more 1.2 billion citizens in israel,do you think israel are that stuped to let that much to go in to israle, that means that jews came to palestine and took it from the palesitne people
Most americans are too dumb to know that it's always been them against the whole world in regards to the United Nations General Assembly's "Peaceful Settlement of Palestine" resolution. In 1989 the vote was 153 to 3. In 2006 the vote was 157 to 7 for the "two state resolution" to bring peace. The 7 nations who voted against peace were Israel, USA, Nauru, Palu, Tuvalu, Micronesia and Marshall Islands. USA has been doing a 3-way with jews and Satan since the first world war.
In 1945-1948, the US+UK Military-Industrial Complex, fearing loss of business due to the end of WWII, amassed its war left-over material in Palestine, transported, armed, trained, and unleashed the East-European followers of a Nazi-style fanatic sect (Zionists) on the natives to conduct barbaric ethnic cleansing and slaughter. Apartheid Israel, the last remaining colonial outpost of US arms industry will soon join its ideaological cohort, Apartheid South Africa, in the trash bin of history.
No you are correct those people do not want peace, but then they are not the whole palestinian nation. I am sorry for your loss and i understand your anger, but surely it does not call for the destruction of a whole people?
WE WILL NEVER FALL BUT STAND TALL U WILL HAVE TO KILL US ALL AND I DO NOT CARE THE ARAB COUNTY ARE GROWNING WE KICK THEY ASS SO MANY TIMES IS UNREAL THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT LAND ITS ABOUT GROUP OF PEOPLE HAVING A HOME LAND UR HOME LAND TO LONG HAVE TO JEW LIVE WITH PEOPLE WHO TAKE THE PISS ALL JEW NEED TO STAND A FIGHT WE HAVE THE BEST ARMY THE BEST MINES THE BEST PEOPLE IN TH WORLD WE R GODS PEOPLE SO G-D BLESS ISRAEl
The one true God won't. The israelis are not synonymous with Jews, and as for your materialistic, oppressive, dogmatic and racist zionist of a god (notice no capitals), I SHIT ON YOUR RACIST FUCKFACE LIAR OF A FALSE GOD
p.s. PauloGVieira:
Brazil's great, you should visit sometime, take care bro.
you big joke U ARE A BIG FAT NAZI I DO NOT CARE IF U THINK I AM RACIST I DO NOT GIVE 2 FUCKS I HOPE HAMAS DIE LIKE THE SHIT THEY R I DO NOT IF ISRAEL KILL 1000 1000 1000 OF "Palastinians" I DO NOT CARE IF ISRAELS NUKE ANY ARABS COUNTY THAT DO NOT HAVE IT COMING (IRAN) I DO NOT CARE WHAT U THINK OF ZIOISTS BUT I DO CARE THE MY KIDS CAN GROW UP WERE THEY DONT LIVE IN FEAR OF BEING JEWISH AND SO DOG LIKE UR SELF CAN'T TELL US F ALL...
Bennyuk25, why dont you grow up or go and crawl back down under the rock you came from. You are just an idiot who has the writing age of a 5 year old. And your argument for israel just dont make sense. You can call me dog all you like but it just highlights how stupid and narrow-minded you are.
BUT U KEPT ON U DUMB ASS I WILL WASH MY FOOR WITH THE BLOOD OF "Palastinians" I DO NOT CARE U R A ASSHOLE U HAVE NO IDEL BUT I LOST MY BROTHER DIE IN A BOMB THAT WAS HAMAS BOMB BRAIN WASH DICKSHEAD HE WAS 16 HE DID NOT CARE ABOUT "Palastinians" OR THE LAND HE LOVE ANY AND EVRY BODY BUT THE SHIT TOOK HIM A WAY FROM US I WILL KILL THEM ALL MY SELF IF I HAVE TO BUT U COME ON SICK FUCKS
wot bull lets talk about hamas they kill and take the piss out of they own people when they fight israel they hide with kids or lets talk anout iran dont give woman right well most of arbs country and stone them to dead well nice but is israel is evil state huh? and how palestine can live long when its not real?
I really couldnt give a rats ass if you call me a moron, what makes you think that the opinion of someone that doesnt know me bother me? The fact of the matter is if you look at your argument from a point of view that isnt from the jewish/israeli side, but one from someone that is impartial, then you would se the truth. Go onto human rights websites and check for yourself.
Most of the people on here would be considered impartial, since most aren't Israeli or Palestinian. What illegal occupation are you talking about? Israel acquired lands in war, which only one people might say was started by Israel, and that was the Six Day War, and the other land they acquired from the British, after the British tried to pass it off to the Palestinians, who were in Jordan during this time, but the land was worthless, so they didn't want it. cont.
cont. The British then gave it to the Israelis, who ran irrigation and made greenhouses, which were destroyed in Gaza and the West Bank by the Palestinians when they came in, then they began screaming about having no food, wonder why, but anyway, I see no illegal occupation, the Arabs hadn't even controlled the area since around 1300 when the Turks came, but the British asked them first, since they were the last ones before the Turks, but like I stated already, the Palestinians(Arabs) refused.
human right u make me sick are u not see the ponit u go on about human right but the hamas and all arabs have no such thing of humam right so how can u go on about ISRAEL when they dond konw about right?
This is off the B'Tselem web sight, and remember chaps they are ISRAELI.
'Authorities must investigate the killing of four Palestinians defined by Israel as "wanted persons", on 12 March 2008. B'Tselem's investigation raises the suspicion that security forces executed the four in flagrant violation of a High Court ruling, which prohibits intentionally killing Palestinians taking part in hostilities when they can be arrested.' Look on the site and see the truth.
One site speaking hate about their country isn't something new, I'm willing to bet anyone can find hatred going to their own countries from their own people, a prime example would be the United States and any country in Europe. You need to find some historical facts. May God Bless You All.
But if you actually go on the website, you would find just as much comdemnation of the plaestinians. Its a very un-biased site. But not only that, just look on any human rights or charity website and you will find comdemnation of israels actions, and those of the palestinians too. Neither side is right and both need to work togehter to sort it out, not kill one another or oppress each other.
