I guess the only way Gatesand Mullen can restore their honor if they had any to begin with is to either shove a pistol in their mouthes or fall on their swords. The removal of the DADT ban does not improve military fighting effectiveness. Instead is degrades good order and discipline and the distractions it causes will lead to unnecessary and easily avoidable combat and peacetime deaths. Thank you mullen head and gates.
Finally, SHAME on McCain. Im sure he was embarassed by this. Now let's see if openly gays in the military can hurt military effectivesness and order? HmmmMMmmmm.... McCain is so HYPOCRITE and BIGOT! Im sorry, but thats the best word to describe the senator from Arizona. Glad he's not my president, or else America would be doomed.
See, what I do not understand here is ummm.. well a couple things.For one, since when is input from subordinates necessary in deciding to change institutional policy?I do not remember employers I worked for ever at meetings asking what employees think about possible changes in policy.Number two, the excuse that there is economic turmoil is irrelevant when regarding equality.I am happy of the mention that DADT conflicts with overall military philosophy of honesty and integrity among personnel.
when has personal life come into play in work life, where does it say in any legslation that Im not allowed to love who I want to ? I did not know that the government was allowed to tell you who you could be, hello you are not my mother.
If Im standing out in the great sandbox with people shooting at me Im not looking at the guy to my left or the girl to my right thinking oh no they might be gay, which renders them incapable of doing their job, I think not.
When we were passing Civil Rights legislation, did we do a STUDY to see how the whites would respond if blacks were given equal rights? During the suffrage movement, did they do a STUDY to see if men wanted women to have the right to vote? Did Lincoln commission a STUDY to see if people would have a problem with the idea of abolishing slavery? This is BS.
@Il00OOll They do it so at least they can please those Repubs. Because they believe that most service members dont like gays in the military or its not the will of American people, right Palin? haha
Toxic is Obviously stupid! I am gay-- and i get along with mostly all str8 people-- I dont act like a queen-- im not mentally "gone" Nigga Im probably smarter than u Bitch!
No this policy is a failure. The DADT legalizes homophobic hate remarks, and it forces service members to serve in silence. No Gays & Lesbians are allowed to date while being in the miltiary. It's extremely discriminatory.
Obama campaigned on this. Presidents don't get everything they wish for. They have Congress to deal with. It would be undemocratic for A President to force his agenda on us no matter the cost.
@ToxicOdiousOne "We don't need this policy change". Perhaps you are not keeping up with current events. Google search the topic, "Gay translators in the military". Like it or not, gays are better educated and tend to gravitate toward the more intellectual jobs in the military. There is a reason that there are more gays computer programers than there are gay garbage collectors. So no offense Toxic, but the military needs the brains of the gays (and the mechanical aptitude of the lesbians.)
@RottingintheMidwest Unfortunately, "sodomy" is defined by the UCMJ as any sexual activity that is not procreative. That means oral sex and masturbation are illegal by the definition of the UCMJ. So we need to prosecute and dishonorably discharge every service member who has masturbated or engaged in oral sex with their lawful spouse.
To equate race with homosexuality is just nonsensical. Race is genetic. You choose your sexual orientation. Sodomite terrorist lie and say homosexuality is genetic in an attempt to justify their lusts but no sodomite gene exists, because they reject the science that says homosexuality is mental disorder. 40 years of homosexuality have not been for the better.
@RottingintheMidwest Science says homosexuality is a mental disorder. Just because some sodomite terrorists had the APA change that means nothing. That was a political decision and not a scientific one. Of course the "new science" says it's just fine. Where does this "new science" derived from though, pro sodomite studies conducted on sodomites by pro sodomite organizations?
@ToxicOdiousOne says science declares homosexuality is a mental disorder. According to the DSMIII manual of mental disorders, homosexuality is not a disorder, but is a normal orientation for a percentage of the human population. Why do you accept anything the APA says. You pick and choose what science says according to your homophobic agenda. In past postings, I thought you sounded like a sexually confused pre-adult. Obviously you are intelligent. Do you believe in evolution?
