marx said that revolution can not be held by the peaasants, you here hold the most despicable traits of the aristocracy, talking shit, not knowing a single aspect of Marxism.
Mais il vaut mieux pour le youtube, car vous representer le compositiiiiion des idiots tres biens. joyeux joyeux joyeux
@JungleMeta *reads Hitler was a Zionist and that Nazism was a Zionist group). Oh I am so sorry. I didn't realize I was arguing with someone who was mentally challenged. Seriously though, I don't usually resort to this sort of thing out of descent human respect, but I now see that you are an idiot. I will not bother to debate with you anymore.
@JungleMeta By the way, most self-proclaimed Jews and Jewish families, Zionist or not don't actually even have any genetic, ethical, or historical blood backgrounds in their families.
@CaptSanderson I realize that, I know even Christians can be Zionists. These days its a word people are afraid to even use, for fear of being labeled as a racist. I'm off this page, laters
You know what I find ironic? That song talk about worldwide brotherhood, unity and peace (hence the title "L'Internationale") yet all I see around here is peoples having arguments with each over trivial matters. Meanwhile, president of banks, big corporations with their lobbys are exploiting peoples all over the world as well as controlling our governments and dispising peoples lives in their quests for profits. THESE ARE THE REAL ENEMY!! THESE ARE THE ONES AGAINST WHO WE MUST UNITE AND FIGHT!
Cest beau! Bien mieux que la version raccourcie pour les vauriens!
Tout les hongrois-sumériens et flamands de mes fesses peuvent aller se faire voir avec leurs problèmes de merde de foutus cuistres!!!! et prendre conscience qu'on en a rien a cirer de votre héroïsme de baltringues! soit vous êtes avec nous soit vous êtes contre nous. AMEN (huhu) !
Long live true communism. I bet marx would want us to abandon all idoles (even him) and form a community that cares about others peoples opinions and ideas.
Lenin was a traitor to the revolution! He introduced the concept of the vanguard (single) party. Through this he kept himself in power, killed the revolution, and created a new oppressor, Soviet Bolshevism! Lenin killed many socialists, anarcho-communists, democratic socialists, anarcho-collectivists, and true Marxists! Death to the fascist ideology of Marxism-Leninism! Vive true Communism!
Juche is a nationalist version of marxism and very similar to Milosevic ideology. The pro-Kimjongil Hanchongryun follows ideology which is 100% same as that of Obraz, another marxist organisation.Both are illegal in their respective countries.,
@xxwzaebd Slobodan Milosevic isn't even a communist............. In fact he hated communism. Get your shit straight and go try to be a wise ass somewhere else :D
This only shows you don't know anything about communism. What they do is the same as Milosevic did. His party was the successor of the yugoslav communist party and his wife also founded a communist extremist party. Communists kill people,kidnap and sell women and children and sell drugs(FARC,North Korea). They even kidnap older married women and force them to make children to be used as spies.They murdered our seamen in open sea 1 year ago.
@xxwzaebd No, actually, it only prooves that you're taking these things out of your ass. I live in the Balkans, I, unlike you, know who Milosevic is and what communism is.
"Communists kill children and dey murder our seemen!!!!" lol sorry, but you're dumb. Nothing personal, just stating some facts. :) No offense.
@xxwzaebd Not ONE Marxist I have ever met has had anything but disdain for them.
Learn your shit.
And as for your comment about Marxist books not circulating, I suppose you prefer Fascism? Because without freedom of speech and ideology that is what we will have.
@JungleMeta no sane man who has read the words of Marx, Engel, and Luxemburg holds any sympathies for the actions of the 'communists' of the USSR and its puppet states. I don't think the Jews had a terrible lot to do with the funding of the soviets though, which at least had plenty of wealth of their own...
@ken6346 Sorry...turns out they were funded by people in North America, the funds have been traced. Also remnants of the Hapsburgs changing faces, reference Maximillion Ferdinand in mexico for the link, yes the soviets were there too. Soviets had stolen wealth to add to that. Doesn't matter what we think, fact is history. Proof is in the pudding. Like I said, only one group could cross the borders, and I've personally met a lot.
@iwanttobelieve : Thanks it's nice to see that some people are able to make the difference between the idealism and what has been named as "communism".
Nobody has to read anything about marxism. Just search "kim jong il" and "slobodan milosevic" if you want to know what marxism is. Marxist books are only good as fuel for making fire.
@xxwzaebd : Try reading Farenheit 451 (even if I'm not sure you'll be able to fully understand the critism behind the book) before saying : Let's burn a book.
Most countries have provisions to confiscate and destroy subversive or illegal material. Marxism murdered 100 million people as evident from history. That's why people go to jail here for disseminating the communist manifesto in public(since its intention was to incite people to subvert the state). Similarly, illegal counterfeits and adult videos(illegal here) are confiscated and destroyed by the government.
Letting marxist books circulate in public freely is the same as letting murderers,robbers and drug dealers free in public armed with machine guns. Essentially, this is what the FARC, a marxist thug group, is.
@xxwzaebd And that has anything to do with Marxism how? There was alot of 'Marxist'' nations founded. Does that actually make them one? no. Since when does Marxism say that leadership should be passed down from a leader to his son, and then to the son's son... That is monarchy. And how does Kim Jong Il being technically Russian have any relevance to this? Marxism isn't even Russian, and we were talking about IT, not Russia.
@xxwzaebd None of the people who caused great amounts of deaths were Marxist. They used the thought of it to gain power, they didn't actually follow Marxism... You are saying random shit, it's annoying that you cant even get a solid argument, so I will no longer speak to such a troll. Good day
Communists always kill people who are different.Stalin ,a hardcore Marxist liberal,did ethnic cleansing and genocide and forced relocation of people of other races and another marxist,Slobodan Milosevic,was no different. Therefore,marxist=murder ideology. No different than Nazi. Kim Jong Il does the same things. So Kim Jong Il is definitely a marxist.
