@MrMraggies1996 I am a third year Mechanical Engineer major am minoring in math, and i can say that it is not as hard as you might think it is. With good professors, which I am blessed to have had, it is all step by step and easy to follow.
@MrMraggies1996 Depending on how good your professors are, you may or may not have to work harder than you thought to do well. But it comes down to, do you enjoy it enough to work hard at it to pass you class with an A? Also, even though being a math professor is a very rewarding job, you can not be guaranteed a position because it is competitive field, so pair you math degree with another science minor or major in a field you enjoy to make it easier to get a jobwhenyougraduate.
Ever since I saw this video on youtube, I watch this EVERY SINGLE morning while brushing my teeth because this gives me so much hope for my future in Mathematics and Computer Science, thank you guys for this very inspirational video it really gives me hope in the biggest way. you really have no idea, THANK YOU!
i dont mind math but im just not good at it im also very slow at math but i dont like to solve sodokue i think thats how u spell it puzzels. But im slow at it so that might be a problem for me as for getting a job. what im interested in it computers idk what i want to be in the computer world but im very interested in computers and how they work. But i heard that most people who are smart have jobs in that field so idk but i know im interested in that type of job. Im 17 and a jr in high school.
@sawaugust There is nothing wrong with being slow, as long as you are accurate. I mean maybe it can be hard to finish a test in time but that is why you practice, so you know right away what the next step is given a scenario.
saying "We Use Math" is like if painters say "We Use Paint and Canvas" or writers say "We Use Grammar" or sculptors say "We Use Clay".....You can know all properties of clay, yet what you make of it can be crap and not sculpture. You can know all properties of grammar and language and yet what you write can be crap and not a novel. Math is a nice, elegant tool, but how it is taught in school is misleading and 90% wrong, at least in my view.
@QuantDesign and this is why only years after leaving school do I find myself interested in Math, they really do a good job of making it the most boring joyless subject, at least everywhere I had classes.Such a shame
@youwinoneinternets I wanted to learn to walk when I was two, but falling down made it so joyless and boring. Same with learning to ride a bike. All that practice. And don't get me started on memorizing the alphabet. There is nothing interesting you can do in math without going through the boring parts first. The teachers didn't make it boring and joyless, that was your bad lifestyle choice. The people in the video didn't find it boring and joyless.
@geodude012 What I meant was they taught it without passion, monotonously spitting out the facts. Even animals learn through having fun as infants, so it's no wonder that people with passionless teachers in certain subjects flounder unless they have another source that can show the value of that subject. I never said the subject itself was inherently boring, just the tutors I had.
Math is not a foundation for all disciplines. It is only a tool which will blindly and precisely follow instructions to do calculations coming from those disciplines.
@QuantDesign Partly agree. But in order to work with it well you need to understand its manipulations, some applications, as well as its theoretical concepts (proves). Anyone can plug and chug into a formula. But not everyone can prove its theorems (formulas). Proving its theorems gives you an edge when it comes to applications since you know its boundaries.
Math does not need to be connected to real world applications at all, nor real world applications are necessary for math to exist. Math can exist completely as a separate discipline. How do you know that? In every mathematical proof you will never see a real world concepts or objects, like apples, atoms, mass, kilograms, pears. The proof in math consists only of mathematical concepts. You can not prove a mathematical theorem using apples. That's why math can exist as a separate discipline.
If you have a pure mathematician's job, you will need to WAIT for physicist to tell you what to calculate, for engineer to specify to you boundary and initial conditions for your differential and integral equations, you will need for biologist to tell you with which numbers to start. Mathematician is like a construction company that deals with blueprints provided by architects. The beauty of the building is always credited to an architect, never to a construction company.
Math does not care where the numbers are coming from. Math will blindly follow the instructions for calculations provided by you. Math is like a cashier who does not know what the next item is but yet it will continue to add the numbers. You can measure one's heart beats, and give that number to math, but math wouldn't care whose heart beats are those. Math will see only a number. Also, math need not to be linked to real world: 5 dragons plus 3 dragons give 8 dragons. Math can't tell reality.
