Everything is a waste of tax payers money according to the public... I think they do a good job, and police officers shouldn't have to spend their time attending breakdowns and minor blockages in the carriageway. I would like to see more traffic cops out and about though.
really pissed off by that cop programme where a paki squirmed out of being nicked for using a mobile while driving by hiding his mobile in his cab and the useless cops couldent find it even though they saw him at point blank range. they should have searched until there was nothing left of the cab and charged him with the mobile offence and perverting the course of justice. PAKIS ARE LAUGHING AT THE HIGHWAY CODE.
These people cause grief with traffic jams and cars building up behind their vehicles like a domino effect when driving on the motorway as from a distance they have similar fluorescent stripes to police cars and people brake hard. I've seen it a million times and although they may do a good service, they should not have the same fluorescent stripes as the police or anything similar. I've even seen general construction type vans/cars with police stripes and this should also be prohibited.
Legalise medical Cannabis - almost unbelievable amount of time for police would be free'd up. Cannabis: a billion dollar industry - decriminalized . now there's a job creator / economy booster if ever there was ...and it's non toxic .... know this - not one recorded death from Cannabis , ...ever ! Leaf: /watch?v=qa0nLdVJiIg cannabisinternational [dot] org] perhaps read ' jack herer's - the emperor wears no clothes . google: LEAP rick simpson essiachemplaetrile
I was a police officer doing Control Room administration for 6 years.......when I retired I applied for the HATO Control room staff..........I was rejected because I was overqualified.
Thank God..Ive now got a proper job........
Im not sure but get the impression that these HATO vehciles are not allowed to go faster than 60mph...to save getting involved with offences of speeding drivers doing 70 + mph.
I love them - when I get close enough to see the 'traffic officer' sign (or the wrong colour retroreflective) and put my foot down again.
To be fair they are quite useful when towing a smashed car off the carriageway onto hard shoulder/verge to get traffic flowing again- more than plod would do in their Merc E class....
@ 2:02 I'm so glad that traffic guy is putting up a little arrow sign. As I would have never seen the two huge dayglo 4x4's and the police car with all their flashing lights.
Jamie FFS get a shirt that fits a shave and sit up - Do these cocks go home feeling they've made a difference or do they cringe like the rest of us when they see this pish.
police are made off ppl who cant find work.....basically jobless pricks join the police,,,,
I mean who really wanted to be a copper!!!!! when all options in life fail, times are hard you need money , ppl join the police.....well that what i think anyway
@gunmanscotland "More tax payers money pissed against the wall" there is no money it's an illusion. And the illusion money that you do use goes towards paying off the interest on the never ending national debt <-- did i just say national debt ? oops see how easy it is to be duped ?? what i meant was "the debt" i don't remember agreeing to borrowing from banksters did you ?. Tax payer this Tax payer that is a slave mindset that people should get out of.
Highways Agency are a bunch of jumped up knob heads. They have no authority and should all be sacked to save money. I had a row with one and told him to go get a propper copper who then agreed that I was right all along and bollocked the womble who was then well pissed off. LOSERS!
Why do they always employ fragile little women? Imagine if a truck's webbing breaks and ten 50 kilo boxes are strewn across the road. You need someone with some muscle doing jobs like this. Typical political correctness employing people who aren't actually up to the job.
@marshancars No my friend, its not about money. You will notice a rise in these plastic authorities because when the world wars kick off, they will be doing the policing and the feds will be dealing with the more serious shit, like flus and viruses.
actually I think the HATO's are a good idea, surely doing trivial jobs that the police would otherwise have to do means the police have more free time to do the more important things, also if there is an accident it means the police can just clear the scene and leave to get on with their job while the HATO's clean up. personally i've had very good experiences with HATO's when I've broken down and i think that its probably better for them help me when ive broken down than the police.
i get the feeling its part of this plan to gradually try to give powers to people other than the police...see if they are given more powers in the future..same with the military...soon people on the street and traffic wardens etc will be given apparent power of arrest over other people. what do you think?
These people have no long term experience of working with traffic, most are just dole people & they are not a success at what they do ask your local Police and watch the Police smile when they give a response to this question, etc...and they are dangerous to work with HATO's & are just a PR stunt that has gone wrong. I guess it will be a matter of time before the Term Maintenance Contractors take them under their umbrella, that is what I am pushing for, then they will earn their money...
customers? what is this about? oh so now because you want to exercise your right as a human being to travel around you are suddenly a customer? this kind of language is so ridiculous.
@all the wombles, good luck with your cut backs....next time your in McDonalds, as you often seem to be, ask for an application form....or just pick the litter up. As many many people have said, including parliament ( read hansard )....most think your pants and a costly set of pants at that.
Oh, if I brakedown or have an accident in lane 3,2,1 I will wait for someone with blue lights to come to my aid....or I will just simply get out of my car. I'm a big boy now thank you and don't need some p
still awaiting for crime ref number from the police for the theaft of looting by police tax,fuel,gas,metal, wheels, and M.O.T tax,shoping food, CD player, phone, reported it to police but they will not give a crime ref number. eye rang the other S.O.S THEAFS they gave eye a number of the one who called the S.O.S to take the car from my drive way of my house.
Before i got my job at the highways agency i was employed at my local supermarket, my main responsibilities were to cone off the isle and quickly deploy a mop after any major incident, such as a customer dropping any type of glass container causing spillage. My experiences with the use of the rapid response spillage equipment clinched it for me at the interview.
