Its really confusing to see different people opting for different ways of zikr ..... some do it so loudly like this.... some do it by nose.... some sit and ponder ...some do it in naat style..... some do it with music ....etc
so how is a person supposed to understand what it truly means and how should it be done...... bcz right now,with no disrespect,its just body movement to me ......
i'm only reminding to myself, do have patience and never claim ourselves the most knowledgable in deen, take heed from the story of musa (as) and khidir (as), insyaAllah.
either sufi or salafi, or any other sect, we all hold a small portion of truth in our believes until we announced more knowledgable, and speaking that we know not, and then is when we leave from the ilham and protection of Allah.
anyway, eid mubarak brothers, and sorry for any mistakes i made.
in regards to the process of inner purification there are many different ways and methods. some work for some others work for others. to say there's bidat in this process like say for example licencing dhikrs is extremely foolish because a madrassa is a bid'at and the learning processes we have now was not around during the time of the prophet(saw). a madrassa is a tool for learning ilm and different methods are merely tools for attaining the closeness to Allah.
ibn taymiyya did not label tasawuf to be bid'ah and neither did ibn abdul wahhab. they just merely stated certain things that sufis do. calling tasawuf bid';ah is pure deviation. any such person claiming to be a shaykh saying such a thing should be put in prison for trying to incite deviation amongst the muslims. tasawuf does not include making zikr in groups or visitng graves. tasawuf is alot of different things. but the main one being inner purification.
a hadith says that the world will end when the last person saying la ilaha il allah dies. So zikr makes the world go around. any criticism of dhikr at all shows a lack of consciousness a hardened heart and a block down the lane from munafiqoun ally. anybody can go out for jihad. only the sincere ones can make dhikr because when you make alot of dhikr with the wrong intention your heart will begin to burn you can even take off your shirt and see the redness
People who focus more on the fear of Allah rather than love and hope have a problem with a zikr gathering. only someone who loves Allah sincerely can attend a dhikr gathering.
@yusufulhas It was recorded that Abu Musa Al-Ash'aari said, Rasoolulullaah said of the people who raised their voices in suuplication, "Oh people, take it easy on yourselves, you are not calling on one who is deaf or absent, rather the One you are calling is All-Hearing and Near. (mutafaqun 'alaih). Surah alA'raaf ayat 56: ...and call upon Him in fear and hope.Similarly asSajadah ayat 16. Ayat 205: And remember you Lord by yourselves humbly and with fear and without loudness of words ......
excellent. what's the grade of this hadith. and also what i would like to ask you is why are you taking this weak evidence and holding it against the clear evidence? the hadith i mentioned is clear it's also sahih. apparently you don't realize that you're talking to someone that knows that there's thousands of ways to spin things your way and to your opinion
@yusufulhas Are you saying Imam Ahmad explained (4:159) to mean that what those people in the video are doing is permissible? Did he mean groups of people reciting zikr until they lose their senses and said "other than Allaah, other than Allaah, (illallaah! illaallaah!) Is there any other Ilaah than Allaah? Who explain that hadith to you?
I received this hadith from a fatwa from a scholar on hadith who received his knowledge of hadith through the unbroken chain or sanad. i didn't read through the books and say that this suits my agenda and then look for the opinion of a scholar that suits your agenda. lmao
@yusufulhas Verily for you all, in Rasoolullaah is an excellent example, Al-Ahzaab ayat 21. He asked the sahaba to take it easy. Thats one dalil. The sahaba are our best examples cos, they were directly trained by the Prophet. The Mother of the faithful said, Rasoolullaah said inventions are rejected. Thats another dalil. Surah AsSajadah ayat 16 is another dalil. Are all these not clear enough?
no i'm sorry ubnusardi. none of things are clear. there general and the hadith about dhiklr in groups is clear. i will continue to make dhikr in groups because it is not a bid'ah nor is it haraam due to the validity of it from various sahih hadith. until then i advise you to refrain from calling things haraam due to the conquest of the lower self over the heart. because it's like calling haraam halal.
@yusufulhas I'm sorry for you too. I showed you clear aayaat from alQur'an, ahadeeth from the Prophet narrated by his wife, so clear they do not need any interpretation. And you still deny and reject them? Take heed, Surah An-Naml ayat 83 & 84: 'And the Day when We shall gather out of every nation a group of those who denied our aayaat and they shall be driven. Till when they come, He will say, 'Did you deny My aayaat whereas your knowledge can't comprehend them? Or what have you been doing?
your brain is the size of an ant. if i had a say so i would chop your head open remove the useless mulch inside and use it as horse feed. you worthless piece of garbage.
the muhadithen have interpreted this to mean groups of people reciting dhikr. the laymen interpret this to mean halqas of ilm and or preaching. The laymen with kibr finds loud dhikr to be attrocious bid'ah that wasn't done by the sahaba interprets the hadith by himself and starts calling people all types of filthy names and associations. the associations become wider once the reality of the situation settles in but this is only backed up by more false interpretations of hadith
I believe what bro ibnusardi's trying to say is that of sufism tariqah , for sufism (or some branch of it) had the problem of wihdatul wujud etc. And to me that is straying. On the other hand, dzikr is a great form of ibadah. Loud (group) dzikr were practiced after solah in Rasulullah saw time, and majlis dzikr were approved by him.
I believe we're all on the same page here, that dzikr is ok as long as it's done right. Let's not get all nasty shall we?
i've heard nothing but talk against wahdatul wujud from the sufis. I don't know which sufis you read or heard about talking about wahdatul wujud.