@xxwzaebd Kim Jong Il is a Juche believer. North Korea is Juche and nothing close to Marxism or Communism itself. The only Communist part of North Korea is the state run economy.
Kim Jong Il est un fasciste, son gouvernement pratiques eugéniques (la théorie nazie) et les massacres de ses propres concitoyens. Et les communistes le défendre comme «anti-impérialiste». Votre aveugle un anti-américanisme est pathétique. et vous avez l'audace de vous comparer à des partisans qui ont combattu Hitler. En réalité, celui qui défend les régimes communistes d'aujourd'hui, poursuit le sombre héritage du fascisme.
@TheTollundWoman Encore un petit malin qui parle sans regarder plus loin que le bout de son nez. Si tu avais au moins lu la description de la vidéo, tu saurais qu'aucun Communiste un tant soi peu intègre ne soutient Kim Jong-il de quelque façon que ce soit. La Corée du Nord est un régime capitaliste-d'État, nationaliste et militariste qui, par ailleurs, ne perd même plus son temps à prétendre qu'il est un État "socialiste".
@TheTollundWoman Et si l'anti-américanisme de base (souvent plus mis en avant encore par les néo-fascistes que par les staliniens d'ailleurs) est effectivement le niveau zéro de la critique sociale, ça ne rend en aucun cas des critiques sérieuses des politiques américaines (ou de ses alliés) obsolètes pour autant. Surtout quand on voit sur ta chaîne que tu es pro-Israélien ... et ça viendra parler de massacre de populations. Ton inculture historique comme politique est flagrante.
@CapitalistOverlord The original French words were written in June 1871 by Eugène Pottier (1816–1887, previously a member of the Paris Commune)[1] and were originally intended to be sung to the tune of La Marseillaise
Lenin didn't kill anyone, did he? I mean, Stalin did, of course.. but Lenin?
"I'm tired of reading "baw communists killd ppl they r dictatorz". Lenin, Stalin, Mao, and a bunch of other madmen did, but they were not real Communists"..
@ShayCarlFan1000 Lenin (And Trotsky) are directly and indirectly reponsible for numerous abuses, including the repression of the Kronstadt Uprising and the Red Terror.
@iwanttobelieve Kronstadt? That was a violent uprising. Would you have Tukhachevsky and Trotsky sit by and act as if they were not given the responsibility of protecting a sovereign entity?
I am defending them from their commonly attributed poor reputations, though I would not say they are legitimate revolutionaries. The reason being apparent in Marx's introduction to a Contribution to the Critique of Political Economy.
If only we had the communist spirit today like we have had sixty years ago, things might be a little bit different. I mean I'm not in favor of the Russian and Chinese communism, but you have to admit they did bring some goods to the world as we know it nowadays, especially to the liberation of countries around the globe.
Communism could have been a good idea; it just didn't work, the world cannot live on socialism, we all know that. Every country who adopted it jsut went broke....
Humanity must save itself, before we can dream of saving the fragile world which has sustained us to this point. This world and its environment is threatened by capitalist disrespect, destruction, and waste.
Workers of the world unite! For peace, freedom, democracy, equality, and direct control of production by the workers and people themselves! Victory to the people!
Down with all forms of opression, tyranny, and exploitation!
you're far left loons. its thanks to all of these that socialism, communism and marxism is the reason why Europe is going down the pan. It's also the reason why our liberties including freedom of speech and getting slowly taken away from by being more and more controlled through political correctness and big goverment. giving all this social jusice nonsense as well . only limited government and faith in god will set us free, truth and justice (equal justice not social justice) will set us free
@thebairns1876 I believe that the average human -and every other kind of human- will have a far more fulfilled life in Norway than in Germany, or even the USA. So that would mean you are utterly wrong. Maybe you just have weird standards though, or the Capitalist Bolshevik Jews blended me.
And what about that religious exclusivism? Isn't that a bit... well... not liberal?
I don't think you can consider Lenin as a "fake communist", Stalin and Mao certainly, but Lenin along with his second man Trotsky were very much civil libertarians and Economic communists.
Amazed when people strawman socialism as unrealistic egalitarian utopians - its about producers demanding their dues from vultures, which through peaceful concessions to class conscious workers has slowly been delivered in some parts of the world - shame how slow change comes in, say, America, how others have hijacked the movement for their own purposes, and worst how some in the socialist-democracies of Europe, alienated from the conditions the song railed against, really do push that strawman.
"The Russian version has edited lyrics, advocating militarism, whereas the original calls for Peace."
Only a fool would believe that the corporate giants of today are just going to roll over and die when, or if, democracy rises against it.
Lenin had it right when he said that a transitional dictatorship and violence are necessary to kill the capitalist pigs before communism can be established. Lenin simply formed and applied a more realistic version of Marxism.
@xCreScenDo Yeah. Yeah, of course, Kronstadt was FULL of "capitalist pigs", right ? In the end, only freedom and the people suffered. There is a difference between waging social war on the capital; and using coercion as a mean to crush dissidence, whether it was in fact reactionary or just didn't correspond to the Bolshevik's authoritarian view of things.
@iwanttobelieve You do forget that Kronstadt was a NAVAL coup and this was the 1920s. No country at the time would have acted any differently than Lenin towards them, and he was gracious in his description and reaction,. He called it "the spark which lit up the truth better than anything else" before following with the NEP. (In fact if you were a non-Russian you gained more freedom under Lenin. Within a month of the revolution, Lenin granted Finland independence. Stalin was the dictator.)
@MyVacillation The spark which lit up the thruth ? More like the spark the Bolsheviks suppressed so that the thruth wouldn't go "boom" in their face. And just because "other countries" (You mean, capitalist countries ?) would have reacted in the same way doesn't make the repression legitimate in any way ; actually, it would even prove bourgeois democracy and soviet republic had something in common. And they do : Neither tolerates individual indepedence.
