Oh, the Star Wars-sneak-on-the-Death-Star-feigning-a-prisoner approach with a changeling twist. Too bad Kyra is not a wookie, eh boys, lol? I would imagine that would be interesting to say the least.
The Borg wouldn't assimilate the Jem Hadar since the Borg are all about efficiency. The Jem Hadar and their dependence and their genetic addiction the liquid crack ( Ketracel White) would be deemed inefficient by the Collective.
Actually they would if they find the tech promising. You forget that the borg are still dependent on their organic side. What the tech inside them does, is provide nutrition for the cells, removes waste byproducts and repairs damage. Nanoprobes do that and other tech inside their bodies. And it's all regulated by the central node located in the center of the brain. Remember how Seven needed a new node and from a dead drone it was not good. Since tech cant be replicated. So borg can crush them
Has any noticed that one sequence from the wipe out of resistance is also seen in the conquering of the Chintooka system when they got the weapon platforms to blast their own power supply?
lol borg vs dominan lol results the borg easily overwhelm the dominian via assimilation as they would also do the same to the other races including the federation.
true but imagine the the borg making drones out of the dominian lol who knows what would happen if the Dominian became adapted by the borg plus their technology would also be adapted for borg use in other words imaigne borg assimilated dominan attack ships and super battleships.
Jem'Hadar drones won't be able to live more than 3 days since they are genetically dependent on the Tetracel White which only the Founders can provide.
the Vorta would activate their termination implans and not be assimilated.
and the Founders also can't be assimialted because they can become inorganic and be immune to nano probes.
also the Dominion are experts in making biogenic weapons, they'd be able to poison the Borg.
The Jem'Hadar would all be killed, until the Borg learn how to make Ketracel white themselves; only 1 sample would be needed to figure out what it is made of and the technology is easy to assimilate.
The Vorta can only activate the implants if they get the chance, while the Borg transport right next to you and take you off-guard.
Icheb's people are genetic engineering masters that designed him as a living-anti-borg Bio-weapon, guess what devestated species was reduced to nearly pre-Warp.
Really? Calling Avatar "the worst movie ever" sounds like a severe case of inferiority complex. It proves quite a lot. It's one thing saying he doesn't like the film, but the worst movie ever...?
You can't prove otherwise because you know that's what he said.
Borg Nanoprobes could prob re-code Jem Hadar DNA to not need white. Im sure they have assimilated other species with addictions of genetic issues. Then again TNG borg are the ones to fear, not the pussy borg that were created in Voyager
Borg will find a way to assimilate founders. They can create a techno virus and then its all over. Queen asked Seven how to assimilate a world at once. She said a virus could do that. So the founders can change to gas, or whatever they change so that nanoprobes would fall off. still they will be assimilated.
Yes they were not able to assimilate bio organic ships nor the physiology of Species 8472 without outside help. Also, do the founders even have a physiology to assimilate? They can assume any shape from a solid to liquid to gas
Watch the Best of Both Worlds part 2 and see how the Federation ships on Mars don't even get close to the Borg cube before they are destroyed. The Jem Hadar could try to ram the Borg, but their little ships wouldn't even get close to the cube.
@TheGreatLink The borg would adapt to assimilate the jemhadar and would create the tetracel white the same way the borg dont eat and probably change them so they dont need it as they become borg. Again the borg would change them before vorta had a chance to activate anything He too would be assimilated. The borg cubes are huge and many of them only thing saving them would be that race 1356 ? the one janeway help the borg to assimilate.
@TheGreatLink Most people need food. Borg don't eat, so the Jem'Hadar won't need the white. The Vorta's implants wouldn't work. The borg would force the founders into a solid state so they can be assimialted. Their bio-weapons would work once. Also it would take 100's of ships (that ram into the borg) to come close to destroying the Borg. So the Borg would crush the Dominion with minamal losses.
@TheGreatLink The borg take the need for sustenance out of anything they can assimilate. Food, water etc and then they make it that you only need to regenerate. In voyager it was revealed they could take a drone that was dead for 18 hours and revive it (Seven used the technique for Neelix). A vorta could be revived.
You know that the Borg would easily defeat the Dominion. The Borg wiped out entire fleets with only one ship. The Dominion sent tens of thousands of ships into the alpha quadrant and even with the added might of the Cardassians and the Breen couldn't come close to Earth.
The Dominion also lost 1250 ships thanks to the Prophets in the wormhole. Also, they were fighting in an area not their own. Similar to WW2 with Germany in Russia. Despite Germany having the superior fighting force, they were too far from their home reserves to fight as effective as they are known to. Hence the major push for DS9 on both sides, whomever controlled the wormhole controlled the quadrant
Not every species can be assimilated, see species 8472. I wonder if the nanobots would work at all since the founders are no solids and have no solid structure, hence the nanobots may swim around like in water and could be easily excreted.
You could say the same about the virus that the Federation used to poison the founders. Remember, these nano probes are microscopic and work at the molecular level, even liquids have a structure.
@FLAME4564 They would not want to assimilate the jem hadar due to them being drug addicts or the vorta since there clones..... Founders maybe but the borg most likely have not made contact with the dominan.
Orci's multiverse Explaining that "Star Trek XI" takes place in an altered timeline, Bob Orci reasons that this would not be a first time in Star Trek. Also, as multiple universes (more precisely the many-worlds interpretation) are a seriously considered concept of quantum mechanics, it would be scientifically correct as well."
There you are, the movie does NOT affect the timeline!
The Vorta would have recognized him, and I think the Jem Hadar would have also. Plus, the guard would have looked at him up close when they entered the bridge.
if the federation beat the borg single handedly ,all be it after heavy losses, then the dominion ,that matches a combined federation klingon romulan alliance, would manage to handle the borg
No, that means nothing. The Borg sent ONE ship and destroyed over 200 ships in First Contact. The Dominion couldn't beat the federation even with thousands of ships AND the Breen, AND the Cardassians.
yes but the dominion ould think nothing of using a million jem hadar to pilot ships head on in2 the borg squares, or even whole populations of there vassal planets,also 1 changeling could easily get on a borg ship and cause all kinds of damage
The Borg would adapt after a few minutes. First of all, they are borg cubes, nor borg squares. The Borg have millions of ships, the Dominion does not. The Changling could be assimilated by the borg, or contained by force fields. The Dominion's weapons would not damage the Borg ships.