Correct, but you claimed that Israel was in occupation of something, which is incorrect, since it legally gained all land it now controls, which was acquired through the British and war. Also, for those who say war is illegal and that proves that Israel is a nazi occupation force or something else, then look at who started those wars and who fought against who, just to let you know, the only one that sided with Israel was the US, but the Soviet Union(Russia) sided with the Arabs. May God Bless U
Look I can see why Israelis believe the land you gained was legal. But under UN/International law, settling people on these lands is not legal. If you applied your logic to it then you could say that Iraq is now part of the US and UK! And as i have said before it is a matter of opionion as to whom you believe started the 6 day war, as Israel actually made a pre-emptive strike. Ergo in the rules of war was the aggressor. But it is well known the arabs were mounting forces along the borders.
phild1066, I am glad to see you know what you are talking about. The Six Day War is the only one that can be claimed to have been started by the Israelis, but like you said, it can also be stated that it was caused by Arabs. Now, what about the other wars, Yom Kippur War, Israel gained more land after being ambushed by Egypt and Syria. Also, the UN had a hand in giving the land to the Israelis. Thank you for doing your homework, my friend, and May God Bless You.
Well yes I grant you that. It was an agressive move by the arab states, but it ultimately led to Egypt recognising israel as a state, so some good can come out of a bad situation. Israel has the right to exist, but then palestine also has a right to exist and to freedom, just like isarel.
An argument against that could be that the Palestinians did decline the offer to have Palestine(Israel), which was offered by the British with a little UN dabbling. Egypt does recognize Israel, but the hatred for them is still there, just like the hatred for Egyptians is still with the Israelis.
Actually Israel did not start the Six War. On May 17, 1967 Egypt was ready to unleash its fighting tigers on Israel and demanded that the UN peacekeeping force be withdrawn. Sec. Gen. agreed which set the stage for the 6 Day War.Meanwhile sabotage, fedayeen raids, and shelling from the Golan Heights all encouraged by Syria increased and Israel finally responded after an exchange of fire, striking artillery positions that were raking Israel. Cont'd
Then an air battle ensued and Syria ran to Egypt to aid in their conflict with the Israelis. Egypt responded by massing troops and tanks in Sinai near the Israeli border and was ready to strike. Egypt imposed a blockade first in the Gulf of Akaba and then in the Suez Canal. They knew full well that Israel had repeatedly warned that blocking these straits would be tantamount to a declaration of war. Cont'd
Syria, Jordan, and Lebanon chimed in on Nassers side and the Soviet Union provided all the weapons. Israel knew that she could not allow a war to be fought on her soil and since all of her cities were within bombing range. So on June 5, 1967 Israel struck and won a decided victory.
Are you all stupid? All your arguments that you are posting, 'israels land was formally obtained', 'Israel almost always attacks legitimate targets' etc, i have already disproved. Research carried out even by israeli groups (B'Tselem) found the last not to be true! The UN say it is illegal, it is illegal.And no where in the holy Qur'an does it say to kill innocent, nor in the Gospels. So its your hatered again that shows through.
Im not denying the israeli right to exist just illegal occupation
this is what a Palastinian man told whaen I asked him why are the phalastinian sending suicide bombers into innocent civilians to kill as many as possible.
I have one question for everyone to contemplate. Why don't any of the Palestinians so-called allies(Iran, Egypt, etc.) send aid to the Palestinians. We all know that Egypt recently had the chance, but they closed their border pretty quickly. I love the amount of kindness and tolerance that overflows from Israel, supplying their enemy that fires rockets and uses suicide bombers against them. I'm sure any other country would have wiped the Palestinians out. May God Bless You All.
becuse they just use Palestine to fight with israel there rather have them get gun and bomb than food phild1066 would have u think that is Zionist jews and the super power stop the food....
food why is it up to us to why dont iran of sum arabs state they give them guns quicky and ied to blow up toops ur pro nazi properganda make me sick u need to wake up they WANT US IN SEA GONE AND WE WILL NOT STAND THERE AND LET IT HAPPEN but u keep side with mad mans but when they blown a uk bus you can sit there and say its all good
I didnt say anything of the kind. And i do support womens rights, and the rights of all human being to be equal, including palestinians. This isnt about the annhilation of israel, its about the dismantling of aparthied in palestine. Your comment proves your racist attitude, an attitude that prolongs this conflict. You call them no more than dogs, and israel treats them like dogs. You disgust me. FREE PALESTINE
Free Palestine from who? The rightful owners control it now. Nowhere in history have the Palestinian people ruled Palestine. The closest one might say would be when Omar took it in 638AD, but they were Arabs and held it until around 1300 or 1400, when the Turks took it, then of course they fell to the British, then the British tried to give it to the Palestinians, who were in Jordan by the way, but they refused it, so they gave it to the Jews, who re-founded Israel.
My grandfather fought during the second world war in a country called PALESTINE. And if you want to split hairs, 3000 years ago, the israelites took the land off the caananites, so your claim is as frail as the palestinians'.
phild1066, the area is known as Palestine and has been for a while(around 2,000 years). In WWII, when Germany took France I'm willing to wager that the people still called it France, since the area has been known as that for a long time. I don't know what claim you think is false? Omar is correct, Israel controls Palestine, correct, Palestinians have never controled Palestine, correct, everything I said is historically correct, my friend.
Im not going to get into arguing about that, the fact is the palestinians have lived there for hundreds of years and it is their homeland, aswell as the jews homeland. The thing that would move a whole step towards peace is if israel went back to the borders designated to them by the international community in 1947. If that happened im pretty sure palestine and most arab countries would recognise israel. Oh and likening your occupation to that of nazi germany in france isnt too clever.
The land Israel has obtained since its formation was all legally obtained, since it was done during war times and the only land it took was from its enemies, Egypt and Syria. That's what happens in war and to ask someone to give the land back is complete nonsense, especially when you consider the fact that Israel was attacked first in these wars.
no u disgust me ur view is a lie they is no such thing of palestine u can free sumthing thats is not real. israel is the only country to have offered a state to palestinians but they to busy blown them self up and shotting dead kids so we have try but u cant teach old DOGS new ticks so we have to bliuld walls have cheack ponts and all that stuff becuse they cant be tusted and you would not let a wild dog need ur town g-d bless israel
Nothing i have said is remotely racist or anti-israeli, you on the other hand have proven yourself a racist. And my grandfather fought the nazis for freedom for all humanity, not just the jews.
