Trombone god

[kyuubisharinan3296]

15 atheist people dont believe in this.

[troop82nd]

Is that carnegie hall?



[trombonepio]

Semplicemente impressionante, straordinario. 10 e lode

[PurinSanytee]

Not bad. When he can do Flight of the Bumble Bee, then I'll acknowledge his godlyness.

[andrewmoralez]

@PurinSanytee he can haha

[cysotbone621]

@PurinSanytee it's joe alessi, i'm sure he can. in his sleep.

[Seibukan76]

Dr. Bowman is performing with our college's wind symphony this month. I can't wait!

[srorasco1]

i do but i dont own it i use my private lesson teacher's

[igololrofl]

i wish i could play like that...

[Unvalid626]

since he took it up in th end, it's alessi. That's something he'd do.

[scottiehall]

Yeah ...and this was an encore of the third movement. The mother f'er did it twice in a row ..retarded.

[odjn]

Actually, I'm pretty sure it's written in the score that way. Last year in symphonic band we played it with our trombone prof. doing the solo and he played it the exact same way.

[zonefight]

new york philharmonic principal is Alessi.. : )

[KameronID]

Joseph Alessi, the guy who wrote the Arban for trombone!

[ES942]

Yeah, he's a real jerkwad, I've heard.

[KameronID]

Where'd you here that?

[ES942]

My trombone teacher met him while he was at UMass. That kind of snobby I'm better than everyone attitude, I guess.

[KameronID]

That's cool. I'd like to meet him. I figured some guys like him may have that attitude. I don't like it, but he is better than most.

Do you know Dr. Brian Bowman?

[ES942]

Yeah, that'd be cool. I don't either, but he is.

I don't know him, but I know that he worked with Alessi.

[KameronID]

He's probably the best living Euphonium player. Alessi and he wrote the brass Arban for trombone and euphonium, that may be what you're thinking of.

Early this year he was in Durant (wish I had known) playing a piece written by the music director a the college. He also played Carnival of Venice with one finger! He's amazing.

[srorasco1]

he didnt write it he edited it

[KameronID]

Oh, oops. My bad. I should know that, since I study from it. Do you?

[Khaoslock]

it's not lindberg, he doesn't move around enough to be lindberg.

[mfreeouf]

I think this is Joseph Alessi. I've heard him in person and it sounds more like his articulation. It's too small to see unfortunately. However the video is Labeled "New York Philharmonic Principal Trombone" so that could only be Alessi.

[pronyma]

Alessi is God, Lindberg is only his deciple xD

[pronyma]

yes, i know that this is Lindberg playing...

[jammastermatt]

0.0

[agjebb]

Holy Shit.

[Harimakum]

omg..

i can see the big huge enormous difference between a normal trombonist and a real pro-trombonist..

they are so much better!!

[scottiehall]

The funniest thing about this video is that this is an encore. He played this movement twice in a row. Perfectly, both times. Sickening.

[mikeejm]

wtf? should i kill myself or try to get better at trombone after hearing that?

[krazykrazyk]

OMG!!!!!!!!!!

I'm speechless o__0 - - :O

[Waffl3Pr0ducti0ns]

Took a couple minutes to comment on this cuz i fainted... O.o

[HommeElegant]

this is technically "a tour de force" however the technical ability of this musician is beyond belief! I have been playing the Trb now for 30 years but did not even know you could reach this level of technique and music blending them together so perfectly!

[southern01cowgurl]

wow........thats all i can say........wow

[HeliosTG]

Joseph Alessi = Trombone God

[jazzman09876]

I heard jo play this live a few months ago when he came down to melbourne and did some master classes at Melb. Uni. He's awsome, but I preferred Christian Lindberg's master class. Jo is technically amazing, but he hasn't done much solo work before, only been the principle trombone in the NY phil - therefore he lacks that special quality. just compare his barber of seville to christian's (they're the exact same arrangement) and you'll hear the huge difference - it is HUGE.