@QuantDesign D the point of this video is that the candidate needs to know math (the study of space, patterns, as well as its boundaries) in order to applied it. Math is the prerequesite then comes its applications. How the hell will the practitioner expect to use it without understanding its boundaries. Unless ofcourse they just plug and chug into math theorems without having a solid knowledge.
@lvgcoolman13 "Math is the prerequesite then comes its applications". You can never go from math to its application! It's the other way around. You simply can not learn math then apply it. Because, by very definition, when you write 2 + 3, you have no idea where the counts come from. If you know, then you already went from application to math. You have to know NON MATHEMATICAL rules and, from them, throw numbers at math. Knowing math may be necessary but not sufficient condition to be anything.
@lvgcoolman13 "Math is the prerequesite then comes its applications" - This is misleading and,simply, not true. Take, for example, Newton and calculus. He had a real world physical problem for which math approach did not exist! Then he invented calculus to solve it. The "application" was there first and there was no math theory as prerequisite to learn to solve the problem. Newton couldn't first learn calculus, as prerequisite, then "apply" it to his problem. He invented calculus!
@lvgcoolman13 "Math is the prerequesite then comes its applications". - It's the other way around. It's the "application" that drives the way how you use math. Example, painting. You can study as much as you want canvas, brush, pigment properties, but that won't make you decide what are you going to paint. Another example, grammar and language. You can study as much as you want their properties, but it won't make you decide what are you going to write about nor make you a good writer.
I think this video somewhat exaggerates the opportunities available to someone on completion of a math major. For example, surely you need to study civil engineering in order to build bridges.
I did a PhD in Mathematics, and where I live (in Australia), jobs that might use mathematics and don't require other specialized qualifications are extremely rare. At least, I think if you're going to study math, you should study computer programming or statistics as well!
@AsteroidRabbit Well said. I am studying math and I am taking statistics and programming courses to applied it. The best jobs for math majors would be actuary, quantitative finance or software engineering. Like you said we need to suplement our math background with an application in mind. I am taking SOA exam 1 Probability this November here in the USA.
Excellent video! As I go forward in my career majoring in Computer Engineering and Computer Science, I am realizing that math is so fundamental to everything we do in this world. Really great initiative! Any t-shirts available?
@JoeP3rks well, i know that there is a shirt that has a pi and a square root of a negative 1 talking to each other. pi tells the square root of negative 1 to "get real" and it replies to pi "be rational". it's kinda dumb, but somewhat funny lol
great video. i think this has convinced me enough to major in mathematics. it's so much more than the numbers, math teaches you how to think. we need more of these people in Washington DC. LET'S ELECT A MATHEMATICIAN PRESIDENT IN 2012!!! lol
Math is important, and so is money, accept it or not. And we want to live comfortable with what we are doing, if you understand math you have more posibilities to get a job (and that´s what we are looking for) . =D
Do you know what it takes to promote a better job market for technical professions involving math? Its the teachers, not the students. Anyone can learn mathematics, yet we all learn things differently, so that is when the teacher either makes or breaks the students.
It pisses me off that teacher always point the finger of blame on students and that is the students soul responsibility to learn and succeed. Its not.
@j19527 65/35 teacher/students? uh, no. those who do the most work in a class are the ones who learn the most, so it should be skewed the other way. you are not an empty vessel waiting to have your head filled, you actually have to DO SOMETHING in order to learn.
i actually learned the most in college math when i taught myself because i had a bad professor. that's because i had to do my own problem-solving and figuring it out myself (i.e., google, wikipedia, textbooks, etc).
You sound very stupid. All of that self learning still MUST be augmented by people teach and inspire you. The top Professionals in ANY discipline have had outstanding teachers and mentors.Teaching, is more than just teaching.
Now that my attention has been brought back to this video, I'll go ahead and share one of my favorite BYU Math quotes, "BYU Math has two purposes: to make you fail and to make you miserable like unto themselves; therefore BYU Math is the devil." -Steven Lord. My linear algebra teacher even admitted that he wanted to fail 1/3 of the class and that his purpose as the instructor was to make our lives miserable. BYU Math is a disgrace to the University and is in desperate need of restructuring.
