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  • Reading all this makes me sad.

    How can one belive in a lie like that?

    Religion is nothing but an excuse to make you feel better, a fake answer to existential questions.

    A life after death? It's silly, really.

    But I don't blame you if you've grown up in a christian family, and you've been told all your life that there is someone above. That is called branwashing, and has been used many times before.

  • Evolution is a theory that is not observable, reproducable and it fails every test. Start with the length of time necessary. There is abundant proof that the earth is younger than 10k years and your radiometric proof is based on many assumptions and is inconsistent. IOW evolution is a forced theory. Why do u force it? Cuz you have nothing else except to submit to your creator and ur arrogance is too thick.

  • The naturalists' understanding of evolution is a laughable farce held together by logical fallacies, straw man attacks, willful ignorance and fantastical nonsense.

  • @Devolutionism

    You can't name a SINGLE fallacy...

  • @odinata circular reasoning, begging the question, ipso facto have all been used in arguments over the origin of life.

  • @Devolutionism

    And yet evolution still occurs, is demonstrable, and the understanding of it forms the BACKBONE of Biology....

  • so you sir believe that all organisms derive from a rock?or rock like substance???and that this happened 3.4billion years ago? so OUR ancestor is a rock? Really? and who said i believe everything mainstream christians do?please just answer that question.no fighting! i just want a civilized open diologe my fellow brother

  • @1990danp

    you created your account yesterday and went to a lot of videos copy pasting the same nonsense over and over.

    obvious sockpuppet, obvious.

    Go to school and you'll see they will teach you the difference between Abiogenesis and Evolution.

    now...where is one single science book saying that our ancestor is a rock? name it.

  • Darwin is a monkey

  • @darkway99 So is Jesus Christ.

  • @islamDick and ??

  • I didn't come from no monkey! I was clearly the result of dird and rib, a flood, and generations after generations of incest!

  • Adam and Eve had 2 sons.

  • So the first claim, that random mutations are selected and create different forms of life, is unsustained. The second problem is that there are a vast number of complex systems in nature, and no matter how unglamorous this problem is, no matter how people try to look the other way, the fact is that a huge number of highly complex systems in nature cannot be plausibly accounted for in terms of a gradual build-up of small random mutations. - Michael Denton, Evolution: A Theory in Crisis

  • There are a lot of comments from creationist fundies on this video. Their misunderstanding of the fundamental principles of evolution is both laughable and distressing.

  • Novel about an alternative view of evolution  see video book trailer

  • what typre of drugs can you be on to make you think you evolved from a monkey ,i knew people where stupid but not that god danm stupid ,is that why white people so into monkeys

  • @kennythecooldude You are silly, apes are not incredibly intelligent.

  • @kennythecooldude Humans differ from monkeys, gorillas, etc., in that we are the only ones to use rational thought, have language skills, create music and art, discover and use science. Males of all other primates have a penile bone, humans do not. All other primates operate by instinct only, the law of the jungle always rules. Humans recognize that the law of the jungle is wrong. and we obviate it. We are not related to chimps.

  • Voodoo, witchcraft, astrology, and evolution. Those are all beliefs without support from science.

  • @TheRockAltitudeCR There might be "historical evidence" for the existence of some dude named Jesus, but there's no evidence that he's a god.

  • Evolution is one of the biggest lies of the century. Anyone who believes that their ancestors were decendants of apes or monkeys is truly deceived. God Almighty (not Charles Darwin) created everything including different species of their own kind. Charles Darwin's lie of evolution has been told long enough and spread throughout the masses that the majority of deceived people have believed it is based upon fantasy. Fantasy is what you find at Disneyland. Faith is what you find in God's Word.

  • evolution is the craziest theory ever made. now answer this, which came first chicken or the egg, if the chicken evolved from seafoods.

  • yeah universe was born from nothing our galaxy in exactly right place our solar system in exactly right place our earth in exactly right place colision with other planet moon was crated asteroids fall on earth bringing water moon move away allowing oceans cool down basic bactria evolve producing oxygen ice age dinosauruses and they die cuz of asteroids is they didnt die human wouldnt exist mammals evolve from nothing human got brain and no other animal did etc etc etc darwin was an Idiot
  • @TheDallasDragon You are right. All this beautiful creation > who created it if it was not GOD ?