So what? what is your point? that israel has more money to spend on education thatn any other arab stste? tell me something we dont know! And what i posted was not lies, if anyone doesnt believe me check out the sources i gave. Aid organisations and impartial observers dont lie for properganda purposes. You believe what you do because of your vested interest in the status quo. And the claim that the land is your because of the Torah again does not hold water. The christian bible includes this.
the piont of this is you sit there saying about israel human rights but the people who fund and suports the palestinians take the piss out of the own people so u cant say f all about israel. why dont u support woman right in places huh? why do side with people no more than dogs they did f all with the land and is not just torah that say the land is urs the history book do maybe u should stop look up ur own ass for facts u cry about the poor palestinians that israel dont give them water or
FACTS in israel whether jewish muslim or christan can criticise the israeli goverment and its leaders no citizen of any other mid eastern or muslim state can do the same without fear of imprisonment or death nor can palestinians openly criticise their leaders without fear of reprisal
u keep on sicking up for people dont give woman rights and stone them because they not have they heads covered or the teacher who name the teddy bear muhammad she was lucky several months before constructon worker arthur fish met a far worse fate he was helping to build a sudanese hospital ahe had gotten together with co-workers and formed jazz band named muhammed and the all star jazz players their first performance at a popular sudanese jazz club
AND IT WAS RAIDED AND ALL MEMBERS OF THE BAND HAD THEIR HEADS CUT OFF AND THESE ARE THE SAME PEOPLE IN IRAN AND ALL OR THE COUNTY THE ARE AROUND ISRAEL SO U KEEP ON FIGHTTING 4 SICK MINED PEOPLE AND WHEN THEY BLOWN MORE BUS AND KILL MORE KIDS YOU CAN SIT THEY AND SAY ITS OK THEY FREEDOM FIGHTERs
Suicide bombing is a reprehensible and unacceptable tactic. These attacks should stop immediately. What needs to be added, and what is almost always missing in American media commentary is a similar condemnation of Israel's deliberate targeting of Palestinian civilians.
Since the Palestinian uprising started in late September 2000, more than 1,500 Palestinians, and 400 Israelis have been killed (as of April 12, 2002), the vast majority on both sides being unarmed civilians. Most of the deadly violence against innocent civilians, therefore, has been committed by Israeli forces and has been directed at Palestinians.
Israel and its supporters claim that while Palestinian suicide bombers deliberately target Israeli civilians, Israel tries to avoid harming Palestinian civilians and that those who have died are "collateral damage." Hence, they argue, there is no moral equivalence between the killing of civilians by Israel and Palestinians. This defies both common sense and all the available evidence.
On the one hand, Israel wants us to believe that 400 of its own civilians were deliberately targeted, while more than three times as many dead Palestinians all somehow just got in the way of what Israel claims is its humane and disciplined army. It is, in essence, an argument that 1,500 people all died by accident.
Every human rights group that has examined Israel's practices has documented systematic and deliberate use of violence targeted at unarmed Palestinian civilians by Israeli forces. Physicians for Human Rights USA which investigated the high number of Palestinian deaths and injuries in the first months of the Intifada, concluded that:
"the pattern of injuries seen in many victims did not reflect IDF [Israel Defense Forces] use of firearms in life-threatening situations but rather indicated targeting solely for the purpose of wounding or killing."
This finding was based on "the totality of the evidence" the investigators collected about:
"the high number of gunshots to the head; the volume of serious, disabling thigh injuries; the inappropriate firing of rubber bullets and rubber-coated steel bullets at close range; and the high proportion of Palestinian injuries and deaths."
Seized Palestinian land has been used to build Jewish-only settlements linked by a network of Jewish-only roads, in flagrant violation of UN Security Council Resolutions and the Fourth Geneva Convention. This colonization is, and can only be, carried out by the violent suppression of any and all Palestinian resistance to the occupation.
Throughout the years of the "peace process" during the 1990s, Israel continued to construct settlements, doubling the number of settlers in the West Bank from about 100,000 to 200,000 according to the Israeli group "Peace Now." At least 34 new settlements have been built since Sharon took office.
good i hope there kept one 4 me i think i buy 1 becuse it is my right the land is urs they is no such thing as Palestine it lie ur a joke wake up mate and stop dreaming
good i hope there kept one 4 me i think i buy 1 becuse it is my right the land is urs they is no such thing as Palestine it lie ur a joke wake up mate and stop dreaming
The entire international community has recognized that Israel's military occupation must end, and that its continuation, along with the settlement policy, and the massive repression they entail is a guarantee of continued bloodshed. Israel's brutal actions in the occupied territories are designed to consolidate and entrench the occupation and expand Israeli colonization, and are therefore, by definition, not defensive in nature.
The Israeli claim that its attacks on the Palestinians constitute "self defense" ignores the fact that its posture in East Jerusalem, the West Bank and Gaza Strip is, by definition, not defensive. Since 1967, Israel has maintained tens of thousands of heavily armed troops outside its borders for the purposes of stealing land from the Palestinians and forcing them to live as non-citizens under a foreign military dictatorship.
In making the moral superiority claim, Israel's apologists are either shamelessly denying the irrefutable evidence and are simply lying, or they are asserting that some forms of murder are morally superior to other forms of murder.
There can be no doubt that Israeli troops have been targeting innocent Palestinian civilians for death from the beginning of the uprising. This understanding was also reflected in UN Security Council Resolution 1322, passed on October 7, 2000, which
"Condemns acts of violence, especially the excessive use of force against Palestinians, resulting in injury and loss of human life."
no no no no wat lies the idf DON'T TARGET INNOCENT PEOPLE THATS A LIE INNOCENT GET KILL BECUSE HAMAS FIGHT GO IN HOME SHOOTS AT IDF THAN THEY HIDE IN ROOMS WITH KIDS SO ITS HAMAS WHO KILLS INNOCENTS PEOPELE THE IDF DO NOT GO IN SCHOOL AND SHOOT DEAD KIDS OR FIRE ROCKETS AT HOME WERE THEYS NO FIGHTERS HAMAS DO GET UR FACTS RIGHT......
What has been confirmed by human rights groups has also been observed directly by journalists.
In October 2001, Harper's magazine published the "Gaza Diary" of journalist Chris Hedges. Hedges' entry for June 17, 2001 provides even more shocking evidence of the wanton and deliberate killing of Palestinian children by Israeli soldiers at Gaza's Khan Yunis refugee camp.
well said i cant believe theres fools. they stand up 4 people who blown them self up its like giving the 7/7 bomer part of london its a joke they was no PALESTINE its is a frand but this fool cant see it
Well thats where you are wrong sonny, people DO care, thats why thousands of people attend every pro-palestinian rally held in the UK alone. The tide is slowly starting to turn and the world is not being kept in the dark by the israeli and US control of media. Thanks to the work of the BBC and other reputable organisations. And people like you will be exposed for the racist you are.