This guy is a salafi dirt bag labeling a practice approved by rasulullah(saw) to be haraam. They must think that they the qur'an is wrapped up in there hearts or something. totally misguided.
@yusufulhas Who are your muhaditheen? AlBukhari?, Muslim?, Abu Daud? who?? An Awwaah is a person who frequently sighs or moans. This is quite common, we hear people sighing while they are in deep remembrance of Allaah or reading alQuran. But they are alone by themselves, not head-banging in cult activities as we see in the video. The Prophet acknowledge that such condition is praiseworthy. And we do not find any records of the companions practising this. Pls find other scholars for ur hadith.
a cult activity is a place where they indotrinate and brainwash you. like the salafi thing. There's no brainwashing or indoctrination whatsoever in any sufi order. you have to wash your own brain. salafis tell you how to think. somebody can start frequenting a salafi masjid and become salafi. not so with a place where sufis congregate. this is a cult
@yusufulhas In Arabic language, Salaf means 'Predecesssors' And our predecessors are the sahaba, who were indoctrinated by the Prophet in person. Allaah is pleased with them and they were pleased with Allaah (alBayyinah ayat 8). They were the best of ummah (Aali 'Imraan ayat 110), Among the muhajireen and Ansaar and those who followed them (at-Taubah ayat 100). For your own sake, forget the sufi cults, go learn the Arabic language so that you could understand Islam better.
salafi is a cult. sufis do not brainwash people. salafis do. salafis use fear tactics propaganda all sorts of things. Salafi has the entire makeup and outfit of a cult. Seperation name calling etc. i know what salafi is i've been around them. it's a deviant kibraani cult created to stir confusion amongst the muslims
and stop calling yourself salaf. you're not predescessors and the predesessors did not think or behave like you. They were spiritual. they couldn't hear or perceive of anything in their salat. you could even shoot arrows at them and they wouldn't feel it. they transitioned to soul completely. that's why they ate leaves and could go out for jihad.
The sufis were around during the time of the prophet(saw). ali was the head amongst the sufis. they were called the ahlul suffat because they were poor and they wore wool. This is who the spiritual knowledge was transmitted to. Rasulullah(saw) told abu huraira(one of the sufis) that i have given you 2 parts of knowledge and if you were to reveal the other half i would have to kill you. these 2 parts are the exoteric and esoteric knowledge. sufis won't tell you what they know
stop critisizing dhikr. if you were here i would punch you in your chest. some sahaba made 300,000 dhikrs a day. you're not sahaba or salaf. stop perpetratin. I'm a real mu'min. i've seen and experienced things that would shake your soul. you're not from my community. i would beat you for perpetratin.
zikr fasting salah all of these things are mystical. your claim that islam is not mystical only shows foolishness and lack of knowledge. only mystics fast
have u heard the hadith about dhul kurwaisa? a man came up to the prophet(saw)(from najd) and told him fear Allah. umar(ra) requested that he cut off his head. He is the most prominent from the "salaf us salih"
@yusufulhas and @ibnusardi masyaAllah, may Allah have mercy on both of my brothers. there's never a doubt in practising dzikr in islam whether loud or isolated, so please don't condemn one of the best ibadah for soul purification. do be honest, and check with the quran and hadith.
brother yusufulhas had already denounced any form of wahdatul wujud and bidaat, so have patience with his ibadah and opinion. on the other hand, bro yusufulhas, dont call others kufr or it might come back to you.
The people who understand islam the best are the wise. not the people who speak arabic. or the people with long beards. Allah and his messenger has defined closeness to Allah as doing ibadat making zikr reading extra salah and the salafi cult has defined at as memorizing hadith memorizing qur'an learning arabic and going out for jihad. without the zikr of Allah you have no backbone in your deen and your heart is hardened. la zikr=kibr. right around the corner buddy
a hadith says to make zikr until people call you mad. it's ok to have your own understanding. even sahaba did. but when the person with knowledge rasulullah(saw) corrected them they accepted it. i do not have any knowledge. i am just giving you what the scholars told me. rasulullah(saw) said that a person of knowledge is equivalent to me and the lowest amongst you. so you have no right to have conjectures or give opinions.
i'm far more literate than you can ever imagine son. you aren't literate at all because you do not understand multiple much less higher meanings. in fact you would refer to higher meanings as deviation. this fact shows that salafi is an ignorant and uneducated movement that seeks to condemn parts of the brain
i notice that salafis usually come from the uneducated masses amongst the muslims. and sufis usually come from the highly literate masses. i also notice the backgrounds of the people who embrace the different ways. sufis usually moral upstanding men in the community da'ees. salafi uneducated people works with hands long criminal history.
i'll tell you what seein Allah is my dear child. Seeing Allah means seeing his knowledge. Allah says in the qur'an "if you wish to see me then see my creation" ihsan is the station of the soul. where the body is stripped down and the soul becomes more prominent. Everything has a hidden inner meaning. like the body has a soul. likewise the mind has the heart. The heart is the secret of the mind. The heart can be used to understand the secret meanings for those with the spiritual aptitude
the sufi tariqas come from abu bakr and ali(ra) the chains are still in tact. i myself do not belong to one so i'm merely an admirerer. during prophet muhammad(saw) funeral khidr showed up and only abu bakr and ali(ra) recognized him. why? because they knew khidr. when you see sufis talk about khidr then just refer back to the funeral. Khidr is a known and contacted figure within tasawuf. tasawuf is the process of ihsan transitioning from body to soul
@yusufulhas Good for you, being merely an admirer.... easier to leave'em and come baqck to the truth. Oh! There you again! If Khidhir is really what the sufis say he is, then he should be with the Prophet fighting alongside him in his ghazwah, not appearing only upon his death, don't you think so?
no actually it's not because i've gotten farther down in tasawuf then most sufis. khidr is real and can be talked too. some scholars difer about his death. but the difference comes from being sufi and not being sufi mostly i believe. Some scholars say that the man who will be riped in half by dajjal will be khidr.