I do. I believe Haiti and Chilli are natural selection. They failed to adapt to their environment so fuck them. Yes Sir. If gays die of AIDS it's natural selection.
@ToxicOdiousOne sounds like an educated idiot. He is pro-ovens for gays....btw Toxic, the procedure was to gas them first, then put them in the ovens....he uses terms like, fag, queer, dyke, etc. He is not Joe the plumber....him....he is anti-feminist....but Bobby Riggs is dead.....hmmm....he can't be Dick Cheney cause even Darth Cheney is in favor of lifting the ban.....He believes Hatians and Chilians deserve to die for being over crowded... ToxicOdiousOne - are you Sarah Palin?
Cheney's daughter is a dyke. What a turncoat. If my daughter was a dyke I would stick to my principals and avoid "it" because I absolutely despise "it". I believe they failed to adapt to the environment so Darwin says they die.
@ToxicOdiousOne says dykes failed to adapt to the environment, so Darwin says they die. How did dykes fail to adapt? Have you read the theory of Natural Selection? Oh, I forgot. You are Sarah Palin. OK Sarah. Darwinism supports Homosexualtiy. If every human was heterosexual, then we would all procreate. Having a percentage of our species incapable of procreation is Natural Selection at work. Nature could have selected 10% of us to be sterile, but it didn't. Instead, 10% of us are homosexual.
@ToxicOdiousOne is being disrespectful. It is appropriate to refer to him as, "The Chancelor". However, again Toxic, (or what I now prefer to call her, Sarah Palin) has made yet another error. The Chancellor had known homosexuals in his government and in his military. The dissidents to which you are referring opposed the policies of the Third Reich. Homosexual who supported The Chancellor were not sent to the camps. If you doubt me, google "Paragraph 175" and watch it.
@ToxicOdiousOne is wrong about the pink triangle being a symbol of a homosexual. It was the symbol of homosexual dissidents, those who opposed the Third Reich.
@ToxicOdiousOne says that dykes are useless to the State. Have you ever had to get dinner on the table but the kitchen sink was clogged. Remember the Enjoli Song, "I can bring home the bacon, fry it up in the pan and never, never, let you for get that I'm a man"
A female is not man. My plumper is male. Joe the plumper. Not dyke who advertises her asscrack and I can she she's not wearing anything underneath but her tattoo. I want a plumper not an exhibitionist. Certainly not a stripper.
@ToxicOdiousOne also made a Freudian slip....can everyone spot it in his comment about who takes care of his pipes? Joe the "Plump-er". Toxic likes to think of his plumber being "plump-er"
Homosexuality is mental disorder. In 1973 against the science, must like climate gate, sodomite gate had sodomite terrorists terrorizing the APA to claim that homosexuality was not "a serious mental disturbance". Children of homosexuals are raised gay and lesbian anarchy is encouraged as are a disrespect for law and law enforcement officials. They were never disciplined as children. We are about to let these criminals radically transform the military. They want to destroy it!
Our country is in FLAMES and THIS is what they are doing? This is what they are concerned with? Talk about going after the low-hanging fruit in order to please their globalist masters and Leftist supporters. F- for this administration.
@jusitke07 We don't give people special rights based on who they fuck. Anybody can claim they are gay. It's subjective and unverifiable. Next time you get fired even if you were straight you can claim they fired you because you were gay even though it's a total lie. What utter silliness. Catering to somebody's mental illness!
@jusitke07 Excuse me? Race has nothing to do with faggotry. How dare you belittle civil rights with these sexual perverts. Today it's faggots and dyke we are forced to tolerate tomorrow our military is accommodating pedophiles. How do faggots and dykes get to turn a conservative organization into a collectivist amoral moral nihilist liberal socialist communist organization over night?
@jusitke07 Roland Burris is a fraud. They all are. He said what he said because the only thing you learned in school is how to put a condom on a cucumber and that whites are "mean" to blacks, and just mentioning "Civil Rights" rings the little bell in your head. Did you even watch this video?