And the Facts that you say may be fantasies are sourced from 'reuters, Amnesty international, the israeli human right watch B'Tselem' and other highly regarded organisations. So those FACTS actually are FACTS!!!!
I noticed how no pro-israeli had any response to all the FACTS i posted a few comments earlier. It is clear to people how israel is an oppressive state. Just look at the FACTS. I will say again, palestine has the worlds LARGEST refugee population!!!! Israel has no more right to the land than the Brits do to india. And in response to all that crap posted about democratic government, please stop posting stuff from wikipedia, you dont know what your talking about evidently.
Look how the pro-israelis resort to childish insults as a way to get a rise from people on hear. Your arguments do not hold water and are badly put across so you say something like 'Billabong96' just has. How pathetic.
Both groups are an organic resistance from refugee camps and the village up - you seem to think they're some kind of national army.
There is no difference between your language and tactics and those of the Nazi's in Warsaw! Thanks to people like you the correlation between Nazi Germany and Israel today is increasingly clear.
Again moron, the people democratic party is a political group. by definition it cannot be a democracy as a few people make the decisions for every one. For China or any other nation to be a democracy the people must have direct influance on the decision make process. Democracy means rule by the people as in the people rule not a small group that makes the decision for them.
Look it up.
dude the rest of that comment is retarded. Stop pretending.
All those comments you have just posted are so widely open to individual interpretation, as much so as the Torah and the gospels. They are NOT proof of hatred and intolerance.
I agree killings are proof of hatred from that INDIVIDUAL, what you are doing is trying to prove a hatred from a whole religion! Not some individuals that practice that religion.
Also it is by no means only islamic motivated killings that happen.Look at Yitzak Rabin. Murdered by a zionist jew!
What? you need to ask where the hatred comes from? It comes from the opression the palestinians suffer under israeli occupation! If it comes from the holy Qur'an why do Christians hate the israeli regime just as much as the muslims? Your logic is totally flawed by YOUR own obvious dislike for muslims.
Christians are for the most part very supportive of Israel and so is the secular world and governments. The only ones you will see on the constant attack of condemnation is league of Arab Muslim nations who really should care less under all logic being that it has nothing to do with them, but in reality have much to do with them because of Islam.
Well I would say if a military might completed oppressed your human dignity, freedom, identity, and self-determination I think it is fair to assume a sense of hatred for that very entity.
Please correct me if I am wrong but is this not the very basics of human nature?
If Israel were concerned about its own safety and security it would have reinforced its international borders! What happened was that it settled its citizens in disputed land and effectively put them in the middle of a war zone! Its colonising Palestine!
torah says the land was give the us bye god so the should jog on go home stop hating jew and they 1 jewish state go back to they holes and they goats the jew will not give it back its taken 6m jewish people to get r land back israel is the land of the jew it not just in the torah its FACT it r land and no will take it
I dont hate jews in the slightest, there are many jews that think the actions of the israeli government is wrong. The people that arrested the woman for naming her teddy bear mohammed and those who stone women in afganistan etc, they are not the SAME people that i believe are being wronged. The palestinian people are not all muslim, many christians are palestinian. This has nothing to do with religion from my point but basic human rights.
torah says the land was give the us bye god so the should jog on go home stop hating jew and they 1 jewish state go back to they holes and they goats the jew will not give it back its taken 6m jewish people to get r land back israel is the land of the jew it not just in the torah its FACT it r land and no will take it
9:107 And as for those who chose a place of worship out of opposition and disbelief, and in order to cause dissent among the believers, and as an outpost for those who warred against Allah and His messenger aforetime, they will surely swear: We purposed naught save good. Allah beareth witness that they verily are liars.
5:33 The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom;
9:111 Lo! Allah hath bought from the believers their lives and their wealth because the Garden will be theirs: they shall fight in the way of Allah and shall slay and be slain. It is a promise which is binding on Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur'an. Who fulfilleth His covenant better than Allah ? Rejoice then in your bargain that ye have made, for that is the supreme triumph.
8:17 Ye (Muslims) slew them not, but Allah slew them. And thou (Muhammad) threwest not when thou didst throw, but Allah threw, that He might test the believers by a fair test from Him. Lo! Allah is Hearer, Knower.
4:89 They long that ye should disbelieve even as they disbelieve, that ye may be upon a level (with them). So choose not friends from them till they forsake their homes in the way of Allah; if they turn back (to enmity) then take them and kill them wherever ye find them, and choose no friend nor helper from among them,
And one more thing in relation to a comment made by zz2847. 'BUT THE ARABS HATE THE JEW' Palestine has a huge christian population, i know that to be an arab and a christian are not always separate, but the christian palestinians are treated as abominably as the muslim palestinians. some arabs may hate jews, but alot of jews hate anyone that is not jewish and the hate is not reserved solely for arabs either.
Exactly! What no one mentions is that after Lebanon Palestine has the biggest proportion of Christians! What no one also mentions is that within the Hamas Govt. is a number of high-profile Christians.
Before the state of Israel a Palestinian was Jewish, Christian or Muslim.
And what you failed to mention is that the Muslim Palestinians are killing these Christian Palestinians in their own land and abroad.
Your painted picture of Utopia could not be further from the reality of the situation. Islam's goal is to extinguish the "apes and pigs" of other religions. It says this in the Koran. Islam is not about tolerance. Open your eyes to the truth man!
WRONG! Do not tell me what is happening in Palestine - you dont know who you are talking to! Bethlehem is the only city in the world that I have seen where Muslims and Christians head to the Church of the Nativity together for Christmas!! Even Hamas was there! Do not profess to tell me they are at war with each other!
You open your eyes to the truth! You claim the Koran is all about ethnic cleansing but it is Israel that is doing all of this!
These are some actual FACTS from Reuters and fortune magazine. Plestinian number plates in israel are colour coded to identify jews and non-jews, FACT. The US gives 5 BILLION dollars in aid to israel each year, FACT. This aid amounts to more than the aid given by the US to the whole of the african continent, FACT. The palestinian refugee population makes up the largest portion of refugees in the world, FACT. Today isral sits on the site of more than 400 vanished palestinian villages, FACT.
Israel stands in violation of 69 UN securtiy council resolutions, FACT. Non-jewish israelis cannot buy or lease land in israel, FACT. In hebron 85% of the water is shared between 400 israelis whilst 15% has to be divided between 120,000 people, FACT.
