I've been shooting for 3 years and have 2 Robinhoods the first at 20 yards and second at 30 yards. I was practicing a lot at the time, 3+ hours a day every day.
I am a Pro archer who is on the jnr BG team for compound.
FIRSTLY you need to know that, that particular Korean archer has been and is still considerd the real best recurve archer in the world for target archery and he has competed in and won many olympics.
SECONDLY A robin hood is a reletively rare thing to accomplish in archery and it either takes allot of skill of an accident.
@TheKINGclan1999 >>A robin hood is a relatively rare thing to accomplish in archery and it either takes allot of skill of an accident<<<
OK, So exactly how many times does an archer have to repeat this accident without the use of a bow sight for it to be considered more a skill factor than that of luck, accident, a blessing from the archery Gods, etc.
I can only backup those who say it is believable. @TimeElectronics you judge too quickly on very wrong assumptions. A lot of what you wrote is just an archery theory.
1. As many wrote in comments there was only one shot of the small diameter carbon arrow into what looks to me as an bigger diameter aluminium shaft wtihout nock.
2. from the flat arrow trajectory and sight pin placement it is a short distance shot and you can be so accurate at 20 meters.
@TimeElectronics these two are compound archers as far as I know so bit off topic. My point is you don't need to have a perfect form to perform an accurate shot. Belive me I saw a lot of terribly looking archers shooting high scores. Especially by physically strong people the perfect form can be replaced with the brute "hold still" and they are able to repeat bad shots always the same. Rest is to move the sight.
@vnjabee Off Topic? Hardly. Your Point? Worthless.
Not one of you Archery Einstein's have found the devil in the details within the information provided in this archers own video, and the video information I've provided.
You obviously don't understand the application dynamic back tension. If you did, you would know the worthlessness of your point. Without it, there is no way the archer can experience "Natural Follow Through".
Go watch Michelle and Dave FOLLOW THROUGH the shot!
I totally respect your position on the sport of archery. But I'm fairly certain that you're misinterpreting much in the original video. Clearly, from his reaction and the way he handled the bow after the shot, it was a lucky shot, but Scottie is correct, it looks like a tube that the competitors were supposed to shoot into.
1) It's not a myth, therefore it can't be busted. 2) He's clearly not the best though.
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The shot by this archer could not have been the shot that hit. The angle of attack and trajectory of the shot are not reflected in the strike. Fake shot indeed. Also had this been a true shot the arrows would have been the same diameter. Anybody in archery knows that when this really happens the first arrow splits along the side of the shaft and will catch the second arrow after only about a foot of travel. I am sure there are good archers in Korea. One of them should film a legitimate video.
@MrSupro the arrow in the target wasn't an arrow shirlock. it was a tube with fletches on it. you can obviously see that in the video, they were just proving that you can hit targets that small. but i agree with you, they should make a legitimate video of splitting an arrow, not a tube...
Wow this video is fake any idiot with a brain can see that
1.the odds of being that accurate with any thing are very slim
2.arrows wabble and bend in flight so its almost imposible for an arrow to go into a tube that small because the arrow being show would be wiggling and wobbling to much for the ends to line up
Who Cares? Any archer who earned their Robinhood in sanctioned competition with officials who enforce equipment rules where the archer MUST shoot identical arrows through out the round. The other archers, score keepers, and officials all are witnesses to the Robinhood, and the arrows are inspected to insure it's a REAL Robinhood. with no cheating involved. I earned 2 out of 14 Robinhoods that way in NFAA sanctioned competition. 20 yards, and 60 yards. Both in the bull's eye shot barebow
@TimeElectronics Hey, I'm pretty sure the arrow with black vanes was PLACED in the target, not shot. I think the video editing has confused you. They just show the "money shot" twice. I don't think they are trying to imply that he shot the first arrow. Plus, look at the kid's face. I've never seen a fat asian kid that happy in my life.
This is more of a demonstration of how a "Mythbuster" video can fool people who don't know any better. "Logical" arguments and technical references make it look convincing, but it's horribly flawed from Count #1. The "arrow" placed in the middle is not an arrow. It's a tube. The challenge was for the archer to replicate the "Robin Hood" effect by shooting into the tube. That's why there's no nock or vanes.
@HeroinMethod This was a staged Robin Hood shot that the young man actually did ! That's why the nock was removed he is not the first person to do it and he won't be the last but he did do it !
@TimeElectronics Actually he's right... I'm not sure what you're talking about. They placed a tube in the target and he was trying to shoot the arrow into the tube.
the challenge was just to shoot a robin hood, and this wasnt his first arrow, but just an arrow put in the 10 to hit. it hasn't got a nock so he could hit it and the arrow wouldnt spinn of to another spot. this movie is purely made to show accuracy, and not to show some tricks. this guy is a really good archer though, he maybe hasn't got a perfect technique, but if he shoots each arrow the same way, he will hit histarget. korean guy +1
Every time any archer addresses a target that Robin Hood challenge sits in front of them. So, if this archer really is as good as his video implies, it should be no problem to produce a video of him meeting that challenge in his next officially sanctioned competition.