@cwbunker incident support unit all the way.35-40k per year and most of the time you lot stand us down.ha ha.the big boys(isu)come in when it gets tough.when you guys getting your galaxys and going singled crewed? I think you will need isu then won't you.oh and by the way,isu deal with traffic management not hatos.we are currently being trained to do our own blocks for when you go single crewed.ask a isu operative to look at the convoy and red x sign on the ipv.see for yourself
What a load of ill-informed Jeremy Clarkson admirers! The last "crisp packet" that I stopped traffic to retrieve, was actually an 80 to 100lb piece of metal that had fallen from an LGV and damaged a number of cars, fortunately no motorcyclists had hit this "crisp packet" before it was removed - you can imagine the consequences. As for having no powers, I suggest that you read the Highway code or the road traffic act 2004. Muppets? 1100 people applied for my job - just call me kermit
Why not just create a highway police service that deals only with the highways and when something serious happened it would be turned over to local police.
@evil10 There is a police unti that deals solely with roads - there always has been been - Google 'Roads Policing Unit'. They used to be called 'Traffic Division'.
ha is hopeless they are doing a road here and have millions of cones and nobody there doing anything.they also admitted to the commons that they didnt know if they gave value for money .mindboggling!!
my god, all they do is drive about in bumble-bee trucks, why dont they pick up litter as well, give them something to do. Wait until a new goverment comes in, these muppets will be long gone.....unless they can be used to pick up the litter on the m/way, now thats value for money
@dahonis i believe that near the end of the vid that it says the clear debris(but would they class litter as debris ,i would but would they) from the motorway ,but i know what you mean they could have spent the money on somthing more effective ,this is a con to make the statistics look good on paper to justify more funding for the next year ...they think the public are stupid,its just another corportation for a wealthy son of a wealthy family to get to run a company..ino
@dahonis come the day you break down in lane 3 of the motorway or you are involved in an accident you might just think again, try asking the millions who have been in this situation, with traffic passing at 70+ whilst there stranded in a running lane, or someone broken down with no recovery in place or a vulnerable passenger on board and the traffic officers are first on scene, try asking if they think the hato's do a good job.....think they would all be greatfull they are there.
Even the word 'customer' is a statutory (legal/juristic/commercial) term. It's 'words of art' that the legal system uses to confuse and confound us. Best way to win is to not participate at all. Total non-compliance is a good place to start.
These people are only there because of a Blair gimmick to get people off the dole. These people are just a set of hazard lights mounted to a 4x4. Like the un have never stopped a war these muppets have never stopped a traffic jam!!
There are "for" comments saying they deal with fatal accidents, clean up and help people who breakdown.
My last post I said the majority of drivers and riders have breakdown cover. I'd also add that they cannot deal with fatal RTA's which is rubbish, only the emergency services can do that. The medical supplies shown in the clip seem to be tissues wipes and plasters!
But theres always the cleaning up!
I agree that they're needed but not in the numbers there are!
lol.... you guys are funny. these are just support service people..no need to worry about them unless you are guilty of something you dont want known. break down on the roadway and see how fast you wish one of these guys to show up.
I do agree with what ''enddebtslavery'' is saying, but I think the idea of the Highways Agency staff is a good one, it is the only one I agree with, because they will help broken down motorists if they have run out of fuel, and in a situation like that it is helpful to have that support, especially if you are a woman on your own whith children and you are stranded. It helps to have people nearby who are coming to help you.
"Wombals" have got powers to reomve vehicles and stop vehicles. They also have a umber of other powers to their disposal if they wish to use them but most of the time they try to ort the situtation out before using these powers. Wait until you need the assistance of them before you judge their existance.
What the hell is wrong with this country? we have this uncomfortable obsession with training more and more people who want to tell us what to do or what not to do, Traffic wardens,security guards,doormen,health and safety busy bodies,plastic cops,station guards,council snoops etcetc and now these muppets. The government is breeding a self policing state while 'real' cops go around fining people, chasing them in sports cars and helicopters. Give any idiot a yellow vest and and they're authority!!
Your comment is misplaced - HATO's don't & can't tell you what to do.
What I find odd is that those who claim we are creating a 'big brother' state with more controls, seem to miss the fact that power out on the streets has become diluted with less warranted officers. How can control be exerted with increasingly fewer bodies with the power to make it happen?
@cwbunker You started it - you made a statement with zero qualification, no explanation as to what you believe my previous comment lacked?
Perhaps you can elaborate now I have your full attention?
I will add, that your attitude & literary delivery instantly point to why you have such a miserable occupation & I thank good fortune that most constabularies currently have a recruitment freeze in place.
This does help us free up time rather than having to stop for hazards such as breakdowns. We can deal with serious emergencies and the stopping of dangerous suspects with all the police resources we have, not having 2 patrol cars stopped looking after someone who has broken down and picking up debris that could potentially be a hazard...
they can, as can any member of the public, report traffic offences to the police, and then can act as a witness, so actually you are wrong, but they do not have any speed detection device on board so you can usually get away with a bit of excess speed! :)
I think they should go back to wimbledon common where these wombles are from . they are a total waste of space and money. and how can the goverment bang on about carbon footprint yet they give these wasters 4x4's to drive up and down looking for stray crisp packets blowing on the motorway
lol. you make me laugh! lets hope they dont have to deal with you & "waste their time" if you breakdown or have an RTC....you would be glad of their help!
