This video is misleading, first "murderess" she stabbed Rosemary La Bianca after she was already dead, second "walk of shame" I see no shame in her walk, and at which point in the footage does she start begging for her freedom? I did not see it.You have a vivid imagination divorced from the facts of the case.
@ahemcoughaaargh Newsflash you moron. She stuck a knife in a woman 16 times. There is no sugarcoating that to make her appear innocent. So fuck off and "marry" some of the facts.
I find it distasteful when prisoners get parole rejections due to the infamy of the case whereas prisoners with similar convictions recieve earlier parole simply because their case is not a political hot potatoe. I believe the tenets equitas et equalitas.
@ HelterSkelterForum Have there been any other "journalists" who have taken up female murderers as a "cause" or publicly advocated for them? I know 1 TV news station caught Hell for the "Andrea Yates defence fund", then arrogantly "stood by their (female) reporter", but have there been more? Like Diane Sawyer re Leslie Van Houten in the 80s(?) If so, they need to be exposed and run off the air for the bleeding hearts they are. Thanks for youre postings.
@HelterSkelterForum she was clearly brainwashed by a narcissistic and delusional cult leader.... not too dissimilar to the whole flds fiasco not long ago. Set her free!!!!!!!!!
@cozener1 I'm sick for disagreeing that a women who stabbed an already dead women 16 times should spend the rest of her life in jail? Should she have done time for this? Yes! 42 years no! If it wasn't such a high profile case and her affiliation with Manson she would have been out along time ago. Manson, Krenwinkle, Watson, and Atkins all got what they deserved. So, get off your self righteous high horse. You dim witt
If Mrs. LaBianca was already dead it is because Van Houten made that happen. Van Houten says she held Mrs. LaBianca down for Krenwinkel to begin stabbing her. And why did Leslie hood Mrs. LaBianca and tether her by the neck? That handiwork of Van Houten's eliminated the lady's chance of fleeing, helping her husband, or succeeding in the fight for her life. And Van Houten stabs her 16 MORE times? --Eats her food, wears her clothes?
These Manson family members are just object lessons for the public.It's interesting to watch these videos and see these people aging and dying off.Surely it's sad all the way around,but I can't help but think that Charlie is the only one who actually won.Who,from the beginning of his little reign,actually got what he intended:drugs,sex with hot youngsters,blood,revenge on the system,notoriety and 3 hots and a cot.Being a spectator,it's none of my business what happens to any of the gang members.
do the crime! do the time! she was part of a murder gang, and did murder. she came from a priveledged background, didnt need to work, "daddy" provided. she will die in prison. and that is only right. i have four children and eight grandchildren, (two born in the last two weeks) van houten has only the memories of her murdering innocent people. i have just met, my wee grand daughter today, gave her a huge cuddle. brilliant. whos giving lesley a cuddle, some big dyke.
yes..leslie asked to go do the next killing. she would have gladly done more. she had the capacity in her to kill. she alughed and rellished in it with the others. i have seen tiny flickers of a near grin during speaking in her parole hearings. she still has incongruent emotion and expression to topics of murder. they were mentally wrong or could not have wanted to go kill. she is paying for the lives she helped take. LIFE SENTENCE.
Funny to see her like this, all through the trial manson and the girls snickered, laughed, treated it like it was a big joke, even at sentencing they were unrepentant, now years later they want out and say they've changed.
@dgl1962 i never knew jesus was lost so you cant find somthing that always there prisoners are con artists but really! do you think leslies a danger to society? no way.
steve grogan was paroled in the early 80s aka clem so why not leslie,if she doesnt deserve it after 40 years nobody should get it ,i ask you are you the same person you were at 18?and manson brainwashed them/her.
@jimpurdie i agree shortys head was intact but even bugliosi and steven kay said grogan wasnt retarded his brain was pickled with vodka/whiskey/and l.s.d. ,also they said he was much more of a danger to society than van houten.
