Dear Frnd as The video show I already accept Jesus (pbuh) as the true way bec he was the prophet of God . Jesus (pbuh) fast , didn't eat pig , pray to God just as Muslims do . We follow Jesus (pbuh) way of life more than Christians do . Plz stop following Paul and start Following Jesus (pbuh) bec if u Follow Jesus (pbuh) and not Paul then u will end up with God's way whether u call yourself christian or Muslim. Jesus (pbuh) was way to God bec he was Prophet of God.
@senja71 Jesus (pbuh) is a gr8 Prophet of God ...no question about that !! (Jesus) teaches that salvation is only attained by following him. According to Deuteronomy 24:16, Ezekiel 18:20-21, and Micah 6:7-8, a man is responsible for his own sin. Jesus rejected the Pauline doctrine of vicarious atonement.
@senja71 Jesus (pbuh) said no one came to God except for him is exactly what all prophets said that follow them to be on God way.
Jesus (pbuh) was never foretold to die for ur sins. Moses (pbuh) and rest never preached hanging on the cross . Infact God saved Abraham child from human sacrifice . why wouldn't he save a gr8 prophet like Jesus (pbuh) ??
Jesus (pbuh) never said he was before creation . He said before Abraham I was . he never said he existed before Adam or angels .
Islamtheguidingforce: No prophet had ever made sucha claim as Jesus. This is simplynot true. "Whoever believes in Him is not condemned, but whoever does NOT believe stand condemned already, because he HAS NOT BELIEVED in the name of God's ONE AND ONLY SON" (John 3:18)
When you ask; Why would God not save a great prophet like Jesus,- it shows that you have absolutely NO understanding of the mission of Christ! Jesus was not to be "saved"!! WE WERE! Jesus even said that noone was "taking"
His life, but that He gave it freely. The whole purpose of Jesus coming to earth, was this; to DIE for our sins, so that we, you and I, could be righteous before God! Because you and I, will NEVER, no matter how hard we try, be able to be sin-free! Jesus was the perfect sacrifice, because He was the sinless Son of God!
And yes, Jesus said He was before Abraham, but He also told that He'd seen the devil cast out from Heaven down to earth! (This was before creation, the devil was already
on earth when Adam and Eve was created, as youknow.)
BUT, Jesus also says in His prayer to God: " Father, I want those you have given Me to be with Me where I am, and to see My glory, the glory you have given Me because You loved Me BEFORE THE CREATION OF WORLD" (John 17:24)
You say that there is no prophecy about Jesus in the OT, and I see you've also sent me a link to a site that supposedly "proves" this. This is just sad. Isaiah 53 CLEARLY states that "He was wounded for
our transgressions"! You canread that whole chapter yourself. Jesus Himself even stated several times that the prophets had been talking about HIM. (David, Moses)
Last, but not least; Jesus Himself SAYS that He came to be crucified for the sins of men! When you compare Jesus to prophets, I know that you must have an "explanation-problem", even to yourself. Because anybody that reads the Gospels, sees that Jesus puts Himself in a position that NO other had done before him, and IF anybody
would try to, they'd be executed. And that was the exact reason for the Highpriests to kill Jesus; because He made Himself "GOD"!(Mark 14:61-64)
When I read the Quran, what always "strikes" me,-is the importance of pointing out that God has no "son"...! The bible tells us to not have other gods before God the Father,- but the Quran's "main concern" seems to be Jesus...! In order to "justify" this, The Qurann speaks "well" of Jesus,- honoring Him as a prophet, and son on..! But this is
the biggest lie told, and the exact state of "numness" the devil wants us to live in.
AS LONG as we don't believe that Jesus WAS who He said He was, the devil's happy and has succeeded his big scam. Aslong as there is NO CROSS, he's even more pleased..! there is only ONE way to God; through His SON Jesus Christ. This the devil knows very well, and will, by ALL means, try to keep people away from the truth. Sadly, he has deceived millions into believing that..!
@islamtheguidingforce read Isaiah 51. Its a prophecy about Jesus.. Concerning Abraham God did this as a test of his(Abraham's ) trust in Him and of Abraham's love for God.This is also an example for us that God rewards faithfulness.
@TheCuppycakedelight5 dear friend please read Isaiah 42-54 it predicts Islam and the removal of GOD Almighty's Covenant from the people of Israel:... i am sending u a link plz go through it if possible ... do check ur mail :)
@senja71Jesus was teaching his disciples in the outer court of the Temple and one of them said unto him: Master, it is said by the priests that without shedding of blood there is no remission. Can then the blood offering of the law take away sin? And Jesus answered: No blood offering, of beast or bird, or man, can take away sin, for how can the conscience be purged from sin by the shedding of innocent blood? Nay, it will increase the condemnation. (Gospel of the Nazorenes, Lection 33, verse 1-2)
@senja71 Jesus taught Salvation comes through Faith and Works, Paul distorted it:Paul rejected these laws and concocted his own religion, claiming salvation comes through faith only (sound familiar?) and not physical action or bodily prayer.
