ΑΡΑΧΩΒΑ ( ARACHOVA ) POPULAR HELLENIC MUSIC , τσάμικο

[agon1984]

this is not camiko.. tsamiko..a this si the real dance.../watch?v=3dcksjUoSUA

[RomiosHellas]

The legend[11] on the coins was in ancient Greek, and is as follows: (Greek: ΒΑΣΙ ΓΕΝ), or (Greek: ΒΑΣΙΛΕΟΥΣ ΓΕΝΘΙΟΥ) which came from Scodra.

[kapo1821]

@RomiosHellas we arvanites hahahah, then speak arvanitika ashole hahah

[RomiosHellas]

@kapo1821 Μορ κοτσίδε δρακολέ

βε του μου στρο, βε Τε μου φλιε

Μορ κοτσίδε ντρέδουρου

σου μου τα καμπλιέ ρου

Ντο τα πρες κοτσίδε του

το τα βρετ Τε κιντετ

Ντο τα πρες, ντο τα πρες

ντο τα πρες κορδέλιε του

ντο τα βριτ γκαπε ρε τι

του τα πρες κοτσίδε του, του τα πρες κοτσίδε του

[agon1984]

@RomiosHellas  /watch?v=bsjUKLn9c94

[gyreenedoc]

@agon1984 Ζήτω στην Ελλάδα

[RomiosHellas]

Arvanites are Greeks - simple, dont fall for Skipter propaganda

[kapo1821]

@RomiosHellas what propaganda asholes everyone knows what arberor (arvanites as u call them) realy are. Only people on planet grik dont know it numnuts. long live the real arberor

[RomiosHellas]

@kapo1821 lol! you are a skiptar - we arvanites have never heard of that. dont you know skiptaria is a product of the austrohungarians and the turks???

[gyreenedoc]

@kapo1821 what is a grik?

[agon1984]

@gyreenedoc /watch?v=bsjUKLn9c94

[TheRoumeliotis]

etsi gera h araxova !!!! apo eki erxome

stin arahova oute enas turkos patise podi !!! geia sas leventes !!!

[agon1984]

@TheRoumeliotis  /watch?v=bsjUKLn9c94

[ponticwarrior]

Northern Epirus will be taken back in due time then you will experience pontic c firsthand as it was back in the 40ies. But if you want to make it happen sooner then come yourself and try to fetch Epirus.

[ponticwarrior]

Dear Albanians, until we retain Northern Epirus and cut off your bloody tongues, till then shut up and enjoy.

[bylysi]

hahahaha look at this kurd christians threatening us.ahahaha

pontic faggot listen here.the only thing pontians know how to do is get killed and call themselves greek while looking like kurds.

[agon1984]

what an ugly dance, look those fustanella, whwuahahahahahah what are you doing trying to copie albanians, that music.. ehkkk man,. cocksucker greeks

[balkancoolhead]

Να ζισει ι αττικοvοιοτια και ολλοι οι Αρvανιτεσ...

[chicagogeorge]

Try using a better online translator....

[balkancoolhead]

we know, we know, we know...

no patrioti, you and your byzantine fans "know" or more accurately "believe" the interpretations your own fans influenced, during the albanian "blackout" period during most of the 20th century... but everything has changed now.

and all of these subjects have entered a period of unprecedented re-examination.

you and i have spoken before, so i know you are a good guy, but not terribly imaginative since you can only operate within a context established by others.

[balkancoolhead]

anyway, i hope you and your family are enjoying the summer...

[kostakii1030]

can u die in peace please thank you don't come again

[balkancoolhead]

there was a time when many of these foreign writers relied upon "greek" "intellectuals" to help with sourcing and understanding history. they were not aware of the influence of politics and nationalism and the conspiracy to destroy or bury the Illyrian identity, and thereby finish off the Albanians.

people are more skeptical now, understandably so. and new more advanced methodologies for understanding language and culture are replacing your fascist malaka points of view with science.

[balkancoolhead]

chicagoGjergj, i give you credit for one thing: the ability to change your position, give new information.

whereas in the past you were excreting a view of Epirus as exclusively greek in origin, you now admit there were other components, of which Illyrian "probably" plays a role.

my hats off to you patrioti! you are still a self-righteous copy/paste nationalist with a singular agenda, but at least you have proven that even the balkans, people can change.

giassou arvanita! are you one?

