talkative individual, who's happy to talk about other things beside motor racing.
@kdog4791 If the race isn't red flagged, you don't stop racing. How much more dangerous do you think it would get if half the field was parked on the track?
Snowy, está bién indicado, compí. Fué en pegio ("9" en el plano, pasado Bugatti), no en Le mans ("3"). Lo que está mal indicado es que Brabham no tiene nada que ver con esto. Fueron solo Ickx y Olivier. Bajo mi punto de vista, montaje sensacionalista, insustancial y además poco documentado.
pararse es lo mas peligroso querido amigo , si te paras provocas un choque en cadena , hay que pasar y alejarse del accidente para dejar libre el sentido de la pista por donde vendrán las asistencias
I can't believe the image at around 0.45 of a marshall projecting some fire extinguisher across the track, with the cars going by between him and the fire :| Incredibly stupid and dangerous as well ..
Besides, the drivers of what appear to be a Brabham and a Matra must have eaten some of the content of that fire extinguisher ..
Ickx suffered some severe burns in this accident, but was back in the car in just 17 days. He continued racing Formula 1 through the 1979 season, and raced sports prototypes through the 1985 season, when he had an accident with his teammate Stephan Bellof in which Bellof was killed.
This video's title misidentifies the other car involved. It was not Jack Brabham, but Jackie Oliver.
Stefan Bellof wasn´t his teammate in 1985. He was his teammate in 83 and 84 in the factory team, while in 85 Bellof started for the privateer team of Walter Brun, to concentrate on his F1 career.
Es la primera vez que veo esta precisa imagen del video.. Tuve la oportunidad de verlo desde otra camara y algunas fotos... Debo decir que tanto los GP´s españoles en Jarama o Montjuich, eran terriblemente peligrosos
la verdad es q si, solo se puede catalogar de milagro q nadie saliese herido o algo peor, por q cuando arde el coche me vienen a la cabeza las tragicas imagenes del accidente en Zandvoort de Roger Williamson, y David Purley bajando de su coche para intentar dar la vuelta al coche en llamas...
efectivamente era otra epoca, Jackie Stewart siempre dice q su mayor logro fué salir vivo de aquella epoca y razon no le falta.
Has citado uno de los accidentes más angustiosos que hemos tenido ocasión, por desgracia, de ver en F1.
Asistí en los años 70 al Jarama y los boxes eran de risa, parecían el taller de la esquina de casa y al piloto le sobresalía medio cuerpo fuera del coche, que por cierto era pequeñísimo.
Si vemos el accidente de Villeneuve, ni te cuento, sale despedido del coche por esa razón el cuerpo ya lo llevaba fuera.
Que barbaro! Los extintores descargando, incluso sobre algunos bolidos, y estos aun intentan seguir a toda velocidad. Es un milagro que no hubiera peores desastres en cada carrera.
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TheAxellle 4 weeks ago
Obviously those stupid son of a bitches never heard of a red flag.
Saikano2012 3 months ago
ich hab die Rennen auch fast alle gesehen.. (geb:1962 )so wie niki Lauda sagt: das waren Blechdosen....mindestens jedes Jahr ein Toter....find auch das die autos wieder downgegradet werden...wie auch immer! balance technik-fahrer...bei echten sport sollts nur um den fahrer gehen!
josiband 4 months ago
que locura ponerse ahi a mirar los coches, suerte que hoy ha cambiado TODO en este mundillo
THEsyntheticFresh 4 months ago
Comme par hasard ? 1 laffite ?!
MrBakerfield 4 months ago
Que precariedad y eso fue una culada de accidente,pero con esos tanques si que miedo,claro es verdad eran otros tiempos...
Arianovich 5 months ago
madre mi ke terrible accidente pero algunos de los aficionados salio con algun problema por ke por ai habia bastante geneten esa zona esto es l malo de la formula pero ahora todo es as moderno y ya va todo mejor pero yo no se donde esta el director de carrera cuando se le necesita solo dicta las normas eso tambien lo hago yo y tan tranqilo muere un persona dice estoy muy disgustado y y esta asi ocurre lo de este video por ke ai no vi a nae de seguridad
Christian94215 5 months ago
Lamentable que eso circuito esté muriendo. Inolvidables carreras en Madrid.
yuripapov 7 months ago
they shoud stop the race ,,
the car was fireing !!!!!
