@skadar - Over 50 pyro-bolts had to blow to release MER A/B. While this too is complex, thorough testing & design procedures should see this successfully on the surface of Mars, ready to AMAZE!
This landing sequence is MUCH too complex! Who green-lighted this hack job? What happened to the spirit of simplicity that fostered the success of the last rover team?
@skadar Try a little research before criticizing. From wikipedia: [..] the atmosphere is too thin for parachutes and aerobraking alone to be effective.[97] Although some previous missions have used airbags to cushion the shock of landing, the MSL is too large for this to be an option.
In a couple of years we went from tossing a bouncy ball with a rover inside to a rocket crane lowering a nuclear powered science lab and to think what would come sooner if NASA's budget was larger...
@quadpod Or if the science budget had been properly managed; or if we hadn't spent so much effort employing an army to send a few humans to LEO a few times a year; or if...
@gbarnes4401 The Martian atmosphere is so thin, even the strongest storms don't have much force compared with those in Earth's atmosphere. Curiosity's ancestors, Spirit & Opportunity, found that the occasional passing dust devil would, in fact, clear their solar panels of dust, leaving them more efficient. And the low Martian temperatures are better for digital cameras than average Earth temps. Turns out Mars is a pretty nice place to be a robot.
There are a lot of very critical operations that have to take place at exactly the right time to land this one. Could they have made it simpler? I don't know. At least NASA has a pretty good success rate with Martian rovers so far. I just hope Curiosity arrives on Mars fully functional and ready to roll.
Curiosity is much heavier than the previous rovers. The balloons required for a craft this size would be too heavy, so they came up with a different landing system, but it should work. The rover is nuclear powered, and is designed to last a lot longer.
@midiout It still feels as if there are a heck of a lot of things that could go wrong, in comparison to earlier craft. 1) Cruise stage fails to separate. 2) Steering thrusters malfunction. 3) Parachutes don't deploy. 4) Heat shield fails to separate. 5) Back shell doesn't drop off. 6) Landing engines don't ignite. 7) Rover does't separate from parachutes. 8) Wheels don't deploy. 9) Descent stage doesn't release rover and falls on it. Did they have to have QUITE so many critical processes?
This seems overly complex for a landing. The former rovers were landed with balloons attached to it, bouncing on the surface. It's much simpler then this system, with less chance of failure.
@squemish51 Oxygen is just the gas we need for breathing. Parachutes would work in any gas, in Mars' case, 95% Carbon Dioxide. The concept of a parachute has nothing to do with which gas it uses, pretty much by definition, according to the Ideal Gas Law.
What could possibly go wrong in the landing? :D
carl0sgs 2 months ago 3
Cool. But I can just see it now...War of the Worlds- Part Two.
Thermagicalwonders 2 months ago
forever alone.
Filo127 2 months ago
@skadar - Over 50 pyro-bolts had to blow to release MER A/B. While this too is complex, thorough testing & design procedures should see this successfully on the surface of Mars, ready to AMAZE!
psycotria 3 months ago
This landing sequence is MUCH too complex! Who green-lighted this hack job? What happened to the spirit of simplicity that fostered the success of the last rover team?
skadar 3 months ago
@skadar But what will you say if they succeed? Let's talk again on August 7th, 2012.
VideoFromSpace 3 months ago 7
@skadar The opinions of a professional kibitzer, while colorful, lack the value of the opinions of a professional engineer.
If it will help, you should patrol the aisles of Wal-Mart and proffer your blandishments to a more suitable audience.
dantopa 3 months ago
@skadar curiosity is much heavier then the last and we cant deploy, "air bags" to cushion its landing.
DevilGTP97 3 months ago
@skadar The Spirit landing technique can’t handle the weight of Curiosity. This new technique have been tested many times and it works
mhyar 3 months ago
@skadar Try a little research before criticizing. From wikipedia: [..] the atmosphere is too thin for parachutes and aerobraking alone to be effective.[97] Although some previous missions have used airbags to cushion the shock of landing, the MSL is too large for this to be an option.