Theses are all telling fFACTS my friends, from reputable sources. They point to a blatant disregard for basic human rights and to opression and division. I dont advocate violence as a means for palestine get freedom but this is just wrong.
but all i see is hate and that why i stand he fight 4 more home county so how u can and say its all isreal is WRONG anit isreal thing going on r wrong and its all like hitter back in pre was germay and when u have ass hole like iran were woman have no right and the press is contolled welll good freedom so u all keep on hating israel and we will keep on fight becuse we r god people g-d bless israel
but all i see is hate and that why i stand he fight 4 more home county so how u can and say its all isreal is WRONG anit isreal thing going on r wrong and its all like hitter back in pre was germay and when u have ass hole like iran were woman have no right and the press is contolled welll good freedom so u all keep on hating israel and we will keep on fight becuse we r god people g-d bless israel
THE REAL REASON WHY WE CAN'T HAVE PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
The Koran
5:51 O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk.
You taking a passage from the Koran completely out of context is the reason we cant have peace! I am not a Muslim by any means, I love bacon and drink too much wine, but I know that this passage refers to Mohammed's troubles with the people of those faiths in Medina.
You conveniently ignore the constant references in the Koran to 'people of the book' - Jews, Christians and Muslims who have an esteemed position together in the eyes of god.
It is not at all out of context, there are so many lines in the Koran that teach to hate (and even kill) the Jews and Christians because they are "disbelievers". Mohamed himself went around on "Holy" crusades killing Jews because they did not believe what he said and thought he was a madman. This is the perfect example set forth for the followers and is exactly why we see so much violence, hate and intolerance and disrespect from Islam around the world.
You completely ignore the very basic fact of the Koran - that promotes the people of the book, Muslims, Christians and Jews, to the esteemed level before the eyes of god.
I would not even dare go through the Torah and post out-of-context remarks about it out of respect. Despite this there are many rabbis that point to the Torah to justify the cleaning of Christians and Muslims from the land Israel wants. Now you tell me why they are ok to do this and its evil when Islam does it?
i would love to see pace but u all forget that the land the israel "HAVE STOLEN" was taken when we were fight in the 6 day war it was when 6 cuonty start on us becsue they got they ass kick then they cry becsaue they loss and isreal taken land wich most of it was nicly giving back.....
u should all look at my page and u would see that i am a pot smoking hippy who blevid in 1 love and 1 people but as a young man i just see hate and more hate both side have blood on they hands BUT THE ARABS HATE THE JEW i have them in my home town shout off they big mouths about jew and Israel and
i am only 20 and i live in the uk but u can call me a Zionism becsue i blevie that the jew should have they own land i do think sum thing that israel r wrong BUT u can dont run in schools and shoot diead kids and frie rocket at my family they have had over 900 rocktes fired at them so u can not stand there and say look at we are doing becsue they do just as bad thing if not wost stuff going and shoot dead kids is sickand they r
You are a disgusting being - tell me your desire for the Palestinians to be wiped out is any different from the Nazi's desire to rid the world of Jews.
Well fellahs, you've all been great to talk to (even the stubborn ones), but I gotta go board a flight to Brazil at 10pm tonight - first time I've been there in 10 years! and I haven't even packet yet (it's 3pm here in Toronto). I'll be back soon to check up on you ladies and gentlemen.
Have a great trip, i wish the UK had footy players like brazil! Come back soon so there is someone else that will fight my corner! Im off to watch arsenal vs liverpool now.
Yes some palestinians attack and kill innocent israelis, some believe violence will solve the problem, but israel attack and kill hundreds of palestinians evry time, the destroy muslim holy places, schools etc. The palestinians have a right to be free in their own countrie, not have it occupied and settled by invaders. and dont go on about that shite that 'god gave it to us' because that is just obserd.
What about all the Palestinians living in Lebanon and Jordan? I don't see those countries making as generous an offer as Israel has to create a Palestine.
The ethic Palestinians aren't indigenous to the land of Israel but rather the encompassing area including those controlled by Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon. Those countries should give up land for them and create a FREE PALESTINE. But no, the only qualm they have is with non-Islamic states and especially those respecting Jews and Christians.
It even says in the Koran to not seek friendship with them. I wonder what the alternative to friendship is?
5:51 O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk.
What has that got to do with anything? Babylon was a nation 3000 years ago, sumeria, the mayan civilsation was a nation thousands of years ago. I ask again what hgas it got to do with this discussion?
Idiot - sure lets bring back the nation-states of the bible. I have always wanted to see the Hanging Gardens of Babylon again and always had such a fascination with Pharaonic Egypt.
To all whom would find it hard to believe that a Jew can be against the Zionist illegal state of Israel, watch these videos and OPEN YOUR EYES!! You will see ORTHODOX JEWS (which I am not) protesting against the fascist state of Israel. Read their signs and listen to their words, and you will understand how Zionism is vile and has co-opted Judaism for it's own purposes, but they are not the same thing!! If you read your history you will find that the founder of modern Zionism isn't even Jewish!!
If you're the type that is too stubborn and ignorant to even so much as peruse these videos for fear that it might upset your world-view than please don't direct your posts at me, I'm looking for honest debate, not to argue with western zealots and fanatics who have a "know-it-all" attitude and a false sense of intellectual superiority...you know who you are
No I believe it. Just as some Palestinians are pro Israel, and some Americans are anti-American. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not every opinion is based on understanding and respect.
I sense that we can at least agree to disagree, whereas others who will go unmentioned only level insults at me and others in this forum.
I respect all peoples, all races and all cultures; and what I seek from them is a deeper understanding of the Universe. However, I despise, all those who wish to use as pawns the free peoples of the world in order to further their own selfish interests: Zionism, Western capitalist imperialism, Islamofascism, are but a few examples of what I HATE!
Absolutely, i think at least there is one intelligent person commenting. I agree with your whole comment, and only wish others could be as open minded as you are.