@yusufulhas anybody can create stories about khidir... but how can we be sure? tha fact is... if khidir is alive, he should have bai'at the prophet as the sahaba had done. & he should have helped the prophet when the people of Taif pelted him with stones and when the musyrikeen broke his tooth at Uhud. Where is your Khidir during the Battle of Badar, when 300+ Muslims had to face thousands of Musyrikeen? When the prophet cried under the tree at night and asked Allaah for help?
the highest level of tasawuf is where a man has shifted his will to the will of Allah. as explained by abdul qadir gilani(btw ibn taymiya belonged to a silsila going back to abdul qadir gilani). this is known in sufi terms as baqo'. i invite you to enter the realm of realities. Where u can see Allah if you have the aptittude. the hadith says if you cannot see allah then know that Allah sees you. so i'm not talking any deviance brother. this is reality. i see Allah brother and i can tell you how
@yusufulhas Surah Aali 'Imraan ayat 31: Say (Muhammad) 'if you love Allaah, follow me. Allaah will love you.... Surah alHashr: Whatever Rasool gives you, take it. whatever he forbids you, abstain. Irbadh bin Saariyah r.a. said, (from a lengthy naration), Rasoolullaah had said, "...beware of new inventions in the religion... (Sunan Abu Daud, Tirmizi, Ibnu Maja, Hakim etc). A'isya had said, 'Rasoolullaah had said, whoever introduces a ritual that is not from us, it is rejected. (mutafaqun 'alaih)
The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: That I sit in the company of the people who remember Allah the Exalted from morning prayer till the sun rises is clearer to me than that I emancipate four slaves from the children of Isra'il, and that I sit with the people who remember Allah from afternoon prayer till the sun sets is dearer to me than that I emancipate four slaves.
islam terbagi beberapa golongan,bahkan baginda rasulpun telah mengatakannya,yang anda lihat ialah dzikir Tarikat,jika anda muslim jangan sekali2 berani mengatakan salah atau melenceng dari ajaran islam,cari tau dulu baru anda bisa menilai.karna jika anda menyalahkan tanpa ada sebab(pengetahuan anda terbatas)anda sendiri yang merugi.
@syaifulrachman22 Jalan Allah hanya satu, yg selainnya akan menjauhkannya dari jalanNya (sirathal mustaqim). وَأَنَّ هَذَا صِرَاطِيْ مُسْتَقِيماً فَاتَّبِعُوهُ وَلاَ تَتَبِعُوا السُّبُلَ فَتَفَرَّقَ بِكُمْ عَنْ سَبِيْلِهِ [الأنعام: 153]. Dari hadith Ibnu Mas'ud: Rasulullaah membuat satu garisan lalu berkata, ini jln Allaah yg lurus. Lalu beliau membuat beberapa garis & berkata, ini jalan2 yg pada setiapnya ada syaitan yg mengajak kpdnya. & beliau membaca ayat di atas. HR Ahmad dll.
@ibnuhussin83 Murabbi kita sepatutnyaa adalah Rasoolullah. Abu Hurairah ada berkata, 'Rasoolullaah telah bersabda, 'Adapun aku bagi kamu berkedudukan seperti Si Bapa, aku mengajarkan kamu.(Hadith Hasan riwayat Aby Daud). Nabi mengajar para sahabat yg mengajarkan kpd Tabi'een yg mengajar kpd Tabi' Tabi'een yg mengajar kepada para ulama yg mengikuti mereka. Lalu kita belajar dari guru2 yg mensyarahkan kitab2 mereka. Ini boleh diperiksa dgn pasti. Tapi, zikir tarikat ni tidak pasti asal-usulnya.
@ibnuhussin83 Saya petik sikit dari kitab tarikat Naqsyabandiy: Hadhrat Shah Naqshband Rahmatullah
‘alaih telah berkata: Pada suatu hari aku dan sahabatku sedang bermuraqabah, lalu pintu langit terbuka dan gambaran Musyahadah hadir kepadaku lalu aku mendengar satu suara berkata... Siapa dapat memastikan kebenaran cerita ini? Ada pengasas Tarikat lain pula mendakwa mendapat wirid dari Rasoolullaah secara sedar dari kubur baginda! Dan org2 percaya tanpa diperiksa kesahihannya?
Whwn you look at the head bangers at heavy metal rock concerts, the jews when they are reading their torah, the sufis, the taoists, the syiahs indulging in their rituals, the firewalkers of thaipusam, etc, they're all in the same state of mind. Is this what the Prophet s.a.w. taught his companions r.anhum? Are there any authentic narrations that they practised this?
yes the are plenty of narrations on group and loud dhikr. your claims are invalid because most religions have the salat. islam is the ORIGINAL religion.