Again, you talk but back it up with NOTHING. Do you even watch the show? The Borg destroyed hundreds of ships with one little cube, and in Voyager you see that they have thousands.
The Jemhadar can be assimilated because the Borg implants would provide everything they needed. The Borg don't eat, so the implants are everything. The JemHadar are missing an enzyme, but the Borg could easily make it. Their technology is far superior to either the Federation or the Dominion.
The Borg have only sent one cube at a time because there is no way the script writers could have made a believable story about the Federation beating the Borg with that many ships. There is just no way. The Borg were the most powerful enemy in the Star Trek Universe until we see 8702. The Dominion barely was able to destroy little Klingon birds of prey, and lost to the Federation. The Borg would have crushed the Dominion the way you would step on an ant.
rubbish there is no way theyy could adapt to a star ship colliding with a cube/square/sphere/orsumsuch at warp 9.further more the dominion have conquered a whole quadrant with millions of planets of resources to call on and jem hadar can be reproduced with out limit not to mention the trillions of subject peoples to use as they see fit.CHANGELINGS ARE NOT SOLID AND THERFORE CANT BE ASSIMILATED.jem hadar could also be bred to explode on assimilation or deliver a virus like hue did
Yes they would, besides, the Jem Hadar would n't even get close. Did you see how the Borg flew through the orbital defenses on Mars. The Jem Hadar wouldn't even destroy one cube. The only ones more powerful than the Borg are the Q and species 8472
lol but ur forgetting that if the borg owned the dominan they would also turn their sights and go after the klingons,romulans b4 persuing the federation.
Why the Dominion would win against the Borg: The Dominion, or at least the bulk of them, cannot be assimilated! We know the nanoprobes attack ONLY(!) blood cells. Founders don't have blood. The Jem'Hadar are addicted to ketracel-white, not even the Federation was able to replicate it - neither would the Borg. The Vorta have a hyper immune system that destroys all foreign objects from their system, such as powerful poisons and nanos! Long live the Dominion!
Dominion would probably outnumber the Borg when it comes to ship numbers. They may be small, but they pack a punch! Just ram one of those babies into a cube laced with explosives and BOOM, Borg down, and re-clone the crew. However, the Dominion are smart enough not to result to violence, they could use that "I, Borg" unsolvable geometric problem and commit mass-genocide. Long live the Dominion.
"they could use that "I, Borg" unsolvable geometric problem and commit mass-genocide. Long live the Dominion. " Or just install windows XP on the borg computers. Once the hive mind assimilates minesweeper and solitare the borg will be weakened, furthermore, to my knowlege the borg do not use keyboards, so in the event of a system crash, there is no cntrl alt del!
The Borg have millions of ships, didn't you see their unimatrix? It was huge, spanning hundreds of systems. The Jem Hadar fighters would be no match for the Borg.
Duh, they only sent one because the shows wouldn't have lasted long if the Federation had been assimilated. The Borg were hundreds of thousands of years ahead of the Federation, according to Q. They had all kinds of ships that could cross the galaxy in a very short time.
The Borg would adapt to the Jem Hadar ships and would stop them with tractor beams. Besides, the Jem Hadar fighters are tiny compared to the Cubes. Did you see the Borg cube that passed Mars. It destroyed the approaching defense ships with one shot. It would destroy the Jem Hadar and the Jem Hadar would not even get close enough to ram the Borg.
no they wouldn't, the Dominion would be outnumbered and outgunned. The Borg would adapt to the Dominions weapons and it would be all over. Even the Cardassians stopped Odo from changing shapes. Plus,. the I Borg virus was never tested or proven to have worked. It was all a theory.
Nope. If you watch the DS9 series, the Dominion had more weapons than the Borg and completely different tactics from any other race. It takes HOURS for the Federation to defeat one Borg cube because they don't like RISK. Dominion THRIVES on risk. They don't care about killing off a few ships and entire crew to win a war because they can just make more. Five seconds, that's all they need.
That's the sillies thing I have ever heard. Don't like risk? Two hundred ships were destroyed in First Contact, who is that not risk? They risked their lives to destroy the Borg Cube.
if it takes just 200 ships to destroy a cube, and the dominion has over 100,000 ships, they'd be able to destroy at least 500 cubes, which is a lot more than what the Borg can afford to send at them
Now that's just lame. Do you even think before you write this stuff. The Borg destroyed 200 ships and were still in one piece. They only were destroyed by Picard and some questionable script writing. Besides, even if what you said is true, the Borg would adapt and would not lose many ships, plus, they have millions, so they could lose a few. You just make this stuff up because you don't know much about trek.
Excuse me, please. Allow me to rephrase that: They are too...cautious! They didn't take the direct approach, instead then the Borg make a move first and was taken by surprise, as a result they got the upperhand. One thing for the Dominion, they are direct, even if they're slimy and extremely treacherous about it. They have a habit playing it discreet then biting you in the end, placing the blame on someone else.
@TheGreatLink Actually, the Dominion proved to be pathetic. They made almost no technological advancements during the war, while the Federation adapted to both the phased poloran beams and the Breen Energy weapons. The Dominion could NOT find a cure to the virus the Federation used to poison the founders, and the Dominion was UNABLE to do anything to get the wormhole open. At the end of the war the Jem Hadar ships still are destroyed by a few shots from the Defiant.
@TheGreatLink - "it's a fact that the Federation defeated the Borg every single time." Hello. Thanks for these videos. They are awesome. Those victories were the result of 1) clever thinking by the Enterprise crew after they captured Locutus. 2) Insider knowledge of the Borg by Picard (formerly Locutus), which allowed him to "hear" about the overload targeted by the Federation fleet in "First Contact" 3) Data's uniqueness drawing the Borg Queen's attention, allowing Data's betrayal.Comment?
@TheGreatLink "The Federation couldnt defeat the Dominion." ??? Did you even watch the series. The Dominion was manhandled in the end. Their fleet was surrounded, their leaders, the founders, posioned and dying, and their allies the Cardassians abandoned them.
The Dominion made no technological breakthroughs during the war. They couldnt find a cure to the disease that was killing the founders. They couldnt open the wormhole, and they couldnt take Earth. Even the Breen didnt help them.