@iwanttobelieve Do you know what that quote was about; the failure of war communism during the civil war 1917-1921? Admitting and FIXING your mistake is not suppression. My point: many other nations I bet you would not post such qualitative, baseless statements upon as Lenin, were doing the same thing. When considering a person's quality you have to take into account their time period. Considering his country's past and the outside pressures, they did well until Stalin stole the revolution.
@MyVacillation "Admitting" his mistake ? The Kronstadt mutineers were sent the Red Army, denied food supplies and subject to torture and summary executions. More than 2,000 revolutionaries died for advocating true Communism. Who could call that "fixing" a mistake ? The Revolution was stolen way before Stalin came to power ; it was stolen when some Party claimed to be the avant-garde and pretended they had to lead the Revolution themselves.
@iwanttobelieve Do you know what the NEP is; the New Economic Policy? Or war communism? Do you understand the past or current policies of dealing with military coups or mutinies? I would call reinstating a monetary salary, allowing small businesses, and the like, 'fixing' past policies which had proven to not work. (Also, it was not the Red Army, it was the Checka. Not an organization I would tolerate now or on my own soil, but hardly surprising considering the influence of the previous Okrana.)
@iwanttobelieve oh, in the NEP he also allowed the farmers to sell their crop again instead of distributing it as he saw fit without monetary compensation but with the promise of tractors in the future. He continued to take land and divide it this point such as wealthy manors and the church's land, and the government still controlled big business, but the black market for food disappeared and farmers (and workers) took more interest in their production and jobs.
@MyVacillation I do know what War Communism and the NEP were about. This isn't the problem. Kronstadt mutineers wanted Communism in its true form, that's why the Bolsheviks crushed them. Actually, how Lenin dealt with the mutiny isn't even the issue ; the problem is that he did deal with it. And both the Red Army and the Cheka were used : The first for food shortage, population containment and direct repression, and the later for carrying out arrests, torture and executions.
@iwanttobelieve Do you honestly suggest that any country should allow a mutiny to go unaddressable? I assume you wanted them to go unpunished, but this is the military. Had it been a civilian protest I would suggest it be dealt with differently, I would be horribly disappointed if any civilian who did not violently protest was punished, but this was not the case.
Killing a class does not require blood. Classes are a manifestation of the capitalist system, so abolishing that does away with classes and thus with the pigs. Besides, capitalists are by nature the minority, so crushing them with guns like you suggest is completely unnecessary. Spending that kind of money on guns only increases the burden on the working masses.
@xCreScenDo Installing effective measures to decrease and maybe even disintegrate economic and other kinds of repression does not necessitate a civil war.
Wait, what are you talking about? Transitional dictatorship? Lenin was one of the most avid and articulate defenders of workers' democracy.
When you say more realistic version of Marxism, who in your mind represents the unrealistic version? I think Lenin would call himself an orthodox Marxist through and through.
@xCreScenDo He was wrong about that actually, communism is a state of peaceful anarchy, the very concept of government is anathema to it. Whether or not he was motivated by greed or sought to change human nature, I can't say. The latter is required for communism to work, and it won't come about through political change. The only possibilities for that kind of change are all technological in nature. If you want me to elaborate on that though, just let me know.
There have been plenty of responses to my original post. Since they're all, essentially, based on the same line of thought, I'll respond to all of you at once:
Do some reading on Leninism. Marx, the dumb Jew, did not understand Russia like Lenin did, nor the nature of his own concept as well as Lenin. I'm sure you will find two things of note. First, that the communism Marx presented is not practical. The damn Jew presented only the....
@xCreScenDo ...most idealistic form of communism. Do you really think that, today, people can just vote, or whatever Marx was thinking, themselves out of slavery?
What I tried saying earlier is that Marx was all theory, Lenin was implementation of theory. Thus, "Lenin's communism" was simply more realistic than Marx's. Violence and suppression included. It was just necessary.
@xCreScenDo Yet it's undeniable that by applying the theory in such a way, he effectively negated it entirely. Even if Lenin hadn't invalidated it through violence and suppression, human nature would have done that for him. You see, humans are driven towards control as a means of securing mates and sustenance, as are most animals, it's simply a necessary survival instinct.
@xCreScenDo These instincts are what allow adaptation to hostile environmemnts. Humans however, are capable of adapting hostile environments to suit their needs. This isn't really a phenomenon unique to humans, but no other known species has done it to such a degree as humanity has. This in turn has resulted in our baser instincts becoming more and more detrimental to our interests, to the point that humanity has long since supplanted nature as its worst enemy.
@xCreScenDo The only way for communism to succeed in any manner or degree, is for that drive to be eliminated. This could be done through genetics, thought it would inevitably result in humanity's rapid extinction. The other option is enabling humanity to reach an entirely different level of consciousness, universal empathy that is.
@xCreScenDo I honestly don't know if it's possible at all, or what the repercussions would be if it was, but if every individual was aware of every other individual's thoughts and emotions as though they were their own, it would theoretically render it impossible to sate the baser desires through inflicting adversity on others since the individual that does so would also feel the negative consequences as if they applied to them.
Umm... While I'm sure a very few of the Communards might have agreed with some of your statements in their later years, all would have longed to shoot Milton Friedman in his cradle, just look at their reaction to Louis Philippe and later to Louis Napoleon. Also, libertarianism that close on the heels of Haussmannization and immediately following the Franco-Prussian War and the Seige of Paris? The city needed healing. It was getting bullets in 35,000 people. It did not need libertarianism!
You mean the Paris Commune of 1871? I thought Engels called it the "Dictatorship of the Proletariat." (even though the term was first coined by Joseph Weydemeyer)
It was interesting. The Communal Counsel itself was in what they considered themselves (which could be more than one thing) two thirds International Workingman's Association, one third neo-Jacobin, one third Blanquist, some Prudhonists, and some Independents. It consisted of some workers, some painters, some journalists, some poets and novelists, some doctors, some teachers, etc. They believed in the goal of feeding everyone and getting everyone up and running again after the Seige.