The Bible teaches the exact opposite, the stories of the Prophets teach us that salvation is attained through fasting, physical prayer, and righteous deeds, not just having faith, which is merely an article required in any organized religion.
It does not have the answers to the problems of mankind. Islam superiorly has the solutions to the problems of mankind, the social corruptions in the society.
Islam demands a very high standard of morality which fixes the problems of the world. Its is a Challenge to religion; a complete system of Life. The lawlessness of Christianity cannot be denied, since Christianity is based on emotions and not history.
Jesus taught the very opposite of what Christianity teaches today. The purpose of Jesus mission was to preach the Torah, not to be crucified. He taught salvation came through observing the Law, and not by the eloquent words of the later Church. Jesus declared in Matthew 17:21 that salvation is attained through fasting and prayer.
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TheCuppycakedelight5 1 year ago
Dear Frnd as The video show I already accept Jesus (pbuh) as the true way bec he was the prophet of God . Jesus (pbuh) fast , didn't eat pig , pray to God just as Muslims do . We follow Jesus (pbuh) way of life more than Christians do . Plz stop following Paul and start Following Jesus (pbuh) bec if u Follow Jesus (pbuh) and not Paul then u will end up with God's way whether u call yourself christian or Muslim. Jesus (pbuh) was way to God bec he was Prophet of God.
islamtheguidingforce 2 years ago
Jesus thaught His followers that NOTHING that goes inside a person makes it unclean,-only what's going out (through the heart).
Christians are folllowing the teachings of jesus, not Paul,-this is a major lie/misconseption.
senja71 2 years ago
@senja71 Jesus (pbuh) is a gr8 Prophet of God ...no question about that !! (Jesus) teaches that salvation is only attained by following him. According to Deuteronomy 24:16, Ezekiel 18:20-21, and Micah 6:7-8, a man is responsible for his own sin. Jesus rejected the Pauline doctrine of vicarious atonement.
islamtheguidingforce 2 years ago
Jesus, NOT Paul, said that NOONE came to God except through Him!
Jesus said, NOT Paul, that He came to die for the salvation of mankind,as foretold by the prophet's ages ago.
Jesus said, NOT Paul, that He and the Father was one, and howecer saw Him, saw God!
Jesus said, NOT Paul, that He had been in heaven before creation itself!
Jesus said, NOT Paul, that all should honor Him AS we honor God, and that He would be the judge of people at judgement day!
Peace.
senja71 2 years ago
@senja71 Jesus (pbuh) said no one came to God except for him is exactly what all prophets said that follow them to be on God way.
Jesus (pbuh) was never foretold to die for ur sins. Moses (pbuh) and rest never preached hanging on the cross . Infact God saved Abraham child from human sacrifice . why wouldn't he save a gr8 prophet like Jesus (pbuh) ??
Jesus (pbuh) never said he was before creation . He said before Abraham I was . he never said he existed before Adam or angels .
islamtheguidingforce 2 years ago
Islamtheguidingforce: No prophet had ever made sucha claim as Jesus. This is simplynot true. "Whoever believes in Him is not condemned, but whoever does NOT believe stand condemned already, because he HAS NOT BELIEVED in the name of God's ONE AND ONLY SON" (John 3:18)
When you ask; Why would God not save a great prophet like Jesus,- it shows that you have absolutely NO understanding of the mission of Christ! Jesus was not to be "saved"!! WE WERE! Jesus even said that noone was "taking"
senja71 2 years ago
His life, but that He gave it freely. The whole purpose of Jesus coming to earth, was this; to DIE for our sins, so that we, you and I, could be righteous before God! Because you and I, will NEVER, no matter how hard we try, be able to be sin-free! Jesus was the perfect sacrifice, because He was the sinless Son of God!
And yes, Jesus said He was before Abraham, but He also told that He'd seen the devil cast out from Heaven down to earth! (This was before creation, the devil was already
senja71 2 years ago
on earth when Adam and Eve was created, as youknow.)