Historically you're absolutely right. In fact, I would go further to say that most math departments have been guilty of that. But BYU's math department is making sweeping changes. This video is just one of several things in the pipeline to attract and retain interest in mathematics, and to address the national call to increase and enhance the workforce in science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM).
The fact that BYU Math put out a video like this is an absolute shame. Being well versed in the works of BYU Math, I can testify that they do not help anyone to do anything useful or worthwhile in their lives. I'm not saying that math in general is not useful. As an engineer, I know the power that math has. However, BYU Math teaches in a way that causes many students to fail and most students to learn little if anything about math. The math department is a shame to BYU and to math in general.
@BlacksAreBeautiful Boooo to you my friend... First of all, BYU Math must have stolen your ability to spell, because it's *your. Secondly, BYU Math made a significant dent in my undergraduate GPA that is going to stick with me for the rest of my professional and academic life like a big, red mark on my forehead. If they want to refund the grade points that they royally screwed me out of, I'll gladly move on. Until then, I plan on disparaging them as much as possible.
@specificenergy Its all about the teachers. Thats he problem with America today. The laissez-faire routine (hands off) approach to teaching. Teacher become convinced that a student(s) just can not learn math or any other sublect, AT LEAST FOR THE TIME THEY TAKE THEIR COURSE. So they mentality turns to not helping the weak minded, respectfully. Teachers fail to see the potential they can give students. Potentail does not lie within, it is given to you, through discovery.
You are so right. Greatness comes from inspiration. Corny, but true. Teachers do not have the resources or freedom to inspire. 1. Parents 2. Teachers 3. Students, in that order. Show me a country, community, school or home that understands this. And I will show you a successful child.
The only thing that's beautiful about math is when I won't have to take it anymore, it has brought me nothing but trouble.
pb19111 1 week ago
"it's a language, just like, you know, being good at English and grammar. and, the better you are at it, the further you can go with it"
MrTurabq 1 week ago
I want to teach math in high school. How hard is Math in college?
MrMraggies1996 2 weeks ago
@MrMraggies1996 I am a third year Mechanical Engineer major am minoring in math, and i can say that it is not as hard as you might think it is. With good professors, which I am blessed to have had, it is all step by step and easy to follow.
davidram1 1 week ago
@davidram1 I love Math, and i want to be a Math Professor. So majoring in Math is not as hard as i think, if i enjoy it then i will do good in it?
MrMraggies1996 1 week ago
@MrMraggies1996 Depending on how good your professors are, you may or may not have to work harder than you thought to do well. But it comes down to, do you enjoy it enough to work hard at it to pass you class with an A? Also, even though being a math professor is a very rewarding job, you can not be guaranteed a position because it is competitive field, so pair you math degree with another science minor or major in a field you enjoy to make it easier to get a jobwhenyougraduate.
davidram1 1 week ago
@davidram1 im gonna..
major in math, and minor in Seconday Education, so ican be a HS Math Teacher.
MrMraggies1996 1 week ago
@MrMraggies1996 sounds like a plan. Good luck
davidram1 6 days ago
@MrMraggies1996 no its not as hard as it may appear
davidram1 1 week ago
I cant believe there are people who say we dont need math...well....good luck trying to find a good job without a math background
MathematicianLegacy 1 month ago
Ever since I saw this video on youtube, I watch this EVERY SINGLE morning while brushing my teeth because this gives me so much hope for my future in Mathematics and Computer Science, thank you guys for this very inspirational video it really gives me hope in the biggest way. you really have no idea, THANK YOU!
mxcnrawker 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
i dont mind math but im just not good at it im also very slow at math but i dont like to solve sodokue i think thats how u spell it puzzels. But im slow at it so that might be a problem for me as for getting a job. what im interested in it computers idk what i want to be in the computer world but im very interested in computers and how they work. But i heard that most people who are smart have jobs in that field so idk but i know im interested in that type of job. Im 17 and a jr in high school.
sawaugust 1 month ago
@sawaugust There is nothing wrong with being slow, as long as you are accurate. I mean maybe it can be hard to finish a test in time but that is why you practice, so you know right away what the next step is given a scenario.
davidram1 1 week ago
wheres the next video?
Dman40000 5 months ago
Can I learn to write a computer program that will do all my math for me?