    Darwin was really a ignorant man. Thats why he left his medicine because nothing was going in his stupid head anyway.

  • @kxkhan Darwin's only degree was in theology.

  • he reads to fast

  • i notice something, most evolutionist seem to love pointing at creationist and calling them morons, don't you realize they did the same thing that you did? they made a choice and there sticking to it, in this case its a choice to believe in something. so just leave other people alone you jerks.

  • watch?v=q1iCjKWzeEE&feature=re­lated

    Irreducible complexity

    There are structures inside cells that are so complex that they had to have been developed top down, not brick by brick up, they did not 'evolve' they were designed top down.

    Microbiology shows that Darwinian Evolution is impossible.

    AND THAT IS STATING IT MILDLY.The video link above is what they now teach in colleges, technology evolves fast and so what was true and popular yesterday is outdated info today.

  • @c1zx Don't you know that the idea of "irreducible complexity" has already been proven wrong by Kennith Miller in the 2006 Dover trial? That's why the ID/Creationist people lost the case. Watch Miller's lecture to educate yourself: watch?v=ieKDLtrBXs0

  • @gupsphoo Thx, I saw that, yes it looks like the argument was no good.

  • Favorite Darwin Quotes 2 of 7,000

    "It never struck me how illogical it was to say that I believed in what I could not understand and what is in fact unintelligible."

    "I was a young man with unformed ideas, I threw out queries, suggestions, wondering all the time over everything: and to my astonishment the ideas took like wild fire. People made a religion out of them."

  • good idea to read this out loud. I am reading this now and it is without a doubt the best and most prolific truth humans have ever encountered. How ironic that human ignorance and arrogance (the things that created religion in the first place) is indeed a product of evolution itself.

  • One nice thing about religion zealots is its extremely rigorous concern with scientific theories not being applied to religion itself. And even better, while they descredit science they use it as long as it serves their purpose. Mutations? Sure. Microevolution? Of course. Macroevolution? No, it contradicts the bible.

  • Twackius, why zebras can cross with other equines?

  • yay i like ppl that read online. my reading is not that great. i do have this book. but reading alone i find it hard to do. it makes it easyer to hear

  • when I first heard the Darwinian Theory on evolution, the first doubt that came into my mind was that, if humans came from apes, why are there people with faces that look like horses and dogs?

  • Man was created on God's image and some of its attributes.

    An ape is a beast with no ruins or civilization, that copulates 24/7 and rapes murders and eats people. Know anyone like that? I do. hahahahaah

  • So what this book is saying is, the ape one day decides he didn't like dragging his knuckles, and said to himself,, (because you know Apes can talk and think for themselves)LOL!! I think my next offspring will stand a little straighter lifting his knuckles off the ground. WE WERE CREATED, WE HAVE A CREATER!!!GOD!! Religion no, Christianity YES

  • @Trackman203 - you clearly have not evolved. Either that or you were born without a brain.

  • nice

  • If you follow organized religion then you are a mindless idiot incapable of thinking independently. Have you ever thought for just a second that God might not exist? If not then you are stupid. If you have, you surely realized that the theory of a God has no evidence whatsoever. The only evidence Christians THINK they have is saying 'It was God!' in the areas that science can not yet explain. So because science doesn't know, it was God? Right... go and waste your life talking to the sky, idiot.

  • at last some one with working brain, that is the beauty of science, can be challenged and set us free of superstition to let us think and dare to find answers, just imagine the first man pondering why the night or what are those dots in the sky night some dare to search for mundane answers others to superstition unfortunately superstition has won by force for so many centuries it time to look in to the evidence and decide for yourself thanks

  • @YoungOne1243 - Excellent, love the "go and waste your life talking to the sky, idiot" bit.

