Sonic Xtreme Red Sands

[kennysuavo]

sega remake this game!

[animeist72]

Whao this level looks SO awesome!

[tmgr100]

if sonic xtreme where released SEGA would have beaten nintendo before dreamcast!!! psx would have been CRUSHED to death!!!

[RocketRaccoon99]

@tmgr100 And then We would have sega still as a console maker, And the world wouldve been a better place....

[tmgr100]

@RocketRaccoon99 yeah but sega is back!...sorta it is called the sega zone and no release date or usd price yet

[SuperMarioman11]

@ToxicGus OMG u are absolutely right! but still... i probably wouldnt haf saved sega from decliningfrom the console wars

[tmgr100]

WHY SEGA? WHY?

[TheNinwii]

@tmgr100

because they could never finish it because they lacked ideas and time. an important person working on the game nearly died

[tmgr100]

@TheNinwii i no that but it should have been remade by now

[IceFactor52]

All I can hear in this video is "What is love? Baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me, no more". It's quite annoying.

[RangeTE17]

am i the only one who actually thought that this would've been a just average game that wouldn't have lived up to sonic 123&knuckles ?

[gc3k]

@RangeTE17 from what ive seen of the demos, the level design and artwork looks weak. but this engine has a ton of potential. id like to see what 90s sonic team (i think sonic xtreme was sega technical institute) would have done with it. all the demos are on pc not saturn, but if this engine could run smoothly on console back then, us gamers were robbed by inter-company politics and bad business decisions.

[Nifty310]

Why wasn't Sonic Xtreme released?

[jmanfan213]

@Nifty310 Look up the game's development.

[GsukiMKFan]

I'm amazed by how they got so far with the game progress to just cancel it later. They must had their reasons to cancel this, though

[FoshisleAwsome]

how do u have theese levels?

there was only level 1 on the demo!!!!!!

[zomgcontraishard]

Does this remind anyone of a Sonic Adventure 2 Boss called Egg Golem?

[nuzamaki90]

Why did they cancel this shit? This looks intense - and the 3D is outstanding.

[ReligiousHero]

@nuzamaki90 It took to long for them to make it and turned into many different things. It also had many development issues. lolquickreply

[metacrisis47]

The fish-eye lends looks so amazing and intuitive! However, it does give me a bit of a head ache similar to the dizziness I felt from playing Mario Galaxy the first time. Still, wish I could have played this game (SIGH).

[Skwiigo]

May I please ask, where are these demos coming from? I thought all the video demos and betas that used Ofers` engine where held in regard of Ofer himself and never shown to the public. So where did these demos come from?

[MizfitZer0]

This. Along with sonic cd just bed to be released on xbla. Please sega. We want it!!!

[tinkerthecat]

one game does not make a system

[TheSuperSonic111]

BRING THIS GAME BACK!!! THIS TIME... on a Nintendo 3DS

[therailwizard1994]

@TheSuperSonic111 thats what i was thinking

[TheSuperSonic111]

@therailwizard1994 I been Begging to SEGA to bring this game back. They need to listen to all the fans

[therailwizard1994]

@TheSuperSonic111 well on my other channel im gonna start a campaign to get this game finished

[MotweraCity]

why this remind me of sonic's version of crash bandicoot the original?

[Renji1]

Liking this music. Looks like this might have been quite fun to play as a new game on the Saturn.

[Lasty91000]

Why are there no enemies?

[blackplaque617]

The game looks boring. But if they managed to make Knight and Sonic R, why was this so difficult to complete.

[HappehLemons]

better then sonic 4

[executableapplet]

@HappehLemons yes.

[sonicfanman1997]

this game should come out for the 3ds perfect game for this system

[randomgasattack]

Everything here just feels so right... This is how it was supposed to be!

[randomgasattack]

How did this not get released?

[ashbrock55]

Im really good at reading sonic games. For instance, i knew from the start, sonix 06 would be shit. Lets see.... Yup. This game wouldve gotten alot of hype, but people would rather play sonic R.(which i actually thought was fun, but i knew people wouldnt like it that much.)

[sayastra]

i feel bad for the programmers who worked on this game, this thing must have taken a lot of effort to do, you'd have to make a world that would move around a character - like the world was a big sprite.... i would like to see this released instead of frickin' werehogs.

[ringedgebetterbereal]

i don't get why this wasn't relesed, it looks like alot of fun to me.

[shayaan2354]

this is trippy...