[Slancko]

Joe has done plenty of solo work. His career hasn't been based on it like Lindberg's, but still. I love both player's, and they both have their strengths! But I've got to say that Alessi's perfect technical control over the instrument wins me over.

[mikeejm]

well yeah...but Lindberg only does Solos right? Alessi does it all. Which personally makes him that much better

[swiftninja1234]

I want evennessness like that :'[

[dapimp361]

hmm... principal chair new york philharmonic? that wouldnt be joseph alessi would it/

no couldnt be...

[ThaSchwab]

Yes, that is. There's a clearer video of this performance on YouTube, thought there's no picture.

[bach36trombone]

I know the original marking is slower, but the previous two movements are slower, and the piece tightens up a lot and is more fun to listen to at the faster tempo.

[amrein]

Can you hear every note , I can not , but may be you have better ears

[Snookbone]

Probably because of the sound quality on the recording (but I'm not blaming anyone for that) and the acoustic of the hall. It echoes a bit.

I play this piece (slower than this!) and it is very hard to make it clear in a hall like that. It's better for the audience in a smaller room, which is a shame, it's my favourite piece of music.

[amrein]

no it is just to fast the ear is not able to select single notes in such a tempo , so it makes really no sense apart from showing that he is jesus on trombone

[Snookbone]

Actually, point taken, there are some notes that can't be heard...quite...

[ld357]

I was there!

[DancingSpiderman]

Shark Music!

Just went you thot it was safe to swim on the beach...

[amrein]

Ask him why he is not playing the bolero in douple time in orchestra , because he can ha ha !

[amrein]

I don ´t know why trombone player have always to show how fast they can play and not thinking about the music . the piece is written from bourgeois 60-90 one bar , on this recording he is playing 116 .

[scottiehall]

because he can. haha

[Crothwel6470]

Playing fast on the trombone is insanely difficult, because of the movement of the slide, and showing off how fast you can go is our Fun :)

As well as having Note range competitions with the trumpets.

It's fun :)

[tubagirl93]

how the hell do u play that

[bigfatmatt1]

like he plays it. see the trick is to read ahead of what you are playing thus being able to play what is writen......

[bonesteve]

no doubt about it: joe alessi is king. lindberg was fine before joe took over & i certainly enjoy all of my old lindberg cd's.

[RaiderBoneDude]

Lindberg is the best in the world. And this is not an opinion... its a fact. They have World Wide Competition for these things. He did in fact rank first among Joe and Alessi

[Trombone0817]

A) Where? When? I've never heard of such. B) Competitions, even World Class ones(Actually, ESPECIALLY World Class Ones. Listen to the Chopin Piano Competition top 3 or 4 winners, you'll see what I mean; you can't hear much difference in technique), are based on opinion, and opinion alone(On a side note, who would want to JUDGE a competition with those two in it? Yikes). There are plenty of things Lindberg does better than Alessi. Same thing can be said for Alessi.

[Trombone0817]

Besides, I doubt either of them talks about being better than the other all day. (Oh, and excuse the quick reply, I just finished practicing and got online to check messages and what not, and felt like listening to this vid.)

[RaiderBoneDude]

lol its cool man. I know because my uncle's old Baritone instrustor ,Luis Maldonado, went to a world-wide competition and also was the best in the world. He told my uncle, Christian Lindberg was the best in the world at Trombone.

Unfortunatly Luis Maldonado moved from Pharr Texas to the Univerity of Michigan and passed away not long after.

Its some long family stories. But I do know for a fact that there ARE world wide competitions.

[Trombone0817]

I know there are world-wide competitions. ITA holds about 12 of them every year, if I'm not mistaken(They have age limits though). There are just massive problems with saying someone is the best in the world; have you heard every trombonist who's ever played a note? I haven't, And I'm not going to say there's a definitive best unless I have.

[mikeejm]

BOO competitions meaning NOTHING.