@dadie78 I hope you never hit any debris in the carageway whilst traveling at 70mph, the destruction that can cause is frightning, what would you suggest, for example a large length of steel falls from a HGV should it just be left in lane 3 to cause a multi car pile up causing many injuries, damage and even greater delays ........hmmmmm think not, look at the bigger picture, 1 day it might be you who needs our help....
Mmm think some of you need to look at the Traffic Management Act...they now how the power to stop a vehicle if load is unsafe..they can remove abandoned vehicles,they have the power to stop and direct traffic...The act is left open ended and this is for a reason, me thinks!!
They have the power to do absolutely nothing, cardboard coppers. They can maybe help you change a tyre or pick up a crisp packet in the road which we pay for.
Yet still English roads are probably now some of the worst, pots holes, speed bumps, sunken manholes.
I'd rather get them fixed than pay someone to do pretty much nothing !
I know a few of them & they do a fantastic job. Some are ex police. NONE of them want/pretend to be Police. They have dealt with serious fatals, cleared debris from live lane to minimise more RTCs & they are generally a good bunch as they keep traffic moving
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HATO's are out to replace Police. They can do thing and as long as their role stays THE WAY IT IS NOW, it's a good idea. I do not want Police having their responsibilities taken away, after all, thats why there are traffic cops, they patrol the highways so the whole point of HATO's is slightly weird. They really are just highway PCSO's who drive vehicles made to look to Police cars to those who dnt know the difference til they put the yellow lights on, sad.
I do not 'slag off' people who put their lives at risk - although it is their choice to undertake this role.
I believe that the money would have been better spent in road traffic policing. The HATO's were designed to provide a highly visible presence - at half the price of a Police Officer. However, since they are always double crewed and Police cars are usually single crewed there is no gain - only the loss of the Police Officers training, experience and law enforcement duties...
Please be more patronising and I'll crank up the sarcasm...
Of course I realise how duties are divided under the Traffic Management Act 2004. My point is that until this new legislation the Police looked after both which ensured their regular presence on the roads. This meant better lane discipline, slower speeds and more conscientious driving all round.
Drive past a Police car and your driving improves for a long distance - people ignore HATO's and speed up straight after the cameras...
I totally agree with AdeliaTV, driving standards today are appalling and it the standard of driving that creates most traffic problems on our motorways. Therefore spend the money more wisley on traffic police not HATO's, who when the public see them speed past them and ignore them as they cannot do anything.
RPU units (police traffic units) are habitually double crewed due to the nature of the job, in other words, during a pursuit one drives, the other uses the radio. They are teams of two, each allocated a long-term partner. On the occasions you see a lone officer, his/her partner is off sick, on annual leave, on a course.
Police do have the power to 'remove' uninsured drivers by taking their vehicle away at the scene.
@AdeliaTV you actualy have no idea what you are talking about, as a hato my self you are talking absolute rubish my friend, one reason the traffic officer service was born was due to the fact that the Police couldnt deal with the traffic management side of things, and as someone has already mentiond Police deal with crime not traffic management. The police are still present but can now concentrate on those who commit crime.
@AdeliaTV Your opinion makes no sense. The entire point of HATOS is to take the pressure off traffic police for the more minor things that they didn't necessarily have to deal with, so that they can be free for the more police-appropriate duties.
@AdeliaTV Your right and it sounds like HATO's are the way forward, who wants some up their own arse PC talking down to you because you was going 10mph faster than they like.
@mattgw1973 Not true, the RPU have a range of responsibilities alongside 'crime'. They also attend RTC's with a view to establishing cause & the taking of statements, in addition to maintaining continuity of evidence in the light of an inquest. Not all RTC's are connected to an associated crime.
Surely the question should be: are the HATO's value for money? I was told that it cost £113m to implement the change over to Highways Agency Management - how far would that money go if handed over to Police Traffic Departments?
It certainly wouldn't go into traffic management. I did hear, that the revenue retrieved by claims against drivers insurances that damage roadside unfrastructure, nearly pays for the HATO service on it's own. This is because when the police were responsible for the green claim (more paperwork) only approx 15% got done, (lots of reasons why) now the percentage retrieved is around 85%.
I can't point you to any articale saying this, it's just something that I heard (& maybe wasn't supposed to!)
I've heard something similar myself - not sure if these green claims could really account for so much cash but is a fair point.
However, the motorist still pays - through our insurance premiums. I would prefer that Police Traffic Officers were properly funded and were able to remove dangerous drivers and uninsured vehicles...
I'm sure Police Officers would be happy to fill in the green forms if they had the resources the Highways Agency enjoys...
But now the police do have time to remove dangerous vehicles and uninsured drivers !!!
The one thing that limits all police officers is the amount of paperwork they have to fill in and also which targets they require all set by the government...
good point but i would rather give the Traffic officers durisdiction to act therfore it saves time as it means the TO's can act rather than just try and get hold of a police officer on the motorway
The claims pay for the damage and nothing more. That's the physical damage. NOT the time of the traffic officers.
As for the resources... its a completely different way of funding...