"He said what he said because the only thing you learned in school is how to put a condom on a cucumber..."
...???...Where do I begin to respond that kind of comment? Highly unprofessional and illogic, plus I can read between the lines....you're racist towards blacks.
and you're an ignorance enabler. Get your head out of your ass and get with the new, more accepting and compassionate world or you will be left the fuck behind.
@damonandcuponoodles Acceptance and compassion codeword empathy are irrelevant to the military. Stop telling everybody we have to be more tolerant. Should I be more tolerant of child molesters too? Should I be forced by law to tolerate every sexual paraphilia known to man against my will? America is a free country. Coercion has no place here. Stop trying to enforce diversity on those who don't want it. You are like blacks fighting to attend a Klan rally. What do you expect will happen?
@damonandcuponoodles I'd rather be left behind then be a sheep following the amoral moral nihilist atheist who constantly attack religion and any reasonable moral limits on behavior. You can't do whatever you want without consequences. I don't want to exist in a moral vacuum where nothing has any value.
@damonandcuponoodles "get your head out of your ass and be more compassionate"? HAHA, is that a joke? That is your problem. You think you are being a good person, but you are just advocating bad policy. Do you think you are smarter than our forefathers? You aren't, and you are going to make all of us repeat the mistakes of the past by supporting any legislation that makes you feel good.
I guess the only way Gatesand Mullen can restore their honor if they had any to begin with is to either shove a pistol in their mouthes or fall on their swords. The removal of the DADT ban does not improve military fighting effectiveness. Instead is degrades good order and discipline and the distractions it causes will lead to unnecessary and easily avoidable combat and peacetime deaths. Thank you mullen head and gates.
huskie767 4 months ago
Finally, SHAME on McCain. Im sure he was embarassed by this. Now let's see if openly gays in the military can hurt military effectivesness and order? HmmmMMmmmm.... McCain is so HYPOCRITE and BIGOT! Im sorry, but thats the best word to describe the senator from Arizona. Glad he's not my president, or else America would be doomed.
Gelli889 1 year ago
See, what I do not understand here is ummm.. well a couple things.For one, since when is input from subordinates necessary in deciding to change institutional policy?I do not remember employers I worked for ever at meetings asking what employees think about possible changes in policy.Number two, the excuse that there is economic turmoil is irrelevant when regarding equality.I am happy of the mention that DADT conflicts with overall military philosophy of honesty and integrity among personnel.
j4unumber1 1 year ago
when has personal life come into play in work life, where does it say in any legslation that Im not allowed to love who I want to ? I did not know that the government was allowed to tell you who you could be, hello you are not my mother.
If Im standing out in the great sandbox with people shooting at me Im not looking at the guy to my left or the girl to my right thinking oh no they might be gay, which renders them incapable of doing their job, I think not.
ChaoticSailor 1 year ago
When we were passing Civil Rights legislation, did we do a STUDY to see how the whites would respond if blacks were given equal rights? During the suffrage movement, did they do a STUDY to see if men wanted women to have the right to vote? Did Lincoln commission a STUDY to see if people would have a problem with the idea of abolishing slavery? This is BS.
Il00OOll 1 year ago
@Il00OOll They do it so at least they can please those Repubs. Because they believe that most service members dont like gays in the military or its not the will of American people, right Palin? haha
Gelli889 1 year ago
mullen looks like he doesn't support the change but is being forced to or something. You can just see it in his stuck up attitude and face.
MrDetwaa 1 year ago
@MrDetwaa No, he's really supportive about it. It's just he is so serious all the time, i dunnow if u know that lol
Gelli889 1 year ago
The Nazis marked them with a pink triangle.
ToxicOdiousOne 2 years ago
I want to see nobody's anus I assue you.
ToxicOdiousOne 2 years ago
@ToxicOdiousOne No one would want to see your mosquito bite dick bro. SORRY!
Gelli889 1 year ago
What is it with gays and psychoanalysis? Freud was an alcoholic and a sex addiict. His theories have been seen as greviously flawed.