[peytonio]

deciding whether joe or christian is better is hard for me... they got different styles... christian is definitely a machine when it comes to speed and accuracy... joe gets more of a heavy, rich sound and makes sure his technique is dead on... their both gods at the tromboner!

trombones rule!

[Kal2021]

trombones pwn

[juturna10]

so does!!! this year im in six grade and we started band and i play trombone and my teacher said i might be transfered to the eith grade band!!!!!!!!!!!

[sinfonian2013]

Good luck!

[PresidentPapili]

yeah, good luck man, that's cool. I got transfered to the higher band too in my 6th grade year (on trombone, what else?). Man, trombones the best damn instrument out there, or as I like to shout during concerts "LETS GO BONERS!"

[Theintwowords]

Good work. That happened to me back in Grade 6. The Grade 8 songs weren't that much harder, unfortunately. It was kind of a let-down.

[Simusic1]

Somebody knows the title of the piece?

thank you

[nemo9439]

Derek Bourgeois - Trombone Concerto - Opus 114

[andypunit]

i got to met joe alessi last week

and he is so amazing

[godoofakeman]

holy...you freakin lucky butt hole lol

[godoofakeman]

ITS JOE ALESSI!!! it hink hes the greatest trombone player whos ever lived because we have a name for him

the joe bot

because when you are nextt o him when hes playing its not human

[ervible]

Sure?? I think the greatest trombone player is Christian Lindberg!!

[GeneralCrow]

I love Christian omg

[bhscat]

joe is better. hands down. Plus he teaches, plays in an orchestra and does solo work. All lindberg does is solo....and look really queerish in his pink pants

[begonurknees576]

that doesnt say anything about the way he plays

[bhscat]

ok well... he plays better. how's that

[begonurknees576]

i guess

[nikdastik18]

i'm just jealous of those who got to witness it live...

[euphfellowship]

Arguing over who's a better player is like arguing over what's the best tv show or movie...both Joe and Christian are marvelous players who excel at different things, and thank God they do! What would the world be like if everyone just wanted to play fast, or everyone just wanted to play the highest, or the lowest, or the loudest, or the softest...what a boring world it would be, musically speaking.

[LL99LL]

He plays amazing, but I prefer other gods.

[Trombone0817]

Jazz playing doesn't take more skills, it takes different skills. Yes, Jazz Players can improv some really hard technical stuff, but do you honestly think that's the first time they've ever played that run? They've played those licks enough times that they're familiar enough with them they don't have to think about how to do it. Same thing here, with Alessi. He's probably played this Concerto a million times. You can't say Jazz Players are better, or Vice Versa. They're two different styles.

[avacadodance]

yeah hes the best technical player....but a jazz musician has way more skills and talent, any one can read notes on a page, it takes talent to play something no ones ever heard and isnt written

[sonata1992]

huh...it's actually harder to play a well written piece.... when you improvise, you stay well within the range of your abilities, but you must work to play a good composition. It's a different type of skill to play jazz. "Classical" is about getting a perfect finished product that's been essentially a collaboration between the composer and the musicians themselves. Jazz is the place where perfection is sacrificed for a different sort of product.

[avacadodance]

........you suk.....

[sonata1992]

?

That's a rather useless statement ;)

meh....I'll leave you alone now....

[avacadodance]

wow you reply frekie fast

[JaZzIzSiK]

I honestly don't care who is the best trombone player in the world. My only complaint is why aren't the jazz greats being mentioned. Not only do they play fast technical and great tone, they have to improv as they go. That is something i bet neither Alessi or Lindberg could hold a torch to Rosolino, Fontana, Winding, Watrous, or Johnson.

[Tojesz]

it's a piece of shit

[GormSim]

Alessi is the best technical player I have ever heard.  Ever. Lindburg has a more warm sound. Now, before panties get twisted, this is NO way of saying either is better then the other, or that either lacks in either of the pre-mentioned departments, just my opinion.