Both you, and this Best Archer in the world would do well to watch The Adventures of Robin Hood a few times. Robin split the arrow of Philip of Arass, a captain of the guard under Gisbourne, who had struck the bullseye.
They just showed Byron Ferguson on the TV shooting a REAL DEAL Robin hood.
No edits, camera tricks, or tubes stuck into the target to shoot at.
petition the Olympic training summer program. I trained under Lloyd Brown the former Olympic Training center coach, now the English Olympic coach, and his expertise and ability to explain archery are beyond yours. Seek out the highest available correct channels of learning. With what I just witnessed from the kid shooting there is potential for greatness if only driven to the in the right direction. I, myself, hold three national titles in recurve 3D and field and can say the Korean are tops
The shot by the boy with a bare bow is excellent shooting, using field arrows. But to say you understand back tension and clicker release by your definitions is in correct. The training differenced between a USA archers form (definition of back tension and release) is far different than that taught by the national team in Korea, and even as far back as when Korean archers are children. A child in Korea, not even at competition yet, can shot 1300 at FETA distance.
I got a "Robin Hood" in darts once when I was drunk.
rsx123 2 weeks ago
@rsx123 And you were in the zone. The hand/eye skill set required in darts is on a higher order than what is required in archery.
TimeElectronics 1 week ago
I've been shooting for 3 years and have 2 Robinhoods the first at 20 yards and second at 30 yards. I was practicing a lot at the time, 3+ hours a day every day.
bandmasterjf 2 weeks ago
@bandmasterjf And that... clearly makes you a BETTER archer than the one featured in this video.
And, you didn't substitute the first shot arrow with a TUBE either.
Did you.
Case closed.
TimeElectronics 2 weeks ago
It's because u watched this in LQ its real. face it. The last scene seems fake btw
hyunno891 1 month ago
@SomniumDS THANK YOU!
The Korean language is NOT the official traditional universal international language for the one world order;
They pop the nock off an over sized arrow shaft to aim at for this "Best Archer In The World", video.
Clearly, he is NOT! His own video shows he can't shoot an arrow the same way twice!
He is no Darrel Pace, Michelle Ragsdale, or Dave Cousins in shooting skills and/or shooting stature.
There's your bottom line on this youtube wanna be video.
TimeElectronics 1 month ago
yep the first arrow has a bigger diameter than the second
RockingOrange11 1 month ago
I am a Pro archer who is on the jnr BG team for compound.
FIRSTLY you need to know that, that particular Korean archer has been and is still considerd the real best recurve archer in the world for target archery and he has competed in and won many olympics.
SECONDLY A robin hood is a reletively rare thing to accomplish in archery and it either takes allot of skill of an accident.
TheKINGclan1999 1 month ago
@TheKINGclan1999 >>A robin hood is a relatively rare thing to accomplish in archery and it either takes allot of skill of an accident<<<
OK, So exactly how many times does an archer have to repeat this accident without the use of a bow sight for it to be considered more a skill factor than that of luck, accident, a blessing from the archery Gods, etc.
So.. what's the magic number here?
TimeElectronics 1 month ago
I can only backup those who say it is believable. @TimeElectronics you judge too quickly on very wrong assumptions. A lot of what you wrote is just an archery theory.
1. As many wrote in comments there was only one shot of the small diameter carbon arrow into what looks to me as an bigger diameter aluminium shaft wtihout nock.
2. from the flat arrow trajectory and sight pin placement it is a short distance shot and you can be so accurate at 20 meters.
make him this the best archer? Clearly not!
vnjabee 2 months ago 3
@vnjabee Here we sit in the year of 2012, and he/she wants to talk Archery THEORY
May I suggest a trip to the book store for the selection of a good physics book to study the classical mechanics in play shooting a Robinhood.
From the dawn of the first folded paper airplane, to the birth of the f-22 raptor... have we learned anything?
For those who have not studied the subject, its a theory.
For those who have studied and applied the subject, the Raptor's performance becomes a Fact!
TimeElectronics 2 months ago
@TimeElectronics Likewise, Dave Cousins and Michelle Ragsdale.
I gave the link in my video discription. Go watch their video and learn something.
Observe the LAWS of Physics in play in the total package. There is no better shooting video to learn from.
In both cases, applied physics will always get better results than talking BS theory around the campfire, or the internet... till the cows come home.