"Those that remember Me in a gathering," makes gatherings of collective, loud dhikr the gateway to realising Allah's promise "Remember Me, and I shall remember you." It is no wonder that such gatherings receive the highest praise and blessing from Allah and His Prophet, Peace be upon him, according to many excellent and authentic hadiths.
The Prophet praised a man who was awwah -- literally: one who says ah, ah! -- that is: loud in his dhikr, even when others censured him. Ahmad narrated with a good chain in his Musnad (4:159) from `Uqba ibn `Amir: "The Prophet said of a man named Dhu al-bijadayn: innahu awwah, He is a man who says ah a lot. This is because he was a man abundant in his dhikr of Allah in Qur'an-recitation, and he would raise his voice high when supplicating."
To whom of tariqah practisioner... my advise is...don't bother to whoever saying its bidaah or what ever they want to call it... since they didn't feel it... and pity them actually...
yup... there are so many tariqah in Malaysia... 'Aliyyah, samanniyah, Qadiriyah, Naqsyabandiyah Aliyyah, Naqsyabandiyah Qadiriyag, and so forth... I'm one of the follower one of the tariqah ...
@agridakitekbirselefi malesef sende o 73lerin icindesin bunlar cunku allahi zikrediyorlar senin beynin basmas bunlarin neyptiklarina ey iman edenler llahi cokca zikredin ayetini uyguluyolar baska bir ayetti ey kulum beni zikretki bende seni zikredeyim obur ayette kalpler ancak allahi zikretmeyle tatmin olur baska bir ayette bizi tanimiyor bilmiyorsaniz onlara yani zikir ehlilerine sorun ewet bu yeterli delildir
@agridakitekbirselefi malesef sende o 73lerin icindesin bunlar cunku allahi zikrediyorlar senin beynin basmas bunlarin neyptiklarina ey iman edenler llahi cokca zikredin ayetini uyguluyolar baska bir ayetti ey kulum beni zikretki bende seni zikredeyim obur ayette kalpler ancak allahi zikretmeyle tatmin olur
pandanglah aku aku lah dia..............b4 kenal allah kenal diri,nak kenal diri hati kena bersih....nie sebahagian dr jalannya.....utk mencari jalan pulang.....
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Its really confusing to see different people opting for different ways of zikr ..... some do it so loudly like this.... some do it by nose.... some sit and ponder ...some do it in naat style..... some do it with music ....etc
so how is a person supposed to understand what it truly means and how should it be done...... bcz right now,with no disrespect,its just body movement to me ......
tayyab442 2 months ago
stop with your logic. logic isn't factual
yusufulhas 3 months ago
:)
ibnuhussin83 3 months ago
i'm only reminding to myself, do have patience and never claim ourselves the most knowledgable in deen, take heed from the story of musa (as) and khidir (as), insyaAllah.
either sufi or salafi, or any other sect, we all hold a small portion of truth in our believes until we announced more knowledgable, and speaking that we know not, and then is when we leave from the ilham and protection of Allah.
anyway, eid mubarak brothers, and sorry for any mistakes i made.
wassalam.
janganketawa 3 months ago
in regards to the process of inner purification there are many different ways and methods. some work for some others work for others. to say there's bidat in this process like say for example licencing dhikrs is extremely foolish because a madrassa is a bid'at and the learning processes we have now was not around during the time of the prophet(saw). a madrassa is a tool for learning ilm and different methods are merely tools for attaining the closeness to Allah.
yusufulhas 3 months ago
ibn taymiyya did not label tasawuf to be bid'ah and neither did ibn abdul wahhab. they just merely stated certain things that sufis do. calling tasawuf bid';ah is pure deviation. any such person claiming to be a shaykh saying such a thing should be put in prison for trying to incite deviation amongst the muslims. tasawuf does not include making zikr in groups or visitng graves. tasawuf is alot of different things. but the main one being inner purification.
yusufulhas 3 months ago
a hadith says that the world will end when the last person saying la ilaha il allah dies. So zikr makes the world go around. any criticism of dhikr at all shows a lack of consciousness a hardened heart and a block down the lane from munafiqoun ally. anybody can go out for jihad. only the sincere ones can make dhikr because when you make alot of dhikr with the wrong intention your heart will begin to burn you can even take off your shirt and see the redness
yusufulhas 3 months ago
People who focus more on the fear of Allah rather than love and hope have a problem with a zikr gathering. only someone who loves Allah sincerely can attend a dhikr gathering.
yusufulhas 4 months ago in playlist zikr
@yusufulhas It was recorded that Abu Musa Al-Ash'aari said, Rasoolulullaah said of the people who raised their voices in suuplication, "Oh people, take it easy on yourselves, you are not calling on one who is deaf or absent, rather the One you are calling is All-Hearing and Near. (mutafaqun 'alaih). Surah alA'raaf ayat 56: ...and call upon Him in fear and hope.Similarly asSajadah ayat 16. Ayat 205: And remember you Lord by yourselves humbly and with fear and without loudness of words ......
ibnusardi 4 months ago
@ibnusardi
excellent. what's the grade of this hadith. and also what i would like to ask you is why are you taking this weak evidence and holding it against the clear evidence? the hadith i mentioned is clear it's also sahih. apparently you don't realize that you're talking to someone that knows that there's thousands of ways to spin things your way and to your opinion
yusufulhas 4 months ago
@yusufulhas Are you saying Imam Ahmad explained (4:159) to mean that what those people in the video are doing is permissible? Did he mean groups of people reciting zikr until they lose their senses and said "other than Allaah, other than Allaah, (illallaah! illaallaah!) Is there any other Ilaah than Allaah? Who explain that hadith to you?