@Jessico76 You also forget that the Dominion sucked at playing politics. They turned the Cardassians against them and were unable to stop the Romulans from joining with the Federation. They also were never successful at dividing the Klingons and the Federation. The Dominion really was worthless. The founder who controlled the Dominion was incompotent, and Weyoun was arrogant and condescending.
Please watch Best of Both Worlds again. How can you say that the Federation is better than the Borg when their weapons don't even scratch a cube??? You are just doing this to be annoying!
Cardassians developed a weapon for Odo, but that's only for room. Odo wouldn't PHYSICAL hurt Garak; a real Founder could care less to kill him with bare hands. "I, Borg" virus is a theory; Data's theories have a lucky habit of always working!
The Borg are hundreds of thousands of years ahead of the Cardassians. The founders would not be able to do anything to the Borg, because the Borg would stop them from shapeshifting and adapt to their transporters.
The Borg adapted very quickly, repaired their ship fully while at warp speed, and adapted the weapons of the enterprise. The photon torpedoes did NOTHING to the cube, not even scratch it. Watch the episode more closely to see Picard begging Q to get them out of there.
The Borg have always adapted after a few shot. They would have adapted. Plus, the cube can operate if most of it is inoperable. In Best of Both Worlds part 1 they say a cube can operate even in 78% of it is inoperable.
Now you are being ridiculous. The Borg can adapt to anything, including biogenic weapons. They can take out the shields of a ship in seconds, and adapt to phaser hits after one or two shots.
Why do you insist? The Dominion would be extremely lucky to destroy one cube, but they couldn't defeat the borg. They would be crushed.
No, the enterprise's weapons were never a match for the Borg. Did you watch The Best of Both Worlds part 1 when the Borg adapted to the weapons before the entreprise fired. The Enterprise was never a threat to the Borg, and neither is the Dominion.
Watch the Best of Both Worlds 2, and you will see that the fleet not only could NOT defeat the Borg, but they couldn't even retreat, they were all destroyed.
the fleet at Wolf 359 was defeated only because the Borg assimilated Picard who knew all about the battle plans, allowing the Borg to adapt before the battle even started.
if not for Picard's knowledge the cube would have been destroyed by the Enterprise's deflector dish
You mean to say MIGHT have. What Picard and the others had was a THEORY, one that was never tested. You haven't proven anything. Besides, look at how easily the Defiant destroyed Jem Hadar vessels. The Dominion didn't have the technology to compete with the Borg!
Superior technology is nothing compared to superior tactics and intellect of the Dominion. The Dominion is quick and thorough. They can destory a Borg cube in seconds using kamaza tactics. The unimatrix would fall as well. They would sneak attack and kill the queen. You kill the queen, the Borg fall. You kill a Founder and they seek utter vengence to the last Jem'Hadar. You can always breed more.
The intellect of the Dominion??? You are joking, right? They didn't figure out how to get their ships around the prophets, they didn't figure out how to cure the illness infecting the founders, they didn't anticipate Damar's rebellion, and they couldn't stop Sisko from arming the minefield. Face it, they got beat. As for the Borg, they think nothing of sacrificing their drones, and they have millions of them. The Dominion wouldnt be able to destroy a single cube let along thousands of them.
The Prophets had to be blackmailed to even do anything. One thing about the Borg is that they're predictable. One ship, straight line, threat, assimilate, next world. The Dominion were unpredictable and resorted to very dirty tactics and politics which curled the toes of the Romulans. Damar's rebellion was crushed from hundreds of members in technically THREE in the end. If the Dominion had more time, I think they would have gotten the cure for the Founders. Drones are nothing to Jem'Hadar.
LOL, the Romulans were pathetic. Even Q said so when the Enterprise met the Borg. He mentioned that the Borg were much more powerful than the "pitiful" Klingons, and Romulans.
Their tactic would not have had any effect on the Borg, who would adapt easily to anything the Dominion did. Face the facts, the Borg were smarter, more powerful, and had greater numbers. The Dominion was the Federation with a little more power.
it would be impossible for the Borg to assimilate a Founder.
even if their nanoprobes would work on a changeling (which is highly unlikely) the changelings are simply too fast for Borg Drones who are very slow moving because they're just zombie robots
according too Bridge Commander....The Dominion Lose Against the borg during a Quick battle....took 1 minute for a borg tactical cube to pwn a Dominion Battle Dread lol
Those are unoffical fan made addons, and thus are completely without merit. The official Bridge Commander game has neither Borg or Dominion ships featuring.
Voyager was a small ships with no supplies and they destroyed dozens of Borg cubes during the series.
so if your arguement is based on the voyager series which showed you thousands of Borg cubes, you need to remember those cubes were incredibly weak compared to the ones in the other series.
you can't hav eit both ways. either the Borg have only a few very powerful cubes, or they have thousands of weak ones.
because if they have both they would have easily assimilated Earth a long time ago
Voyager did NOT destroy dozens of Borg cubes. Watch the show, when Voyager attacked the tactical cube, there was NO damage. You should watch the show again, Voyager was helpless against the Borg. There weapons were useless against the Borg. Don't remember when entire fleets of Federation ships couldn't scratch the surface of even on Borg cube. And the obvious reason that the Borg didnt assimilate Earth is that this is a TV show! They wrote it that way in the script!
The Borg didn't assimilate Earth because it was a TV show. How old are you, anyway? The Dominion lost to the Federation with thousands of ships. The Borg were able to destroy entire fleets with one cube. You are wrong, again.
Um, a little common sense. The show couldn't have continued if Earth had been assimilated, so as a plot, it's not an option, and you know it. In reality, the Borg would have assimilated the Federation a long time ago, but the show must go on.
Dominion destroyed more Federation/Romulan/Klingon ships than the Federation did the Dominion. It was said so. The Federation was suffering from massive man storage and scarcity of ships. Dominion were breeding and building 110% faster. The Dominion is much, much stronger than the Borg.
The Federation had trouble with a single cube. The Federation defeated the Dominion.
I don't know why you came to such a silly conclusion. The Dominion ships couldn't even destroy the Defiant. If you watch First Contact, you will see that the Defiant did not last long against the Borg, despite having other ships with it. The Jem Hadar would be no match for the Borg, and you know it!