TimeElectronics 2 months ago
@TimeElectronics these two are compound archers as far as I know so bit off topic. My point is you don't need to have a perfect form to perform an accurate shot. Belive me I saw a lot of terribly looking archers shooting high scores. Especially by physically strong people the perfect form can be replaced with the brute "hold still" and they are able to repeat bad shots always the same. Rest is to move the sight.
vnjabee 1 month ago
@vnjabee Off Topic? Hardly. Your Point? Worthless.
Not one of you Archery Einstein's have found the devil in the details within the information provided in this archers own video, and the video information I've provided.
You obviously don't understand the application dynamic back tension. If you did, you would know the worthlessness of your point. Without it, there is no way the archer can experience "Natural Follow Through".
Go watch Michelle and Dave FOLLOW THROUGH the shot!
TimeElectronics 1 month ago
he was in the Olympics
iHasAbucket0246 2 months ago
@iHasAbucket0246
OK. So where's THAT video of him shooting a Robin Hood at the Olympics then?
TimeElectronics 2 months ago
@TimeElectronics Does the name Darrell Owen Pace ring a bell?
TimeElectronics 1 month ago
these arrows are a complete different material than the one mythbusters used of robin hood
jappper0015 2 months ago
I totally respect your position on the sport of archery. But I'm fairly certain that you're misinterpreting much in the original video. Clearly, from his reaction and the way he handled the bow after the shot, it was a lucky shot, but Scottie is correct, it looks like a tube that the competitors were supposed to shoot into.
1) It's not a myth, therefore it can't be busted. 2) He's clearly not the best though.
benjythebold 2 months ago
il teach that dude his first word in english... B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T!
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AkimoTheropy 2 months ago
Moderator's Note - If any you Archery Einstein's can't get it right after having digested the information provided in the video written description, with provided links, and the video itself... there is little to no chance your comment will see the light of day.
Comments that provide pedigree and real archery shooting knowledge are welcome.
The rest get circular filed.
TimeElectronics 4 days ago
remember long bow form is CRAZY different from comp bow
gobykinglord 3 months ago
The shot by this archer could not have been the shot that hit. The angle of attack and trajectory of the shot are not reflected in the strike. Fake shot indeed. Also had this been a true shot the arrows would have been the same diameter. Anybody in archery knows that when this really happens the first arrow splits along the side of the shaft and will catch the second arrow after only about a foot of travel. I am sure there are good archers in Korea. One of them should film a legitimate video.
MrSupro 3 months ago 3
@MrSupro the arrow in the target wasn't an arrow shirlock. it was a tube with fletches on it. you can obviously see that in the video, they were just proving that you can hit targets that small. but i agree with you, they should make a legitimate video of splitting an arrow, not a tube...
bowhunter42995 2 months ago
@MrSupro wow.....are you serious...... you can obviously see that it was a tube that they put in the target to test the skill of the archer
mryou2ube 1 month ago 5
Actually the Native Americans can beat this. If they had this technology and if there was more of em.
nosupa 3 months ago
@nosupa no you can do this with any bow out there it don't matter at all
minibikerider1 3 months ago
what happened to the nock in the 1st arrow mmmmmm FAKE
TheBubbles069 3 months ago
Wow this video is fake any idiot with a brain can see that
1.the odds of being that accurate with any thing are very slim
2.arrows wabble and bend in flight so its almost imposible for an arrow to go into a tube that small because the arrow being show would be wiggling and wobbling to much for the ends to line up
hellwolf882 3 months ago
@hellwolf882 actually, even though the arrow wobbles, if you got the tip into the tube, the rest of the arrow would follow....
bowhunter42995 2 months ago
this video is fact
bud389 4 months ago
u need form when ur the best archer in the world
megaman4234 4 months ago
I'm not impressed
DragonoftheEastblu 4 months ago
Good job...Bull should be called as bull! Good work everything you say is true and valid.
dynamicangel 5 months ago
Who Cares? Any archer who earned their Robinhood in sanctioned competition with officials who enforce equipment rules where the archer MUST shoot identical arrows through out the round. The other archers, score keepers, and officials all are witnesses to the Robinhood, and the arrows are inspected to insure it's a REAL Robinhood. with no cheating involved. I earned 2 out of 14 Robinhoods that way in NFAA sanctioned competition. 20 yards, and 60 yards. Both in the bull's eye shot barebow
TimeElectronics 5 months ago
@TimeElectronics Hey, I'm pretty sure the arrow with black vanes was PLACED in the target, not shot. I think the video editing has confused you. They just show the "money shot" twice. I don't think they are trying to imply that he shot the first arrow. Plus, look at the kid's face. I've never seen a fat asian kid that happy in my life.
alphazuluz 4 months ago 3
@alphazuluz I'm pretty sure ...? Why not 100% sure? What are you 100% sure of about this archer's video?
I'm not confused in the least by the editing that created this work of video fiction.
I'm 100% sure this video was STAGED to deceive the viewer into believing that what it depicts is real.