Chuck1863 8 months ago
saying "We Use Math" is like if painters say "We Use Paint and Canvas" or writers say "We Use Grammar" or sculptors say "We Use Clay".....You can know all properties of clay, yet what you make of it can be crap and not sculpture. You can know all properties of grammar and language and yet what you write can be crap and not a novel. Math is a nice, elegant tool, but how it is taught in school is misleading and 90% wrong, at least in my view.
QuantDesign 8 months ago 3
@QuantDesign and this is why only years after leaving school do I find myself interested in Math, they really do a good job of making it the most boring joyless subject, at least everywhere I had classes.Such a shame
youwinoneinternets 8 months ago
@youwinoneinternets I wanted to learn to walk when I was two, but falling down made it so joyless and boring. Same with learning to ride a bike. All that practice. And don't get me started on memorizing the alphabet. There is nothing interesting you can do in math without going through the boring parts first. The teachers didn't make it boring and joyless, that was your bad lifestyle choice. The people in the video didn't find it boring and joyless.
geodude012 7 months ago
@geodude012 What I meant was they taught it without passion, monotonously spitting out the facts. Even animals learn through having fun as infants, so it's no wonder that people with passionless teachers in certain subjects flounder unless they have another source that can show the value of that subject. I never said the subject itself was inherently boring, just the tutors I had.
youwinoneinternets 7 months ago
@QuantDesign I completely agree with you Sir/Ma'am
sgtcojonez 6 months ago
Math is not a foundation for all disciplines. It is only a tool which will blindly and precisely follow instructions to do calculations coming from those disciplines.
QuantDesign 9 months ago
@QuantDesign Partly agree. But in order to work with it well you need to understand its manipulations, some applications, as well as its theoretical concepts (proves). Anyone can plug and chug into a formula. But not everyone can prove its theorems (formulas). Proving its theorems gives you an edge when it comes to applications since you know its boundaries.
lvgcoolman13 8 months ago
Math does not need to be connected to real world applications at all, nor real world applications are necessary for math to exist. Math can exist completely as a separate discipline. How do you know that? In every mathematical proof you will never see a real world concepts or objects, like apples, atoms, mass, kilograms, pears. The proof in math consists only of mathematical concepts. You can not prove a mathematical theorem using apples. That's why math can exist as a separate discipline.
QuantDesign 9 months ago
If you have a pure mathematician's job, you will need to WAIT for physicist to tell you what to calculate, for engineer to specify to you boundary and initial conditions for your differential and integral equations, you will need for biologist to tell you with which numbers to start. Mathematician is like a construction company that deals with blueprints provided by architects. The beauty of the building is always credited to an architect, never to a construction company.
QuantDesign 9 months ago
Math does not care where the numbers are coming from. Math will blindly follow the instructions for calculations provided by you. Math is like a cashier who does not know what the next item is but yet it will continue to add the numbers. You can measure one's heart beats, and give that number to math, but math wouldn't care whose heart beats are those. Math will see only a number. Also, math need not to be linked to real world: 5 dragons plus 3 dragons give 8 dragons. Math can't tell reality.
QuantDesign 9 months ago
@QuantDesign D the point of this video is that the candidate needs to know math (the study of space, patterns, as well as its boundaries) in order to applied it. Math is the prerequesite then comes its applications. How the hell will the practitioner expect to use it without understanding its boundaries. Unless ofcourse they just plug and chug into math theorems without having a solid knowledge.
lvgcoolman13 8 months ago
@lvgcoolman13 "Math is the prerequesite then comes its applications". You can never go from math to its application! It's the other way around. You simply can not learn math then apply it. Because, by very definition, when you write 2 + 3, you have no idea where the counts come from. If you know, then you already went from application to math. You have to know NON MATHEMATICAL rules and, from them, throw numbers at math. Knowing math may be necessary but not sufficient condition to be anything.
QuantDesign 8 months ago
@lvgcoolman13 But, I do agree that knowing math boundaries is the main motivation to do mathematical proofs.