@jimpurdie yes i am the same person . perhaps a little less reactive to events arround me. perhaps have had more experiences. but the fiber of my beliefs have not changed at all. I would say her beliefs and inner demons assisted her to do just what she did. if i had committed those crimes i wou;ld expect either the death sentence or a chance to spend my life in prison. a person should not need to change much from 18 yrs on if they were a good person to begin with.
The only thing she's sorry about is that she was caught and convicted.
spideraxis 6 days ago
@51m0n77 wtf are u talking a bout u idiot!!! yes set her free so she can leave with you , lets see if u can sleep at night! or have her babysitt!
florecita170689 2 months ago
This video is misleading, first "murderess" she stabbed Rosemary La Bianca after she was already dead, second "walk of shame" I see no shame in her walk, and at which point in the footage does she start begging for her freedom? I did not see it.You have a vivid imagination divorced from the facts of the case.
ahemcoughaaargh 3 months ago 5
@ahemcoughaaargh Newsflash you moron. She stuck a knife in a woman 16 times. There is no sugarcoating that to make her appear innocent. So fuck off and "marry" some of the facts.
HelterSkelterForum 3 months ago
@HelterSkelterForum Fuck off redneck, I've got the facts.
ahemcoughaaargh 3 months ago
@ahemcoughaaargh Wow me with your facts then you stupid fucking cunt
HelterSkelterForum 3 months ago
@ahemcoughaaargh that type of reply shows that you have issues...
phil4508 1 month ago
I find it distasteful when prisoners get parole rejections due to the infamy of the case whereas prisoners with similar convictions recieve earlier parole simply because their case is not a political hot potatoe. I believe the tenets equitas et equalitas.
j0nnyism 4 months ago
@ HelterSkelterForum Have there been any other "journalists" who have taken up female murderers as a "cause" or publicly advocated for them? I know 1 TV news station caught Hell for the "Andrea Yates defence fund", then arrogantly "stood by their (female) reporter", but have there been more? Like Diane Sawyer re Leslie Van Houten in the 80s(?) If so, they need to be exposed and run off the air for the bleeding hearts they are. Thanks for youre postings.
lugger2010 4 months ago
Should have been walking to a gas chamver. Evil personified!
cozener1 4 months ago
Political prisoner
thadbrains 5 months ago
@thadbrains Rosemary LaBianca's sixteen stab wounds Leslie inflicted tell a different story. She's a killer nothing political about her.
HelterSkelterForum 4 months ago
@HelterSkelterForum she was clearly brainwashed by a narcissistic and delusional cult leader.... not too dissimilar to the whole flds fiasco not long ago. Set her free!!!!!!!!!
51m0n77 4 months ago
@51m0n77 Keep telling yourself that.
HelterSkelterForum 4 months ago
@HelterSkelterForum So you dont think there are any mitigating circumstances in her case??
51m0n77 4 months ago
@thadbrains Sympathy for the devil! Rot in hell.
cozener1 4 months ago
@cozener1 Why don't you go to hell and tell me how it is. Asshole!
thadbrains 4 months ago
@thadbrains FUCK OFF you sick shit.
cozener1 4 months ago
@cozener1 I'm sick for disagreeing that a women who stabbed an already dead women 16 times should spend the rest of her life in jail? Should she have done time for this? Yes! 42 years no! If it wasn't such a high profile case and her affiliation with Manson she would have been out along time ago. Manson, Krenwinkle, Watson, and Atkins all got what they deserved. So, get off your self righteous high horse. You dim witt
thadbrains 4 months ago
@thadbrains Your just the sort of weak minded loser who Manson would have had running to commit murder!
cozener1 4 months ago
@cozener1 Not really. You loser. I have a mind of my own. You sheep.
thadbrains 4 months ago
@thadbrains Then use it Lambsy! Just make sure you don't take the next collect call from big bad wolf Manson though!
cozener1 4 months ago
@thadbrains
If Mrs. LaBianca was already dead it is because Van Houten made that happen. Van Houten says she held Mrs. LaBianca down for Krenwinkel to begin stabbing her. And why did Leslie hood Mrs. LaBianca and tether her by the neck? That handiwork of Van Houten's eliminated the lady's chance of fleeing, helping her husband, or succeeding in the fight for her life. And Van Houten stabs her 16 MORE times? --Eats her food, wears her clothes?