ANDSENS 2 months ago
In a couple of years we went from tossing a bouncy ball with a rover inside to a rocket crane lowering a nuclear powered science lab and to think what would come sooner if NASA's budget was larger...
quadpod 3 months ago 7
@quadpod Or if the science budget had been properly managed; or if we hadn't spent so much effort employing an army to send a few humans to LEO a few times a year; or if...
VideoFromSpace 3 months ago
Very cool, hopefully everything goes ok. I've always wondered about weather. Can it handle a violent martian storm?
gbarnes4401 3 months ago
@gbarnes4401 The Martian atmosphere is so thin, even the strongest storms don't have much force compared with those in Earth's atmosphere. Curiosity's ancestors, Spirit & Opportunity, found that the occasional passing dust devil would, in fact, clear their solar panels of dust, leaving them more efficient. And the low Martian temperatures are better for digital cameras than average Earth temps. Turns out Mars is a pretty nice place to be a robot.
VideoFromSpace 3 months ago 7
come on ....it's not going to work
gitarysk 3 months ago
gogo find new forms of life so we can fight it!!!
SirSneakE 3 months ago
AMAZING stuff
chrishsustudio 3 months ago
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imjustpassinthru 3 months ago
There are a lot of very critical operations that have to take place at exactly the right time to land this one. Could they have made it simpler? I don't know. At least NASA has a pretty good success rate with Martian rovers so far. I just hope Curiosity arrives on Mars fully functional and ready to roll.
midiout 3 months ago
@midiout it's not going to work
gitarysk 3 months ago
Curiosity is much heavier than the previous rovers. The balloons required for a craft this size would be too heavy, so they came up with a different landing system, but it should work. The rover is nuclear powered, and is designed to last a lot longer.
midiout 3 months ago
EWAdams 3 months ago
@EWAdams Well, Spirit and Opportunity had to deal with 1, 3, 4, 5, 7, plus the airbags deploying successfully and they worked fine.
kedquist 3 months ago
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kedquist 3 months ago
This seems overly complex for a landing. The former rovers were landed with balloons attached to it, bouncing on the surface. It's much simpler then this system, with less chance of failure.
DoggySpew 3 months ago
@DoggySpew MSL is too big for those airbags.
kedquist 3 months ago
I don't see any solar panels, hows it powered? Also, some faith in humanity has been restored.
Rhombi485 3 months ago
This just in: NASA HAS BUILT A FREAKING MARS DROPSHIP.
SingularlyDatarific 3 months ago
the audio has de-synced, it's a common issue.
heavydude11 3 months ago
WHY SO GLITCHY
allseriousness 3 months ago 21
How does the parachute work if there's no oxygen?
squemish51 3 months ago
@squemish51 air doesn't need to have oxygen in it to be dense enough to allow for a parachute.. Almost any gas would work
kragtik 3 months ago
@kragtik oh ok.
squemish51 3 months ago
@squemish51 Oxygen is just the gas we need for breathing. Parachutes would work in any gas, in Mars' case, 95% Carbon Dioxide. The concept of a parachute has nothing to do with which gas it uses, pretty much by definition, according to the Ideal Gas Law.
JoachimVR 3 months ago
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what happened to descent stage? it flew off to crash somewhere?
cat2cube 3 months ago
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cat2cube 3 months ago
And how the information returns?
LerryLand 6 months ago
@LerryLand Curiosity is carrying a payload of over 5,000 carrier pigeons that will relay the information back to Earth one at a time
oorahaf 5 months ago
Has Curiosity been launched yet?
Legionari3 8 months ago
@Legionari3
No Its scheduled for a November 2011 launch.
VideoFromSpace 8 months ago 5
@Legionari3 Yes, it was launched already :)
PhillyDippy5 3 months ago