[GormSim]

I studied with James Markey, the Assoc. Principle Trombonist of the NYPhil, and he has a lot of Alessi in him (having been Alessi's student for many years), and I would quite possibly say that I think Alessi is the best.

My opinion. Alessi>Lindburg.

[scottiehall]

Here's my comment.

Both of these trombonists are better than any of you will ever be, so stop trying to compare them. If we really got into the nitty gritty stuff that these guys actually know about the trombone, you guys wouldn't be able to even have a conversation with them. Alessi is arguably the best orchestral trombone player in the world, and Lindberg is arguably the best trombone soloist in the world - and that's arguably; nobody will ever really know.

[CJUpton2006]

well i agree with that. neither of them is better than each other. the point i tried to make was that lindberg is quite probably the best solo trombone player in the world, while alessi kicks ass in orchestral.

and of course we're not as good as these guys. having met lindberg in person and sat in one of his rehersals he is simply amazing. And i'm sure Alessi would be the same.

[CJUpton2006]

i have heard joe alessi recordings. to put it bluntly, he is not better than Linberg. That's my opinion, and whether or not u agree with that is up to you.

[nadacomprende]

porn for trombone players stinks

[pellekopp]

no, it's great! (says the trombone player =P...)

[CJUpton2006]

as far as im concerned, you can't tell if this guy is better than Lindberg by this. You can barely hear the solist, and Lindberg's recording are much clearer. Maybe if I heard more of this guy's recordings...then we would see.

[Burgerbob22]

ROFL! you think you can judge by this recording? i have no opinion either way (they are both great) but jeezuz, this is a freaking camera.

[abusedgnome]

Are you kidding me? If you're a trombone player and you care anything about it, you would have heard many joe alessi recordings. Go to hickeys online and order some of his stuf. He plays this particular solo on Fandango. Before long you'll be masturbating to the sound of Joe..lol

[swiftninja1234]

I like this guy's tone better than lindberg... It sounds more free, and makes me want to make babies on the inside.

[uscbone2009]

Se llama "Concerto for Trombone" por Derek Bourgeois. Esta es la tercera parte.

As far as Alessi/Lindberg is concerned, they come from and have helped shape two entirely different schools of playing, American vs. European. There'll never be a definitive answer on who is better, they're simply too different.

[ervible]

alguien me podria decir como se llama la pieza que está tocando este trombonista???

[Trombone0817]

Personally, I think the Lindberg/Alessi thing is a matter of choice. I like Alessi's tone better (and yes, I've seen both live), myself. Really, you can't go on technique. Anything Lindberg can play, Alessi can, and vice versa(There is no one piece only one trombone player can play. Period).

[Sirtain]

anybody can do the motorcycle. just flutter toungue while moving up the slide

[robegerton]

This sounds like a more exciting rendition of the Bourgeois than Lindberg's - and it's live! Met him once. Lovely chap, but he pulls some odd faces when he plays.

[revoltingmexican]

people who say that alessi is better than lindberg have never actually seen lindberg. The true test of virtuosity is not flight of the bumblebee or all the crap that lindberg is known for. I think, however, if you ever saw lindberg perform the motorbike concerto back in his heyday, you would agree that no one on planet earth could match him.

[scottiehall]

Any good player in the world can make a shit instrument sound like gold.

[LoonyBraze]

UH was that a stab at the trombone??

[BobbyLiebling]

I saw him perform this very same piece with the South Dakota Wind Ensemble on April 4. He is one of the most amazing musicians to have ever played the instrument. He is also a wonderful gentleman and a lovely man. It was very nice to get to meet him and talk to him after the performance.

[matthewharris065]

Honestly, I love Edwards, and I think it sounds good, despite the bad video quality. Have you ever played on an Edwards? There awesome, both Edwards and Shires. In my opinion, they beat the crap out of bach.lol.