  • @YoungOne1243 i can tell you one thing i think, calling anyone a idiot only makes the accuser a idiot because the only way you can judge someone is if they completely open themselves up to people around them, and by expressing what you think someone else is when you can never truly know unless you are them, and even then you may not really know, makes you the idiot, the only idiot, and thats my opinion.

  • Anyone believing this sort of lies would believe anything

  • What sort of lies? The make believe guy in the sky, or natural selection with all it's evidence?

    One of those is a lie, and it's not the natural selection one.

  • Wtf....Is this guy reading the intro near a tornado or something??????

  • At no time in history did a common ancestor branch off to make two new separate and distinct species.

    That's impossible, what a dreamer you are.

  • Not impossible.

  • Poof, light is created.

    poof. earth and water is created

    poof, life and shit is created

    poof, stars and the sun (the actual light sources) are created

    poof, humans are born

    order or evacuation, humans are kicked out of eden.

    Yeah......that story is alot more convincing than thousands upon thousands of pieces of evidence which can only be explained through evolution.

    hahahaha nice homeschooling you got there

  • Don't try to understand God with your limited human understanding, you won't be able to.

    And really the evidence is not very convincing, give me one example of evidence that's irrefutable, "you can't".

    You should think for your self or I suppose you could believe some PHD who's got nothing else to do than dream up this stuff.

    One day you'll know the truth, hopefully it won't be to late for you.

  • Don't tell me a god then exists if you just claimed that no single human being can grasp the idea of god. If such is the case, no one should possibly even touch the subject for everyone is unqualified. You've just run urself into a wall dude. Either god is understandable or he isn't. If he isn't there is no point in doing anything in it's favour since u don't understand it and it's intentions anyway as you just said yourself. This is a common mistake by believers. I'll be christian and forgive u

  • When you die my friend, all will go black. There will be nothing but pure peace, there certianly won't be a bastard of a god demanding your eternal slavery.

  • i agree but what your saying is not true, evolution has never been proved. Archeologie, biochemist, etc... don't go. It looks like the animals just where there, there is no connection between races.

  • wtf u talking garbage? evolution has been proven. We have proven micro-evolution time and time again. Macro-evolution. Going from monkey to human or from rodent to a frickin whale has all been documented and the micro-evolutionary steps have been identified mostly. The animals have always been in the ground (for as far as we know) and we can see the gradual changes of the species as we go through the layers and through time. So what the heck u talking about?

  • There is a huge connection, do some learning before you comment and don't just do the Christian thing and make stuff up.

  • my last comment was deleted, i will message it to you. Contains a video whith scientist talking about the evolution THEORY. and dont be such a sheep to just follow what other people say to you, investigate.

  • You might find the sumerian clay tablets very interesting. Explains a lot. Peace

  • yes depending on how you interpret them. Look at zachariah itchen, he thinks its fricken space aliens and a death star that orbits this solar system. I prefer to see a creation myth and historical events portrayed in a fashion only ingorant people would make.

  • @BrutusAlbion Just because there is a stereotype about homeschoolers doesn't mean all independent students are morons.

  • @BrutusAlbion Just because there is a stereotype about homeschoolers doesn't mean all independent students are morons. I happen to home school and I don't follow an idiotic religious lifestyle.

  • What a pity Darwin didn't have access to an electron microscope.

    I'm sure if he could have looked deep into the complexity of the cell he never would have come up with the theory of Evolution.

  • wtf are you talking about cells totally support the theory of evolution.

  • Oh dear, another dummy. Have you ever looked into the complexity of a cell 2worldsatwar?

    I think if you had, you would not still believe in your god.

  • oh thanks, since i am catholic i believe that god made evolution but everyone has their theory right???

    so thanks i do believe in evolution but in a different way you see?

    so thanks forput it in that way ;)

  • fjoseyahoo, I see that somebody else has explained a little for you. Sorry about my outburst there, I should have checked your profile first..I thought maybe you were an adult, american hillbilly or something, the people who ask that question usually are, you see.. Cheers!:)

  • no problem and no i hope i am never an american hilbilly, i am mexican- american from chicago 13 years, its okay man i kinda of would have done the same thing (kind of) cheers!!!!!