"as the Internationale music was published beforeit is in the public domain in the USA.[8] Pierre De Geyter's music is also in the public domain in countries and areas whose copyright durations are authors' lifetime plus 75 years or less. As Eugène Pottier died in 1887, his original French lyrics are in the public domain."
Found at wikipedia (The internationale),
It is in public domain! They have no rights over it, they can't block this track!!!
Lenin wake up. We need you.
allal231 2 days ago
je serais pas subtil, je deteste tous dvous
marx said that revolution can not be held by the peaasants, you here hold the most despicable traits of the aristocracy, talking shit, not knowing a single aspect of Marxism.
Mais il vaut mieux pour le youtube, car vous representer le compositiiiiion des idiots tres biens. joyeux joyeux joyeux
ndrwplussine 6 days ago
The Hammer and the sickle is a leninist symbol, not a Marxist symbol. Anyway, thanks for uploading that song, merci beaucoup !
Mnaudol 1 week ago
Could you re-upload the song somewhere else?
Ennio444 1 week ago
@Ennio444 Done!
iwanttobelieve 1 week ago
Thanks a lots! I love this version, it's a powerful rendition!
Ennio444 1 week ago
not the song i was lookin for haha
tsteak20 2 weeks ago
hi from iran, long live the international....
Workers of the world unite, against tyranny, oppression, and all forms of exploitation
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@JungleMeta *reads Hitler was a Zionist and that Nazism was a Zionist group). Oh I am so sorry. I didn't realize I was arguing with someone who was mentally challenged. Seriously though, I don't usually resort to this sort of thing out of descent human respect, but I now see that you are an idiot. I will not bother to debate with you anymore.
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@JungleMeta . . . Zionism in a nutshell is basically Jewish Fascism. Hitler was part of the NSDAP and sought the Zionists to be killed. You're smart.
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@JungleMeta By the way, most self-proclaimed Jews and Jewish families, Zionist or not don't actually even have any genetic, ethical, or historical blood backgrounds in their families.
CaptSanderson 2 months ago
@CaptSanderson I realize that, I know even Christians can be Zionists. These days its a word people are afraid to even use, for fear of being labeled as a racist. I'm off this page, laters
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JungleMeta 2 months ago
Was anyone else reminded of Tiger from Whinnie the Poe when listening to this guy sing?
historybuff5341 2 months ago
@historybuff5341 Not really, but come to think of it, being sung by Jim Cummings would be the only way to make this song even more epic :)
neosoc 2 weeks ago
You know what I find ironic? That song talk about worldwide brotherhood, unity and peace (hence the title "L'Internationale") yet all I see around here is peoples having arguments with each over trivial matters. Meanwhile, president of banks, big corporations with their lobbys are exploiting peoples all over the world as well as controlling our governments and dispising peoples lives in their quests for profits. THESE ARE THE REAL ENEMY!! THESE ARE THE ONES AGAINST WHO WE MUST UNITE AND FIGHT!
Tiberiansam 2 months ago 19
Stupid Commies.
RougeSamurai77 2 months ago
Am I the only one who listens to this song because I think it's pretty?
long774 3 months ago
@long774 I hate Communism, and I think Socialism is pretty. but I love the music of the Internationale. :)
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Give me your address, I'm coming over for Christmas :D
CrvenaPravda 3 months ago
I love how Freidrich Engels' beard looks like it's someone else's and has been poorly photoshopped on. I also love his political philosophy. :)
PuissantAlgernon 3 months ago
I don't know who's worse: the anticommunists with their lies and falsifications or the so-called communists who believe in them!
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JungleMeta 3 months ago
I like the fuckstalin tag :)
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CrvenaPravda 3 months ago
Cest beau! Bien mieux que la version raccourcie pour les vauriens!
Tout les hongrois-sumériens et flamands de mes fesses peuvent aller se faire voir avec leurs problèmes de merde de foutus cuistres!!!! et prendre conscience qu'on en a rien a cirer de votre héroïsme de baltringues! soit vous êtes avec nous soit vous êtes contre nous. AMEN (huhu) !
BazKrasnodar 4 months ago
Marxism=maneating pseudoreligion. 100 000 000 people were killed. Much worse than Brevik or U Beom Gon.
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lukazz434 4 months ago
Long live true communism. I bet marx would want us to abandon all idoles (even him) and form a community that cares about others peoples opinions and ideas.
lukazz434 4 months ago
Long Live the Stalinist Caricature!!!
PrimeConsciousness 4 months ago
Lenin was a traitor to the revolution! He introduced the concept of the vanguard (single) party. Through this he kept himself in power, killed the revolution, and created a new oppressor, Soviet Bolshevism! Lenin killed many socialists, anarcho-communists, democratic socialists, anarcho-collectivists, and true Marxists! Death to the fascist ideology of Marxism-Leninism! Vive true Communism!
Socialist96 5 months ago
Beautiful concept by a idealistic few, a total failure in practice by the self-centered mass.
StudentofSunTzu 5 months ago
Juche is a nationalist version of marxism and very similar to Milosevic ideology. The pro-Kimjongil Hanchongryun follows ideology which is 100% same as that of Obraz, another marxist organisation.Both are illegal in their respective countries.,
xxwzaebd 5 months ago
@xxwzaebd Slobodan Milosevic isn't even a communist............. In fact he hated communism. Get your shit straight and go try to be a wise ass somewhere else :D
nekocekoBiH 5 months ago
This only shows you don't know anything about communism. What they do is the same as Milosevic did. His party was the successor of the yugoslav communist party and his wife also founded a communist extremist party. Communists kill people,kidnap and sell women and children and sell drugs(FARC,North Korea). They even kidnap older married women and force them to make children to be used as spies.They murdered our seamen in open sea 1 year ago.
xxwzaebd 5 months ago
@xxwzaebd No, actually, it only prooves that you're taking these things out of your ass. I live in the Balkans, I, unlike you, know who Milosevic is and what communism is.