ToxicOdiousOne 2 years ago
Toxic is Obviously stupid! I am gay-- and i get along with mostly all str8 people-- I dont act like a queen-- im not mentally "gone" Nigga Im probably smarter than u Bitch!
Estatic9 2 years ago
No this policy is a failure. The DADT legalizes homophobic hate remarks, and it forces service members to serve in silence. No Gays & Lesbians are allowed to date while being in the miltiary. It's extremely discriminatory.
jusitke07 2 years ago 2
Obama campaigned on this. Presidents don't get everything they wish for. They have Congress to deal with. It would be undemocratic for A President to force his agenda on us no matter the cost.
ToxicOdiousOne 2 years ago
@ToxicOdiousOne "A President to force his agenda on us no matter the cost"....you mean like GWBush.
SethKlan 2 years ago
We don't need this policy change. This is just senseless.
ToxicOdiousOne 2 years ago
@ToxicOdiousOne "We don't need this policy change". Perhaps you are not keeping up with current events. Google search the topic, "Gay translators in the military". Like it or not, gays are better educated and tend to gravitate toward the more intellectual jobs in the military. There is a reason that there are more gays computer programers than there are gay garbage collectors. So no offense Toxic, but the military needs the brains of the gays (and the mechanical aptitude of the lesbians.)
SethKlan 2 years ago
do you even know what sodomy is? homosexual does not equal sodomy.
RottingintheMidwest 2 years ago
@RottingintheMidwest Unfortunately, "sodomy" is defined by the UCMJ as any sexual activity that is not procreative. That means oral sex and masturbation are illegal by the definition of the UCMJ. So we need to prosecute and dishonorably discharge every service member who has masturbated or engaged in oral sex with their lawful spouse.
SethKlan 2 years ago
To equate race with homosexuality is just nonsensical. Race is genetic. You choose your sexual orientation. Sodomite terrorist lie and say homosexuality is genetic in an attempt to justify their lusts but no sodomite gene exists, because they reject the science that says homosexuality is mental disorder. 40 years of homosexuality have not been for the better.
ToxicOdiousOne 2 years ago
@ToxicOdiousOne
science disagrees with you.
RottingintheMidwest 2 years ago
@RottingintheMidwest Science says homosexuality is a mental disorder. Just because some sodomite terrorists had the APA change that means nothing. That was a political decision and not a scientific one. Of course the "new science" says it's just fine. Where does this "new science" derived from though, pro sodomite studies conducted on sodomites by pro sodomite organizations?
ToxicOdiousOne 2 years ago
@ToxicOdiousOne says science declares homosexuality is a mental disorder. According to the DSMIII manual of mental disorders, homosexuality is not a disorder, but is a normal orientation for a percentage of the human population. Why do you accept anything the APA says. You pick and choose what science says according to your homophobic agenda. In past postings, I thought you sounded like a sexually confused pre-adult. Obviously you are intelligent. Do you believe in evolution?
SethKlan 2 years ago
I do. I believe Haiti and Chilli are natural selection. They failed to adapt to their environment so fuck them. Yes Sir. If gays die of AIDS it's natural selection.
I'm a proud homophobe. Yes.
ToxicOdiousOne 2 years ago
@ToxicOdiousOne I feel like playing "What's My Line" with you.... Are you Joe the Plumber?
SethKlan 2 years ago
No.
ToxicOdiousOne 2 years ago
@ToxicOdiousOne sounds like an educated idiot. He is pro-ovens for gays....btw Toxic, the procedure was to gas them first, then put them in the ovens....he uses terms like, fag, queer, dyke, etc. He is not Joe the plumber....him....he is anti-feminist....but Bobby Riggs is dead.....hmmm....he can't be Dick Cheney cause even Darth Cheney is in favor of lifting the ban.....He believes Hatians and Chilians deserve to die for being over crowded... ToxicOdiousOne - are you Sarah Palin?