Integrity? Where is it? Show me.
Without it, what's the point?
Exactly.
Case closed.
TimeElectronics 4 months ago
it is a fake
CombatArchery 5 months ago
@TimeElectronics jig is up they found out. its a fake
CombatArchery 5 months ago
Im quite sure if he is the best, he doesnt need sights and a stabalizer....
FudgeMan654 6 months ago
whoever made this video is from Mythbusters
albeanmagz19 6 months ago
The archery event was setup by TV show called Sponge Zero from Korea. I see this video is made up by some butt hurt Chinese.
KingofKpop 7 months ago
This is more of a demonstration of how a "Mythbuster" video can fool people who don't know any better. "Logical" arguments and technical references make it look convincing, but it's horribly flawed from Count #1. The "arrow" placed in the middle is not an arrow. It's a tube. The challenge was for the archer to replicate the "Robin Hood" effect by shooting into the tube. That's why there's no nock or vanes.
ScottieTheNerd 7 months ago 80
@ScottieTheNerd LOL
OpenTheTrollGate 7 months ago
@ScottieTheNerd Count #1? That video does not show this arrow being PLACED in the center of the X ring.
Did it get into that X ring by the cast of a bow? Or, was it the human hand that PLACED it in the X ring.
Why not show the the cut/edited portions of the video? I think it would be very interesting to SEE exactly how that ARROW turned into a TUBE.
If the makers of this video were straight up, honest, and showed everything...this issue would not exist.
TimeElectronics 5 months ago
@ScottieTheNerd The only thing flawed here... is your comment.
Which, is typical of the diaper rash cyber generation that infests the internet.
Trolls R Open Season
TimeElectronics 4 months ago
@TimeElectronics I think you're wrong sir.
HeroinMethod 4 months ago
@HeroinMethod This was a staged Robin Hood shot that the young man actually did ! That's why the nock was removed he is not the first person to do it and he won't be the last but he did do it !
TheRunninwolf 2 months ago
@TimeElectronics Actually he's right... I'm not sure what you're talking about. They placed a tube in the target and he was trying to shoot the arrow into the tube.
mattmossop 3 months ago
aimbot...
xYetiii 8 months ago
Asian have cheatcodes for everything
3010strike 8 months ago 61
:O
ikke13fun 8 months ago
the challenge was just to shoot a robin hood, and this wasnt his first arrow, but just an arrow put in the 10 to hit. it hasn't got a nock so he could hit it and the arrow wouldnt spinn of to another spot. this movie is purely made to show accuracy, and not to show some tricks. this guy is a really good archer though, he maybe hasn't got a perfect technique, but if he shoots each arrow the same way, he will hit histarget. korean guy +1
S0J05 8 months ago 15
@S0J05
Every time any archer addresses a target that Robin Hood challenge sits in front of them. So, if this archer really is as good as his video implies, it should be no problem to produce a video of him meeting that challenge in his next officially sanctioned competition.
TimeElectronics 5 months ago
Both you, and this Best Archer in the world would do well to watch The Adventures of Robin Hood a few times. Robin split the arrow of Philip of Arass, a captain of the guard under Gisbourne, who had struck the bullseye.
They just showed Byron Ferguson on the TV shooting a REAL DEAL Robin hood.
No edits, camera tricks, or tubes stuck into the target to shoot at.
There ya go. Case closed.
TimeElectronics 1 week ago
TimeElectronics 4 months ago
this video is fake
xxxm0ris 8 months ago
only thing i see is a fish line and i love this part 9:45
MrGamelab 9 months ago 2
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MrGamelab 9 months ago
how very interresting?
droolerboi 9 months ago
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Oruc709 9 months ago
petition the Olympic training summer program. I trained under Lloyd Brown the former Olympic Training center coach, now the English Olympic coach, and his expertise and ability to explain archery are beyond yours. Seek out the highest available correct channels of learning. With what I just witnessed from the kid shooting there is potential for greatness if only driven to the in the right direction. I, myself, hold three national titles in recurve 3D and field and can say the Korean are tops
fflutterffly 9 months ago
The shot by the boy with a bare bow is excellent shooting, using field arrows. But to say you understand back tension and clicker release by your definitions is in correct. The training differenced between a USA archers form (definition of back tension and release) is far different than that taught by the national team in Korea, and even as far back as when Korean archers are children. A child in Korea, not even at competition yet, can shot 1300 at FETA distance.
fflutterffly 9 months ago
You sure don't talk like someone who's been there, done that. I know this is going to go over your head. But, I'll give it a shot.
To excel at this game you have to truly master the following:
Develop the most intense mental to physical connection possible within yourself.
Through which, you control the forces found within the bow.
This builds to a sudden release, which MUST be committed to total muscle memory only.
In the pitch black, you will know your progress.
Anyone read the book?
TimeElectronics 5 months ago