"Communists kill children and dey murder our seemen!!!!" lol sorry, but you're dumb. Nothing personal, just stating some facts. :) No offense.
nekocekoBiH 5 months ago
Then why do marxists support and even worship kim il sung, kim jong il and jong eun?
xxwzaebd 5 months ago
@xxwzaebd Not ONE Marxist I have ever met has had anything but disdain for them.
Learn your shit.
And as for your comment about Marxist books not circulating, I suppose you prefer Fascism? Because without freedom of speech and ideology that is what we will have.
maraudingchimpanzee 5 months ago
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Preventing crimes like treason,mass murder and stealing weapons from military bases is not fascism. These are all things communists do all the time.
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nekocekoBiH 5 months ago
Let us overthrow the Bates Dynasty and establish the Socialist Republic of Sealand :)
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@JungleMeta Take your anti-Semitic conspiracy elsewhere.
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@JungleMeta Lol right.
nekocekoBiH 5 months ago
@JungleMeta no sane man who has read the words of Marx, Engel, and Luxemburg holds any sympathies for the actions of the 'communists' of the USSR and its puppet states. I don't think the Jews had a terrible lot to do with the funding of the soviets though, which at least had plenty of wealth of their own...
ken6346 3 months ago
@ken6346 Sorry...turns out they were funded by people in North America, the funds have been traced. Also remnants of the Hapsburgs changing faces, reference Maximillion Ferdinand in mexico for the link, yes the soviets were there too. Soviets had stolen wealth to add to that. Doesn't matter what we think, fact is history. Proof is in the pudding. Like I said, only one group could cross the borders, and I've personally met a lot.
JungleMeta 2 months ago
Marxism has inherent ties to anarchism. Problems arise when people lose sight of this; and state-sponsored oppression is the result.
stripesthebird 6 months ago
@iwanttobelieve : Thanks it's nice to see that some people are able to make the difference between the idealism and what has been named as "communism".
Dupapier 6 months ago
"Marxist liberal"
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Only Americans are that dumb.
underbjorn 7 months ago
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Nobody has to read anything about marxism. Just search "kim jong il" and "slobodan milosevic" if you want to know what marxism is. Marxist books are only good as fuel for making fire.
xxwzaebd 7 months ago
@xxwzaebd ...What about trying something constructive ? Even though I doubt someone who would burn books he has not read is capable of this.
iwanttobelieve 7 months ago 11
@xxwzaebd : Try reading Farenheit 451 (even if I'm not sure you'll be able to fully understand the critism behind the book) before saying : Let's burn a book.
Dupapier 6 months ago
Most countries have provisions to confiscate and destroy subversive or illegal material. Marxism murdered 100 million people as evident from history. That's why people go to jail here for disseminating the communist manifesto in public(since its intention was to incite people to subvert the state). Similarly, illegal counterfeits and adult videos(illegal here) are confiscated and destroyed by the government.
xxwzaebd 6 months ago
Letting marxist books circulate in public freely is the same as letting murderers,robbers and drug dealers free in public armed with machine guns. Essentially, this is what the FARC, a marxist thug group, is.
xxwzaebd 5 months ago
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@xxwzaebd Sorry but you are dumb
CrazyFireMoose 6 months ago
@xxwzaebd slobodan milosevic?? a communist?? are you kiding me??
0jrhindo 6 months ago
Milosevic was a hardcore marxist, just like kim jong il and pol pot. They just did what all communists do.
xxwzaebd 5 months ago
@xxwzaebd Kim Jong Il's regime is not even the slightest bit marxist.
GZH1234 4 months ago 2
It was founded as a marxist puppet regime of the Soviets and Kim Jong Il is technically still a Russian(real name Yuri Irsenovic).
xxwzaebd 4 months ago
@xxwzaebd And that has anything to do with Marxism how? There was alot of 'Marxist'' nations founded. Does that actually make them one? no. Since when does Marxism say that leadership should be passed down from a leader to his son, and then to the son's son... That is monarchy. And how does Kim Jong Il being technically Russian have any relevance to this? Marxism isn't even Russian, and we were talking about IT, not Russia.
GZH1234 4 months ago
Marxism has killed too many people. Much more than medieval pest,cancer and AIDS combined.
xxwzaebd 4 months ago
@xxwzaebd None of the people who caused great amounts of deaths were Marxist. They used the thought of it to gain power, they didn't actually follow Marxism... You are saying random shit, it's annoying that you cant even get a solid argument, so I will no longer speak to such a troll. Good day
GZH1234 4 months ago
@GZH1234 How so? DPRK is based on the Juche idea, which is based on Marxism-Leninism.
EmretheYoruk 2 months ago
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@xxwzaebd do you even know who Milošević is?
lukazz434 3 months ago
Communists always kill people who are different.Stalin ,a hardcore Marxist liberal,did ethnic cleansing and genocide and forced relocation of people of other races and another marxist,Slobodan Milosevic,was no different. Therefore,marxist=murder ideology. No different than Nazi. Kim Jong Il does the same things. So Kim Jong Il is definitely a marxist.
xxwzaebd 7 months ago
@xxwzaebd
>Marxism and Liberalism
>Not mutually exclusive
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maraudingchimpanzee 6 months ago
The Russian translation is actually very close to the French original. Don't take the Wikipedia translations too seriously, they are crap.
chekvb 7 months ago
France been a left winger all the time.
SMGJohn 7 months ago
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There is no difference betweein communists and ustase-they all kill people who are different.
xxwzaebd 7 months ago
@xxwzaebd Thank you for your participation, Einstein.
iwanttobelieve 7 months ago
@xxwzaebd Looks like someone needs to go read some more. Maybe even go back to school.
MidnightAngel357 7 months ago
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North Korea's national anthem. Kim Jong Il=marxist.
xxwzaebd 7 months ago
@xxwzaebd wat
iwanttobelieve 7 months ago 9
@xxwzaebd Kim Jong Il is a Juche believer. North Korea is Juche and nothing close to Marxism or Communism itself. The only Communist part of North Korea is the state run economy.