BUT, Jesus also says in His prayer to God: " Father, I want those you have given Me to be with Me where I am, and to see My glory, the glory you have given Me because You loved Me BEFORE THE CREATION OF WORLD" (John 17:24)
You say that there is no prophecy about Jesus in the OT, and I see you've also sent me a link to a site that supposedly "proves" this. This is just sad. Isaiah 53 CLEARLY states that "He was wounded for
senja71 2 years ago
our transgressions"! You canread that whole chapter yourself. Jesus Himself even stated several times that the prophets had been talking about HIM. (David, Moses)
Last, but not least; Jesus Himself SAYS that He came to be crucified for the sins of men! When you compare Jesus to prophets, I know that you must have an "explanation-problem", even to yourself. Because anybody that reads the Gospels, sees that Jesus puts Himself in a position that NO other had done before him, and IF anybody
senja71 2 years ago
would try to, they'd be executed. And that was the exact reason for the Highpriests to kill Jesus; because He made Himself "GOD"!(Mark 14:61-64)
When I read the Quran, what always "strikes" me,-is the importance of pointing out that God has no "son"...! The bible tells us to not have other gods before God the Father,- but the Quran's "main concern" seems to be Jesus...! In order to "justify" this, The Qurann speaks "well" of Jesus,- honoring Him as a prophet, and son on..! But this is
senja71 2 years ago
the biggest lie told, and the exact state of "numness" the devil wants us to live in.
AS LONG as we don't believe that Jesus WAS who He said He was, the devil's happy and has succeeded his big scam. Aslong as there is NO CROSS, he's even more pleased..! there is only ONE way to God; through His SON Jesus Christ. This the devil knows very well, and will, by ALL means, try to keep people away from the truth. Sadly, he has deceived millions into believing that..!
Peace.
senja71 2 years ago
@senja71 Exactly u all will be judged on day of judgment not already saved by blood of Jesus (pbuh) . U will be questioned for ur choices!
islamtheguidingforce 2 years ago
@islamtheguidingforce read Isaiah 51. Its a prophecy about Jesus.. Concerning Abraham God did this as a test of his(Abraham's ) trust in Him and of Abraham's love for God.This is also an example for us that God rewards faithfulness.
May God keep you safe.
TheCuppycakedelight5 1 year ago
@TheCuppycakedelight5 dear friend please read Isaiah 42-54 it predicts Islam and the removal of GOD Almighty's Covenant from the people of Israel:... i am sending u a link plz go through it if possible ... do check ur mail :)
islamtheguidingforce 1 year ago
Jesus said He was the ONLY way to God...!
Peace
senja71 2 years ago
@senja71Jesus was teaching his disciples in the outer court of the Temple and one of them said unto him: Master, it is said by the priests that without shedding of blood there is no remission. Can then the blood offering of the law take away sin? And Jesus answered: No blood offering, of beast or bird, or man, can take away sin, for how can the conscience be purged from sin by the shedding of innocent blood? Nay, it will increase the condemnation. (Gospel of the Nazorenes, Lection 33, verse 1-2)
islamtheguidingforce 2 years ago
@senja71 Jesus taught Salvation comes through Faith and Works, Paul distorted it:Paul rejected these laws and concocted his own religion, claiming salvation comes through faith only (sound familiar?) and not physical action or bodily prayer.
The Bible teaches the exact opposite, the stories of the Prophets teach us that salvation is attained through fasting, physical prayer, and righteous deeds, not just having faith, which is merely an article required in any organized religion.
islamtheguidingforce 2 years ago
No, Jesus Himself broke the laws (of moses)
God had foretold byy His holy prophets that this would happen, that He'd make a new covenant...!
This is exactly what Jesus does,-he establishes the new covenant in His blood for the forgiveness of sins.
This Paul-vendetta isa sad,sad thing about muslims,-this is what they've been thought...!
If you don't believe in Paul, drop reading his letters,-but the Gospels speak clearly for themselves; Jesus is the son of god,as He Himself said.
senja71 2 years ago
@senja71
Islam is a Religion of action;
Christianity is a religion of fabulous words. It
It does not have the answers to the problems of mankind. Islam superiorly has the solutions to the problems of mankind, the social corruptions in the society.
islamtheguidingforce 2 years ago
@senja71
Islam demands a very high standard of morality which fixes the problems of the world. Its is a Challenge to religion; a complete system of Life. The lawlessness of Christianity cannot be denied, since Christianity is based on emotions and not history.
islamtheguidingforce 2 years ago
@senja71
Jesus taught the very opposite of what Christianity teaches today. The purpose of Jesus mission was to preach the Torah, not to be crucified. He taught salvation came through observing the Law, and not by the eloquent words of the later Church. Jesus declared in Matthew 17:21 that salvation is attained through fasting and prayer.
islamtheguidingforce 2 years ago
Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life, no man cometh unto the Father but by me." If you dont believe that, then that is on you.
demetriusmurch 2 years ago