[wifflwaffl]

This would make a great Iphone/iPod game. Holy crap.

[fierothehedgehog]

this video better not have the same fucking music like the others

*watches video*

GOD DAMN IT!!!! CAN YOU SEE THERE'S DOWNLOADABLE MUSIC PLANNED TO BE IN THIS GAME ON THE INTERNET?! fucking edit it on movie maker so that it has the music!

[DavidsAdventure2]

The Biggest Mistake: Canceling Sonic Xtreme.

[123kats]

Crap, Ive never seen this clip before O.o there has to be a way for this game to be revised!! I could get lost in that game easily @_@

[Forzaabruzzo]

The fish eye lens would've been a bad idea had this game actually been released. 

[aspet]

I don't think this game would've done very well. The entire game is in a damn sphere.

[NemX162]

@aspet

I agree, it looks terrible, but i think it's a fisheye lens, making the flat stuff look like spheres.

[mariosonicwii]

would be a nice game, but the stage is made completely around a sphere that has the same texture than the stage...

[seanj666]

I guarantee if Sega brought this game out today. Had Sega Saturn graphics. This game would sell out the ass. I'm not even talkin about making it a DLC. I'm saying bring it out straight up cd based. They would make money. It is the lost Sonic and alot of people want to play it.

[Forzaabruzzo]

@seanj666

Not sure if it would really be a hot seller if it was to be released on disc in stores, but I can guarantee you that it would definitely be a hot seller if it were available for download..

[Link66627]

If this game came out, I bet you Sega would have a console out there right now.

And I would buy it.

[JCVDbaby]

2D GAME

COMING 2010 FOLKS

"Project Needlemouse"

[ToxicGus]

Imagine if Sonic Xtreme was released:

Sega Saturn selling more than N64 and PSX, Sonic being more popular than Mario...

[ShadicChao]

sega saturn would've lived longer meaning more time for dreamcast devolpement probably adding dvd with it so it can compete with ps2 and dreamcast wouldve lived longer and seeing that both selled so good a next gen SEGA system

but they were fucking dumb enough to let yuji naka do whatever he wanted then leave and not realese sonic x-treme

the posibilities ...now sega's scrapping ideas for money

[spades48]

well yea. but it wasn't. yes that is probably what would happen. but sega isn't very good with that kinda stuff. and that's exactly why it didn't come out.

[DoixStudios]

World peace restored....lol

[Johnny2071]

Let's not overshadow anyone.

[AssassinJordi]

@ToxicGus Sony dies because of PS's poor sales, SEGA makes a huuuuuge hit with the Dreamcast, Sonic the #1 game character of all time.....It could've been so beautiful.

[brana1646]

@ToxicGus lol i dunno about outselling but it would certainly have gotten some attention

[kR0B45]

@ToxicGus that wouldnt happen, but it would have effected the future of sonic and sega consoles to that effect

[sonicthewerehog493]

@ToxicGus yes, a dream that will never come true

[ElderOfMars]

@sonicthewerehog493 there's always the sonic anniversary game

[Carsonj13]

@ToxicGus With all due respect, thats a faulty speculation. The saturn failed because it was expensive to produce. If Xtreme had been released it may have become a top selling title, and/or boosted the sales in the console, but we would've seen a Dreamcast either way.

[supermax110]

@ToxicGus Not even that:

Sega and Nintendo NEVER teaming up, SSBB wouldnt sell as well because Sonic wouldnt be in, Sega still making consoles "And they would have the best one on the market too :D" And finally, Nintendo might of gotten kicked out of the console war. Maybe.

[janmansde3dede]

@supermax110 I would do anything for the last prediction to happen,

COME ON PEOPLE ! HOW IS A BLAND PLATFORMER SUDDENLY THE BEST GAME EVER BECAUSE

OF A BORING GRAVITY GIMMICK THAT IS ALREADY DONE IN YEARS !?!?!?

[MrSonic699]

@ToxicGus and, because of the money, sega could've do more consoles with better gameplay and so on...

[zeldafanboy23ify]

@ToxicGus Nahh.

[S0nicFANnumbah1]

@ToxicGus Im not sure about that. Sega left alot of people unable to buy future consoles after the genesis addons. I wasnt able to buy the saturn. I think that if they didnt have all those addons, and they released the Sega Saturn they wouldve earned alot of money. I always wanted to play games like Nights and Sonic Jam. But i couldnt.