SMGJohn 7 months ago
Kim Jong Il est un fasciste, son gouvernement pratiques eugéniques (la théorie nazie) et les massacres de ses propres concitoyens. Et les communistes le défendre comme «anti-impérialiste». Votre aveugle un anti-américanisme est pathétique. et vous avez l'audace de vous comparer à des partisans qui ont combattu Hitler. En réalité, celui qui défend les régimes communistes d'aujourd'hui, poursuit le sombre héritage du fascisme.
TheTollundWoman 8 months ago
@TheTollundWoman Encore un petit malin qui parle sans regarder plus loin que le bout de son nez. Si tu avais au moins lu la description de la vidéo, tu saurais qu'aucun Communiste un tant soi peu intègre ne soutient Kim Jong-il de quelque façon que ce soit. La Corée du Nord est un régime capitaliste-d'État, nationaliste et militariste qui, par ailleurs, ne perd même plus son temps à prétendre qu'il est un État "socialiste".
iwanttobelieve 8 months ago
@TheTollundWoman Et si l'anti-américanisme de base (souvent plus mis en avant encore par les néo-fascistes que par les staliniens d'ailleurs) est effectivement le niveau zéro de la critique sociale, ça ne rend en aucun cas des critiques sérieuses des politiques américaines (ou de ses alliés) obsolètes pour autant. Surtout quand on voit sur ta chaîne que tu es pro-Israélien ... et ça viendra parler de massacre de populations. Ton inculture historique comme politique est flagrante.
iwanttobelieve 8 months ago
non trolls know that socialism will be free or not at all
devyxmas 8 months ago
Viva l'Internationale. Je suis un communists et Je amier France.
Communist38 8 months ago
Пролетарии всех стран, объединяйтесь!
Proletarians of all countries, unite!
Stalin565 10 months ago
@Stalin565 Proletarians exist only in Third World.
stureremil1942 10 months ago
I'd also like to add that this is not the ORIGINAL version, the original version had the melody of the marseillaise
ShayCarlFan1000 1 year ago
@ShayCarlFan1000 The Worker's Marseillaise and the Internationale are two different songs, aren't they?
CapitalistOverlord 10 months ago
@CapitalistOverlord The original French words were written in June 1871 by Eugène Pottier (1816–1887, previously a member of the Paris Commune)[1] and were originally intended to be sung to the tune of La Marseillaise
- Sincerely,
Wikipedia
Article: The internationale
ShayCarlFan1000 10 months ago
Lenin didn't kill anyone, did he? I mean, Stalin did, of course.. but Lenin?
"I'm tired of reading "baw communists killd ppl they r dictatorz". Lenin, Stalin, Mao, and a bunch of other madmen did, but they were not real Communists"..
ShayCarlFan1000 1 year ago 9
@ShayCarlFan1000 Lenin was the closest to a communist
GoldPie11 1 year ago
@ShayCarlFan1000 Lenin (And Trotsky) are directly and indirectly reponsible for numerous abuses, including the repression of the Kronstadt Uprising and the Red Terror.
iwanttobelieve 1 year ago 3
@iwanttobelieve Kronstadt? That was a violent uprising. Would you have Tukhachevsky and Trotsky sit by and act as if they were not given the responsibility of protecting a sovereign entity?
I am defending them from their commonly attributed poor reputations, though I would not say they are legitimate revolutionaries. The reason being apparent in Marx's introduction to a Contribution to the Critique of Political Economy.
yadsik 11 months ago
@iwanttobelieve Revolutionary terror is necessary in class struggle.
stureremil1942 10 months ago
@ShayCarlFan1000 Yeah Kronstadt dude...
I like the communist theory but I lament how many communists see Lenin and Stalin etc as heroes - I disagree personally.
remyworldpeace 1 year ago
@ShayCarlFan1000
Communisme c'est le future de toute facon. La Constitution doit changer de base. On doit le faire.
PanosPan10 1 year ago
@PanosPan10 Why do you reply to my comment in french? I understood what you said, but i commented in english. Why did you reply in french?
ShayCarlFan1000 1 year ago
@ShayCarlFan1000
Lenin killed many people.
Onepretentiousdude 5 months ago
Enfin une version INTEGRALE de ce chant d'espoir et d'avenir. Ne serait-ce pas la voix de Marc Ogeret qui l'interprète ? Merci pour la publication.
manausk80 1 year ago
@manausk80 Si, c'est bien lui.
iwanttobelieve 1 year ago
8 people have guevos.
Frankdtankspanks 1 year ago
加油！中国特色社会主义继续前进！
iamlcf50 1 year ago
Thanks for posting!
Philflash 1 year ago
Is this the parody of 'Beasts Of England' from Animal Farm?
MrWriter95 1 year ago
@MrWriter95 What do you mean?
Gonnakillyou 1 year ago
C'est la lutte finale
CroissantOrange 1 year ago
Rise up people of France!
Solidarity against the capitalist austerity programs, and the attack on the working class! End corporate subsidies, military spending and war!
Workers of the world, unite! For freedom, peace, equality, and justice!
wnxsilence 1 year ago 13
If only we had the communist spirit today like we have had sixty years ago, things might be a little bit different. I mean I'm not in favor of the Russian and Chinese communism, but you have to admit they did bring some goods to the world as we know it nowadays, especially to the liberation of countries around the globe.
xuanhien1988 1 year ago
Communism could have been a good idea; it just didn't work, the world cannot live on socialism, we all know that. Every country who adopted it jsut went broke....
MrWhitescarf 1 year ago
Humanity must save itself, before we can dream of saving the fragile world which has sustained us to this point. This world and its environment is threatened by capitalist disrespect, destruction, and waste.
Workers of the world unite! For peace, freedom, democracy, equality, and direct control of production by the workers and people themselves! Victory to the people!
Down with all forms of opression, tyranny, and exploitation!
