Deltic At Full Speed Through Northallerton

[irelandbloke]

Wonderful

[MRT4472]

thanks; i have allways thought the difference you discribe was between mk2 and mk2a ....

sure this was written in the hornby catalogue that said a mk2d was a mk2a (the x airfix coaches) i am now going to look for my old catalogues in the loft to see if i am loosing the plot or not

many thanks

dave

[brchtr002]

@MRT4472 right, how about, before you spend a whole afternoon ruffling through old magazines, consulting wikipedia first :)

[MRT4472]

ok so anybody who knows anything about coaches can tell the differance between a mk1 mk2 and mk3

so excuse my ignorance but is there any noticable differance between a mk2a and a mk2d

please enlighten me if you could be so kind as i am curious

[brchtr002]

@MRT4472 happily: a Mk2A - like a Mk1 - comes with windows which can be opened and are slightly bigger, Mk2Ds are a bit like Mk3s, they are air conditioned and the windows are a bit smaller and can not be opened! Google them both to have an idea.

[MRT4472]

THE FIRST COACH IS A MK2 COMP/BRAKE

THE REST ARE MK2A;S

JUST TO CLARIFY

[brchtr002]

@MRT4472 All the remaining coaches are Mk2d's. Please read the description or any previous comments for reference. Thank you

[MAPFWH]

I was hauled by RSG in July from Doncaster to Devon... before the small fire, we were hitting 99.7 mph, and once the Duff went on the front, speed dropped due to missing our slot. On the return, double headed, we hit 99.8, and crested Lickey at around 30 mph with a good heavy rake on the rear. So no, there is no maximum permitted speed like 80, it would slow other traffic, and we would have made no progress.

[class37100]

i love that noise of the deltic and the noise of the mk2 carriages magic

[vorlonb3]

nice video, showing 22 doing what she does best

[MrFlavioValentino]

Those were Mark 2's not 3's my friend.

[brchtr002]

@MrFlavioValentino thank you for letting us all know, I somehow have reasons to believe that that's fairly obvious!

[MrFlavioValentino]

@brchtr002 this is how you find out the difference between Mark2's and Mark3's. Mark 2's are a bit more noisier then the Mark3's and the Mark 3's carriages have sort of like a box covering out materials next to the bogies. you get it? Now double check the video :D

[brchtr002]

@MrFlavioValentino mate, seriously, when have I EVER said that those carriages are Mk3 carriages, or WHAT makes you think after all these years of being a rail enthusiast that I need you to tell me the SODDING DIFFERENCE!?? And just in case you start explaining it all again: I (we all do, I suppose) KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A Mk2 AND A Mk3. Is that clear? Good!

[MrFlavioValentino]

@brchtr002 ya ya, dude just chillax.

[brchtr002]

@MrFlavioValentino mate, no, just no.

[MrFlavioValentino]

@brchtr002  lol ok.

[N330AA]

@brchtr002 Ohh noes, someone on the internet undermined my ability to identify subtle differences between British Rail rolling stock.

[brchtr002]

@N330AA Did they? Poor you, why don't you send an angry reply back like I did! It usually does the trick.

[1madaboutguitar]

Full speed?

[brchtr002]

@1madaboutguitar I supposed so at the time, but no one seems to be very sure about it. So I'll leave it as it is until a plausible answer pops up!

[1madaboutguitar]

@brchtr002 I think the comment below stating it was doing about 80mph was a plausible answer. if you look at this vid, the Deltic is going MUCH faster then on your vid

watch?v=7XzMyHG3PSo&feature=re­lated

Anyway, great vid. ;-)

[3rdCARABINIER]

Does it matter how fast it's going, it's a fab video and an awesome piece of machinery.

[mallard4998]

silly re-do?????

[beeble2003]

Actually, it's only doing about 80mph. (From 0:26 to 0:33, 11 Mk3 coaches, which is 253metres of train, passes in 7 seconds.) Or is that as fast as they're allowed to go in preservation?

[brchtr002]

@beeble2003 I've heard of preserved Spoons doing 100 mph so that won't be the answer, but I just assumed it went as fast at it could seen as there weren't any slow trains ahead of it, nor was it sent down the Down Slow

[COVENTRYBRIAN]

@beeble2003 Full speed of a Deltic, even in pservation, is 100 mph

[rachaelmatt]

@beeble2003 Good point, but those are mk2's.

[beeble2003]

@rachaelmatt In that case, it's only doing 70mph. (Mk2s aren't as long as Mk3s.)

[metadyneman]

@beeble2003 Look again.. the coaches are mostly Mk2d/e/f and are somewhat shorter in length than a Mk3. However

[thebismarkandthehood]

@beeble2003 true. the deltics really did have trouble doing that ton. so that probaly was doing about 80.good working by the way

[37201xoim]

@thebismarkandthehood Sorry? I take it you don't mean generally? Both in BR service and in preservation 100mph cruising was what they were designed for and would be reached pretty much effortlessly with any normal load where the line profile would allow it, unless of course the loco were running on only one engine or otherwise faulty. I won't talk here about just how often they exceed(ed) the ton. 55022 is more than happy to run at 100mph with load 13 plus a dead spoon!

[itfcsam]

Excellent video!

[bluebus270]

You used to get a nice drone from Wakefield Westgate right up to beyond Lofthouse. I first heard 55013 on this stretch in the 1970's and it was mesmerising.

[brchtr002]

@bluebus270 cheers, and agreed!

[pjdscott]

Agreed - the footage gives a real sense of power, speed and sound! Top marks and thumbs up...

[brchtr002]

@pjdscott ta!

[jfrankland1991]

great vid, fantastic loco. I was on the train, window behind the white and black intercity coach! pity i couldn't get further forward becuase of first class!

[wattass7]

fantastic vid, you could here her well before it turned up, wow the power of the deltic is there for all to see and hear, awsome, thanks

[brchtr002]

@wattass7 pleasure, and yes, you could hear her from miles away