The highways agency is funded centrally. (Direct from the DFT) Where as of course the police forces are paid for locally (hence county forces, and the bit on your council tax bill that tells you how much went to the Police...?)
A county force could never expect to be able to pay for the running of the motorway. Oh and please bear in mind that Highways Traffic officers are paid less to do the jobs that police officers used to do......
if that money was handed out to police traffic departments you would have them dealing with debris,accidents etc and not with crime...surely thats what they are there for ????
personally I take offence at your comment re 'just contractors' because a- as you are civil servants we pay your salary through our taxes and b-our renumeration is superior to yours so I think we should be afforded more respect! if your statement is an example of the customer service ideal within your organisation god help the road using public!
My statement was in direct reply to you comment, I think on whole you guys do a good job. My statement does not in anyway have any binding to the customer service that we provide and as you know it is second to none on the road, remember, you are the drivers friend...not foe.
its very well going on about the highways agency traffic officers but what about the original Incident support unit. The I.S.U's are much more well equipped to deal with accidents and should be given back there original powers so they can deal with accidents without HATO's being there. This was the case before the traffic officers were introduced.
Everything is a waste of tax payers money according to the public... I think they do a good job, and police officers shouldn't have to spend their time attending breakdowns and minor blockages in the carriageway. I would like to see more traffic cops out and about though.
04smallmj 21 hours ago
really pissed off by that cop programme where a paki squirmed out of being nicked for using a mobile while driving by hiding his mobile in his cab and the useless cops couldent find it even though they saw him at point blank range. they should have searched until there was nothing left of the cab and charged him with the mobile offence and perverting the course of justice. PAKIS ARE LAUGHING AT THE HIGHWAY CODE.
birdandthe 1 day ago
ponyo?
TheSexualSilence 1 week ago
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lollygaggle 1 week ago
parasites
TheSexualSilence 1 week ago
a manager with epaullettes they dont really get this uniform lark do they?
dontwantachannelever 2 weeks ago
a complete waste of money.what a fucking joke
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PCSO's on wheels!
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4crevis 2 weeks ago
These people cause grief with traffic jams and cars building up behind their vehicles like a domino effect when driving on the motorway as from a distance they have similar fluorescent stripes to police cars and people brake hard. I've seen it a million times and although they may do a good service, they should not have the same fluorescent stripes as the police or anything similar. I've even seen general construction type vans/cars with police stripes and this should also be prohibited.
trancehi 2 weeks ago
Disgusting waste of taxpayers money, bunch of wanne be plods
badgern100 3 weeks ago
VonLeachim 3 weeks ago
They are putting Gurkhas on the dole people, Sailors and Soldiers and Aircrew redundant BRITAIN, EH?
ChristyOFezbugle 1 month ago
I was a police officer doing Control Room administration for 6 years.......when I retired I applied for the HATO Control room staff..........I was rejected because I was overqualified.
Thank God..Ive now got a proper job........
Im not sure but get the impression that these HATO vehciles are not allowed to go faster than 60mph...to save getting involved with offences of speeding drivers doing 70 + mph.
hertzvanrental100 1 month ago
I love them - when I get close enough to see the 'traffic officer' sign (or the wrong colour retroreflective) and put my foot down again.
To be fair they are quite useful when towing a smashed car off the carriageway onto hard shoulder/verge to get traffic flowing again- more than plod would do in their Merc E class....
jonkayaking 1 month ago
remember that failure to follow or obey instruction from these guys carries a 3 penalty point endorsement,,
mortgagewizard40 1 month ago
@mortgagewizard40 is it a law or an order.?
foxone1974 1 month ago
@mortgagewizard40 What like an instruction to take your pants down. Wake up you twat.
jimthecrim 1 month ago
@mortgagewizard40 fuck them
transitcoffin 3 weeks ago
Jobsworths
Tzimnewman3 1 month ago
Great a free public funded recovery service & i bet the cones in the back of their 4x4 cost £400 each to the tax payer
jayofmeth 1 month ago
wanna be police
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I quit listening at "no enforcement powers". I wonder, is becoming rude an option? Do they have the power to make a citizen's arrest?
"I can't see you, I can't see you, faster, faster, faster, off the road!! Oh, them? I thought those were some ugly white gangsters trying to kill me."
SheikhTaqiyyameister 1 month ago
Why would these HATOs want to use police like uniforms.....reject high speed cops???
macbrack04 1 month ago
@ 2:02 I'm so glad that traffic guy is putting up a little arrow sign. As I would have never seen the two huge dayglo 4x4's and the police car with all their flashing lights.
bennyc333 1 month ago
Jamie FFS get a shirt that fits a shave and sit up - Do these cocks go home feeling they've made a difference or do they cringe like the rest of us when they see this pish.
DavedandConfused72 1 month ago
Total waste of space, wanna be plods
badgern100 1 month ago 7
'We've Been Out On The Road For Three Years' - Go And Have A Break Man!