Wow, you know nothing of the show. The BREEN DID IT, NOT the Dominion. The Dominion did not have that technology. After the Federation adapted to it the Breen were useless in the war. The Borg would adapt easily to the Breen, the JemHadar, or anyone else.
Love those Cardassians: such rich, evil, three dimensional characters...
robapr1 8 months ago
The Vortha woman shows resemblance to Sarah Jessica Parker...
cieniolubek 8 months ago
The Dominion are pussys, the borg wouldn find a way to destroy the founders then assimilate the j=soldiers!
democratsRgay 11 months ago
05:36
"I'm taking an awful risk Lord Vader. This better work".
Lol.
einherje71 1 year ago
3:23 WOW! What a workaround for a plan that was detoured.
9:40 Trapped in a cellar with Kira ... Neither would I try to leave TOO hard. ;)
NameCallingIsWeak 1 year ago
Anyone else think Weyoun might have gone to work at FOX after the war?
trajan74 1 year ago
DS9- one of the greatest shows of all time
2TheDeath 1 year ago
Garak's smile at 3:11 gets me laughing every time
crypto555 2 years ago
Funny around 8:30 that they use the same footage the T.V. audience is suppose to see. It is also seen on Cardassia. ;)
Greatermaxim 2 years ago
Oh, the Star Wars-sneak-on-the-Death-Star-feigning-a-prisoner approach with a changeling twist. Too bad Kyra is not a wookie, eh boys, lol? I would imagine that would be interesting to say the least.
ToriesPolishBoy 2 years ago
damn Vorta women look sexy as hell but thay did not have to kill her
attie3 2 years ago
The Borg wouldn't assimilate the Jem Hadar since the Borg are all about efficiency. The Jem Hadar and their dependence and their genetic addiction the liquid crack ( Ketracel White) would be deemed inefficient by the Collective.
Arqera 2 years ago
Actually they would if they find the tech promising. You forget that the borg are still dependent on their organic side. What the tech inside them does, is provide nutrition for the cells, removes waste byproducts and repairs damage. Nanoprobes do that and other tech inside their bodies. And it's all regulated by the central node located in the center of the brain. Remember how Seven needed a new node and from a dead drone it was not good. Since tech cant be replicated. So borg can crush them
PhotonicDoctor 2 years ago
Has any noticed that one sequence from the wipe out of resistance is also seen in the conquering of the Chintooka system when they got the weapon platforms to blast their own power supply?
mszs 2 years ago
lol borg vs dominan lol results the borg easily overwhelm the dominian via assimilation as they would also do the same to the other races including the federation.
FLAME4564 2 years ago
the Borg couldn't even defeat the Federation.
the Dominion in the Gamma Quadrant is a hundred times more powerful than the Federation
TheGreatLink 2 years ago
true but imagine the the borg making drones out of the dominian lol who knows what would happen if the Dominian became adapted by the borg plus their technology would also be adapted for borg use in other words imaigne borg assimilated dominan attack ships and super battleships.
FLAME4564 2 years ago
Jem'Hadar drones won't be able to live more than 3 days since they are genetically dependent on the Tetracel White which only the Founders can provide.
the Vorta would activate their termination implans and not be assimilated.
and the Founders also can't be assimialted because they can become inorganic and be immune to nano probes.
also the Dominion are experts in making biogenic weapons, they'd be able to poison the Borg.
also they will ram their ships into the borg cube
TheGreatLink 2 years ago
The Jem'Hadar would all be killed, until the Borg learn how to make Ketracel white themselves; only 1 sample would be needed to figure out what it is made of and the technology is easy to assimilate.
The Vorta can only activate the implants if they get the chance, while the Borg transport right next to you and take you off-guard.
Icheb's people are genetic engineering masters that designed him as a living-anti-borg Bio-weapon, guess what devestated species was reduced to nearly pre-Warp.
vegeta002 2 years ago
Ramming wouldn't do much against a race that love very powerful Tractor beams as much as the Borg and have hulls as powerful.
The Federation only won because they had inside info.
Overall, the Dominion wouldn't be worth their time. Minimal risk for no gain.
vegeta002 2 years ago
True.
Jessico76 2 years ago
@Jessico76
The fact that "RedNeckMedia" called Avatar the worst movie ever proves he's an idiot. Let's see you argue on that one...
TheBoomViper 1 year ago
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Jessico76 1 year ago
@Jessico76
"No, it proves NOTHING!"
Really? Calling Avatar "the worst movie ever" sounds like a severe case of inferiority complex. It proves quite a lot. It's one thing saying he doesn't like the film, but the worst movie ever...?
You can't prove otherwise because you know that's what he said.
TheBoomViper 1 year ago
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Jessico76 1 year ago
@Jessico76
"A bad movie made to con people out of their money."
I hate to break this to you but that's what ALL movies have done so far. Moot point.
"He proceeded to explain WHY he thought it was "probably the worst BLUE movie ever that Ive ever seen"."
BLUE movie? You do realise a "blue" film is usually meant for porn? What a joke.
"He backed up ALL of his points."
Which basically means nothing, as they're his opinions - and not the one of mainstream audience.
TheBoomViper 1 year ago
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Jessico76 1 year ago
@Jessico76
"He showed how the blue people had animal like features"
Any brain-damaged moron could tell that. Big deal.
"he pointed out subtle scenes that played on peoples stereotypes"
Which is utter crap, there are no stereotypes in Avatar.
"he used dates when discussing the release of Titanic."
WTF does Titanic have to do with Avatar anyway?
"He backed up all of his points with facts"
More like manipulated them into his statements.
TheBoomViper 1 year ago
@TheBoomViper Why are you still whining on the Deep Spance Nine Page. Im taking this conversation over to the page it should be on.
Jessico76 1 year ago
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@Jessico76
Do as you like, I'm staying here. And you didn't answer my question.
TheBoomViper 1 year ago
@Jessico76
"Cameron was trying to copy the success of Titanic, or in other words, get some cheap bucks."
So you're saying the release date was what brought in 2,7 billion dollars?
"This film was not made to tell a good story or do anything else for that matter."
Correction: Cameron said he was re-telling a story in a different setting. Avatar was made to bring people an immersive sci-fi visual experience.
"Try watching the review, its all explained there."
It's crap, to begin with.
