What field for programming did you use for power down and back up after a fire alarm? I find this as a big issue on my FA168CPS (20P) for any fire alarm which requires manual restart to clear latch of a 4-wire detector. When using this field, I'm assuming it will only execute for fire alarms only?
@ti17540 Sorry for the late response. This feature is built in to the panel I had at the time (Vista 10SE). The 20P will not do this. In order to reset 4-wire detectors on the 20P, you have to use one of the built in triggers (or a relay). This is clearly explained in the installer/programming manuals, but if you need more help, send me a PM.
@jman66053 alot of american detectors use magnets to test but here in the uk we either use smoke spray or buttons check my videos for uk detector tests and if u watch ud probally wonder how old i am . . . im 13!
Why does the system shut down and then restart after testing the smoke dector with a magnet? Mine does that too, I just thought somthing was wrong with it.
The system doesn't actually shut down- on the Vista SE series panels, the auxiliary current is interrupted during a fire alarm reset, instead of having to use a trigger or relay to do it. Convenient, but since the keypad is also connected to the auxiliary power, the keypad is momentarily interrupted too. Nothing to worry about.
As far as the keypad function (not RF function), yes. The system featured in the video originally had a 6128 as well, and upgraded without any programming to a 6160 (short of zone descriptors, which you won't need to worry about). The only thing you will have to set is the keypad address (which is stored in the keypad). If you have a Vista 10SE, then you'll set its address to 31 (non-addressable mode). The keypads instructions will describe how to do it.
Just ordered a replacement board for my 10P.. upgrading it to a 20SE. Also replacing the broken 6160 keypad with a 6139R. (alpha, red for Fire). Should work out nicely...
After researching it a little more I'm not really sure. This cabinet was originally installed by an alarm company, not by me, so I'm not sure if this is the standard Vista 10SE cabinet. I've upgraded since this video to a Vista 10P and its the same cabinet that comes with that system, which is UL listed for commercial burglary.
Thanks. I am in the process of tearing out an OLD, OLD panel and replacing it with a 10P.
How many amp-hours is your battery rated for? I ordered a 12Ah battery, and I really hope it fits. If not, Ill have to drop 50 bucks on a bigger UL commercial cabinet.
This battery is 7 AH. Also, I checked the installer's manual, and the cabinet in this video is the factory Vista 10SE cabinet. It measures 12.5" W x 14.5" H x 3" D. This cabinet ships standard with all the Vista panels. The optional "UL Cabinet" is 14.5" W x 18" H x 4.3" D. I don't quite understand why this is referred to as the "UL cabinet", as both the smaller and larger sizes are UL listed for commercial burglary.
I've heard some of the honeywell systems have voice on top of the same sounding fire alarm when it is triggered it says "fire fire smoke detected, remain clam, leave immediately" well something like that. Is your system monitored so a call centre will receive a fire or intruder signal.
Some of the higher-end models have voice/siren drivers on board (eg. Apex models) that would likely sound as you describe. This system is not currently monitored.
The smoke detector and the keypad are powered by the same circuit (12VDC aux power), which interrupts to reset the smoke detector. Therefore, when this occurs, both lose power.
A magnet; the upside-down 'T' on the left side of the smoke detector has a reed switch underneath, which activates a test alarm. This detector is designed for use with commercial fire alarm systems too, where a test button wouldn't be a good idea.
Well, I wanted something unmarked since this is used for fire and burglary (plus my AS is 24 volts and not for pulsed circuits). I was thinking about a white Wheelock HS for this spot, but decided on a piezo instead.
was your system installed and montered by a company?
firealarmfreak101 2 weeks ago
change tone! horn code 3
computer5892 3 months ago
What field for programming did you use for power down and back up after a fire alarm? I find this as a big issue on my FA168CPS (20P) for any fire alarm which requires manual restart to clear latch of a 4-wire detector. When using this field, I'm assuming it will only execute for fire alarms only?
ti17540 4 months ago
@ti17540 Sorry for the late response. This feature is built in to the panel I had at the time (Vista 10SE). The 20P will not do this. In order to reset 4-wire detectors on the 20P, you have to use one of the built in triggers (or a relay). This is clearly explained in the installer/programming manuals, but if you need more help, send me a PM.
buhaw12 3 months ago
what did you use to set off the detector?
jman66053 7 months ago
@jman66053 lol a magnet !
djkid9 6 months ago
@djkid9 oh i didnt know that
jman66053 6 months ago
@jman66053 alot of american detectors use magnets to test but here in the uk we either use smoke spray or buttons check my videos for uk detector tests and if u watch ud probally wonder how old i am . . . im 13!
djkid9 6 months ago
@djkid9 lol im 13 too
jman66053 6 months ago
nice crib!!!
ericcub7 8 months ago
Nice... A SpectrAlert Advance mini-horn.
Farenheit4051 1 year ago
at the start of the video what you was having got in the hand??
DJNEMBRO 1 year ago
@DJNEMBRO a magnet to set the detector off.
WheelockAlarms 1 year ago
not a safe idea to video your house and then post in public. (feed backs)
kayangthao 1 year ago
what's the horn that you have outside?
kidsruledude 2 years ago
Why does the system shut down and then restart after testing the smoke dector with a magnet? Mine does that too, I just thought somthing was wrong with it.