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police are made off ppl who cant find work.....basically jobless pricks join the police,,,,
I mean who really wanted to be a copper!!!!! when all options in life fail, times are hard you need money , ppl join the police.....well that what i think anyway
P14YCR 2 months ago
More tax payers money pissed against the wall
gunmanscotland 2 months ago 14
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thetableswillturn 1 week ago
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@gunmanscotland "More tax payers money pissed against the wall" there is no money it's an illusion. And the illusion money that you do use goes towards paying off the interest on the never ending national debt <-- did i just say national debt ? oops see how easy it is to be duped ?? what i meant was "the debt" i don't remember agreeing to borrowing from banksters did you ?. Tax payer this Tax payer that is a slave mindset that people should get out of.
thetableswillturn 1 week ago
@gunmanscotland They are saving a fortune by paying half the price that a police officer would cost.
sparkygl0s 1 week ago
Everyones A Customer Friend £££££ mmmmmm Jammie
matthewmc01 2 months ago
Just LISTEN to the way everyone in "jobs" in the UK speak now - they all speak in the same trained-in platitudes of the "New way" future.
Brainwashing completed.
CodeTwo2 2 months ago 2
the WHITE coller criminals thugs
kevrs2 2 months ago
Ian Lennock called policing a buisness. NO its Not
Billyg215 2 months ago
Just means you don't have to worry as much about getting caught speeding because you've got these dudes nobbing about instead of real police.
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Q3ToPBuZz 2 months ago
Highways Agency are a bunch of jumped up knob heads. They have no authority and should all be sacked to save money. I had a row with one and told him to go get a propper copper who then agreed that I was right all along and bollocked the womble who was then well pissed off. LOSERS!
bolloxcuntass 2 months ago
@bolloxcuntass Agree, They don't half make a mountain out of a mole hill.
MrSilverfox333 2 months ago
Why do they always employ fragile little women? Imagine if a truck's webbing breaks and ten 50 kilo boxes are strewn across the road. You need someone with some muscle doing jobs like this. Typical political correctness employing people who aren't actually up to the job.
whitbyjet65 2 months ago
@whitbyjet65 Believe me some of them aren't little!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
computerrage 2 months ago
@computerrage Believe me, as a professional driver, 99% of the ones I see ARE small.
whitbyjet65 2 months ago
The goverment loves to find ways of reducing police wages lol they are now using bouncers with SIA licenses to detain people.
PCSO save thousands in police wage bills lol unlucky copper.
marshancars 3 months ago
@marshancars No my friend, its not about money. You will notice a rise in these plastic authorities because when the world wars kick off, they will be doing the policing and the feds will be dealing with the more serious shit, like flus and viruses.
Mark my words
bleepbleep1234 3 months ago
Sub-contracting out to private corporations. That's why road users are customers. Oh, and they sub-contract out to the recovery companies too.
WeAreChangeTelford 3 months ago
actually I think the HATO's are a good idea, surely doing trivial jobs that the police would otherwise have to do means the police have more free time to do the more important things, also if there is an accident it means the police can just clear the scene and leave to get on with their job while the HATO's clean up. personally i've had very good experiences with HATO's when I've broken down and i think that its probably better for them help me when ive broken down than the police.
lightningrabbit010k 3 months ago 2
i get the feeling its part of this plan to gradually try to give powers to people other than the police...see if they are given more powers in the future..same with the military...soon people on the street and traffic wardens etc will be given apparent power of arrest over other people. what do you think?
sirbenofboing 3 months ago
@sirbenofboing The day a traffic warden gets power... Ill drag him into a back alley and set him alight.
SuPrAmAd101 3 months ago
These people have no long term experience of working with traffic, most are just dole people & they are not a success at what they do ask your local Police and watch the Police smile when they give a response to this question, etc...and they are dangerous to work with HATO's & are just a PR stunt that has gone wrong. I guess it will be a matter of time before the Term Maintenance Contractors take them under their umbrella, that is what I am pushing for, then they will earn their money...
AmbushSoD 3 months ago
highways agency do have powers. Power to stop / direct traffic.
lightningpete 3 months ago
customers? what is this about? oh so now because you want to exercise your right as a human being to travel around you are suddenly a customer? this kind of language is so ridiculous.
rodjames98 4 months ago
@all the wombles, good luck with your cut backs....next time your in McDonalds, as you often seem to be, ask for an application form....or just pick the litter up. As many many people have said, including parliament ( read hansard )....most think your pants and a costly set of pants at that.
Oh, if I brakedown or have an accident in lane 3,2,1 I will wait for someone with blue lights to come to my aid....or I will just simply get out of my car. I'm a big boy now thank you and don't need some p
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still awaiting for crime ref number from the police for the theaft of looting by police tax,fuel,gas,metal, wheels, and M.O.T tax,shoping food, CD player, phone, reported it to police but they will not give a crime ref number. eye rang the other S.O.S THEAFS they gave eye a number of the one who called the S.O.S to take the car from my drive way of my house.
wingully 6 months ago
@rugbymania2008 They can actually pull you over. Only if your car is towing a plough down the road or is falling apart on the road though
ARAtrainingVideos 10 months ago
Before i got my job at the highways agency i was employed at my local supermarket, my main responsibilities were to cone off the isle and quickly deploy a mop after any major incident, such as a customer dropping any type of glass container causing spillage. My experiences with the use of the rapid response spillage equipment clinched it for me at the interview.