TheBoomViper 1 year ago
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vegeta002 2 years ago
Borg Nanoprobes could prob re-code Jem Hadar DNA to not need white. Im sure they have assimilated other species with addictions of genetic issues. Then again TNG borg are the ones to fear, not the pussy borg that were created in Voyager
himvalo666 2 years ago
Borg will find a way to assimilate founders. They can create a techno virus and then its all over. Queen asked Seven how to assimilate a world at once. She said a virus could do that. So the founders can change to gas, or whatever they change so that nanoprobes would fall off. still they will be assimilated.
PhotonicDoctor 2 years ago
Yes they were not able to assimilate bio organic ships nor the physiology of Species 8472 without outside help. Also, do the founders even have a physiology to assimilate? They can assume any shape from a solid to liquid to gas
himvalo666 2 years ago
Watch the Best of Both Worlds part 2 and see how the Federation ships on Mars don't even get close to the Borg cube before they are destroyed. The Jem Hadar could try to ram the Borg, but their little ships wouldn't even get close to the cube.
Jessico76 2 years ago
@TheGreatLink The borg would adapt to assimilate the jemhadar and would create the tetracel white the same way the borg dont eat and probably change them so they dont need it as they become borg. Again the borg would change them before vorta had a chance to activate anything He too would be assimilated. The borg cubes are huge and many of them only thing saving them would be that race 1356 ? the one janeway help the borg to assimilate.
gongme 1 year ago
@TheGreatLink Most people need food. Borg don't eat, so the Jem'Hadar won't need the white. The Vorta's implants wouldn't work. The borg would force the founders into a solid state so they can be assimialted. Their bio-weapons would work once. Also it would take 100's of ships (that ram into the borg) to come close to destroying the Borg. So the Borg would crush the Dominion with minamal losses.
afreedman1776 9 months ago
@TheGreatLink The borg take the need for sustenance out of anything they can assimilate. Food, water etc and then they make it that you only need to regenerate. In voyager it was revealed they could take a drone that was dead for 18 hours and revive it (Seven used the technique for Neelix). A vorta could be revived.
VOY Unimatrix Zero there is a Jem'Hadar drone.
MrLSD 1 month ago
You know that the Borg would easily defeat the Dominion. The Borg wiped out entire fleets with only one ship. The Dominion sent tens of thousands of ships into the alpha quadrant and even with the added might of the Cardassians and the Breen couldn't come close to Earth.
Jessico76 2 years ago
The Dominion also lost 1250 ships thanks to the Prophets in the wormhole. Also, they were fighting in an area not their own. Similar to WW2 with Germany in Russia. Despite Germany having the superior fighting force, they were too far from their home reserves to fight as effective as they are known to. Hence the major push for DS9 on both sides, whomever controlled the wormhole controlled the quadrant
himvalo666 2 years ago
Not every species can be assimilated, see species 8472. I wonder if the nanobots would work at all since the founders are no solids and have no solid structure, hence the nanobots may swim around like in water and could be easily excreted.
mszs 2 years ago
You could say the same about the virus that the Federation used to poison the founders. Remember, these nano probes are microscopic and work at the molecular level, even liquids have a structure.
Jessico76 2 years ago
@FLAME4564 They would not want to assimilate the jem hadar due to them being drug addicts or the vorta since there clones..... Founders maybe but the borg most likely have not made contact with the dominan.
dryace86 1 month ago
The borg would pimp slap the dominion...they would assimilate the jem hadar and destroy the founders with their weaponry
dpinzow 2 years ago
Continuity Issues
Orci's multiverse Explaining that "Star Trek XI" takes place in an altered timeline, Bob Orci reasons that this would not be a first time in Star Trek. Also, as multiple universes (more precisely the many-worlds interpretation) are a seriously considered concept of quantum mechanics, it would be scientifically correct as well."
There you are, the movie does NOT affect the timeline!
Jessico76 2 years ago
How would the Vorta and the Jem Hadar not recognize Damar? He was the leader of Cardassia all over TV, etc. This is a major plot flaw.
Jessico76 2 years ago
the Cardassian guard did recognize him but pretended not to.
to the Jem'Hadar all Cardassians look alike.
Damar also tried standing behind the others and looked down to be less recognizable
TheGreatLink 2 years ago
The Vorta would have recognized him, and I think the Jem Hadar would have also. Plus, the guard would have looked at him up close when they entered the bridge.
Jessico76 2 years ago
he stood in the background behind the others so the Vorta never saw his face.
he also looked down which made him look a lot different than the way he looks on Dominion TV
TheGreatLink 2 years ago
It was just bad writing. That's it.
Jessico76 2 years ago
It is ironic that Major Kira ends up on Cardassia helping their resistance movement after grow up fighting them
volbound1700 2 years ago
Is Kira trying not to laugh? Look at 0:45 she looks at Garak and trys to keep her lips from cracking lol
NathanNagy 2 years ago
if the federation beat the borg single handedly ,all be it after heavy losses, then the dominion ,that matches a combined federation klingon romulan alliance, would manage to handle the borg
nisbetsloyal 3 years ago
No, that means nothing. The Borg sent ONE ship and destroyed over 200 ships in First Contact. The Dominion couldn't beat the federation even with thousands of ships AND the Breen, AND the Cardassians.
Jessico76 2 years ago
only a tiny fraction of the Dominion fleet was in the Alpha Quadrant.
in the Gamma Quadrant they have unlimited number of ships and soldiers which they can mass produce.
the Federation would not stand a chance against the Dominion if they were not cut off from the Gamma Quadrant.
they only won the war thanks to the Klingons, Romulans And Cardassians (and might have lost if not for Odo)
TheGreatLink 2 years ago
yes but the dominion ould think nothing of using a million jem hadar to pilot ships head on in2 the borg squares, or even whole populations of there vassal planets,also 1 changeling could easily get on a borg ship and cause all kinds of damage
nisbetsloyal 2 years ago
The Borg would adapt after a few minutes. First of all, they are borg cubes, nor borg squares. The Borg have millions of ships, the Dominion does not. The Changling could be assimilated by the borg, or contained by force fields. The Dominion's weapons would not damage the Borg ships.