[chicagogeorge]

If you believe that the Albanian language is an ancestor of Illyrian, then you must contact Cambridge tell them re-evaluate the well established theory that Albanian being an Satem tongue and what we know of Illyrian being a Centum tongue, and thus the two cannot be interlinked.

Either way, we KNOW that Illyrians did not arrive in the north Epirus region until 1100b.c, and we know that the Greeks were there before 2200 b.c. The first mention of Albanians in Epirus come around 1360 AD...

[chicagogeorge]

btw, no, I am not an Arvanite.. to my knowledge.... but since you like to call me copy paste read this:

and

"Albanians living within Greece identify themselves with the Greeks. The Greek-Albanian hears with DISPLEASURE when he is called by his natural name, for he looks on it as synonymous with barbarian; he calls himself a Hellene, and prides himself on the appellation."

Westminster Review Jan and April 1854

[balkancoolhead]

interesting. reminds one of the poor self image that africans had in america prior to the civil rights movement. it was considered derogatory to call them "africans", whereas now it seems to be a source of pride.

textbook definition of ptsd and reaction to persecution and systematic destruction of an ethnic or cultural self image?

[balkancoolhead]

i never suggested you were an Arvanite by the way chicagoGjergj, perhaps you are a descendant of a greek family that received Cam Albanian property after the mass expulsions and are therefore naturally predisposed to defending a crazy notion that Çameria (Tsameria) is somehow a later appellation than Epirus.

chicago, you are out of your league. not from a lack of intelligence or capacity to regurgitate, but more from a lack of imagination or courage to challenge corrupt conventions.

[chicagogeorge]

"Epirus (the mainland) was a humid and forested region, inhabted by 14 clans some Dorian Greek descent and othes of non Greek Illyrian blood"

pg 91

OXFORD Dictionary of the Ancient Greek World by David Sacks, Oswyn Murray, Margaret Bunson

"The first Grek speakers.... arrived in Greece on the most WIDELY ACCPTED VIEW a the beginning of the Early Hellaic III, that is, around 2300b.c. They came by way of EPIRUS."

OXFORD INDO-EUROPEAN POETRY AND MYTH BY ML WEST g8

[chicagogeorge]

"whereas the homeland of the speakers of Doric and Northwest Greek is traditionally placed in northern Thessaly and Epirus."

pg130

"The dialect continuum of Bronze Age Greece as drawn above takes this EVIDENCE futher in that it shows that by 2000 b.c. Greek was spread without disruption over the entire territory of Greece FROM EPIRUS to the north to Lacedaemon in the south"

pg 134

Greeks and pre-Greeks by Margalit Finkelberg

[chicagogeorge]

"According to a traditional view, modern ALbanian is descended from Illyrian.... but what little is known about Illyrian argues AGAINST close affiliation with ALbanian becuase it belongs to a very different group of Indo-European languages and therefore cannot be the ancestor of modern Albanian"

Trends In Linguistics Studies and Mongrpahs 93; Hans Henrich Hock, Brian D. Jospeh

[chicagogeorge]

Deal with this.....

Strabo Geography Book VII 1a

"t is further said that in the lnguage of the Molossians and Thesprotians ols women are called "PELAI" and old men "PELIOI"....... as is also the case among the Macedonians at any rate, those people call their dignitaries "PELIGONES".

and then Pyrrhus by PLUTARCH....

"From himAchilles came to have dicine honours in EPIRUS, under the name ASPETOS, in the language of that country"

Can you translate these words for me.LOL!

[luginalal]

P(E)LAI=PLAKe (old women) in Albanian

P(E)LOI=PLAK (old man) in Albanian

ASPETOS=A SHPEIT (the fast, the runner)in Albanian.

PELIGONES=PLEQESI in Albanian (the counsel of old men)

PHYRR-US=BURRE in Albanian(in the meaning of the strong man).What else do you want.Tell me the meaning of these words in new Greek language please.

[chicagogeorge]

Some sources call the Souliotes Albanians others Greeks. What is for sure is that the Souliotes fought for a Greek independence. NOT an Albanian one.

Second, you are the only one with dillusions. I suggest you refill your prescription soon....

"Souliotes wo defended themselves for nearly 20 years from Ali Pacha. They were a tribe of Greeks, about 10,000 in number..."