Solidarity comrades, don't ridicule....organize!!!
wnxsilence 1 year ago
Thank you very much for the download link :)
SandroSwordfire 1 year ago
Hahaha, you lost commie pigs!!!
paleocon23 1 year ago
you're far left loons. its thanks to all of these that socialism, communism and marxism is the reason why Europe is going down the pan. It's also the reason why our liberties including freedom of speech and getting slowly taken away from by being more and more controlled through political correctness and big goverment. giving all this social jusice nonsense as well . only limited government and faith in god will set us free, truth and justice (equal justice not social justice) will set us free
thebairns1876 1 year ago
@thebairns1876 I believe that the average human -and every other kind of human- will have a far more fulfilled life in Norway than in Germany, or even the USA. So that would mean you are utterly wrong. Maybe you just have weird standards though, or the Capitalist Bolshevik Jews blended me.
And what about that religious exclusivism? Isn't that a bit... well... not liberal?
Gonnakillyou 1 year ago
I don't think you can consider Lenin as a "fake communist", Stalin and Mao certainly, but Lenin along with his second man Trotsky were very much civil libertarians and Economic communists.
chrisolaf530 1 year ago
FINALLY, a version with ALL the stanzas on YouTube! Thanks a lot, iwanttobelieve! The 4th stanza has always been one of my favorites.
UncutRubber 1 year ago
Amazed when people strawman socialism as unrealistic egalitarian utopians - its about producers demanding their dues from vultures, which through peaceful concessions to class conscious workers has slowly been delivered in some parts of the world - shame how slow change comes in, say, America, how others have hijacked the movement for their own purposes, and worst how some in the socialist-democracies of Europe, alienated from the conditions the song railed against, really do push that strawman.
unassumption 1 year ago
Thank you for uploading this, I'm going to memorize the lyrics and sing it in my shower tonight. Long live Marxism!
Vostoek 1 year ago
vive l'internationale, travailleir du monde unis!!!!!!!!
Focapolina 1 year ago
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xarworld 1 year ago
"The Russian version has edited lyrics, advocating militarism, whereas the original calls for Peace."
Only a fool would believe that the corporate giants of today are just going to roll over and die when, or if, democracy rises against it.
Lenin had it right when he said that a transitional dictatorship and violence are necessary to kill the capitalist pigs before communism can be established. Lenin simply formed and applied a more realistic version of Marxism.
xCreScenDo 1 year ago
@xCreScenDo Yeah. Yeah, of course, Kronstadt was FULL of "capitalist pigs", right ? In the end, only freedom and the people suffered. There is a difference between waging social war on the capital; and using coercion as a mean to crush dissidence, whether it was in fact reactionary or just didn't correspond to the Bolshevik's authoritarian view of things.
iwanttobelieve 1 year ago 16
@iwanttobelieve, I think both you and xCreScendo have a distorted view of Bolshevism. Let's talk about it.
zackawful 1 year ago
@iwanttobelieve well said.
raccoonman14 1 year ago
@iwanttobelieve You do forget that Kronstadt was a NAVAL coup and this was the 1920s. No country at the time would have acted any differently than Lenin towards them, and he was gracious in his description and reaction,. He called it "the spark which lit up the truth better than anything else" before following with the NEP. (In fact if you were a non-Russian you gained more freedom under Lenin. Within a month of the revolution, Lenin granted Finland independence. Stalin was the dictator.)
MyVacillation 1 year ago
@MyVacillation The spark which lit up the thruth ? More like the spark the Bolsheviks suppressed so that the thruth wouldn't go "boom" in their face. And just because "other countries" (You mean, capitalist countries ?) would have reacted in the same way doesn't make the repression legitimate in any way ; actually, it would even prove bourgeois democracy and soviet republic had something in common. And they do : Neither tolerates individual indepedence.
iwanttobelieve 1 year ago
@iwanttobelieve Do you know what that quote was about; the failure of war communism during the civil war 1917-1921? Admitting and FIXING your mistake is not suppression. My point: many other nations I bet you would not post such qualitative, baseless statements upon as Lenin, were doing the same thing. When considering a person's quality you have to take into account their time period. Considering his country's past and the outside pressures, they did well until Stalin stole the revolution.
MyVacillation 1 year ago
@MyVacillation "Admitting" his mistake ? The Kronstadt mutineers were sent the Red Army, denied food supplies and subject to torture and summary executions. More than 2,000 revolutionaries died for advocating true Communism. Who could call that "fixing" a mistake ? The Revolution was stolen way before Stalin came to power ; it was stolen when some Party claimed to be the avant-garde and pretended they had to lead the Revolution themselves.
iwanttobelieve 1 year ago
@iwanttobelieve Do you know what the NEP is; the New Economic Policy? Or war communism? Do you understand the past or current policies of dealing with military coups or mutinies? I would call reinstating a monetary salary, allowing small businesses, and the like, 'fixing' past policies which had proven to not work. (Also, it was not the Red Army, it was the Checka. Not an organization I would tolerate now or on my own soil, but hardly surprising considering the influence of the previous Okrana.)
MyVacillation 1 year ago
@iwanttobelieve oh, in the NEP he also allowed the farmers to sell their crop again instead of distributing it as he saw fit without monetary compensation but with the promise of tractors in the future. He continued to take land and divide it this point such as wealthy manors and the church's land, and the government still controlled big business, but the black market for food disappeared and farmers (and workers) took more interest in their production and jobs.
MyVacillation 1 year ago
@MyVacillation I do know what War Communism and the NEP were about. This isn't the problem. Kronstadt mutineers wanted Communism in its true form, that's why the Bolsheviks crushed them. Actually, how Lenin dealt with the mutiny isn't even the issue ; the problem is that he did deal with it. And both the Red Army and the Cheka were used : The first for food shortage, population containment and direct repression, and the later for carrying out arrests, torture and executions.
iwanttobelieve 1 year ago
@iwanttobelieve Do you honestly suggest that any country should allow a mutiny to go unaddressable? I assume you wanted them to go unpunished, but this is the military. Had it been a civilian protest I would suggest it be dealt with differently, I would be horribly disappointed if any civilian who did not violently protest was punished, but this was not the case.