jochen538 1 year ago
@cwbunker incident support unit all the way.35-40k per year and most of the time you lot stand us down.ha ha.the big boys(isu)come in when it gets tough.when you guys getting your galaxys and going singled crewed? I think you will need isu then won't you.oh and by the way,isu deal with traffic management not hatos.we are currently being trained to do our own blocks for when you go single crewed.ask a isu operative to look at the convoy and red x sign on the ipv.see for yourself
thaiboxer1232 1 year ago
remember your a TRAFFIC WOMBLE
alatchford 1 year ago
@rugbymania2008 we have direct contact with the motorway police so wouldnt speed up if I we're you
cwbunker 1 year ago
tossers
badgern 1 year ago
What a load of ill-informed Jeremy Clarkson admirers! The last "crisp packet" that I stopped traffic to retrieve, was actually an 80 to 100lb piece of metal that had fallen from an LGV and damaged a number of cars, fortunately no motorcyclists had hit this "crisp packet" before it was removed - you can imagine the consequences. As for having no powers, I suggest that you read the Highway code or the road traffic act 2004. Muppets? 1100 people applied for my job - just call me kermit
pjr1525 1 year ago
...Underground, overground, wombleing free...
Naw, look at Orinoco at 01:12 XD
HewardPhillips 1 year ago
Why not just create a highway police service that deals only with the highways and when something serious happened it would be turned over to local police.
evil10 1 year ago
@evil10 There is a police unti that deals solely with roads - there always has been been - Google 'Roads Policing Unit'. They used to be called 'Traffic Division'.
CrossChannelFairy 1 year ago
ha is hopeless they are doing a road here and have millions of cones and nobody there doing anything.they also admitted to the commons that they didnt know if they gave value for money .mindboggling!!
hexhamman 1 year ago
my god, all they do is drive about in bumble-bee trucks, why dont they pick up litter as well, give them something to do. Wait until a new goverment comes in, these muppets will be long gone.....unless they can be used to pick up the litter on the m/way, now thats value for money
dahonis 1 year ago
@dahonis do you want to pick litter up from your street daily ? .
nikjnr1 1 year ago
@dahonis i believe that near the end of the vid that it says the clear debris(but would they class litter as debris ,i would but would they) from the motorway ,but i know what you mean they could have spent the money on somthing more effective ,this is a con to make the statistics look good on paper to justify more funding for the next year ...they think the public are stupid,its just another corportation for a wealthy son of a wealthy family to get to run a company..ino
reksub10 1 year ago
@dahonis come the day you break down in lane 3 of the motorway or you are involved in an accident you might just think again, try asking the millions who have been in this situation, with traffic passing at 70+ whilst there stranded in a running lane, or someone broken down with no recovery in place or a vulnerable passenger on board and the traffic officers are first on scene, try asking if they think the hato's do a good job.....think they would all be greatfull they are there.
cwbunker 1 year ago
Even the word 'customer' is a statutory (legal/juristic/commercial) term. It's 'words of art' that the legal system uses to confuse and confound us. Best way to win is to not participate at all. Total non-compliance is a good place to start.
AceOfHeart2012 2 years ago
These people are only there because of a Blair gimmick to get people off the dole. These people are just a set of hazard lights mounted to a 4x4. Like the un have never stopped a war these muppets have never stopped a traffic jam!!
jochen538 2 years ago
@jochen538 wrong......u muppet
cwbunker 1 year ago
There are "for" comments saying they deal with fatal accidents, clean up and help people who breakdown.
My last post I said the majority of drivers and riders have breakdown cover. I'd also add that they cannot deal with fatal RTA's which is rubbish, only the emergency services can do that. The medical supplies shown in the clip seem to be tissues wipes and plasters!
But theres always the cleaning up!
I agree that they're needed but not in the numbers there are!
bagbag1978 2 years ago
lol.... you guys are funny. these are just support service people..no need to worry about them unless you are guilty of something you dont want known. break down on the roadway and see how fast you wish one of these guys to show up.
badge764 2 years ago
I do agree with what ''enddebtslavery'' is saying, but I think the idea of the Highways Agency staff is a good one, it is the only one I agree with, because they will help broken down motorists if they have run out of fuel, and in a situation like that it is helpful to have that support, especially if you are a woman on your own whith children and you are stranded. It helps to have people nearby who are coming to help you.
smilly9 2 years ago
well said!
FerretloverUK 2 years ago
But the majority of drivers and riders have fully comp insurance with breakdown cover or pay for aa, rac, greenflag etc!
bagbag1978 2 years ago
Thats true.
smilly9 2 years ago
@bagbag1978 I am a HATO AND no they dont you would be amazed at the number of people out ther with no recovery in place
cwbunker 1 year ago
"Wombals" have got powers to reomve vehicles and stop vehicles. They also have a umber of other powers to their disposal if they wish to use them but most of the time they try to ort the situtation out before using these powers. Wait until you need the assistance of them before you judge their existance.
rew217 2 years ago
@rew217 WELL SAID
cwbunker 1 year ago
What the hell is wrong with this country? we have this uncomfortable obsession with training more and more people who want to tell us what to do or what not to do, Traffic wardens,security guards,doormen,health and safety busy bodies,plastic cops,station guards,council snoops etcetc and now these muppets. The government is breeding a self policing state while 'real' cops go around fining people, chasing them in sports cars and helicopters. Give any idiot a yellow vest and and they're authority!!
enddebtslavery 2 years ago
knob lol
Mickygemma 2 years ago
Your comment is misplaced - HATO's don't & can't tell you what to do.