I find it strange that an American Christian such as yourself would be a proponent of Mei Kahane. He was - aside from a racist Zionist - a proponent of a Jewish Theocracy! That is diametrically opposed to democratic American values. Furthermore,his theocratic views were much akin to what you call Islamofascism, where gov't law is circumvented by the Torah and Talmud (or the Qu'ran in Islamofascist's case). And a ZIONIST THEOCRACY would be tantamount to the coming of the antichrist
ALL OF U R SICK IN THE HEAD BAD TALKING ZIONIST WELL FUCK U ALL U WILL NOT STOP ISRAEL GETTING BACK THE LAND WE HAT TO GO FROM ALL THEM YEARS AGO SO WE HAVE NOT STLONE FUCK ALL AND IF THE ARABS nationS R UP SETUP WHY DONT THE GIVE SUM R THE 1000 1000 MILE OF SAND THEY ALL HAVE STOP HATING ISRAEL WE LOOK OUT 4 #1 BECUSE NO1 LOOKS OUT FOR US AND THERE LOTS OF Muslims NATIONS BUT 1 JEWISH SO WANT U ALL R SAYING THE JEWISH SHOULD NOT HAVE A COUNTY FOR THM SELF G-D BLESS ISRAEL...
Moron. Notice how it sais democratic not the democracy of china. China is a republic and the democratic indicates that they want people to believe that regular chines have influence over the govt. Do some research moron. Democracy and Republic are two different political systems.
Yes many arab nations require Jews to pay additional taxes. "Why not a Palestinian tax and charge..." Because we are not animals.
To PaouloGVieira, I raise my hat for u my friend, you are 100% right, and there is no such a thing called Israel, it is the occupied palestine, but whatever goes up will go down, and it is starting to go down
the zionists are no better than the nazis. and their propaganda machine is far better
zobielamouche1 9 months ago
more 1.2 billion citizens in israel,do you think israel are that stuped to let that much to go in to israle, that means that jews came to palestine and took it from the palesitne people
MegaLebanon100 9 months ago
palestinan set of mind and arab set of mind of hate is the biggest problem .
set of mind to murder , 65 years pof terrorism in any mean help and supported by united nation ,
united nation id terroism murder organzation ,
the best example is palestinan murder terrorist with flotilla ,
coming to murder israeli supporated by muslim terrorist
united nation probe and attack israel . united nation is murder . help palestinan murder ,
yes murder palestinan
greenfeld meir
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The West bank is Israeli and will always be Israeli!!! The west bank is the most important part of Israel!
bloodwiper 1 year ago
ISRAEL are SQUATTERS lving on USA WELFARE in PALESTINE
TARASTWO2 2 years ago 3
Most americans are too dumb to know that it's always been them against the whole world in regards to the United Nations General Assembly's "Peaceful Settlement of Palestine" resolution. In 1989 the vote was 153 to 3. In 2006 the vote was 157 to 7 for the "two state resolution" to bring peace. The 7 nations who voted against peace were Israel, USA, Nauru, Palu, Tuvalu, Micronesia and Marshall Islands. USA has been doing a 3-way with jews and Satan since the first world war.
TheCamperz 2 years ago 5
In 1945-1948, the US+UK Military-Industrial Complex, fearing loss of business due to the end of WWII, amassed its war left-over material in Palestine, transported, armed, trained, and unleashed the East-European followers of a Nazi-style fanatic sect (Zionists) on the natives to conduct barbaric ethnic cleansing and slaughter. Apartheid Israel, the last remaining colonial outpost of US arms industry will soon join its ideaological cohort, Apartheid South Africa, in the trash bin of history.
4aaaaa4 2 years ago
Stop teaching religion (and all that shitty superstitions) and these wars will end.
filippopeli 3 years ago 3
fuck the arabs
StephaneGrappelli 3 years ago
fuck you bitch!! and fuck all israeli nation! the offspring of apse & pigs
observ2do 3 years ago
I am alway wondering why all the terror leasds Mohammed?...
StephaneGrappelli 3 years ago
I prefer to just ignore both.
flukeskydiver 3 years ago
"Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation's fury," - Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (Iranian President)
"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it" - Imam Hassan al-Banna
"[Hamas] will not change a single word in its covenant [which is calling for the destruction of Israel]."
- Mahmoud Zahar, Hamas leader
How can anyone believe these people want peace?
bennyuk25 3 years ago
No you are correct those people do not want peace, but then they are not the whole palestinian nation. I am sorry for your loss and i understand your anger, but surely it does not call for the destruction of a whole people?
phild1066 3 years ago
no it does not i sure they r sum that r nice peple i just want peace we need to stop all wars and get together as 1 people one love
bennyuk25 3 years ago
good neighbors put up fences not blow them up
expurb 3 years ago
WE WILL NEVER FALL BUT STAND TALL U WILL HAVE TO KILL US ALL AND I DO NOT CARE THE ARAB COUNTY ARE GROWNING WE KICK THEY ASS SO MANY TIMES IS UNREAL THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT LAND ITS ABOUT GROUP OF PEOPLE HAVING A HOME LAND UR HOME LAND TO LONG HAVE TO JEW LIVE WITH PEOPLE WHO TAKE THE PISS ALL JEW NEED TO STAND A FIGHT WE HAVE THE BEST ARMY THE BEST MINES THE BEST PEOPLE IN TH WORLD WE R GODS PEOPLE SO G-D BLESS ISRAEl
bennyuk25 3 years ago
bennyuk25
"G-D BLESS ISRAEl "
The one true God won't. The israelis are not synonymous with Jews, and as for your materialistic, oppressive, dogmatic and racist zionist of a god (notice no capitals), I SHIT ON YOUR RACIST FUCKFACE LIAR OF A FALSE GOD
p.s. PauloGVieira:
Brazil's great, you should visit sometime, take care bro.
NegligentYouth 3 years ago
you big joke U ARE A BIG FAT NAZI I DO NOT CARE IF U THINK I AM RACIST I DO NOT GIVE 2 FUCKS I HOPE HAMAS DIE LIKE THE SHIT THEY R I DO NOT IF ISRAEL KILL 1000 1000 1000 OF "Palastinians" I DO NOT CARE IF ISRAELS NUKE ANY ARABS COUNTY THAT DO NOT HAVE IT COMING (IRAN) I DO NOT CARE WHAT U THINK OF ZIOISTS BUT I DO CARE THE MY KIDS CAN GROW UP WERE THEY DONT LIVE IN FEAR OF BEING JEWISH AND SO DOG LIKE UR SELF CAN'T TELL US F ALL...
bennyuk25 3 years ago
Bennyuk25, why dont you grow up or go and crawl back down under the rock you came from. You are just an idiot who has the writing age of a 5 year old. And your argument for israel just dont make sense. You can call me dog all you like but it just highlights how stupid and narrow-minded you are.