QuantDesign 8 months ago
@lvgcoolman13 "Math is the prerequesite then comes its applications" - This is misleading and,simply, not true. Take, for example, Newton and calculus. He had a real world physical problem for which math approach did not exist! Then he invented calculus to solve it. The "application" was there first and there was no math theory as prerequisite to learn to solve the problem. Newton couldn't first learn calculus, as prerequisite, then "apply" it to his problem. He invented calculus!
QuantDesign 8 months ago
@lvgcoolman13 "Math is the prerequesite then comes its applications". - It's the other way around. It's the "application" that drives the way how you use math. Example, painting. You can study as much as you want canvas, brush, pigment properties, but that won't make you decide what are you going to paint. Another example, grammar and language. You can study as much as you want their properties, but it won't make you decide what are you going to write about nor make you a good writer.
QuantDesign 8 months ago
I think this video somewhat exaggerates the opportunities available to someone on completion of a math major. For example, surely you need to study civil engineering in order to build bridges.
I did a PhD in Mathematics, and where I live (in Australia), jobs that might use mathematics and don't require other specialized qualifications are extremely rare. At least, I think if you're going to study math, you should study computer programming or statistics as well!
AsteroidRabbit 9 months ago
@AsteroidRabbit Well said. I am studying math and I am taking statistics and programming courses to applied it. The best jobs for math majors would be actuary, quantitative finance or software engineering. Like you said we need to suplement our math background with an application in mind. I am taking SOA exam 1 Probability this November here in the USA.
lvgcoolman13 8 months ago
Wait. What do Fibonacci numbers have to do with wasps?
wwkong92 9 months ago
@wwkong92 Fibonacci numbers have been used in early population models.
jhumpher 9 months ago
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@wwkong92 Fibonacci numbers have been used in early population models.
jhumpher 9 months ago
im studying math and when i have my masters degree ill begin to study videogamedesign.there will be awsome games in the future :P
asnierkishcowboy 9 months ago 2
Excellent video! As I go forward in my career majoring in Computer Engineering and Computer Science, I am realizing that math is so fundamental to everything we do in this world. Really great initiative! Any t-shirts available?
JoeP3rks 9 months ago
@JoeP3rks well, i know that there is a shirt that has a pi and a square root of a negative 1 talking to each other. pi tells the square root of negative 1 to "get real" and it replies to pi "be rational". it's kinda dumb, but somewhat funny lol
physicskid1 9 months ago
New favorite word: "sticktoitiveness" 4:49
MTGandP 9 months ago
This makes me proud to study Maths in higher education. Go Mathematicians!
nullflow777 9 months ago
You know...
skoocda 9 months ago
great video. i think this has convinced me enough to major in mathematics. it's so much more than the numbers, math teaches you how to think. we need more of these people in Washington DC. LET'S ELECT A MATHEMATICIAN PRESIDENT IN 2012!!! lol
physicskid1 10 months ago 27
@physicskid1 Angela Merkel has a PhD in physics
runeaam 9 months ago
@physicskid1 Singapore's prime minister studied computer science and mathematics... that's baws.
denebgarza 9 months ago
What is the title of the background music?
OfficialWhyRock722 1 year ago
@OfficialWhyRock722 There is no title of this background music. The filming company created it for this video. Thanks for asking though!
WeUseMath 9 months ago
Math is important, and so is money, accept it or not. And we want to live comfortable with what we are doing, if you understand math you have more posibilities to get a job (and that´s what we are looking for) . =D
CristinaXNofx 1 year ago 8
"when you know mathematics you can do anything you want"
i haven't heard anything more geeky / stupid than this statement.
empty propaganda....
voister81 1 year ago
@voister81 jealous?
gigijbijbj 2 months ago
Do you know what it takes to promote a better job market for technical professions involving math? Its the teachers, not the students. Anyone can learn mathematics, yet we all learn things differently, so that is when the teacher either makes or breaks the students.
It pisses me off that teacher always point the finger of blame on students and that is the students soul responsibility to learn and succeed. Its not.