  • if we come fro monkeys, how come modern monkeys didnt evolve into us???

  • We didn't come from monkeys, but we do share a comomon primate ancestor. Do some reading.

  • k dude calm down

  • actualy u know...while its true that we don't come from modern monkeys, considering that both have a common ancestor, and that common ancestor looked pretty much what we would classify as a monkey today....we do come from monkeys. But we evolved into apes somewhere first and then became humans hihi...so yeah how technical do you want to get? We also were a single celled organism once but heck who cares.

  • @BrutusAlbion

    We whites are the Children of Adam, creators of advance civilization and technology.

  • @megadarwin135 uhmmm yes and considering adam was the first man and therefore the only male genus to produce offspring it is only natural that all humans are descendents directly from adam. DUH!!!!

  • fjoseyahoo, you are a f%¤king idiot: "Err,drool, dribble, I'm a retard..how come sparrows haven't evolved into eagles, mnnnrghh, I'm retarded..mnnrghdroool,dribble­,drool" Fuck you, pick up a biology-book for children and learn some basics about speciation, you retard! : )

  • mutations create variety in species and natural selection gets rid of the weak in the species this is OBSERVED and EVIDENCED..... this is science

    But mutation and selection do not change one species into another this is NOT observed and NOT evidenced ....this is a RELIGION, a faith ,a belief..

  • my biology prof said mitochondria dna? does not change. She said that current research (1990's) could not trace the same mitochondria in monkeys and apes to humans?? Anybody ever heard of anything like this or know of any good articles relating to this?

  • Let's just say that your biology professor is full of shit!

    It has normal changes just like nuclear DNA, the difference is that this mitochondrial DNA follows the mother's line and mutates to change where nuclear DNA gets it's information from both gametes and mutations are usually recessive.

    Looks like your teacher does not deserve to be referred to as a professor. No professor would make such a claim unless they were absent during that lecture on mitochondrial DNA.

  • what was that ? slow down and stop mumbling, seach darwins children and grand children ,,,, he he he

  • Nature EVOLVES in a continuous gradation from soulless to animals, through the living beings that aren't animals(leaves as food,microorganisms), with the result the akin living beings are so close to each other that their difference seems infinitesimal (Α-Ι, On The Parts Of Animals 681, α31): Aristotle, the cautious direct-democrat, praiser of CONCILIATION & AUTARKY :'Politics', 'Athenian Constitution'.

    Anaximander: Humans EVOLVED from fishes.

    watch?v=QpD8Qa3tQQk

  • Should of have spell check that.

  • Everybody one's that humans were genetic engineer "98% of the human DNA is Junk DNA" WTF

  • You read a bit fast, but thanks for posting this anyways!

  • DONT believe that this is a big mistec.dont forget the GOD ALLAH,if you dont fall dont believe darwin theorie,

  • If you want to preach your shit, please learn to speak and write the language properly. Anyway i won't give importance to you. I sincerely hope you're just a kid having fun with stupid jokes; otherwise, good luck.

  • hey are you a orang oetan or chimpansee,beaucause i dont not believe that you are a human,you are a shit)))

  • Ah, the wonderful religious compassion we've all come to expect be it from muslim or christian. Fuck off now.

  • Count me among those who dont believe in religion & fairy tales and is awed by science and nature just as they are.

  • has any one notices how atheists on on the rise? you religious nut jobs need to open up your eyes!

  • its not a matter of numbers that confine winners or truth seekers , it is not an amount of numbers

  • Darwin sure draws out the moroms,Why do they give a damn what other think...

  • Chill dude, you know what they say about moroms in glass houses.....

  • in what way as evolution been proven false?

  • I appreciate you trying to record this for youtube, especially for the timing of Darwin Day this week. The reading is very fast though, try to slow down, even if it means making more posts. Maybe alternate some different readers into it.

    Way to use the Hitchhiker's Guide To the Universe theme! It works perfectly.

  • That was Darwin's stance, until he landed on the coast of West South America...