MyVacillation 1 year ago
@iwanttobelieve (not to say that civilians were not harshly, even unethically dealt with at times. But since this is about the Kronstadt rebellion.)
MyVacillation 1 year ago
@iwanttobelieve Kronstadt was full of Mensheviks.
stureremil1942 10 months ago
@xCreScenDo
Killing a class does not require blood. Classes are a manifestation of the capitalist system, so abolishing that does away with classes and thus with the pigs. Besides, capitalists are by nature the minority, so crushing them with guns like you suggest is completely unnecessary. Spending that kind of money on guns only increases the burden on the working masses.
commissarusa 1 year ago
@xCreScenDo no marx knew there had to be revolution, he clearly stated so.
ottoskorzey 1 year ago
@xCreScenDo Installing effective measures to decrease and maybe even disintegrate economic and other kinds of repression does not necessitate a civil war.
Gonnakillyou 1 year ago
Wait, what are you talking about? Transitional dictatorship? Lenin was one of the most avid and articulate defenders of workers' democracy.
When you say more realistic version of Marxism, who in your mind represents the unrealistic version? I think Lenin would call himself an orthodox Marxist through and through.
zackawful 1 year ago 2
@xCreScenDo He was wrong about that actually, communism is a state of peaceful anarchy, the very concept of government is anathema to it. Whether or not he was motivated by greed or sought to change human nature, I can't say. The latter is required for communism to work, and it won't come about through political change. The only possibilities for that kind of change are all technological in nature. If you want me to elaborate on that though, just let me know.
baronofcheese 1 year ago
@baronofcheese By "he" do you mean Vladimir Lenin?
There have been plenty of responses to my original post. Since they're all, essentially, based on the same line of thought, I'll respond to all of you at once:
Do some reading on Leninism. Marx, the dumb Jew, did not understand Russia like Lenin did, nor the nature of his own concept as well as Lenin. I'm sure you will find two things of note. First, that the communism Marx presented is not practical. The damn Jew presented only the....
xCreScenDo 1 year ago
@xCreScenDo ...most idealistic form of communism. Do you really think that, today, people can just vote, or whatever Marx was thinking, themselves out of slavery?
What I tried saying earlier is that Marx was all theory, Lenin was implementation of theory. Thus, "Lenin's communism" was simply more realistic than Marx's. Violence and suppression included. It was just necessary.
xCreScenDo 1 year ago
@xCreScenDo Yet it's undeniable that by applying the theory in such a way, he effectively negated it entirely. Even if Lenin hadn't invalidated it through violence and suppression, human nature would have done that for him. You see, humans are driven towards control as a means of securing mates and sustenance, as are most animals, it's simply a necessary survival instinct.
baronofcheese 1 year ago
@xCreScenDo These instincts are what allow adaptation to hostile environmemnts. Humans however, are capable of adapting hostile environments to suit their needs. This isn't really a phenomenon unique to humans, but no other known species has done it to such a degree as humanity has. This in turn has resulted in our baser instincts becoming more and more detrimental to our interests, to the point that humanity has long since supplanted nature as its worst enemy.
baronofcheese 1 year ago
@xCreScenDo The only way for communism to succeed in any manner or degree, is for that drive to be eliminated. This could be done through genetics, thought it would inevitably result in humanity's rapid extinction. The other option is enabling humanity to reach an entirely different level of consciousness, universal empathy that is.
baronofcheese 1 year ago
@xCreScenDo I honestly don't know if it's possible at all, or what the repercussions would be if it was, but if every individual was aware of every other individual's thoughts and emotions as though they were their own, it would theoretically render it impossible to sate the baser desires through inflicting adversity on others since the individual that does so would also feel the negative consequences as if they applied to them.
baronofcheese 1 year ago
Long Live Communism!
begbie1984 2 years ago
Bravo, c'est merveilleux! Merci!
UkyoSensuke 2 years ago
Merci pour la superbe version... Il est vrai que la version française est un condencé de rêves. Merveilleux.
CoyoteDis 2 years ago
Kind of ironic, but I think that the soundtrack of this song was not allowed for a little while by some copyright dispute.
Lyriapersiana 2 years ago
Thank you for uploading this. Couldn't agree more with what you wrote in the infotext. Greetings from Sweden.
LIDLJUGEND 2 years ago
Umm... While I'm sure a very few of the Communards might have agreed with some of your statements in their later years, all would have longed to shoot Milton Friedman in his cradle, just look at their reaction to Louis Philippe and later to Louis Napoleon. Also, libertarianism that close on the heels of Haussmannization and immediately following the Franco-Prussian War and the Seige of Paris? The city needed healing. It was getting bullets in 35,000 people. It did not need libertarianism!
LeoKat256 2 years ago
You mean the Paris Commune of 1871? I thought Engels called it the "Dictatorship of the Proletariat." (even though the term was first coined by Joseph Weydemeyer)
DonKhoi 2 years ago
It was interesting. The Communal Counsel itself was in what they considered themselves (which could be more than one thing) two thirds International Workingman's Association, one third neo-Jacobin, one third Blanquist, some Prudhonists, and some Independents. It consisted of some workers, some painters, some journalists, some poets and novelists, some doctors, some teachers, etc. They believed in the goal of feeding everyone and getting everyone up and running again after the Seige.
LeoKat256 2 years ago
This song was written on the barricades of the Commune (or soon after, either way as an FU to the Third Republic).
LeoKat256 2 years ago
"as the Internationale music was published beforeit is in the public domain in the USA.[8] Pierre De Geyter's music is also in the public domain in countries and areas whose copyright durations are authors' lifetime plus 75 years or less. As Eugène Pottier died in 1887, his original French lyrics are in the public domain."
Found at wikipedia (The internationale),
It is in public domain! They have no rights over it, they can't block this track!!!
MarxistStudant 2 years ago