[widgetdudi]

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[johnaigi]

In spite of the "muddy" quality of your video, its shame that Joe is not using his "clear" sounding Bach but the rather "muddy" sounding Edwards that have become the norm. of the USA today....HONK! Fads come and go, the tbn world will return to Bachs some day...thank God!

[Michaelmassie]

You are aware that it isn't the horn that really makes the big difference in the sound are you? Yeah you could get it made out of different metals, rose brass, gold brass what have you. But in the end it's still just a piece of metal welded together and put into pipes. People just go with whatever company is the best. For instance, I would buy and Edwards because the whole horn is customizable and is fit to MY playing style and every part is interchangeable.

[jsayreallen]

Not going to happen. As long as Bach is on strike, they will be rubbish. Yamaha is working on a new Zeno that kicks ACE! There are a few prototypes out there - and they are sweet. And the word on the street is that Alessi is on board with Yamaha when the horn is done. Watch out!

[Trombone0817]

Where did you hear that? Alessi has been a featured artist and HUGE fan of Edwards for YEARS...I don't understand this "muddy" stuff. If an Edwards sounds muddy, it's nothing but the player, and personally, I've never heard anything that sounds "muddy." I've heard Wycliffe and Joe Alessi both live before, both of them play Edwards, and I've never heard anything muddy come out of those horns.

[hhandres]

Joe Alessi is simply amazing. Horrible sound quality on the video. Nice to see what positions he uses though.

[herma57]

Joe kicked mjuch trombone ass, the Bumble is a Rumble, so Humble your CRumble to that, the sound here is to Muddddy, do it again, re-take.Start Over

[haredog62]

I'm assuming you folks are not including jazz trombonists on purpose? Thank God aomebody at least mentioned Trudel.

[mhmauad]

excelente trombonista, bravo

[trombonekarma1]

joe alessi has a much better range and a fuller sound than lindberg,but lindberg is probably better technique wise

[pellekopp]

lol, better range than lindberg? ha! i tell you, ha!

probably just as big though..

[mrjones83]

poor quality.. nice playing though :)

[joghull]

Joe Alessi rocks! Although, I'm not sure he's as good a player as Lindberg... But he's a contender for sure.

[TimothyWallaceJoad]

Much better than Lindberg. Lindberg is just a soloist and so he get more credit than he deserves.

[joghull]

I would like to see Alessi pull off Flight of the Bumblebee or Vivaldi's Winter as well as Lindberg (despite the obvious corrections that can be made in the editing room).

[jorobone]

I saw Joe do flight of the bumblebee live as his first encore to a two hour recital. He played it amazingly and then continued to Deux Danses for his second encore. Trombonists in the music world know where the differences lay, and Lindberg is seldom compared to Joe.

[johandemeij]

Playing Bumble Bee is not the "Official" virtuoso test. If a trombone play with musicality, he does the job. Playing Bumble on the trombone is just a way to demonstrate taht the trombone is not as limited as we think. Personnally, Bumble-Bee impresses me a lot when i was a young trombonist but with maturity (and i mature every day), i'm convinced that it's not music.

[KurtNilsen]

alessi doesnt fake like lindberg

[grandert]

True, but on the other hand - Lindberg puts more emphasis on perfecting the musical ideas and expression than Alessi, who on the other hand plays with unparallelled perfection (not always exciting however, unless you are a trombone technique geek)

[Michaelmassie]

Yes, because you have studied with both of them. I respect both of them because of what they do. Lindberg has the showmanship, and Alessi has the unparalleled technique and sound. Alessi knows how to shape phrases and lines unlike any other instrumentalist period. He shapes them in a way so that he may draw as much expression out of them as the listener can consume. Please, listen to his recordings of "Beau soir" by Debussy and "La fille aux cheveux de lin, prelude for piano", also by Debussy.

[johandemeij]

I agree with you. Lindberg is an exceptionnal trombonist but with all the new soloists. Alessi and Alain Trudel are also fantastic player and they don't deserve as much attention.