  • "Ive been looking for 1 of those rocks giving birth"

    If you look in the Bible man is made out of dirt, which is the closest thing I can find to this nonsense.

    "or a winged cow"

    If you found one of those it would probably disprove evolution, or at least our understanding of it.

    "i cant find any of those fossils linking a human to an ape either, can some1 tell me where to dig. "

    Sure, the Rifty valley in Africa is a good place to start, there have been hundreds found there.

  • Finding similarities between the bones of the human hand to those contained within a whale's fin proves that Man & whale share similarities in bone-structure when one compares a human's hand to a whale's fin. Therefor: they are the same. Their common ancestor is WHALE BOY.

  • Stupid fucking spammer.

  • Just delete his comments,its your video ;)

  • I've blocked him but his comments shall remain so others can see what a fucking moron he is.

  • Hes really a moron .... Cant believe how DUMB some persons can be,"darwinism" is not a religion :| some ppl should understand that ... Really ,thats only a theory ,a theory about DIVERSITY Of life implicating no beliefs or gods or anything its only a theory that is far more plausible than religious theory but well they cant understand that ... so sad :|

  • Ohhh, don't block him, now he's gunna spend more time spewing his idiocy over my comments sections.

  • Sorry dude, I don't like blocking people but it gets to a point where I don't want to waste my free time dealing with comment after comment of inanity.

  • According the cover's line-up: modern Man comes first and simians follow.

  • All churches have denominations. Darwin's Church is evolving so naturally there will be strife amongst Darwinians. One day we'll have Orthodox Darwinians; Reformed Darwinians; Evolutionary Separatist Darwinians; Church of the Holy Child: Master Charles Darwin, etc.

  • Darwinism is bestiality.

  • I love bestiality and got a nice tammed goat in my dorm

  • merry christmas you goat fucker!

  • Merry Christmas to u too. Don't have an extra goat for me do u?

  • Sorry, no goats. Gotta Llama if you're interested.

  • Cool!! Llama is pretty sweet man! Hook me up dude.

  • Wow I can't believe people are using the bible to discredit evolution especially by using bible quotes. That's not even laughable science that's just stupidity. Come on people if you wanna look intelligent at least use a little bit of bogus science to back up your claims not just spewing out quotes left and right. Even then you will all be proven wrong because like it or not, we evolved from primates. I'm Roman Catholic and I staunchly defend evolution. I think God used it but it does exist.

  • "the earth was formed out of water and by water."(2 Peter 3:5)

  • Well, if you're just gonna spam my vids with bullshit quotes, I'm gonna have to block you. Spammers take up too much of my time for me not to.

  • They perish because they refused to love the truth and be saved.  For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie.(2 Thess 2:10-11)

  • Wow, according to your own book God's a cunt.

  • I rather believe in a higher power than believe I evolved from a monkey, sorry.

    and did this loon say life was created by lightning striking a puddle of mud? rofl!

  • uh no. No he didn't. And truth isn't about what you'd prefer to be true. I'd rather believe I was immortal and had superpowers but that doesn't change what's actually true.

  • Thanks for the admission and the agreement, as you can see from our exchange, real and lingering questions remain and obviously the evidence is inconclusive and open to interpretation at this point. Have a nice day!

  • No worries but i will just add as a post script that the evidence is inconclusive for you, not me.

  • Another post script-

    "Other people too, not just scriptural literalists, remain unpersuaded about evolution. According to a Gallup poll drawn from more than a thousand telephone interviews conducted in February 2001, no less than 45 percent of responding U.S. adults agreed that "God created human beings pretty much in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years or so." Evolution, by their lights, played no role in shaping us.

    That from National Geographic Magazine.

  • One final post script - The US is the only developed nation that doesn't have an overwhelming acceptance of evolution. Bah, this discussion will end at some point :)

  • Perhaps that is why we are the developed nation that leads the free world. Skepticism coupled with divine intervention :)

    Have a nice day!

  • Or it could be your abundance of land and natural resources? Hmmm what's more likely?