SethKlan 2 years ago
Cheney's daughter is a dyke. What a turncoat. If my daughter was a dyke I would stick to my principals and avoid "it" because I absolutely despise "it". I believe they failed to adapt to the environment so Darwin says they die.
ToxicOdiousOne 2 years ago
@ToxicOdiousOne says dykes failed to adapt to the environment, so Darwin says they die. How did dykes fail to adapt? Have you read the theory of Natural Selection? Oh, I forgot. You are Sarah Palin. OK Sarah. Darwinism supports Homosexualtiy. If every human was heterosexual, then we would all procreate. Having a percentage of our species incapable of procreation is Natural Selection at work. Nature could have selected 10% of us to be sterile, but it didn't. Instead, 10% of us are homosexual.
SethKlan 2 years ago
Hitler had the right idea with the queers. Dykes are useless to the State.
ToxicOdiousOne 2 years ago
@ToxicOdiousOne is being disrespectful. It is appropriate to refer to him as, "The Chancelor". However, again Toxic, (or what I now prefer to call her, Sarah Palin) has made yet another error. The Chancellor had known homosexuals in his government and in his military. The dissidents to which you are referring opposed the policies of the Third Reich. Homosexual who supported The Chancellor were not sent to the camps. If you doubt me, google "Paragraph 175" and watch it.
SethKlan 2 years ago
The pink triangle was the symbol on homosexuals marked for death.
ToxicOdiousOne 2 years ago
@ToxicOdiousOne is wrong about the pink triangle being a symbol of a homosexual. It was the symbol of homosexual dissidents, those who opposed the Third Reich.
SethKlan 2 years ago
@ToxicOdiousOne says that dykes are useless to the State. Have you ever had to get dinner on the table but the kitchen sink was clogged. Remember the Enjoli Song, "I can bring home the bacon, fry it up in the pan and never, never, let you for get that I'm a man"
SethKlan 2 years ago
A female is not man. My plumper is male. Joe the plumper. Not dyke who advertises her asscrack and I can she she's not wearing anything underneath but her tattoo. I want a plumper not an exhibitionist. Certainly not a stripper.
ToxicOdiousOne 2 years ago
@ToxicOdiousOne has already established the fact that he would prefer to see the asscrack of Joe the Plumber than the asscrack of Ellen Degeneress.
SethKlan 2 years ago
@SethKlan misspelled Ellen's last name. Its Degeneres. And Toxic would rather see Joe the Plumber's asscrack than hers.
SethKlan 2 years ago
@ToxicOdiousOne also made a Freudian slip....can everyone spot it in his comment about who takes care of his pipes? Joe the "Plump-er". Toxic likes to think of his plumber being "plump-er"
SethKlan 2 years ago
@ToxicOdiousOne is Sarah Palin. Most of what comes out of him is retarded.
SethKlan 2 years ago
Homosexuality is mental disorder. In 1973 against the science, must like climate gate, sodomite gate had sodomite terrorists terrorizing the APA to claim that homosexuality was not "a serious mental disturbance". Children of homosexuals are raised gay and lesbian anarchy is encouraged as are a disrespect for law and law enforcement officials. They were never disciplined as children. We are about to let these criminals radically transform the military. They want to destroy it!
ToxicOdiousOne 2 years ago
Our country is in FLAMES and THIS is what they are doing? This is what they are concerned with? Talk about going after the low-hanging fruit in order to please their globalist masters and Leftist supporters. F- for this administration.
Iregretmostofmyposts 2 years ago
"F- for this administration"
@ lregretmostofmyposts, that's because he's black and not white, right?
jusitke07 2 years ago
@jusitke07 They are dyke enablers.
ToxicOdiousOne 2 years ago
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"They are dyke enablers"
Right, just like the Nigger lovers...
jusitke07 2 years ago
All I hear is more affirmative action policy based on now on sexual orientation. The Civil Rights Act does not cover sexual orientation.