Jessico76 2 years ago
the Dominion probably has hundreds of thousands of ships in the gamma quadrant and can make a lot more.
they will ram these ships into the cubes.
the Jem'Hadar cannot be assimilated because they are addicted to a drug only the founders can provide.
the Dominion technology is better than the Federation's. if the Federation managed to defeat the Borg every time the Dominion will also.
and obviously the Borg can't send more than a few cubes or they would have done it against Earth
TheGreatLink 2 years ago
Again, you talk but back it up with NOTHING. Do you even watch the show? The Borg destroyed hundreds of ships with one little cube, and in Voyager you see that they have thousands.
The Jemhadar can be assimilated because the Borg implants would provide everything they needed. The Borg don't eat, so the implants are everything. The JemHadar are missing an enzyme, but the Borg could easily make it. Their technology is far superior to either the Federation or the Dominion.
Jessico76 2 years ago
The Borg have only sent one cube at a time because there is no way the script writers could have made a believable story about the Federation beating the Borg with that many ships. There is just no way. The Borg were the most powerful enemy in the Star Trek Universe until we see 8702. The Dominion barely was able to destroy little Klingon birds of prey, and lost to the Federation. The Borg would have crushed the Dominion the way you would step on an ant.
Jessico76 2 years ago
rubbish there is no way theyy could adapt to a star ship colliding with a cube/square/sphere/orsumsuch at warp 9.further more the dominion have conquered a whole quadrant with millions of planets of resources to call on and jem hadar can be reproduced with out limit not to mention the trillions of subject peoples to use as they see fit.CHANGELINGS ARE NOT SOLID AND THERFORE CANT BE ASSIMILATED.jem hadar could also be bred to explode on assimilation or deliver a virus like hue did
nisbetsloyal 2 years ago
Yes they would, besides, the Jem Hadar would n't even get close. Did you see how the Borg flew through the orbital defenses on Mars. The Jem Hadar wouldn't even destroy one cube. The only ones more powerful than the Borg are the Q and species 8472
Jessico76 2 years ago
Dominion vs V'Ger. who wins?
joness105639 3 years ago
The Borg are most powerful the dominion would have lose big time if the borg had got in the dominion war
Slayer13yy 3 years ago 2
lol but ur forgetting that if the borg owned the dominan they would also turn their sights and go after the klingons,romulans b4 persuing the federation.
FLAME4564 3 years ago
You are right, the Borg would crush the Dominion with east.
Jessico76 2 years ago
Why the Dominion would win against the Borg: The Dominion, or at least the bulk of them, cannot be assimilated! We know the nanoprobes attack ONLY(!) blood cells. Founders don't have blood. The Jem'Hadar are addicted to ketracel-white, not even the Federation was able to replicate it - neither would the Borg. The Vorta have a hyper immune system that destroys all foreign objects from their system, such as powerful poisons and nanos! Long live the Dominion!
escottish140 3 years ago
They could always simply destory the ships.
miestermatt 3 years ago 2
Dominion would probably outnumber the Borg when it comes to ship numbers. They may be small, but they pack a punch! Just ram one of those babies into a cube laced with explosives and BOOM, Borg down, and re-clone the crew. However, the Dominion are smart enough not to result to violence, they could use that "I, Borg" unsolvable geometric problem and commit mass-genocide. Long live the Dominion.
escottish140 3 years ago
"they could use that "I, Borg" unsolvable geometric problem and commit mass-genocide. Long live the Dominion. " Or just install windows XP on the borg computers. Once the hive mind assimilates minesweeper and solitare the borg will be weakened, furthermore, to my knowlege the borg do not use keyboards, so in the event of a system crash, there is no cntrl alt del!
joness105639 3 years ago
CTRL + ALT + DEL = Vulcan Nerve Pinch
escottish140 3 years ago
The Borg have millions of ships, didn't you see their unimatrix? It was huge, spanning hundreds of systems. The Jem Hadar fighters would be no match for the Borg.
Jessico76 2 years ago
the borg might have millions of ships but they can't send them all (otherwise why did they send only one cube at a time against earth?)
the Borg probably have a lot of enemies in the Delta Quadrant and they can't afford to send more than a few cubes to a distant quadrant
TheGreatLink 2 years ago
Duh, they only sent one because the shows wouldn't have lasted long if the Federation had been assimilated. The Borg were hundreds of thousands of years ahead of the Federation, according to Q. They had all kinds of ships that could cross the galaxy in a very short time.
Jessico76 2 years ago
That's why they're so easy to kill. One target. You kamaza with some one ship laced with a bomb. Dominion wins!
escottish140 2 years ago
The Borg would adapt to the Jem Hadar ships and would stop them with tractor beams. Besides, the Jem Hadar fighters are tiny compared to the Cubes. Did you see the Borg cube that passed Mars. It destroyed the approaching defense ships with one shot. It would destroy the Jem Hadar and the Jem Hadar would not even get close enough to ram the Borg.
Jessico76 2 years ago
The Borg had no threats that we know of in the Delta Quadrant, and we don't know if that was their home space, only that they had a unimatrix there.
Jessico76 2 years ago
no they wouldn't, the Dominion would be outnumbered and outgunned. The Borg would adapt to the Dominions weapons and it would be all over. Even the Cardassians stopped Odo from changing shapes. Plus,. the I Borg virus was never tested or proven to have worked. It was all a theory.
Jessico76 2 years ago
Nope. If you watch the DS9 series, the Dominion had more weapons than the Borg and completely different tactics from any other race. It takes HOURS for the Federation to defeat one Borg cube because they don't like RISK. Dominion THRIVES on risk. They don't care about killing off a few ships and entire crew to win a war because they can just make more. Five seconds, that's all they need.
escottish140 2 years ago
That's the sillies thing I have ever heard. Don't like risk? Two hundred ships were destroyed in First Contact, who is that not risk? They risked their lives to destroy the Borg Cube.
Jessico76 2 years ago
if it takes just 200 ships to destroy a cube, and the dominion has over 100,000 ships, they'd be able to destroy at least 500 cubes, which is a lot more than what the Borg can afford to send at them
TheGreatLink 2 years ago
Now that's just lame. Do you even think before you write this stuff. The Borg destroyed 200 ships and were still in one piece. They only were destroyed by Picard and some questionable script writing. Besides, even if what you said is true, the Borg would adapt and would not lose many ships, plus, they have millions, so they could lose a few. You just make this stuff up because you don't know much about trek.