    Laterz!

  • The skeptic in me tells me that both Russia and China have more of both, yet we seem to be ahead of both of them in all the relevant categories.

    Perhaps God does bless America.

  • AH well, perhaps it was the parent nation that you so rudely turned your back on that gave you a nice head start. And yes, russia and china do have a large amount of both but not the same resources. I'm thinking gold and oil.

    Perhaps America got lucky.

  • Whoa, by my count we went back and bailed out that "parent nation" 3 times in the Last century :)

    Perhaps God did save the Queen.

  • Wow, your count is wrong. WW2 certainly didn't count. We'd won the battle oif Britain by the time you guys decided to pop you're little heads in. If anything us and you bailed out the rest of Europe. But anyway silly little jingoistic discussions are boring. Although who knows, maybe god loves Vietnam.

  • God loves everyone:)

  • Whatever. The discussion is ended.

  • LOL

  • "God created human beings pretty much in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years or so."

    Yes and those with a high school educated are less likely to believe this primative belief, thiose with a degree are even less likely to believe any imaginary friend in the sky, those with PhDs evening less.

    See Intelligence is inversely proportional to belief in any god!

  • I have a PhD. and I believe in God.

    So much for that theory (lol).

  • Yeah, I agree. Intelligence does not mean belief is null and void. Correlation does not equal causation. You just need to look at Ken Miller.

  • "Yeah, I agree. Intelligence does not mean belief is null and void."

    Yes IDiots who have PhDs then get into videos and lie about the Cambrian explosion.

    "Correlation does not equal causation"

    Not always, but you claiming more intellingent/eductaed people are far less likely to believe in a god is just concidence?

    Same coincidence in every country? Same for each level of education? Correlation does not equal causation. You just need to look at Ken Miller

  • "I have a PhD. and I believe in God.

    So much for that theory (lol). "

    Really and you not understand the simple fact people with PHDs are far less likely to believe in any god than people who did not complete hish school!

    So is this christian ignorance kicking in?

  • Whilst it is true that education generally decreases the likelihood off belief in a god, that doesn't mean the only people who believe in a god are idiots. But yes, anyone with a phd who is a proponent of ID is, in fact, an idiot, especially if they are working within the field of biological science.

  • "that doesn't mean the only people who believe in a god are idiots"

    That is not what I stated, I stated the fact more intelligent/educated people are afr less likely to believe in any god.

    "in fact, an idiot, especially if they are working within the field of biological science"

    The fool from the discover institute even lies in videos and claims 99.99% of animals where created in the cambrian explosion. This is offcourse a lie and he knows as he is a biologist.

  • Oh yeahs that's a disgrace, being wilfully ignorant as a scientist is pretty much as dishonest as you can be.

  • You are paying quite a few of us "idiots" with your tax dollars. I'd argue the point but since you are paying me to take my family on a vacation to the O.C. and Hawaii and the plane leaves soon, I just don't have time. Thanks for footing the bill!

    Surf's Up!

  • "I have a PhD. and I believe in God. "

    Please tell what is yopur PhD in? and where is it from?

    Being so intelligent yet so ignorant is not somthing to make anyone proud.

  • "I have a PhD. and I believe in God. "

    1) What is your PhD in?

    2) Who gave it to you?

    3) Where can I get a copy?

  • Well I'm certainly glad I live in the UK, for many, many reasons, this comment being one of them.

  • There is no "s" in high school, please make sure your spelling is correct before you accuse someone of ignorance, it really makes you look bad and calls your entire argument into question. (lol)

    Now what were you saying about education? (lol)

  • If you must use the phrase laugh out loud please spell it out in full and certainly don't include it within parenthesis as this makes no grammatical sense.

  • () means inside joke, lol is laugh out loud.

    Hope that helps (lol)

  • A PhD in what. Iff I may ask?

  • I would disagree with that, if anything modern genetics have cast a cloud of doubt on the entire theory. For example, Genetics have proven that one of our supposed Darwinian ancestors, the Neanderthals have no genetic link to modern humans, they are no more our ancestors than modern chimpanzees are, yet for decades they were put forward as such, and (erroneosly)sometimes still are.