[RetroChris15]

@ToxicGus Sure, the game looks fun enough but would this seriously compete with Super Mario 64 and Crash Bandicoot for the time? I doubt it. (That's just what I mainly think)

[ACluelessKid]

@ToxicGus

I doubt Sonic would be bigger than Mario in most places, but this game probably would have helped him stay popular. During the N64 gen his popularity decreased a lot.

[rockguythirtytwo]

@ToxicGus Not likely, Sega's downfall was because the corporate heads of the various divisions couldn't get along with anyone and even had they not worked their developers to death on this (leading them to abandon the company entirely) they still didn't know how to properly run a business and would have killed themselves off just as quickly anyways.

[gabteras]

Ojala sega, sacara este juego

[FirebirdFreak87]

Music rocks. Also the gameplay & everything looks amazing compared to the garbage we're getting now.

If Sega were to go back to this game, most likely they'll butcher it & turn it into "Sonic X-Treme Adventure" & it'll get "mixed reviews" or negative reviews. I say if they were to bring this project back, they should make the game exactly as it is right here but with updated graphics for next gen consoles. Other than that, the exact game that was meant to be right here.

[JCVDbaby]

this tune is amazing!!

[spinksy173]

is there any download able versions of the game around?

looks awesome

[DivisibleByWaffle]

Sonic looks so cute in this game.

[sonicfan287]

Well this game was set to release in 1997 or sometime around there? I wonder if the cancellation of it had anything to do with 'Sonic Adventure' which released in Japan in 1998. They might've just realized that it'd be dumb to put out a new Sonic game for Saturn when they had a better one planned not too far off. Again, I wouldn't have minded Sonic X-Treme and it mightve been an all time classic but Sonic Adventure will always be the best 3d sonic game in my eyes

[riseofsintzu]

acctually sonic xtreme was cancellenced because they could not get it to work its a long story just look it up on wikipedia

[XKaiminalX]

No its not that they couldn't get it to work, it was because by November 96, they had no body else to finish the game, plus many complications.

[XKaiminalX]

Sonic Adventure started out as a Saturn game, before moving to the Dreamcast. But no they are not linked in anyway.

[dougd1015]

So the correlation of quality of a game is determined by the software and accordance of hardware accordance?

[PrincessElise4Ever]

1997 ? You need to get your facts straight next time little fellow

[sonicfan287]

I just guessed 1997, since they had just finished up working on Sonic 3D Blast in 1996, and Sonic Adventure came out in 1998 in Japan, I could see them starting development on this game in 1996, but not much earlier than that given the time table

[megaman616]

wow mario galaxy right there!

[ToxicGus]

Why this game was cancelled??

They have mental problems??

[hilarioph]

This is the cancel game of Sonic Xtreme

[powerblip]

I love getting free laughs out of ur stupid conversations.... that one down a couple comments was just pointless, not ANY Mario game could sell, they can't just put mario in a random world with random moves and expect it to sell, games are thought thru very well. there are some mario games that suck!!!

[quarxyz1]

that was a pretyy lame conversation down there -_- fighting over video games, and such, and yes any mario agem will sell becuase mario agnmes are fun(in my opinion) >:)

this gamedoes seems sorta like galaxy the concept and such, XD. maybe they stole it! no probably not, wish this game was released, it looks fun. hpefully sonic unleashed will be(ait i dont ave any consoles that will play it *firehead slap* d'oh!)

[chickenfetusnarr]

no, mario games sell because mario stayed in his roots. no spoken dialog, simple story, few new characters every once in a while. Mario and Zelda did it, they're still on top. Sonic now says cheesy, childish lines every game, with the main villain now getting his ass kicked by his own plans. not to mention sonic, who WAS the rebellious badass, is now reduced to a cocky half assed bastard who let shadow take his place.

[quarxyz1]

there is, no way i can disagree with that. ;)

[Omegaxis42]

Reminds me of Mario Galaxy

[akehurst2006]

yeah very true!

[UltraDOG17]

i dont care what is it

shit, if they can re-hash sum classic mario (i do mean classic or suck-ass unreleased game of me on any game) then why not release this game tho?

[XKaiminalX]

Because it wasn't finished and nearly killed 2 people, next stupid question please..

[UltraDOG17]

wow, ya actually took this Offensive???

How Pathetic of ya

i was makin an curious statement, fool

if that was true, how come 2 dudes actually make the game BETTER than 30 folks

ya not so bright of yaself

[dougd1015]

I don't really know how to contribute to this conversation, but I do support Ultardog17

[sega31098]

This probably will sound stupid, but other than Senn, who else was nearly killed?