Mayed9990 7 months ago
jacky ickx is mi primo!
sukkel352 8 months ago
Creepy ass music!
thegreatbasher 9 months ago
chequen mis videos de accidentes
accidentesfatales1 9 months ago
El final de la bajada de Bugatti. Los que conocemos un poco el Jarama hemos visto decenas de accidentes en esa sección, y en días de tandas libres, ni te cuento.
Impensable hacer hoy carreras de alta competición en este circuito, las escapatorias son cortisimas en sitios clave (bugatti, super 7), las instalaciones, gradas, etc, estan anticuadas...
Una pena que el circuito esté muriendo lentamente y no se pueda remediar.
danikasuomi 1 year ago
@danikasuomi
Tienes toda la razón paso a menudo ante él y recuerdo que estábamos encantados de que la fórmula 1 nos visitara en Madrid, fueron muchos días de carreras y reuniones de amigos en torno a la R8, la 1430, los GT sin olvidar a Nieto o Agostini… cuestión de pasta, como todo!
En fin! Gracias por tu acertado comentario un saludo de tu amigo, Javier.
jotauveele 1 year ago
Ickx sur Ferrari 312 B (pas Brabham) e Oliver sur BRM
Sirebrunolocksley 1 year ago
Soprry but here ios a mistake in putting JacK BRABHAM involved in that accident.It was just passing here , like others drivers;He said it, but by no means was involved , nor causing the accident.He profit rather of it, then catching Jackie Stewart for the lead.Only OLIVER and Ickx, as your videos prove it, , got involved.
serengiv 1 year ago
peccato davvero !!! com'e' il tittolo della canzone che si sente nel video ?? qualcuno lo sa ??? grazie tante
ascanico 1 year ago
UFG
ascanico 1 year ago
all i have to say is the marshals are idiots for trying to put out the fire while the race was continuing, maybe it could of been stopped until it was put out.
birrman2008 1 year ago
En verdad que en aquellos años seguia la f1 por revistas que llegaban 15 o 20 dias despues que se editaran.. nunca habia visto este accidente excepto por fotografias... en verdad es terrible y el concepto de seguridad no existia. Por Algo Jackie Stewart lucho tanto por ese tema en F1.. Nunca olvido la imagen de Stewart cuando e entero de la muerte de Roger Williamson.. Le guste o no a mucha gente, la F1 en concepto de seguridad debe bastante a Stewart
Mikewhitepy 1 year ago
in realtà l'incidente avvenne tra la Ferrari di Ickx e la BRM di Oliver, allora recenti vincitori della 24 ore di Le Mans del 1969 con la Ford GT 40.
uomodelnord 1 year ago
Ickx was 20 sec in the fire. His back was badly hurt by the flames, He underwent skin transplant as the result of third degree burns, and stayed a couple of weeks in the hospita. This time he did not break any bone. And Brabham was not involved in the accident.
gnuckx 1 year ago
Cuando la F1 era cosa de hombres
iagoil 1 year ago
pero murio el chabon xq no entendi caul de los 3 murieron...
salu2
ElForTin18 1 year ago
@ElForTin18 nadie salio herido del accidente.
mauroal72 1 year ago
Perhaps it is me but I did not see Brabham involved. In fact he appears to come round later and his car is sprayed with extinguishant foam. Did he have something to do with the original coming together of Ickx and Oliver?
spitfireJEJ 1 year ago
@spitfireJEJ You're right, Brabham wasn't involved at all - we see his car in 2nd place just before the accident happens, well ahead of the shunt. Basically, I think that Jackie Oliver was making a charge and overcooked it (no pun intended) into the corner, t-boning Ickx. But yes, both drivers were lucky to escape without serious injury.
buffscrag 1 year ago
@buffscrag It seems I'm doing Jackie Oliver an injustice - I've just read that the BRM suffered an axle stub failure, so the car would have been pretty unmanageable!
buffscrag 1 year ago
No one died this day, true, but they generally died like flies back then. There was no reason for it.
filthyphillyboy 1 year ago
c'est Ickx et Oliver, brabham n'a rien à voir avec l'accident
Maxdiavin 2 years ago
si, il derape ans les flammes plus tard
tommykl 1 year ago
ufff!!!! eran otros tiempos...