Ancient and Modern Geography;

By Aaron Arrowsmith; 1839

[xlalos]

Το βιντεο ειναι από εκδήλωση Καθαρά Δευτέρα που οργάνωσε ο Δήμος Αθηναίων στο Λόφο του Φιλοπάπου και το τραγούδι είναι η ΑΡΑΧΩΒΑ

[MarkoMonte]

this dance is of is southern albanians heritage

[pamauridis]

there is not southern albanian there is north epirus moggole

[MarkoMonte]

"there is no" sounds like a non-european. Indeed, sounds like an arab mentality.... not surprised... there are many of arab origin in greece... ( modern Greece-blackhole of europe - that's what one hears often hears in Brussels)

[JimmyTheGreek2000]

Brussels is is like Wishington! Condensending!

Tellings what to do! We know what to do!

Telling us who we ere! We know who we are!

[konig82]

where did you learn about Brussels and Europe turkomongol?

Please clean your mouth before you use greek words, like Europe or history.

[chicagogeorge]

Marko, why don't you ask yourself who invented the idea of Europe, and where that word originates.... then come back and talk to us, little barbarian!Lol!

[balkancoolhead]

chicagoGjergj, did you see the updated wikipedia descriptions of Souliotes, Arvanites and Albania? i told you, it's a tidal wave... all the "greek" delusions are being shattered, one by one... next is your biggest fear, the definitive link with the Illyrians... it's coming soon.

don't fret, it's good for greece in the long run... we have to encourage her to become a more open modern society... at present, it's a corrupt mess.

[balkancoolhead]

and the arvanites are getting more and more comfortable connecting with us, despite the open hostility towards albanians in greek society...

did you really think the sons and daughters of Skanderbeg would just sit idly by while fanatics and extremists tried to rewrite us out of history?

think again patrioti... NO ONE has EVER been able to extinguish the Illyrian identity, not greeks, not romans, not slavs, not ottomans, no one.

[chicagogeorge]

Laughing MY ASS OFF!

Go meet an Arvanite and tell him he is Albanian. Then run for your life. LOL!

[chicagogeorge]

You should say it the other way around.

No one has been able to extinguish the Greek identity, since the Greek language has been spoken in the southern Balkans longer than any other.....

"A sriking historical fact about Greek is that over this long period of virtually CONTINUOUS DOCUMENTATION, this banch maintained its IDENTITY as a single language down to the present day. "

The Indo European Languages Anna Giacalone Ramat and Paolo Ramat; pg 28

[chicagogeorge]

"There are no texts surviving from the Illyrian language in classical times although Greek references do mention the Illyrians in what is now Yugoslavia and ALbania. Modern Albanian MAY be descended from the ancient Illyrian language OR POSSIBLY from Thracian"

Archaeology and Language by Colin Renfrew pg 69

[chicagogeorge]

First of all, I always knew that the Arvanites and the Souliotes were mixed between Greeks and Hellenized Albanians that settled Greece in the 13-15 century AD.

"The ALbanian speaking populations of Greece and Italy arose probably between the thirteenth and fifteenth centuries"

Indo-European Language an Culture

Benjamin Fortson IV

[chicagogeorge]

Let's seem what REAL scholars have written about the Albanian language...

"The linguistic records of the Illyrias, Thracians, and Dacians are just sufficient to make it reasonably certain that they were all Indo-European. NOTHING in what is known of them SO FAR shows any particular connection with what we know of Albanian."

Encyclopedia ofIndo European Culture, JP Mallory and DQ Adams pg9

[epirioti1]

beutiful song but in north epir they dance it better

[konig82]

I dont think, you know that in southern albania many greek people are living.

[chicagogeorge]

This dance is found throughout mainland Greece, and ONLY in southern Albania....

So tell me, do Albanian Kossovites dance this!

[macedonika]

Bravo palikaria.

[Dykefalos]

opa kai sou leo ENA KEFI!!!

[arkoudos81]

Den 3erw poia Araxwva einai, pantws tou parnassou den einai sigoura.

[CosmoWizard]

Ki esy pou to ksereis? :S kala oxi oti kanei mpam oti einai h araxoba alla... ayth einai...

[CosmakosAsanser]

ΣΗΜΕΙΩΣΗ: ''G****a'' = Γεωργια... Apla san eksigisi!

[CosmakosAsanser]

Axxxxxxx araxwba!... ap oti mporw na katalabw eiste sto anoixto theatro pou exete! poly cool! irtha perisi ekei kai perasa teleia! eroreytika ki olas! axxxx araxwba tha sou ksanartho! Ax ''G****a'' tha sou ksanartho! :D