Garner65 3 years ago
The system doesn't actually shut down- on the Vista SE series panels, the auxiliary current is interrupted during a fire alarm reset, instead of having to use a trigger or relay to do it. Convenient, but since the keypad is also connected to the auxiliary power, the keypad is momentarily interrupted too. Nothing to worry about.
willbill808 3 years ago
Okay, good to know! Thanks. I have another question for you. My system has an Ademco 6128 fixed Display keypad. I just ordered a
6150RF keypad. Can I just switch them out without having to reprogram any zones or codes?
Garner65 3 years ago
As far as the keypad function (not RF function), yes. The system featured in the video originally had a 6128 as well, and upgraded without any programming to a 6160 (short of zone descriptors, which you won't need to worry about). The only thing you will have to set is the keypad address (which is stored in the keypad). If you have a Vista 10SE, then you'll set its address to 31 (non-addressable mode). The keypads instructions will describe how to do it.
buhaw12 3 years ago
Okay, thanks! And it doesn't sound like its too difficult to program wireless zones.
Garner65 3 years ago
Cool.
Just ordered a replacement board for my 10P.. upgrading it to a 20SE. Also replacing the broken 6160 keypad with a 6139R. (alpha, red for Fire). Should work out nicely...
willbill808 3 years ago
@Garner65 that happend at a school. A red keypad was doing the same
ilovepolice1 1 year ago
Are you using the factory cabinet?
Or are you using the VISTA-ULKT?
I wouldn't think a battery of that size would fit in the factory cabinet...
willbill808 3 years ago
Its the factory cabinet. Two of those batteries will actually fit in it.
buhaw12 3 years ago
After researching it a little more I'm not really sure. This cabinet was originally installed by an alarm company, not by me, so I'm not sure if this is the standard Vista 10SE cabinet. I've upgraded since this video to a Vista 10P and its the same cabinet that comes with that system, which is UL listed for commercial burglary.
buhaw12 3 years ago
Thanks. I am in the process of tearing out an OLD, OLD panel and replacing it with a 10P.
How many amp-hours is your battery rated for? I ordered a 12Ah battery, and I really hope it fits. If not, Ill have to drop 50 bucks on a bigger UL commercial cabinet.
willbill808 3 years ago
This battery is 7 AH. Also, I checked the installer's manual, and the cabinet in this video is the factory Vista 10SE cabinet. It measures 12.5" W x 14.5" H x 3" D. This cabinet ships standard with all the Vista panels. The optional "UL Cabinet" is 14.5" W x 18" H x 4.3" D. I don't quite understand why this is referred to as the "UL cabinet", as both the smaller and larger sizes are UL listed for commercial burglary.
buhaw12 3 years ago
Good to know the magnetic switch works, but you still have no idea if the detector will reliably detect smoke.
fuzzywindjammer 3 years ago
I've heard some of the honeywell systems have voice on top of the same sounding fire alarm when it is triggered it says "fire fire smoke detected, remain clam, leave immediately" well something like that. Is your system monitored so a call centre will receive a fire or intruder signal.
callmewilson 3 years ago
Some of the higher-end models have voice/siren drivers on board (eg. Apex models) that would likely sound as you describe. This system is not currently monitored.
buhaw12 3 years ago
this vid made me realize that i love the MHW.
pivotous 3 years ago
I just bought 2 of those smokes... I'm gonna put em up and wire them in.
Mine are the 4-wire type.
Also, they are very small!
willbill808 3 years ago
what did you put next to the smoke detector
ilikepie55901 4 years ago
That is the Reset Process
jackdennis1 4 years ago
?...
ilikepie55901 4 years ago
The Reset of the system so that it can clear the alarm.
jackdennis1 4 years ago
no the thing that set off the alarm
ilikepie55901 4 years ago
Read two comments down.
buhaw12 4 years ago
Why did your alarm keypad go blank and then come back on, as if it restarted itself. Was that like a reset thing it was going through?
capricorn7086 4 years ago
The smoke detector and the keypad are powered by the same circuit (12VDC aux power), which interrupts to reset the smoke detector. Therefore, when this occurs, both lose power.
buhaw12 4 years ago
i like it but what was that black thing you started the test with?
sirengeek 4 years ago
A magnet; the upside-down 'T' on the left side of the smoke detector has a reed switch underneath, which activates a test alarm. This detector is designed for use with commercial fire alarm systems too, where a test button wouldn't be a good idea.
buhaw12 4 years ago
you should hook up your AS for this instead. That would be cool
alarm56 4 years ago
Well, I wanted something unmarked since this is used for fire and burglary (plus my AS is 24 volts and not for pulsed circuits). I was thinking about a white Wheelock HS for this spot, but decided on a piezo instead.
buhaw12 4 years ago
is that piezo sounder loud?
danll5 4 years ago 2
Yeah its pretty loud, at least as loud as an 85 dB smoke alarm; it can be heard throughout the house.
buhaw12 4 years ago
Loud alarms discurage burglars
danll5 4 years ago
Sick, man!
willbill808 4 years ago 2
wow nice system, you should install a second keypad!
mysterykid200 4 years ago
Nice house.
NLind 4 years ago
lol
tornadofreak1994 4 years ago
Nice system
danll5 4 years ago 2
Awesome
alarm56 4 years ago