She has to pay.
bethpage89 2 months ago
These Manson family members are just object lessons for the public.It's interesting to watch these videos and see these people aging and dying off.Surely it's sad all the way around,but I can't help but think that Charlie is the only one who actually won.Who,from the beginning of his little reign,actually got what he intended:drugs,sex with hot youngsters,blood,revenge on the system,notoriety and 3 hots and a cot.Being a spectator,it's none of my business what happens to any of the gang members.
rokitjon 5 months ago
do the crime! do the time! she was part of a murder gang, and did murder. she came from a priveledged background, didnt need to work, "daddy" provided. she will die in prison. and that is only right. i have four children and eight grandchildren, (two born in the last two weeks) van houten has only the memories of her murdering innocent people. i have just met, my wee grand daughter today, gave her a huge cuddle. brilliant. whos giving lesley a cuddle, some big dyke.
MrJimmyboy1972 5 months ago
@dgl1962 Justice for Rosemary Labianca.
HelterSkelterForum 5 months ago
yes..leslie asked to go do the next killing. she would have gladly done more. she had the capacity in her to kill. she alughed and rellished in it with the others. i have seen tiny flickers of a near grin during speaking in her parole hearings. she still has incongruent emotion and expression to topics of murder. they were mentally wrong or could not have wanted to go kill. she is paying for the lives she helped take. LIFE SENTENCE.
sweetkittytwine 7 months ago
I know what she did is horribly wrong... but man is she beautiful, even with her long graying hair
Mia1501 9 months ago
Funny to see her like this, all through the trial manson and the girls snickered, laughed, treated it like it was a big joke, even at sentencing they were unrepentant, now years later they want out and say they've changed.
Fuck them.
Blahblobify 9 months ago 3
@RoleModelsForDummies what did his book say about leslie? I know waters is a sick person
kfag101 1 year ago
@dgl1962 i never knew jesus was lost so you cant find somthing that always there prisoners are con artists but really! do you think leslies a danger to society? no way.
jimpurdie 1 year ago
steve grogan was paroled in the early 80s aka clem so why not leslie,if she doesnt deserve it after 40 years nobody should get it ,i ask you are you the same person you were at 18?and manson brainwashed them/her.
jimpurdie 1 year ago
@jimpurdie Steve Grogan was mentally retarded. He said he chopped Shorty's head off, but when Shorty was found, there was no signs of decapitation.
Leslie went to the LaBiancas to kill. She wanted to go to Cielo Drive, but wasn't asked.
Where is the justice for Rosemary LaBianca if Leslie is released? Did you see Rosemary's back? Shredded.
HelterSkelterForum 1 year ago
@HelterSkelterForum so true
kfag101 1 year ago
@jimpurdie i agree shortys head was intact but even bugliosi and steven kay said grogan wasnt retarded his brain was pickled with vodka/whiskey/and l.s.d. ,also they said he was much more of a danger to society than van houten.
jimpurdie 1 year ago
@jimpurdie yes i am the same person . perhaps a little less reactive to events arround me. perhaps have had more experiences. but the fiber of my beliefs have not changed at all. I would say her beliefs and inner demons assisted her to do just what she did. if i had committed those crimes i wou;ld expect either the death sentence or a chance to spend my life in prison. a person should not need to change much from 18 yrs on if they were a good person to begin with.
sweetkittytwine 7 months ago
she looks good in chains!..
magus5555 1 year ago
@thejimcox1 And she probably wont be. If there is any justice in the world. Supporters of these monsters should be put in a cell with them.
HelterSkelterForum 1 year ago 5