What I find odd is that those who claim we are creating a 'big brother' state with more controls, seem to miss the fact that power out on the streets has become diluted with less warranted officers. How can control be exerted with increasingly fewer bodies with the power to make it happen?
lollygaggle 2 years ago
@lollygaggle REALLY, YOU SHOULD DO A LITTLE MORE RESEARCH
cwbunker 1 year ago
@cwbunker Agreed, my knowledge of plesiolampas is frustratingly sketchy despite having a degree in paleontology.
lollygaggle 1 year ago
@lollygaggle what has this extinct creature got to do with this.........
cwbunker 1 year ago
@cwbunker You started it - you made a statement with zero qualification, no explanation as to what you believe my previous comment lacked?
Perhaps you can elaborate now I have your full attention?
I will add, that your attitude & literary delivery instantly point to why you have such a miserable occupation & I thank good fortune that most constabularies currently have a recruitment freeze in place.
lollygaggle 1 year ago
@lollygaggle so what about shoes?
TheSexualSilence 1 week ago
@TheSexualSilence Hi, probably best to watch the Japanese sub-titled film 'Ponyo' for an accurate answer.
lollygaggle 1 week ago
This does help us free up time rather than having to stop for hazards such as breakdowns. We can deal with serious emergencies and the stopping of dangerous suspects with all the police resources we have, not having 2 patrol cars stopped looking after someone who has broken down and picking up debris that could potentially be a hazard...
lightningpete 2 years ago
they can, as can any member of the public, report traffic offences to the police, and then can act as a witness, so actually you are wrong, but they do not have any speed detection device on board so you can usually get away with a bit of excess speed! :)
crazyrichf 2 years ago
it depends how fast as they can call the police (same as anyone) if someone is doing stupid, dangerous speeds.
FerretloverUK 2 years ago
I think they should go back to wimbledon common where these wombles are from . they are a total waste of space and money. and how can the goverment bang on about carbon footprint yet they give these wasters 4x4's to drive up and down looking for stray crisp packets blowing on the motorway
dadie78 2 years ago
lol. you make me laugh! lets hope they dont have to deal with you & "waste their time" if you breakdown or have an RTC....you would be glad of their help!
FerretloverUK 2 years ago 2
@dadie78 I hope you never hit any debris in the carageway whilst traveling at 70mph, the destruction that can cause is frightning, what would you suggest, for example a large length of steel falls from a HGV should it just be left in lane 3 to cause a multi car pile up causing many injuries, damage and even greater delays ........hmmmmm think not, look at the bigger picture, 1 day it might be you who needs our help....
cwbunker 1 year ago
Mmm think some of you need to look at the Traffic Management Act...they now how the power to stop a vehicle if load is unsafe..they can remove abandoned vehicles,they have the power to stop and direct traffic...The act is left open ended and this is for a reason, me thinks!!
idlhunter 2 years ago
They have the power to do absolutely nothing, cardboard coppers. They can maybe help you change a tyre or pick up a crisp packet in the road which we pay for.
Yet still English roads are probably now some of the worst, pots holes, speed bumps, sunken manholes.
I'd rather get them fixed than pay someone to do pretty much nothing !
bagbag1978 2 years ago
I know a few of them & they do a fantastic job. Some are ex police. NONE of them want/pretend to be Police. They have dealt with serious fatals, cleared debris from live lane to minimise more RTCs & they are generally a good bunch as they keep traffic moving
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Karsonqes 2 years ago
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HATO's are out to replace Police. They can do thing and as long as their role stays THE WAY IT IS NOW, it's a good idea. I do not want Police having their responsibilities taken away, after all, thats why there are traffic cops, they patrol the highways so the whole point of HATO's is slightly weird. They really are just highway PCSO's who drive vehicles made to look to Police cars to those who dnt know the difference til they put the yellow lights on, sad.
woodywoody21 3 years ago
tut tut maybe a lot of police officers on here would rather deal with traffic management than their real job crime !!!!!!
At the end of the day unless you actually do the job its very hard to comment on it !!!!
mattgw1973 3 years ago
I do not 'slag off' people who put their lives at risk - although it is their choice to undertake this role.
I believe that the money would have been better spent in road traffic policing. The HATO's were designed to provide a highly visible presence - at half the price of a Police Officer. However, since they are always double crewed and Police cars are usually single crewed there is no gain - only the loss of the Police Officers training, experience and law enforcement duties...
AdeliaTV 3 years ago 10
you don't seem to get the point as the police deal with crime !!!! and the HATOS deal with traffic management...two seperate things completely....
mattgw1973 3 years ago 7
Please be more patronising and I'll crank up the sarcasm...
Of course I realise how duties are divided under the Traffic Management Act 2004. My point is that until this new legislation the Police looked after both which ensured their regular presence on the roads. This meant better lane discipline, slower speeds and more conscientious driving all round.
Drive past a Police car and your driving improves for a long distance - people ignore HATO's and speed up straight after the cameras...
AdeliaTV 3 years ago
I totally agree with AdeliaTV, driving standards today are appalling and it the standard of driving that creates most traffic problems on our motorways. Therefore spend the money more wisley on traffic police not HATO's, who when the public see them speed past them and ignore them as they cannot do anything.
cooke79 3 years ago
@AdeliaTV You are misinformed.
RPU units (police traffic units) are habitually double crewed due to the nature of the job, in other words, during a pursuit one drives, the other uses the radio. They are teams of two, each allocated a long-term partner. On the occasions you see a lone officer, his/her partner is off sick, on annual leave, on a course.