ibnusardi 4 months ago
@ibnusardi
I received this hadith from a fatwa from a scholar on hadith who received his knowledge of hadith through the unbroken chain or sanad. i didn't read through the books and say that this suits my agenda and then look for the opinion of a scholar that suits your agenda. lmao
yusufulhas 4 months ago
@ibnusardi
WHERE IS YOUR CLEAR DALEEL THAT LOUD GROUP ZIKR IS BID'AH OR HARAAM!? answer me you munafiq
yusufulhas 4 months ago
@yusufulhas Verily for you all, in Rasoolullaah is an excellent example, Al-Ahzaab ayat 21. He asked the sahaba to take it easy. Thats one dalil. The sahaba are our best examples cos, they were directly trained by the Prophet. The Mother of the faithful said, Rasoolullaah said inventions are rejected. Thats another dalil. Surah AsSajadah ayat 16 is another dalil. Are all these not clear enough?
ibnusardi 4 months ago
@ibnusardi
no i'm sorry ubnusardi. none of things are clear. there general and the hadith about dhiklr in groups is clear. i will continue to make dhikr in groups because it is not a bid'ah nor is it haraam due to the validity of it from various sahih hadith. until then i advise you to refrain from calling things haraam due to the conquest of the lower self over the heart. because it's like calling haraam halal.
yusufulhas 4 months ago
@yusufulhas I'm sorry for you too. I showed you clear aayaat from alQur'an, ahadeeth from the Prophet narrated by his wife, so clear they do not need any interpretation. And you still deny and reject them? Take heed, Surah An-Naml ayat 83 & 84: 'And the Day when We shall gather out of every nation a group of those who denied our aayaat and they shall be driven. Till when they come, He will say, 'Did you deny My aayaat whereas your knowledge can't comprehend them? Or what have you been doing?
ibnusardi 3 months ago
@ibnusardi
shuttup stupid.
yusufulhas 3 months ago
your brain is the size of an ant. if i had a say so i would chop your head open remove the useless mulch inside and use it as horse feed. you worthless piece of garbage.
yusufulhas 3 months ago
the muhadithen have interpreted this to mean groups of people reciting dhikr. the laymen interpret this to mean halqas of ilm and or preaching. The laymen with kibr finds loud dhikr to be attrocious bid'ah that wasn't done by the sahaba interprets the hadith by himself and starts calling people all types of filthy names and associations. the associations become wider once the reality of the situation settles in but this is only backed up by more false interpretations of hadith
yusufulhas 4 months ago
@yusufulhas what's the need to call names?
I believe what bro ibnusardi's trying to say is that of sufism tariqah , for sufism (or some branch of it) had the problem of wihdatul wujud etc. And to me that is straying. On the other hand, dzikr is a great form of ibadah. Loud (group) dzikr were practiced after solah in Rasulullah saw time, and majlis dzikr were approved by him.
I believe we're all on the same page here, that dzikr is ok as long as it's done right. Let's not get all nasty shall we?
janganketawa 4 months ago
@janganketawa
i've heard nothing but talk against wahdatul wujud from the sufis. I don't know which sufis you read or heard about talking about wahdatul wujud.
This guy is a salafi dirt bag labeling a practice approved by rasulullah(saw) to be haraam. They must think that they the qur'an is wrapped up in there hearts or something. totally misguided.
yusufulhas 4 months ago
@yusufulhas Who are your muhaditheen? AlBukhari?, Muslim?, Abu Daud? who?? An Awwaah is a person who frequently sighs or moans. This is quite common, we hear people sighing while they are in deep remembrance of Allaah or reading alQuran. But they are alone by themselves, not head-banging in cult activities as we see in the video. The Prophet acknowledge that such condition is praiseworthy. And we do not find any records of the companions practising this. Pls find other scholars for ur hadith.
ibnusardi 4 months ago
@ibnusardi
a cult activity is a place where they indotrinate and brainwash you. like the salafi thing. There's no brainwashing or indoctrination whatsoever in any sufi order. you have to wash your own brain. salafis tell you how to think. somebody can start frequenting a salafi masjid and become salafi. not so with a place where sufis congregate. this is a cult
yusufulhas 4 months ago
@yusufulhas In Arabic language, Salaf means 'Predecesssors' And our predecessors are the sahaba, who were indoctrinated by the Prophet in person. Allaah is pleased with them and they were pleased with Allaah (alBayyinah ayat 8). They were the best of ummah (Aali 'Imraan ayat 110), Among the muhajireen and Ansaar and those who followed them (at-Taubah ayat 100). For your own sake, forget the sufi cults, go learn the Arabic language so that you could understand Islam better.
ibnusardi 3 months ago
@ibnusardi
oh i am learning the arabic language sir. i'm studying nahw. thanks for the advise though ;)
have you ever heard of the word talaf. that's what you are. or maybe falaf. the falafi movement. yes that's excellent.
some people call themselves muslim and they're far from it. get lost chump
yusufulhas 3 months ago
salafi is a cult. sufis do not brainwash people. salafis do. salafis use fear tactics propaganda all sorts of things. Salafi has the entire makeup and outfit of a cult. Seperation name calling etc. i know what salafi is i've been around them. it's a deviant kibraani cult created to stir confusion amongst the muslims
yusufulhas 3 months ago
@yusufulhas Oh yes, salafis use fear tactics from Allaah, e.g. Surah Al-Baqarah Ayat 281, "And fear the day when you shall be returned to Allaah..."