[UltraDOG17]

yeah, sum re-hash or useless mario game that WILL sell no matter what,

even an Happy Meal of a Mario Game WILL Sell, trust me

[NFlamezV]

so true

[XKaiminalX]

Senn and Coffin i think, Anyways because Senn and Ofer left the team and began working on their own so the politics that was spreading through SEGA didn't affect them as much as it did in the original development team,

[sega31098]

I knew Senn nearly died of pneumonia, but how did the other?

[XKaiminalX]

I actually can't remember how coffin got ill, i'll look into it.

[sega31098]

aww no sfx.

[hagridandfang]

it kinda looks like super mario galaxy... maybe that's just me...

[nightwalk15]

it do in a sonic way

[linkin800]

GAH! someone call Sega and tell them to make this game for DS with graphic updates so we can finnaly play this game!!!

[shenmueaddict]

It doesent need graphical updates, the game looks and plays great, just frickin port it sega please!!

[XKaiminalX]

Yeah, how can they when it was never finished? Chris and Ofer tried to port it but the people who they wanted to port it said no.

[shenmueaddict]

The game looks pretty complete to me, they could port it to the DS or something with ease

[XKaiminalX]

It does, but it wasn't finished, I've asked the guy himself if it was. He had loads to do on it.

[XKaiminalX]

Forgot to add, if your the same shenmueaddict from Segaforums then you'll know what i mean, that Sonic X-treme thing i put up on there was the only playble version that was released.

[shenmueaddict]

yep im the same guy and yeh that version you uploaded was far from complete but this version looks totally different, it looks so complete!

[XKaiminalX]

Thats because they were to different engines, This level what you see here was made by 2 men within a week, the NiGHTs engine if i remember was pulled from them because Naka didn't want them to have it. I know it does but it wasn't finished due to no ending of this video.

[shenmueaddict]

Wow! this is very very impressive for that short amount of time!

[XKaiminalX]

What shocks me the most is, Theres loads of data of this level and all its textures yet no one had the brains to actually made this.

Or can be arsed.

[ahphooey]

I saw what appeared to be a tech demo here on Youtube of a level made with the NiGHTS engine. I don't know which was the better engine, but that tech demo didn't have anything on these levels with the fish-eye view. Of course, being just a demo made before Naka pulled the engine, there would be no way to judge what a finished level would look like with the NiGHTS engine.

[XKaiminalX]

This engine were watching here was better, This was just made by 2 people within a week compared to the NiGHTS engine.

[laescaleradejacob]

sobrecogedor, impresionante, toda una pena que nollgera a salir, por decision de la empresa, o por falta de capital para deserrollarlo, quiza algun dia pueda verse el juego entero o casi en internet, y pueda ser jugado......

[ShadowtheHedgehog64]

Well, i guess the only way to play this game is to ether make it yourself or somehow get the developer to go finish and realese it. but thats just my opinion. Great music btw.

[powerblip]

We need to start something, we need to get SEGA to start up this game again, it has amazing potential!

[xblackxrosexgardenx]

It is amazing that after all of these years this game still has amazing potential to be a great game today!

[alexander4488]

Reminds me so much of Super Mario Galaxy!

[bleed0range]

I thought the same thing!

[UltimateThanos]

Why does he breath so fast when he stands still?? Anyway, I wish they'd used THIS 3d model in Sonic Adventure, and gave him all the classic moves including insta-sheild and that rev-up thing he does in Sonic CD.

[BeckTropical]

it s not a 3d model . it s a sprite.

[DBoyNasty]

Very interesting level design. The gameplay has been the same for years (with the exception of Sonic Advance and Sonic Adventure).

[naz2rule]

miserable lookin gameplay.....sry but sonic had so many chances of gettin it rite and up until this day, im still waiting 4 a goddamn decent sonic game that can at least compare to Sonic 1 let alone Sonic 3 & Knuckles.

[mistercqnzr]

Then where where you when Sonic Rush came out? It's relevant.

[naz2rule]

I dont hav DS. But i had a look at it in u-tube. It seems better than all the rest. But i still wont consider it as the benchmark of all sonic. Play sonic3 & knuckles combined or download it. It eventualy lets u transform super/hyper sonic wenever u like even tails. It has the best level designs

[Narutovbleach]

I think this should be how ALL Sonic 3D games should have played out like.