SuperSargenta 2 years ago
po podria aber sesticar (sc)
betisable 2 years ago
This video is over-dramatic - no one was killed, or seriously injured. Jacky Ickx and Jackie Oliver would both continue to have long careers. A frightening accident, as all fire-related crashes are, but it looked worse than it was.
fearbeforefearbefore 2 years ago 30
@fearbeforefearbefore
Ickx was 20 sec in the fire. His back was badly hurt by the flames and i think he had a leg or arm broken or injured. 2 weeks in hospital was the result. In those days fireprove clothing was not at today's standards.
digoclocks 2 years ago
Ickx's Ferrari started rolling across the track and it is absolutely amazing just how amateurish the fire fighting was - along with the fact that the race wasn't even stopped! Ickx couldn't get his belts undone, hence the 20 secs before he extracated himself. He received burns on his back but mercifully no broken bones. I have met Ickx since and he remains a modest and talkative individual, who's happy to talk about other things beside motor racing.
rotterdam1953 2 years ago
Wow. As I see the collision, it doesn't look so bad.
I think Oliver hit the fuel tank.
PhoenixFirebreath 2 years ago
No...He just burned all up...Not so bad..
Joacone 2 years ago
Did somebody killed there ? :S i hope that noone died ... not like in Dutch GP or Kyalami
Djucky85 2 years ago
That's the way it was done. Brabham, obviously wasn't involved in the accident. They weren't idiots, or fools, or 'cabrones' they were heroes.
BIFF9901 2 years ago
porqué todavía corren los coches? los bomberos intentan apagar el fuego pero nadie para su coche! cabrones
icoddelosvinos 2 years ago 5
Jack Brabham??? Si no recuerdo mal estuvo luchando hasta muy avbanzada la carrera por la victoria
margranit 2 years ago
their still racing while the guy's trying to put the fire out. What fucking assholes!!
kdog4791 2 years ago 22
@kdog4791 yeaa, almost in every formula crash accident, the other dumbs keep racing, only a few guys stop to help
dbadgones 10 months ago
@kdog4791 The show must always go on
PodTony 8 months ago
@kdog4791 If the race isn't red flagged, you don't stop racing. How much more dangerous do you think it would get if half the field was parked on the track?
VoidSkipper 2 months ago
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jaja muy buena muerte
BioKiritah 2 years ago
I believe it's the corner number 3..
312t4 2 years ago
Snowy, está bién indicado, compí. Fué en pegio ("9" en el plano, pasado Bugatti), no en Le mans ("3"). Lo que está mal indicado es que Brabham no tiene nada que ver con esto. Fueron solo Ickx y Olivier. Bajo mi punto de vista, montaje sensacionalista, insustancial y además poco documentado.
javitoys75 2 years ago
Está mal indicado, el accidente se produjo en la curva 3 no en la 9 como pone al final del video con un círculo rojo!!!!
snowy3070 2 years ago
Yepp thats Jackie Oliver......no one else ever had a helmet painted like that! He was a great driver, especially in Can-Am. Him and Follmer.
1doc1savage1 2 years ago
name of song??
joaocavaca 2 years ago
the name of song is STFU
thegoddescomposer 2 years ago
THAT'S FUNKY!!! <: o
pablovalenzuela 2 years ago
peo la palmaron los tres o no¿??????
juaneramo 3 years ago
en otros tiempos eran gilipollas? vamos digo yo...hay un incendio en medio de la pista y no paran la carrera?
BRASIMETAL 3 years ago 5
No joda, si bien los pilotos eran más exigidos por los autos, o tenían ni un pelo de sentido común para detenerse mientras se encargaban del fuego.
Tan todos locos.
jajaja
ClioSportRS 3 years ago
Para correr en esos autos era requisito no tener sentido común. Estás en lo cierto. Estaban todos loquisimos
arielpombo 3 years ago
ja nunca lo habia visto...
q cerca q estaba la gente ..
excu11 3 years ago
This is from a time when race cars were more like incendiary bombs on wheels. Those guys were brave or stupid dont know which.
frogerhead 3 years ago
to frogerhead - neither brave nor stupids.
That was racing by then:cars,tracks,safety.
Not so amazing if you simply compare regular cars' safety in the 70es and today.
I'm scared when thinking back to the cars I've been driving when I was a teen..
indigoblue555 3 years ago 6
ha did you c the cars from 50's saftey i think wz a second thought
hitmanisbackmk2 2 years ago 4
sad :(
nick1999fleming 3 years ago
A bad day if you were called Jack and racing in F1 on that day...
1959BB 3 years ago
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fuck pilots !!!