ibnusardi 3 months ago
@ibnusardi
don't try to say Allah nothing. you're saying fear Allah and obey me. just a slip of the tongue
yusufulhas 3 months ago
and stop calling yourself salaf. you're not predescessors and the predesessors did not think or behave like you. They were spiritual. they couldn't hear or perceive of anything in their salat. you could even shoot arrows at them and they wouldn't feel it. they transitioned to soul completely. that's why they ate leaves and could go out for jihad.
yusufulhas 3 months ago
@ibnusardi
The sufis were around during the time of the prophet(saw). ali was the head amongst the sufis. they were called the ahlul suffat because they were poor and they wore wool. This is who the spiritual knowledge was transmitted to. Rasulullah(saw) told abu huraira(one of the sufis) that i have given you 2 parts of knowledge and if you were to reveal the other half i would have to kill you. these 2 parts are the exoteric and esoteric knowledge. sufis won't tell you what they know
yusufulhas 3 months ago
@ibnusardi
stop critisizing dhikr. if you were here i would punch you in your chest. some sahaba made 300,000 dhikrs a day. you're not sahaba or salaf. stop perpetratin. I'm a real mu'min. i've seen and experienced things that would shake your soul. you're not from my community. i would beat you for perpetratin.
yusufulhas 3 months ago
@ibnusardi
zikr fasting salah all of these things are mystical. your claim that islam is not mystical only shows foolishness and lack of knowledge. only mystics fast
yusufulhas 3 months ago
@ibnusardi
have u heard the hadith about dhul kurwaisa? a man came up to the prophet(saw)(from najd) and told him fear Allah. umar(ra) requested that he cut off his head. He is the most prominent from the "salaf us salih"
yusufulhas 3 months ago
@yusufulhas and @ibnusardi masyaAllah, may Allah have mercy on both of my brothers. there's never a doubt in practising dzikr in islam whether loud or isolated, so please don't condemn one of the best ibadah for soul purification. do be honest, and check with the quran and hadith.
brother yusufulhas had already denounced any form of wahdatul wujud and bidaat, so have patience with his ibadah and opinion. on the other hand, bro yusufulhas, dont call others kufr or it might come back to you.
janganketawa 3 months ago
@janganketawa
jazakallahu khair brother.
yusufulhas 3 months ago
and btw i'm not into loud zikr. i'm just arguing with him because he's opposing the truth.
yusufulhas 3 months ago
@ibnusardi
The people who understand islam the best are the wise. not the people who speak arabic. or the people with long beards. Allah and his messenger has defined closeness to Allah as doing ibadat making zikr reading extra salah and the salafi cult has defined at as memorizing hadith memorizing qur'an learning arabic and going out for jihad. without the zikr of Allah you have no backbone in your deen and your heart is hardened. la zikr=kibr. right around the corner buddy
yusufulhas 3 months ago
@ibnusardi
a hadith says to make zikr until people call you mad. it's ok to have your own understanding. even sahaba did. but when the person with knowledge rasulullah(saw) corrected them they accepted it. i do not have any knowledge. i am just giving you what the scholars told me. rasulullah(saw) said that a person of knowledge is equivalent to me and the lowest amongst you. so you have no right to have conjectures or give opinions.
yusufulhas 4 months ago
@ibnusardi
Apparently you do not know how literate i am in propaganda brainwashing and various other shaitanic rubbish.
yusufulhas 3 months ago
@yusufulhas You're deluded man! I don't make such claims. Call yourself 'literate' when you can't understand simple translation of ayats and hadith?
ibnusardi 3 months ago
@ibnusardi
i'm far more literate than you can ever imagine son. you aren't literate at all because you do not understand multiple much less higher meanings. in fact you would refer to higher meanings as deviation. this fact shows that salafi is an ignorant and uneducated movement that seeks to condemn parts of the brain
yusufulhas 3 months ago
hey dumbass. what's meant by the term seeing Allah as expressed in the hadith of jibrael?
yusufulhas 3 months ago
@ibnusardi
i notice that salafis usually come from the uneducated masses amongst the muslims. and sufis usually come from the highly literate masses. i also notice the backgrounds of the people who embrace the different ways. sufis usually moral upstanding men in the community da'ees. salafi uneducated people works with hands long criminal history.
yusufulhas 3 months ago
i'll tell you what seein Allah is my dear child. Seeing Allah means seeing his knowledge. Allah says in the qur'an "if you wish to see me then see my creation" ihsan is the station of the soul. where the body is stripped down and the soul becomes more prominent. Everything has a hidden inner meaning. like the body has a soul. likewise the mind has the heart. The heart is the secret of the mind. The heart can be used to understand the secret meanings for those with the spiritual aptitude
yusufulhas 3 months ago
@ibnusardi
the sufi tariqas come from abu bakr and ali(ra) the chains are still in tact. i myself do not belong to one so i'm merely an admirerer. during prophet muhammad(saw) funeral khidr showed up and only abu bakr and ali(ra) recognized him. why? because they knew khidr. when you see sufis talk about khidr then just refer back to the funeral. Khidr is a known and contacted figure within tasawuf. tasawuf is the process of ihsan transitioning from body to soul
yusufulhas 3 months ago
@yusufulhas Good for you, being merely an admirer.... easier to leave'em and come baqck to the truth. Oh! There you again! If Khidhir is really what the sufis say he is, then he should be with the Prophet fighting alongside him in his ghazwah, not appearing only upon his death, don't you think so?