Jessico76 2 years ago
Excuse me, please. Allow me to rephrase that: They are too...cautious! They didn't take the direct approach, instead then the Borg make a move first and was taken by surprise, as a result they got the upperhand. One thing for the Dominion, they are direct, even if they're slimy and extremely treacherous about it. They have a habit playing it discreet then biting you in the end, placing the blame on someone else.
escottish140 2 years ago
irrelevant. The Borg would destroy them with superior weapons, speed, and numbers. The Dominion has nothing on the borg.
Jessico76 2 years ago
Federation > Borg
Dominion > the Federation
- - - - - -
Dominion > Federation > Borg
conclusion:
Dominion > Borg
TheGreatLink 2 years ago
That's idiotic. you just make things up. I already proved to you that the Borg are far superior.
Q>8472>Borg> all the rest. End of discussion. Please stop responding until you have something intelligent to say, you just look silly.
Jessico76 2 years ago
it's a fact that the Federation defeated the Borg every single time.
the Federation couldn't defeat the Dominion even with help from the Romulans, Klingons, and Cardassians.
(federation wouldn't stand a chance against the dominion in the gamma quadrant)
TheGreatLink 2 years ago
@TheGreatLink Actually, the Dominion proved to be pathetic. They made almost no technological advancements during the war, while the Federation adapted to both the phased poloran beams and the Breen Energy weapons. The Dominion could NOT find a cure to the virus the Federation used to poison the founders, and the Dominion was UNABLE to do anything to get the wormhole open. At the end of the war the Jem Hadar ships still are destroyed by a few shots from the Defiant.
Jessico76 1 year ago
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@TheGreatLink - "it's a fact that the Federation defeated the Borg every single time." Hello. Thanks for these videos. They are awesome. Those victories were the result of 1) clever thinking by the Enterprise crew after they captured Locutus. 2) Insider knowledge of the Borg by Picard (formerly Locutus), which allowed him to "hear" about the overload targeted by the Federation fleet in "First Contact" 3) Data's uniqueness drawing the Borg Queen's attention, allowing Data's betrayal.Comment?
NameCallingIsWeak 1 year ago
@TheGreatLink "The Federation couldnt defeat the Dominion." ??? Did you even watch the series. The Dominion was manhandled in the end. Their fleet was surrounded, their leaders, the founders, posioned and dying, and their allies the Cardassians abandoned them.
The Dominion made no technological breakthroughs during the war. They couldnt find a cure to the disease that was killing the founders. They couldnt open the wormhole, and they couldnt take Earth. Even the Breen didnt help them.
Jessico76 1 year ago
@Jessico76 You also forget that the Dominion sucked at playing politics. They turned the Cardassians against them and were unable to stop the Romulans from joining with the Federation. They also were never successful at dividing the Klingons and the Federation. The Dominion really was worthless. The founder who controlled the Dominion was incompotent, and Weyoun was arrogant and condescending.
Jessico76 1 year ago
Please watch Best of Both Worlds again. How can you say that the Federation is better than the Borg when their weapons don't even scratch a cube??? You are just doing this to be annoying!
Jessico76 2 years ago
Cardassians developed a weapon for Odo, but that's only for room. Odo wouldn't PHYSICAL hurt Garak; a real Founder could care less to kill him with bare hands. "I, Borg" virus is a theory; Data's theories have a lucky habit of always working!
escottish140 2 years ago
The Borg are hundreds of thousands of years ahead of the Cardassians. The founders would not be able to do anything to the Borg, because the Borg would stop them from shapeshifting and adapt to their transporters.
Jessico76 2 years ago
the Borg don't adap to new weapons instantly.
when the Enterprise D encountered the Borg for the first time they destroyed 20% of the cube with only 3 phaser shots.
so the Borg are very weak if you know how to fight them
TheGreatLink 2 years ago
The Borg adapted very quickly, repaired their ship fully while at warp speed, and adapted the weapons of the enterprise. The photon torpedoes did NOTHING to the cube, not even scratch it. Watch the episode more closely to see Picard begging Q to get them out of there.
Jessico76 2 years ago
no it took the cube nearly half an hour before it repaired itself.
during that time the enterprise could easily destroy the cube.
TheGreatLink 2 years ago
The Borg have always adapted after a few shot. They would have adapted. Plus, the cube can operate if most of it is inoperable. In Best of Both Worlds part 1 they say a cube can operate even in 78% of it is inoperable.
Jessico76 2 years ago
yeah and in First Contact they destroyed the cube by firing at the same spot.
if you know how to fight the Borg you can destroy them.
the Dominion also has biogenic weapons which the Borg can't adapt to
TheGreatLink 2 years ago
Now you are being ridiculous. The Borg can adapt to anything, including biogenic weapons. They can take out the shields of a ship in seconds, and adapt to phaser hits after one or two shots.
Why do you insist? The Dominion would be extremely lucky to destroy one cube, but they couldn't defeat the borg. They would be crushed.
Jessico76 2 years ago
No, the enterprise's weapons were never a match for the Borg. Did you watch The Best of Both Worlds part 1 when the Borg adapted to the weapons before the entreprise fired. The Enterprise was never a threat to the Borg, and neither is the Dominion.
Jessico76 2 years ago
Watch the Best of Both Worlds 2, and you will see that the fleet not only could NOT defeat the Borg, but they couldn't even retreat, they were all destroyed.
Jessico76 2 years ago
the fleet at Wolf 359 was defeated only because the Borg assimilated Picard who knew all about the battle plans, allowing the Borg to adapt before the battle even started.
if not for Picard's knowledge the cube would have been destroyed by the Enterprise's deflector dish
TheGreatLink 2 years ago
You mean to say MIGHT have. What Picard and the others had was a THEORY, one that was never tested. You haven't proven anything. Besides, look at how easily the Defiant destroyed Jem Hadar vessels. The Dominion didn't have the technology to compete with the Borg!
Jessico76 2 years ago
The Dominion wouldn't stand a chance against the borg. The Borg have much superior technology, range, and numbers. It would not be a competition.