phild1066 3 years ago
u need to wake up just becuse sum one cant spell does not mean f all and i am narrow-minded u need to look at ur self
bennyuk25 3 years ago
MY ROCKS A BIG FAT HOUSE IN ISRAEL AND THE UK
BUT U KEPT ON U DUMB ASS I WILL WASH MY FOOR WITH THE BLOOD OF "Palastinians" I DO NOT CARE U R A ASSHOLE U HAVE NO IDEL BUT I LOST MY BROTHER DIE IN A BOMB THAT WAS HAMAS BOMB BRAIN WASH DICKSHEAD HE WAS 16 HE DID NOT CARE ABOUT "Palastinians" OR THE LAND HE LOVE ANY AND EVRY BODY BUT THE SHIT TOOK HIM A WAY FROM US I WILL KILL THEM ALL MY SELF IF I HAVE TO BUT U COME ON SICK FUCKS
bennyuk25 3 years ago
good luck!
thanks for your comment
StephaneGrappelli 3 years ago
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what a bitch she is!!!!!!!!!!!
spritualiti18 3 years ago
israel is the only true democracy in the middle east and the only country that has virtually unlimited freedom of speech
bennyuk25 3 years ago
hhaaaahaaaaaa, this is nice joke
you aren´t mor than occupation state!!
LONG LIVE PALESTINE!!!!
no body know the ugly zionist face from the world!!! no body
the people believe only what they watch in media wich controlled by kriminal zionists
palestine4eever 3 years ago
wot bull lets talk about hamas they kill and take the piss out of they own people when they fight israel they hide with kids or lets talk anout iran dont give woman right well most of arbs country and stone them to dead well nice but is israel is evil state huh? and how palestine can live long when its not real?
bennyuk25 3 years ago
I really couldnt give a rats ass if you call me a moron, what makes you think that the opinion of someone that doesnt know me bother me? The fact of the matter is if you look at your argument from a point of view that isnt from the jewish/israeli side, but one from someone that is impartial, then you would se the truth. Go onto human rights websites and check for yourself.
phild1066 3 years ago
Most of the people on here would be considered impartial, since most aren't Israeli or Palestinian. What illegal occupation are you talking about? Israel acquired lands in war, which only one people might say was started by Israel, and that was the Six Day War, and the other land they acquired from the British, after the British tried to pass it off to the Palestinians, who were in Jordan during this time, but the land was worthless, so they didn't want it. cont.
zhaozhilong01 3 years ago
cont. The British then gave it to the Israelis, who ran irrigation and made greenhouses, which were destroyed in Gaza and the West Bank by the Palestinians when they came in, then they began screaming about having no food, wonder why, but anyway, I see no illegal occupation, the Arabs hadn't even controlled the area since around 1300 when the Turks came, but the British asked them first, since they were the last ones before the Turks, but like I stated already, the Palestinians(Arabs) refused.
zhaozhilong01 3 years ago
human right u make me sick are u not see the ponit u go on about human right but the hamas and all arabs have no such thing of humam right so how can u go on about ISRAEL when they dond konw about right?
bennyuk25 3 years ago
This is off the B'Tselem web sight, and remember chaps they are ISRAELI.
'Authorities must investigate the killing of four Palestinians defined by Israel as "wanted persons", on 12 March 2008. B'Tselem's investigation raises the suspicion that security forces executed the four in flagrant violation of a High Court ruling, which prohibits intentionally killing Palestinians taking part in hostilities when they can be arrested.' Look on the site and see the truth.
phild1066 3 years ago
One site speaking hate about their country isn't something new, I'm willing to bet anyone can find hatred going to their own countries from their own people, a prime example would be the United States and any country in Europe. You need to find some historical facts. May God Bless You All.
zhaozhilong01 3 years ago
But if you actually go on the website, you would find just as much comdemnation of the plaestinians. Its a very un-biased site. But not only that, just look on any human rights or charity website and you will find comdemnation of israels actions, and those of the palestinians too. Neither side is right and both need to work togehter to sort it out, not kill one another or oppress each other.
phild1066 3 years ago
Correct, but you claimed that Israel was in occupation of something, which is incorrect, since it legally gained all land it now controls, which was acquired through the British and war. Also, for those who say war is illegal and that proves that Israel is a nazi occupation force or something else, then look at who started those wars and who fought against who, just to let you know, the only one that sided with Israel was the US, but the Soviet Union(Russia) sided with the Arabs. May God Bless U
zhaozhilong01 3 years ago
Look I can see why Israelis believe the land you gained was legal. But under UN/International law, settling people on these lands is not legal. If you applied your logic to it then you could say that Iraq is now part of the US and UK! And as i have said before it is a matter of opionion as to whom you believe started the 6 day war, as Israel actually made a pre-emptive strike. Ergo in the rules of war was the aggressor. But it is well known the arabs were mounting forces along the borders.
phild1066 3 years ago
phild1066, I am glad to see you know what you are talking about. The Six Day War is the only one that can be claimed to have been started by the Israelis, but like you said, it can also be stated that it was caused by Arabs. Now, what about the other wars, Yom Kippur War, Israel gained more land after being ambushed by Egypt and Syria. Also, the UN had a hand in giving the land to the Israelis. Thank you for doing your homework, my friend, and May God Bless You.
zhaozhilong01 3 years ago
Well yes I grant you that. It was an agressive move by the arab states, but it ultimately led to Egypt recognising israel as a state, so some good can come out of a bad situation. Israel has the right to exist, but then palestine also has a right to exist and to freedom, just like isarel.
phild1066 3 years ago
An argument against that could be that the Palestinians did decline the offer to have Palestine(Israel), which was offered by the British with a little UN dabbling. Egypt does recognize Israel, but the hatred for them is still there, just like the hatred for Egyptians is still with the Israelis.
zhaozhilong01 3 years ago
Actually Israel did not start the Six War. On May 17, 1967 Egypt was ready to unleash its fighting tigers on Israel and demanded that the UN peacekeeping force be withdrawn. Sec. Gen. agreed which set the stage for the 6 Day War.Meanwhile sabotage, fedayeen raids, and shelling from the Golan Heights all encouraged by Syria increased and Israel finally responded after an exchange of fire, striking artillery positions that were raking Israel. Cont'd
JerrySPsy 3 years ago
Then an air battle ensued and Syria ran to Egypt to aid in their conflict with the Israelis. Egypt responded by massing troops and tanks in Sinai near the Israeli border and was ready to strike. Egypt imposed a blockade first in the Gulf of Akaba and then in the Suez Canal. They knew full well that Israel had repeatedly warned that blocking these straits would be tantamount to a declaration of war. Cont'd
JerrySPsy 3 years ago
Syria, Jordan, and Lebanon chimed in on Nassers side and the Soviet Union provided all the weapons. Israel knew that she could not allow a war to be fought on her soil and since all of her cities were within bombing range. So on June 5, 1967 Israel struck and won a decided victory.