ibnusardi 3 months ago
@ibnusardi
no actually it's not because i've gotten farther down in tasawuf then most sufis. khidr is real and can be talked too. some scholars difer about his death. but the difference comes from being sufi and not being sufi mostly i believe. Some scholars say that the man who will be riped in half by dajjal will be khidr.
yusufulhas 3 months ago
@yusufulhas anybody can create stories about khidir... but how can we be sure? tha fact is... if khidir is alive, he should have bai'at the prophet as the sahaba had done. & he should have helped the prophet when the people of Taif pelted him with stones and when the musyrikeen broke his tooth at Uhud. Where is your Khidir during the Battle of Badar, when 300+ Muslims had to face thousands of Musyrikeen? When the prophet cried under the tree at night and asked Allaah for help?
ibnusardi 3 months ago
@ibnusardi
did u not know that khidr attended rasulullah(saw)'s funeral?
yusufulhas 3 months ago
@ibnusardi
Khidr had regular dealings with the prophet(saw). the prophet(saw) met and talked with all kinds of delegations and things.
yusufulhas 3 months ago
the highest level of tasawuf is where a man has shifted his will to the will of Allah. as explained by abdul qadir gilani(btw ibn taymiya belonged to a silsila going back to abdul qadir gilani). this is known in sufi terms as baqo'. i invite you to enter the realm of realities. Where u can see Allah if you have the aptittude. the hadith says if you cannot see allah then know that Allah sees you. so i'm not talking any deviance brother. this is reality. i see Allah brother and i can tell you how
yusufulhas 3 months ago
@yusufulhas Surah Aali 'Imraan ayat 31: Say (Muhammad) 'if you love Allaah, follow me. Allaah will love you.... Surah alHashr: Whatever Rasool gives you, take it. whatever he forbids you, abstain. Irbadh bin Saariyah r.a. said, (from a lengthy naration), Rasoolullaah had said, "...beware of new inventions in the religion... (Sunan Abu Daud, Tirmizi, Ibnu Maja, Hakim etc). A'isya had said, 'Rasoolullaah had said, whoever introduces a ritual that is not from us, it is rejected. (mutafaqun 'alaih)
ibnusardi 4 months ago
@ibnusardi
are you authorized to give tafsir of hadith?
yusufulhas 4 months ago
The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: That I sit in the company of the people who remember Allah the Exalted from morning prayer till the sun rises is clearer to me than that I emancipate four slaves from the children of Isra'il, and that I sit with the people who remember Allah from afternoon prayer till the sun sets is dearer to me than that I emancipate four slaves.
yusufulhas 4 months ago in playlist zikr
Subhanallah..................
islam terbagi beberapa golongan,bahkan baginda rasulpun telah mengatakannya,yang anda lihat ialah dzikir Tarikat,jika anda muslim jangan sekali2 berani mengatakan salah atau melenceng dari ajaran islam,cari tau dulu baru anda bisa menilai.karna jika anda menyalahkan tanpa ada sebab(pengetahuan anda terbatas)anda sendiri yang merugi.
syaifulrachman22 5 months ago
@syaifulrachman22 Jalan Allah hanya satu, yg selainnya akan menjauhkannya dari jalanNya (sirathal mustaqim). وَأَنَّ هَذَا صِرَاطِيْ مُسْتَقِيماً فَاتَّبِعُوهُ وَلاَ تَتَبِعُوا السُّبُلَ فَتَفَرَّقَ بِكُمْ عَنْ سَبِيْلِهِ [الأنعام: 153]. Dari hadith Ibnu Mas'ud: Rasulullaah membuat satu garisan lalu berkata, ini jln Allaah yg lurus. Lalu beliau membuat beberapa garis & berkata, ini jalan2 yg pada setiapnya ada syaitan yg mengajak kpdnya. & beliau membaca ayat di atas. HR Ahmad dll.
ibnusardi 4 months ago
Yang marah orang yang mengata orang berzikir sesat pun sama. Halaqah zikir pun jarang pergi. Murabbi pun tak kenal.
ibnuhussin83 5 months ago
@ibnuhussin83 Murabbi kita sepatutnyaa adalah Rasoolullah. Abu Hurairah ada berkata, 'Rasoolullaah telah bersabda, 'Adapun aku bagi kamu berkedudukan seperti Si Bapa, aku mengajarkan kamu.(Hadith Hasan riwayat Aby Daud). Nabi mengajar para sahabat yg mengajarkan kpd Tabi'een yg mengajar kpd Tabi' Tabi'een yg mengajar kepada para ulama yg mengikuti mereka. Lalu kita belajar dari guru2 yg mensyarahkan kitab2 mereka. Ini boleh diperiksa dgn pasti. Tapi, zikir tarikat ni tidak pasti asal-usulnya.
ibnusardi 4 months ago
@ibnuhussin83 Saya petik sikit dari kitab tarikat Naqsyabandiy: Hadhrat Shah Naqshband Rahmatullah
‘alaih telah berkata: Pada suatu hari aku dan sahabatku sedang bermuraqabah, lalu pintu langit terbuka dan gambaran Musyahadah hadir kepadaku lalu aku mendengar satu suara berkata... Siapa dapat memastikan kebenaran cerita ini? Ada pengasas Tarikat lain pula mendakwa mendapat wirid dari Rasoolullaah secara sedar dari kubur baginda! Dan org2 percaya tanpa diperiksa kesahihannya?