[Neotails8762]

I'm still not too sure on the fish-eye lens thing.. makes everything look disorientating..

Is there a Downloads page for this stuff? :3

[frak126]

It would have been great, but from reports and interviews I have read, it would have been terribly expensive, buggy, slow, and only work on the SEGA PC (i.e. only for the PPC processor architecture), now we could have done it with the Qemu processor emulator, or just run it on a Mac without any performance loss, since it was such a large game back then, but a small game today, and SEGA PC's were thousands of dollars back then, and the game would have been an estimated $700!

[spikygirl27]

Sorry but we can't play this game because it was canceled which was terrible, so what you see are previews.

[no1amiyumifan]

Can Someone Please Tell me Where I can Download This Game Or Something Because I MUST PLAY THIS GAME

[blackdice23]

It's not that simple, as you will find out if you look into the scandal that supposedly surrounded this games aquisition! It was cursed from day one, and remains so. Perhaps the Sonic gods are trying to tell us that a 3D Sonic was never meant to be?

[giopartida]

We need to play this game

[GuruLarry]

Is it using the same graphics engine as Bug, with with a fish eyed lens on the camera?

[Dani128]

hmm I don't remember a fish eyed lens in Bug... but they don't use the same engine. You can find a few interviews with the programmers and artists at Sonic Cult.

[GuruLarry]

No Bug! didn't have a Fish eye lens on it. I've seen a few interviews about it, theres also some info about it in the book "the ultimate guide to video games" in that Yugi Naka fighted the game from the start and even threatened to quit if it was released.

[ZackShadowtail]

http://xtreme(dot)projectsonic­(dot)com/music/space_queens.mp­3

[radornkeldam]

well, oviously it has better geometry precision wich avoids polygons from "dancing", as seen on real saturn, playstation, even DS... But that is normal for PC hardware even those days.

Other than that difference (and maybe, just maybe, framerate), wich is not even due to a deliberate modification but hardware's capabilities, I don't think actual Saturn version would be any worse.

[Justinedx]

A piece of CRAP

[SAMTHEMANTHATCAN]

Wow. All i can say is Mario Galaxy!!! And y they didnt release it is a mystery as after seeing these videos i was so suprised at how smooth it was and how much better the graphics are than i thought when seeing the pics 10yrs ago!!!

[heartcore6]

d00d wtf is this

your the guy with The

funny ass Moshing Kids

you need more not this silly video game shit

[ZackShadowtail]

Nice. :) I got to have this song! ^_^

[DonZabu]

it looks like the rings are going ''into'' him.

[rich1980]

Well i dont think it dosent look half as bad as the computer magazines @the time made it out to be

[Lassic]

Caustrofobic, to say the least. It's not even fully 3D. In fact, it's 2D, but Sega used a new method to simulate a tridimensional world, so it looks 3D. By the way, it was very nice. The only thing that i really liked is the feeling of the old schools Sonic incoporated in a semi 3D world. Sonic Adventure doesn't have that feeling.

[rich1980]

This is the first time Iv seen in running up until then I only saw pictures. Gotta be honest Im blown away how good the graphics are...

...anyone notice how the new Mario game on Wii looks eerily the same...?

[quietpeoplerock]

This was for the PC version, as it says at the beginning of the video, so maybe they upped the graphics for the PC version.

[Owwmykneecap]

i though something similar....btw it may say pc but its for the Saturn i.e. its a port they would have been concentrating on the saturn

[therpham]

I thought the same thing about Mario Galaxy when I saw these videos. Those round worlds do seem awfully similar. Ten year old industrial espionage!

[XenoGuard]

such an impressive deduction genius.

On the topic of the accual Video, this game doesn't look too bad, the song is catchy, shame i never had a saturn

[singulaire]

still it brought a whole new perspective,

and i looks good because your not holding down the

controller to only one direction the whole time.

for example you only hold the control stick to

the front the whole time in sonic adventure

[Shatagni]

the Sonic Adventure series was ok but since the end of the 16-bit era nobody was able fully utilise Sonic's speed or create unique level designs and don't get me started on Sonic heroes.

I would've liked seeing this because I think the fish-eye camera is unique although not suited for a sonic game, But it was supposed to be for a weak system and it originally made for a weaker system.

[MalonsMilk]

Looks complicated, but would have been a much better way for the camer to follow sonic around. You just cant get that same sort of speed and urgency from sonic adventure games.