DejvRok99FPS 3 years ago
wow,casi mueren
LordChampion665 3 years ago 3
pararse es lo mas peligroso querido amigo , si te paras provocas un choque en cadena , hay que pasar y alejarse del accidente para dejar libre el sentido de la pista por donde vendrán las asistencias
kurks699 3 years ago 5
no puedo creer como los otros pilotos siguen pasando estorbando que pueden apagar el incendio y no hacer nada.. que falta de companerismo y de ayuda.
PedroSalva 3 years ago 3
La musica da miedo tio...
usercualquiera 3 years ago 2
race should be stopped instead of watering driving cars by firefighter -.-
filiprogue 3 years ago 3
I can't believe the image at around 0.45 of a marshall projecting some fire extinguisher across the track, with the cars going by between him and the fire :| Incredibly stupid and dangerous as well ..
Besides, the drivers of what appear to be a Brabham and a Matra must have eaten some of the content of that fire extinguisher ..
JujuZer0 3 years ago 2
oh my god!
did anyone die?
wow u were lucky
2 see taht happen lve if u know what i meeen
herkie12643 3 years ago
According to wikipedia he retired in 1970 and lives in australia.
So i gues he survived it.... but I can't tell in what (burned?) state.
cadavernl 3 years ago
Ickx suffered some severe burns in this accident, but was back in the car in just 17 days. He continued racing Formula 1 through the 1979 season, and raced sports prototypes through the 1985 season, when he had an accident with his teammate Stephan Bellof in which Bellof was killed.
This video's title misidentifies the other car involved. It was not Jack Brabham, but Jackie Oliver.
Keeper1st 3 years ago
Stefan Bellof wasn´t his teammate in 1985. He was his teammate in 83 and 84 in the factory team, while in 85 Bellof started for the privateer team of Walter Brun, to concentrate on his F1 career.
BMWizardofOz 2 years ago
everybody survived, without serious injuries.
101Metallica 3 years ago
the suits are flame retardant
can hold of fire for a good amount of time
ZhongProductions 3 years ago
La primera vez que veo este accidente. IMPRESIONANTE.
estebanhuelva 3 years ago
Es la primera vez que veo esta precisa imagen del video.. Tuve la oportunidad de verlo desde otra camara y algunas fotos... Debo decir que tanto los GP´s españoles en Jarama o Montjuich, eran terriblemente peligrosos
elamigoinvisible2 3 years ago 3
Este año no estuve en el Jarama, si en años posteriores y conozco el circuito al dedillo, ahora seria impensable celebrar un GP en este circuito.
Un saludo, Javier.
jotauveele 3 years ago
la verdad es q si, solo se puede catalogar de milagro q nadie saliese herido o algo peor, por q cuando arde el coche me vienen a la cabeza las tragicas imagenes del accidente en Zandvoort de Roger Williamson, y David Purley bajando de su coche para intentar dar la vuelta al coche en llamas...
efectivamente era otra epoca, Jackie Stewart siempre dice q su mayor logro fué salir vivo de aquella epoca y razon no le falta.
se fueron muchos y muy grandes
dopiusklei 3 years ago
Has citado uno de los accidentes más angustiosos que hemos tenido ocasión, por desgracia, de ver en F1.
Asistí en los años 70 al Jarama y los boxes eran de risa, parecían el taller de la esquina de casa y al piloto le sobresalía medio cuerpo fuera del coche, que por cierto era pequeñísimo.
Si vemos el accidente de Villeneuve, ni te cuento, sale despedido del coche por esa razón el cuerpo ya lo llevaba fuera.
Hoy día impensable.
Sabias palabras de Stewart.
Gracias por comentar, Javier.
jotauveele 3 years ago
Est-ce qu'ils sont morts?
Do they were killed?
12dodo37 3 years ago
None was injured, is available on google,
thank you for your comment
Javier
jotauveele 3 years ago
Madre mia!!!
lelesado 3 years ago
...Y padre tambien...!
Javier.
jotauveele 3 years ago
Que barbaro! Los extintores descargando, incluso sobre algunos bolidos, y estos aun intentan seguir a toda velocidad. Es un milagro que no hubiera peores desastres en cada carrera.
O es que eran verdaderos pilotos?
manferot 3 years ago
Sólo falta añadir que no hubo heridos de ningún tipo...de milagro, claro.
FU1800 3 years ago
Correcto, pues añadimos el inexplicable y milagroso dato.
Gracias por tu valiosa contribución.
jotauveele 3 years ago
@jotauveele YO (de comentarista): ¿alguien sabe donde esta el DIRECTOR DE CARRERAS cuando se le necesita?
ma55aracin9 6 months ago