ibnusardi 4 months ago
Abaibesh mulut jangan celupah sangat. Nanti kena makan sireh baru tau.
doublerozz 7 months ago
Whwn you look at the head bangers at heavy metal rock concerts, the jews when they are reading their torah, the sufis, the taoists, the syiahs indulging in their rituals, the firewalkers of thaipusam, etc, they're all in the same state of mind. Is this what the Prophet s.a.w. taught his companions r.anhum? Are there any authentic narrations that they practised this?
ibnusardi 8 months ago
@ibnusardi
yes the are plenty of narrations on group and loud dhikr. your claims are invalid because most religions have the salat. islam is the ORIGINAL religion.
yusufulhas 4 months ago in playlist zikr
@ibnusardi
"Those that remember Me in a gathering," makes gatherings of collective, loud dhikr the gateway to realising Allah's promise "Remember Me, and I shall remember you." It is no wonder that such gatherings receive the highest praise and blessing from Allah and His Prophet, Peace be upon him, according to many excellent and authentic hadiths.
yusufulhas 4 months ago in playlist zikr
@ibnusardi
The Prophet praised a man who was awwah -- literally: one who says ah, ah! -- that is: loud in his dhikr, even when others censured him. Ahmad narrated with a good chain in his Musnad (4:159) from `Uqba ibn `Amir: "The Prophet said of a man named Dhu al-bijadayn: innahu awwah, He is a man who says ah a lot. This is because he was a man abundant in his dhikr of Allah in Qur'an-recitation, and he would raise his voice high when supplicating."
yusufulhas 4 months ago
To whom of tariqah practisioner... my advise is...don't bother to whoever saying its bidaah or what ever they want to call it... since they didn't feel it... and pity them actually...
zulkernain70 9 months ago
yup... there are so many tariqah in Malaysia... 'Aliyyah, samanniyah, Qadiriyah, Naqsyabandiyah Aliyyah, Naqsyabandiyah Qadiriyag, and so forth... I'm one of the follower one of the tariqah ...
zulkernain70 9 months ago
Ma sa ʾ Allah
arancibia1960 9 months ago
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abaibesh 10 months ago
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abaibesh 10 months ago
masyaAllah... insaflah wahai saudaraku...dekat kaabah pn dorg x zikir camni. ni ajaran sesat mane pulak
abaibesh 10 months ago
Allahu Akhbar, 1000x
lavastonexplore 8 months ago
@abaibesh kalu orang zikr , kamu kata sesat.. orang nyani , joget , sandiwara, lupa tuhan kamu redho.. itu tanda munafiq.. taubat!!
MHMDNAZEL 7 months ago
Allahu Akbar!
queenstarswinner 11 months ago
Innovation. Bidaah but only astray you from the right path.
UniformZim 1 year ago
Is sufism very present in Malaysia?
TheCreepyChuwnLi 1 year ago
MashaAllah.
Ayat: zikren kesira.
I'm from Turkey. Kadiryul Nadiri Tarikat. Esselamu Aleykum.
omrzdmr 1 year ago
MASHAALLAAAAH
Yusuf256 2 years ago
ne yazikki
ummetim 73 bolunecek biri haric digerleri atestedir
sahih hadis
agridakitekbirselefi 2 years ago
@agridakitekbirselefi malesef sende o 73lerin icindesin bunlar cunku allahi zikrediyorlar senin beynin basmas bunlarin neyptiklarina ey iman edenler llahi cokca zikredin ayetini uyguluyolar baska bir ayetti ey kulum beni zikretki bende seni zikredeyim obur ayette kalpler ancak allahi zikretmeyle tatmin olur baska bir ayette bizi tanimiyor bilmiyorsaniz onlara yani zikir ehlilerine sorun ewet bu yeterli delildir
mevlana123 1 year ago
@agridakitekbirselefi malesef sende o 73lerin icindesin bunlar cunku allahi zikrediyorlar senin beynin basmas bunlarin neyptiklarina ey iman edenler llahi cokca zikredin ayetini uyguluyolar baska bir ayetti ey kulum beni zikretki bende seni zikredeyim obur ayette kalpler ancak allahi zikretmeyle tatmin olur
mevlana123 1 year ago
masallah masallah!!
from your brother of turkey!!
Suat611 2 years ago
pandanglah aku aku lah dia..............b4 kenal allah kenal diri,nak kenal diri hati kena bersih....nie sebahagian dr jalannya.....utk mencari jalan pulang.....
KREKKOS 2 years ago
es semü aleyke مَوْت
mertcanksk 2 years ago
dimana ek kalau boleh tau. Masih tercari2.
mamarchilla 2 years ago
Allah!!..boleh ana tau tareqat mana?. Jazakallah
mamarchilla 2 years ago
tarekat ahmadiah qadiriyah....pimpinan syeikh mahmud..naper?
vespabirujahat 2 years ago
aman iman .keep it up.
jemaah07 3 years ago
hay hay hay allah hayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
esedullahii 3 years ago
sangat bagus!!! syabas kpd kancilcoklat kerana sudi upload video ni... harap diperbanyakkan lagi.
firasat81 3 years ago