Police do have the power to 'remove' uninsured drivers by taking their vehicle away at the scene.
lollygaggle 1 year ago
@AdeliaTV What regular presence are you on about chief? Most of the old bill are sat in cars. You never see them walking the beat.
NIKFANTASTIC 1 year ago
@AdeliaTV you actualy have no idea what you are talking about, as a hato my self you are talking absolute rubish my friend, one reason the traffic officer service was born was due to the fact that the Police couldnt deal with the traffic management side of things, and as someone has already mentiond Police deal with crime not traffic management. The police are still present but can now concentrate on those who commit crime.
cwbunker 1 year ago
@AdeliaTV Your opinion makes no sense. The entire point of HATOS is to take the pressure off traffic police for the more minor things that they didn't necessarily have to deal with, so that they can be free for the more police-appropriate duties.
007RoyalFlush 4 months ago
@AdeliaTV Your right and it sounds like HATO's are the way forward, who wants some up their own arse PC talking down to you because you was going 10mph faster than they like.
h4ppychap 3 months ago
@mattgw1973 Not true, the RPU have a range of responsibilities alongside 'crime'. They also attend RTC's with a view to establishing cause & the taking of statements, in addition to maintaining continuity of evidence in the light of an inquest. Not all RTC's are connected to an associated crime.
lollygaggle 1 year ago
how can you slag people off who put their lives at risk for your safety
mattgw1973 3 years ago
i work with ISU and cant fault them they do a sterling job
mattgw1973 3 years ago
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH
inthemajorkey 3 years ago
Are you laughing out loud or chanting the abbreviation of Highways Agency???
AdeliaTV 3 years ago 2
why are you being angry?
inthemajorkey 3 years ago
oh well at least the hatos stop the fire brigade getting run over as they wander around the carriageway oblivious to the dangers
mattgw1973 3 years ago
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Who stops the HATO's from being run over then as they wander around the carriageway!!!!
cooke79 3 years ago
Informative
sfj642 3 years ago 2
Surely the question should be: are the HATO's value for money? I was told that it cost £113m to implement the change over to Highways Agency Management - how far would that money go if handed over to Police Traffic Departments?
AdeliaTV 3 years ago
It certainly wouldn't go into traffic management. I did hear, that the revenue retrieved by claims against drivers insurances that damage roadside unfrastructure, nearly pays for the HATO service on it's own. This is because when the police were responsible for the green claim (more paperwork) only approx 15% got done, (lots of reasons why) now the percentage retrieved is around 85%.
I can't point you to any articale saying this, it's just something that I heard (& maybe wasn't supposed to!)
c6mut 3 years ago
I've heard something similar myself - not sure if these green claims could really account for so much cash but is a fair point.
However, the motorist still pays - through our insurance premiums. I would prefer that Police Traffic Officers were properly funded and were able to remove dangerous drivers and uninsured vehicles...
I'm sure Police Officers would be happy to fill in the green forms if they had the resources the Highways Agency enjoys...
AdeliaTV 3 years ago
But now the police do have time to remove dangerous vehicles and uninsured drivers !!!
The one thing that limits all police officers is the amount of paperwork they have to fill in and also which targets they require all set by the government...
mattgw1973 3 years ago
good point but i would rather give the Traffic officers durisdiction to act therfore it saves time as it means the TO's can act rather than just try and get hold of a police officer on the motorway
Mattaous5491234 2 years ago
The claims pay for the damage and nothing more. That's the physical damage. NOT the time of the traffic officers.
As for the resources... its a completely different way of funding...
The highways agency is funded centrally. (Direct from the DFT) Where as of course the police forces are paid for locally (hence county forces, and the bit on your council tax bill that tells you how much went to the Police...?)
sire5494 1 year ago
A county force could never expect to be able to pay for the running of the motorway. Oh and please bear in mind that Highways Traffic officers are paid less to do the jobs that police officers used to do......
:o)
sire5494 1 year ago
if that money was handed out to police traffic departments you would have them dealing with debris,accidents etc and not with crime...surely thats what they are there for ????
mattgw1973 3 years ago
@AdeliaTV not very....
cwbunker 1 year ago
ISU and powers, what powers, you never had any or could ever get any due to the fact your just a contractor, not a civil servent.
We are team players, we all work as one, please feel free to try and join us, and not try to mock the good work that we do.
dahonis 3 years ago 2
personally I take offence at your comment re 'just contractors' because a- as you are civil servants we pay your salary through our taxes and b-our renumeration is superior to yours so I think we should be afforded more respect! if your statement is an example of the customer service ideal within your organisation god help the road using public!
yamahapaul 3 years ago 2
My statement was in direct reply to you comment, I think on whole you guys do a good job. My statement does not in anyway have any binding to the customer service that we provide and as you know it is second to none on the road, remember, you are the drivers friend...not foe.
dahonis 3 years ago
You've got to love the Traffic Wombles.
"Get Yer brush out"........
dandyfireman 3 years ago 5
its very well going on about the highways agency traffic officers but what about the original Incident support unit. The I.S.U's are much more well equipped to deal with accidents and should be given back there original powers so they can deal with accidents without HATO's being there. This was the case before the traffic officers were introduced.
clarkenova 3 years ago