    This is why Darwinian evolution models are in crisis, hard science is punching major holes in the theory.

  • Yep, whole heartedly agree. The neanderthal is not our ancestor, that's been known for some time. They are related to us in a similar way to chimps. They branched off from a common ancestor, moved into europe before homo sapiens and were out competed by our ancestors. That's not evolution in crisis, it's a new understanding of our ancestry.

    I think we're going to have to amicably agree to disagree here, this discussion is really getting no where and once more I apologise for harsh language.

  • The unified theory of evolution is based on Darwin's theory, which you admitted is based on pangenesis, which you admitted is incorrect. Do you see where that leaves the unified theory of evolution?

    I agree with you that the theory of evolution is in crisis and perhaps it is time to scrap it for something better, or at least something that stands up to the evidence. As you stated, this theory does not.

  • Fucking hell! You're just not listening. You're just repeating the smae bullhit over and over.

    Let me break this down. There is this thing we called science. Science is adaptable. Science changes our world view as we learn more. Evolution theory has adpated to include Mendel's work which proves evolution to be true far better than pangenesis did for obvious reasons. Now either say something relevant or I block you.

  • No need for profanity,you were simply proven to be incorrect.

    Mendel proved Darwin to be incorrect, would you like to block him too? (lol)

    Darwin, pangenesis,evolution and you have all turned out to be incorrect, if the best you can do to dispute it is a rant laced with profanity, you have conceded the point.

    Have a nice day.

  • Sorry but seriously. You're just repeating the same thing over and over again without admitting that research has continued since then and a theory isn't just left after conception. It's not religion it's science, it changes over time as our understanding of the natural word changes. Laterz.

  • Apology accepted. What I'm saying is that a core tenant of this theory has been disproven by genetics. Further genetic research has shown us that there are distinct differences between us and some of the ancestors incorrectly attributed to us. By disproving Darwins belief in pangenesis with hard science, Mendel's laws also showed a huge flaw in the entire concept/structure.

    Genetics does not rely on darwinian evolution models because they have been proven to be incorrect. I hope that helps...

  • But what I'm saying is that the theory of evolution isn't the same as it was when Darwin came up with it. It is has been changed to account for what we know about genetics and is the basis of all biology. It is the most pervasive and complete theory we have.

  • I am listening and I am hearing you loud and clear. Your characterization of Darwin's theory being based incorrectly on pangenesis is correct, except that it was not insignificant. In fact it is so significant that it calls the entire theory into question. Pangenesis was one of Darwin's tenant beliefs, without it much of the rest of his theory falls apart. As you stated it was proven later to be invalid as have many of Darwin's other predictions. Darwin's theory appears to be in crisis.

  • Unified Theory of Evolution. Look it up, read a goddamn book on evolution that wasn't written by Darwin and see what we've learned since then. Evolution began with Darwin but it certainly doesn't end there. Darwin's theory may be in crisis but the theory of evolution as we understand it today is alive and well and kicking creationist arse.

  • It would seem to me that the crazy thing is to continue to support an idea that has been proven incorrect. Darwins ideas were based on pangenesis which as you stated, was discredited by Mendels work. Why would anyone continue to support an idea that has already been disproven?

  • Because the fact is that it's not the pangenesis part of evolution that is important. It's the adaptation through natural selection. No one is supporting pangenesis this day because it has been proven wrong but evolution itself has not only been proven right but makes far more sense hwen Mendels work is applied to it.

  • Mendel disagreed with Darwin's theory. He read Origin of Species and commented on it, he disagreed with pangenesis and shared his thoughts about it with others. The neo-darwinist movement could not prove pangenesis so they adopted Mendelian Laws as a substitute, however these laws have never been able to conclusively prove evolution, thus it remains a theory.

  • No, Mendel's work provided the answer that had alluded Darwin during his lifetime. It provided a model for inheritance and adaptation. Evolution is a theory yes but you're using the layman's definiton, not the scientific one.