Mor like 65/35 Teacher/Students.
j19527 1 year ago
@j19527 65/35 teacher/students? uh, no. those who do the most work in a class are the ones who learn the most, so it should be skewed the other way. you are not an empty vessel waiting to have your head filled, you actually have to DO SOMETHING in order to learn.
i actually learned the most in college math when i taught myself because i had a bad professor. that's because i had to do my own problem-solving and figuring it out myself (i.e., google, wikipedia, textbooks, etc).
katie225 1 year ago
@katie225
You sound very stupid. All of that self learning still MUST be augmented by people teach and inspire you. The top Professionals in ANY discipline have had outstanding teachers and mentors.Teaching, is more than just teaching.
drbayoms 10 months ago
You know what pisses me off they tell you the eye candy that "you can make so much money with math" "Working on a time clock is NOT fun"
This is some false grandoise advertising.
j19527 1 year ago 2
Now that my attention has been brought back to this video, I'll go ahead and share one of my favorite BYU Math quotes, "BYU Math has two purposes: to make you fail and to make you miserable like unto themselves; therefore BYU Math is the devil." -Steven Lord. My linear algebra teacher even admitted that he wanted to fail 1/3 of the class and that his purpose as the instructor was to make our lives miserable. BYU Math is a disgrace to the University and is in desperate need of restructuring.
specificenergy 1 year ago
@specificenergy That is awful. Makes me think about professors/instructors in general.
lun321 1 year ago
in the first minute (0:00-1:00)
we are shown natural pictures and equations.
does anyone know the significance of these pictures/euqations??
what exactly are we being shown?
the only one i understood immediately was the phsyics equation with the snowboarder......
lolopoop4 1 year ago
Great video
ddmillet 1 year ago
Historically you're absolutely right. In fact, I would go further to say that most math departments have been guilty of that. But BYU's math department is making sweeping changes. This video is just one of several things in the pipeline to attract and retain interest in mathematics, and to address the national call to increase and enhance the workforce in science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM).
jhumpher 1 year ago
I don't know why, but the sound comes through intermittently.
jereldc 1 year ago
@jereldc because your computer is incapable of handling the math.
originalrhombus 1 year ago
Great video! There's so much more opportunity in math than most people realize. Hopefully this motivates more people to study it.
nebman6 1 year ago
@nebman6 really? can you give examples? or you stay with "if u know math u can do everything"
too many retarded people study math and they think that hard work makes you smart or useful.
that would be you
voister81 1 year ago
The fact that BYU Math put out a video like this is an absolute shame. Being well versed in the works of BYU Math, I can testify that they do not help anyone to do anything useful or worthwhile in their lives. I'm not saying that math in general is not useful. As an engineer, I know the power that math has. However, BYU Math teaches in a way that causes many students to fail and most students to learn little if anything about math. The math department is a shame to BYU and to math in general.
specificenergy 1 year ago
@specificenergy boooo....stop you're whining and move on with your life!!!
BlacksAreBeautiful 1 year ago
@BlacksAreBeautiful Boooo to you my friend... First of all, BYU Math must have stolen your ability to spell, because it's *your. Secondly, BYU Math made a significant dent in my undergraduate GPA that is going to stick with me for the rest of my professional and academic life like a big, red mark on my forehead. If they want to refund the grade points that they royally screwed me out of, I'll gladly move on. Until then, I plan on disparaging them as much as possible.
specificenergy 1 year ago
@specificenergy Yawn! have at it and good luck with YOUR disparaging campaign!
BlacksAreBeautiful 1 year ago
@BlacksAreBeautiful I will take that luck! And thank you for the correct spelling. :)
specificenergy 1 year ago
@specificenergy Its all about the teachers. Thats he problem with America today. The laissez-faire routine (hands off) approach to teaching. Teacher become convinced that a student(s) just can not learn math or any other sublect, AT LEAST FOR THE TIME THEY TAKE THEIR COURSE. So they mentality turns to not helping the weak minded, respectfully. Teachers fail to see the potential they can give students. Potentail does not lie within, it is given to you, through discovery.
j19527 1 year ago
@j19527
You are so right. Greatness comes from inspiration. Corny, but true. Teachers do not have the resources or freedom to inspire. 1. Parents 2. Teachers 3. Students, in that order. Show me a country, community, school or home that understands this. And I will show you a successful child.
drbayoms 10 months ago
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specificenergy 1 year ago
I wish I had seen this back when I was choosing my major.
GeorgeAndAnnPrior 1 year ago