Jessico76 2 years ago
Superior technology is nothing compared to superior tactics and intellect of the Dominion. The Dominion is quick and thorough. They can destory a Borg cube in seconds using kamaza tactics. The unimatrix would fall as well. They would sneak attack and kill the queen. You kill the queen, the Borg fall. You kill a Founder and they seek utter vengence to the last Jem'Hadar. You can always breed more.
escottish140 2 years ago
The intellect of the Dominion??? You are joking, right? They didn't figure out how to get their ships around the prophets, they didn't figure out how to cure the illness infecting the founders, they didn't anticipate Damar's rebellion, and they couldn't stop Sisko from arming the minefield. Face it, they got beat. As for the Borg, they think nothing of sacrificing their drones, and they have millions of them. The Dominion wouldnt be able to destroy a single cube let along thousands of them.
Jessico76 2 years ago
The Prophets had to be blackmailed to even do anything. One thing about the Borg is that they're predictable. One ship, straight line, threat, assimilate, next world. The Dominion were unpredictable and resorted to very dirty tactics and politics which curled the toes of the Romulans. Damar's rebellion was crushed from hundreds of members in technically THREE in the end. If the Dominion had more time, I think they would have gotten the cure for the Founders. Drones are nothing to Jem'Hadar.
escottish140 2 years ago
LOL, the Romulans were pathetic. Even Q said so when the Enterprise met the Borg. He mentioned that the Borg were much more powerful than the "pitiful" Klingons, and Romulans.
Their tactic would not have had any effect on the Borg, who would adapt easily to anything the Dominion did. Face the facts, the Borg were smarter, more powerful, and had greater numbers. The Dominion was the Federation with a little more power.
Jessico76 2 years ago
the Dominion is a hundred times more powerful than the Federation.
so if the Federation defeated the Borg so would the Dominion.
the Dominion is a lot smarter than the Federation, has a lot more resources, inexhauses supply of expendable soldiers and ships.
the Dominion are also experts in making biogenic weapons and genetically engineered viruses.
they'd make a bio weapon that would kill the Borg drones
TheGreatLink 2 years ago
Actually, the Jem Hadar kill themselves when they allow a founder to die. That wouldn't help much, would it?
Jessico76 2 years ago
it would be impossible for the Borg to assimilate a Founder.
even if their nanoprobes would work on a changeling (which is highly unlikely) the changelings are simply too fast for Borg Drones who are very slow moving because they're just zombie robots
TheGreatLink 2 years ago
I love to see Nana Visitor, she is cute and sexy at the same time.
tvdementetv 3 years ago
Not to mention she looks even hotter in a Starfleet uniform. ;)
animeownage86 3 years ago 4
your cool man
WYBEACHBUM 3 years ago
according too Bridge Commander....The Dominion Lose Against the borg during a Quick battle....took 1 minute for a borg tactical cube to pwn a Dominion Battle Dread lol
VampiricSpektor 3 years ago
Those are unoffical fan made addons, and thus are completely without merit. The official Bridge Commander game has neither Borg or Dominion ships featuring.
s2k997 3 years ago
Could the Dominion beat the Borg?
TitanicTarn 3 years ago
yes, through sucide attacks by the jem hader
mrocean21 3 years ago
No, they couldn't.
Jessico76 2 years ago
Voyager was a small ships with no supplies and they destroyed dozens of Borg cubes during the series.
so if your arguement is based on the voyager series which showed you thousands of Borg cubes, you need to remember those cubes were incredibly weak compared to the ones in the other series.
you can't hav eit both ways. either the Borg have only a few very powerful cubes, or they have thousands of weak ones.
because if they have both they would have easily assimilated Earth a long time ago
TheGreatLink 2 years ago
Voyager did NOT destroy dozens of Borg cubes. Watch the show, when Voyager attacked the tactical cube, there was NO damage. You should watch the show again, Voyager was helpless against the Borg. There weapons were useless against the Borg. Don't remember when entire fleets of Federation ships couldn't scratch the surface of even on Borg cube. And the obvious reason that the Borg didnt assimilate Earth is that this is a TV show! They wrote it that way in the script!
Jessico76 2 years ago
so if the Borg did not manage to assimilate Earth what makes you think they'll be able to assimilate the Dominion which is much stronger?
TheGreatLink 2 years ago
The Borg didn't assimilate Earth because it was a TV show. How old are you, anyway? The Dominion lost to the Federation with thousands of ships. The Borg were able to destroy entire fleets with one cube. You are wrong, again.
Jessico76 2 years ago
lol "The Borg didn't assimilate Earth because it was a TV show"
what exactly are you argueing with me about if not about stuff in the TV show?
TheGreatLink 2 years ago
Um, a little common sense. The show couldn't have continued if Earth had been assimilated, so as a plot, it's not an option, and you know it. In reality, the Borg would have assimilated the Federation a long time ago, but the show must go on.
Jessico76 2 years ago
Dominion destroyed more Federation/Romulan/Klingon ships than the Federation did the Dominion. It was said so. The Federation was suffering from massive man storage and scarcity of ships. Dominion were breeding and building 110% faster. The Dominion is much, much stronger than the Borg.
escottish140 2 years ago
The Federation had trouble with a single cube. The Federation defeated the Dominion.
I don't know why you came to such a silly conclusion. The Dominion ships couldn't even destroy the Defiant. If you watch First Contact, you will see that the Defiant did not last long against the Borg, despite having other ships with it. The Jem Hadar would be no match for the Borg, and you know it!
Jessico76 2 years ago
Actually, the Dominion DID destory the Defiant ONCE! Remember, there are TWO Defiants.
escottish140 2 years ago
Wow, you know nothing of the show. The BREEN DID IT, NOT the Dominion. The Dominion did not have that technology. After the Federation adapted to it the Breen were useless in the war. The Borg would adapt easily to the Breen, the JemHadar, or anyone else.
Jessico76 2 years ago
How would rhe Dominion fare in a battle with the Borg?
TitanicTarn 3 years ago
The Dominion would be crushed. They have trouble destroying little Klingon birds of prey. They could never hurt the Borg.
Jessico76 2 years ago
Thanks for uploading - love Garak, he can be so cold
njb1980 4 years ago
Agree Kira looks amazing in federation´s uniform, she is so pretty ^_^
Godsfirstangel 4 years ago
Dammit Kira is hot...
oldford71 4 years ago 3
Love all the Garak scenes, thanks for uploading :)
DrHannibalLecterMD 4 years ago
good
cards145 4 years ago