ToxicOdiousOne 2 years ago
"The Civil Rights Act does not cover sexual orientation"
Uh, times has changed....now it does. Start progressing ToxicOdiousOne, not regressing.
jusitke07 2 years ago
@jusitke07 We don't give people special rights based on who they fuck. Anybody can claim they are gay. It's subjective and unverifiable. Next time you get fired even if you were straight you can claim they fired you because you were gay even though it's a total lie. What utter silliness. Catering to somebody's mental illness!
ToxicOdiousOne 2 years ago
So what? You're a racist Burris is wrong and it is offensive to compare negro rights to rights for sexual predators. They are not the same.
ToxicOdiousOne 2 years ago
@ ToxicOdiousOne, plus the President of the United States seems to think so...and he's black....tell me your thoughts on that.
jusitke07 2 years ago
This is so reminiscent of the whites being called "Nigga-lovers" in trying to abolish Jim Crow laws.
jusitke07 2 years ago
@jusitke07 Excuse me? Race has nothing to do with faggotry. How dare you belittle civil rights with these sexual perverts. Today it's faggots and dyke we are forced to tolerate tomorrow our military is accommodating pedophiles. How do faggots and dykes get to turn a conservative organization into a collectivist amoral moral nihilist liberal socialist communist organization over night?
ToxicOdiousOne 2 years ago
"Excuse me? Race has nothing to do with faggotry"
Really? Well Senator Roland Burris seems to think so? And he's African American.....
jusitke07 2 years ago
@jusitke07 Roland Burris is a fraud. They all are. He said what he said because the only thing you learned in school is how to put a condom on a cucumber and that whites are "mean" to blacks, and just mentioning "Civil Rights" rings the little bell in your head. Did you even watch this video?
Iregretmostofmyposts 2 years ago
"He said what he said because the only thing you learned in school is how to put a condom on a cucumber..."
...???...Where do I begin to respond that kind of comment? Highly unprofessional and illogic, plus I can read between the lines....you're racist towards blacks.
jusitke07 2 years ago
The Admiral is a fag enabler.
ToxicOdiousOne 2 years ago
and you're an ignorance enabler. Get your head out of your ass and get with the new, more accepting and compassionate world or you will be left the fuck behind.
damonandcuponoodles 2 years ago
@damonandcuponoodles Acceptance and compassion codeword empathy are irrelevant to the military. Stop telling everybody we have to be more tolerant. Should I be more tolerant of child molesters too? Should I be forced by law to tolerate every sexual paraphilia known to man against my will? America is a free country. Coercion has no place here. Stop trying to enforce diversity on those who don't want it. You are like blacks fighting to attend a Klan rally. What do you expect will happen?
ToxicOdiousOne 2 years ago
@damonandcuponoodles I'd rather be left behind then be a sheep following the amoral moral nihilist atheist who constantly attack religion and any reasonable moral limits on behavior. You can't do whatever you want without consequences. I don't want to exist in a moral vacuum where nothing has any value.
ToxicOdiousOne 2 years ago
@damonandcuponoodles "get your head out of your ass and be more compassionate"? HAHA, is that a joke? That is your problem. You think you are being a good person, but you are just advocating bad policy. Do you think you are smarter than our forefathers? You aren't, and you are going to make all of us repeat the mistakes of the past by supporting any legislation that makes you feel good.
Iregretmostofmyposts 2 years ago
@Iregretmostofmyposts George Washington would not want homosexual anarchist criminals in his civilian military.
ToxicOdiousOne 2 years ago
Why allow AIDS in the military?
ToxicOdiousOne 2 years ago
@ToxicOdiousOne who does? As far as i know, STRAIGHTS have now the most AIDS related cases. hahaha, we are in 2011 not in 1980's. hahaha
Gelli889 1 year ago
We must never let faggots and dykes in the military.
ToxicOdiousOne 2 years ago
I can't believe we are still have this talk in 2000 fucking 10. (2010)
MrDetwaa 2 years ago
Once again, the south is on the wrong side of history.
austin03tx 2 years ago
has Alabama even abolished slavery yet?
scrubjay93 2 years ago 2