JerrySPsy 3 years ago
Are you all stupid? All your arguments that you are posting, 'israels land was formally obtained', 'Israel almost always attacks legitimate targets' etc, i have already disproved. Research carried out even by israeli groups (B'Tselem) found the last not to be true! The UN say it is illegal, it is illegal.And no where in the holy Qur'an does it say to kill innocent, nor in the Gospels. So its your hatered again that shows through.
Im not denying the israeli right to exist just illegal occupation
phild1066 3 years ago
it can not illegal occupation sum thing thats a real
bennyuk25 3 years ago
fuck your parents who raised you to hate and kill in name of Mohammed and Quran
StephaneGrappelli 3 years ago
I shit on the Quran.
minnesotaviking22302 3 years ago
the Quran says to kill innocent people
this is what a Palastinian man told whaen I asked him why are the phalastinian sending suicide bombers into innocent civilians to kill as many as possible.
StephaneGrappelli 3 years ago
I have one question for everyone to contemplate. Why don't any of the Palestinians so-called allies(Iran, Egypt, etc.) send aid to the Palestinians. We all know that Egypt recently had the chance, but they closed their border pretty quickly. I love the amount of kindness and tolerance that overflows from Israel, supplying their enemy that fires rockets and uses suicide bombers against them. I'm sure any other country would have wiped the Palestinians out. May God Bless You All.
zhaozhilong01 3 years ago 2
becuse they just use Palestine to fight with israel there rather have them get gun and bomb than food phild1066 would have u think that is Zionist jews and the super power stop the food....
bennyuk25 3 years ago
You are correct the palestinians are not a separte race, they are also semitic.
phild1066 3 years ago
G-D BLESS ISRAEL
bennyuk25 3 years ago
food why is it up to us to why dont iran of sum arabs state they give them guns quicky and ied to blow up toops ur pro nazi properganda make me sick u need to wake up they WANT US IN SEA GONE AND WE WILL NOT STAND THERE AND LET IT HAPPEN but u keep side with mad mans but when they blown a uk bus you can sit there and say its all good
bennyuk25 3 years ago
I didnt say anything of the kind. And i do support womens rights, and the rights of all human being to be equal, including palestinians. This isnt about the annhilation of israel, its about the dismantling of aparthied in palestine. Your comment proves your racist attitude, an attitude that prolongs this conflict. You call them no more than dogs, and israel treats them like dogs. You disgust me. FREE PALESTINE
phild1066 3 years ago
Free Palestine from who? The rightful owners control it now. Nowhere in history have the Palestinian people ruled Palestine. The closest one might say would be when Omar took it in 638AD, but they were Arabs and held it until around 1300 or 1400, when the Turks took it, then of course they fell to the British, then the British tried to give it to the Palestinians, who were in Jordan by the way, but they refused it, so they gave it to the Jews, who re-founded Israel.
zhaozhilong01 3 years ago
My grandfather fought during the second world war in a country called PALESTINE. And if you want to split hairs, 3000 years ago, the israelites took the land off the caananites, so your claim is as frail as the palestinians'.
phild1066 3 years ago
well during 2nd world war grandfather was busy runny from nazi and most of the the family so this is why we need a home
bennyuk25 3 years ago
phild1066, the area is known as Palestine and has been for a while(around 2,000 years). In WWII, when Germany took France I'm willing to wager that the people still called it France, since the area has been known as that for a long time. I don't know what claim you think is false? Omar is correct, Israel controls Palestine, correct, Palestinians have never controled Palestine, correct, everything I said is historically correct, my friend.
zhaozhilong01 3 years ago
Im not going to get into arguing about that, the fact is the palestinians have lived there for hundreds of years and it is their homeland, aswell as the jews homeland. The thing that would move a whole step towards peace is if israel went back to the borders designated to them by the international community in 1947. If that happened im pretty sure palestine and most arab countries would recognise israel. Oh and likening your occupation to that of nazi germany in france isnt too clever.
phild1066 3 years ago
come on... u r so naive
arabs [extremists] wants to crash Israel and exterminate all jews.
YardenPorat 3 years ago 5
So what you are saying is that evry arab is an extremist? and every arab wants to exterminate israel?
phild1066 3 years ago
The land Israel has obtained since its formation was all legally obtained, since it was done during war times and the only land it took was from its enemies, Egypt and Syria. That's what happens in war and to ask someone to give the land back is complete nonsense, especially when you consider the fact that Israel was attacked first in these wars.
zhaozhilong01 3 years ago
no u disgust me ur view is a lie they is no such thing of palestine u can free sumthing thats is not real. israel is the only country to have offered a state to palestinians but they to busy blown them self up and shotting dead kids so we have try but u cant teach old DOGS new ticks so we have to bliuld walls have cheack ponts and all that stuff becuse they cant be tusted and you would not let a wild dog need ur town g-d bless israel
bennyuk25 3 years ago
The bile that pours out of your mouth is remeniscent of that of the Nazis in germany. With your remarks you only go on further to prove my point.
I am not going to comment on things like this any more.
May peace be with you.
phild1066 3 years ago
i think the nazis is u anit israel anit jews
so stop living in a dream
bennyuk25 3 years ago
Nothing i have said is remotely racist or anti-israeli, you on the other hand have proven yourself a racist. And my grandfather fought the nazis for freedom for all humanity, not just the jews.
phild1066 3 years ago
duh....
bennyuk25 3 years ago
israekis have received more nobel and other international science prizes than all then all the arab and muslim nations combined FACT
there r more people with phd per head in israel than in the all world FACTS
bennyuk25 3 years ago
So what? what is your point? that israel has more money to spend on education thatn any other arab stste? tell me something we dont know! And what i posted was not lies, if anyone doesnt believe me check out the sources i gave. Aid organisations and impartial observers dont lie for properganda purposes. You believe what you do because of your vested interest in the status quo. And the claim that the land is your because of the Torah again does not hold water. The christian bible includes this.
phild1066 3 years ago
the piont of this is you sit there saying about israel human rights but the people who fund and suports the palestinians take the piss out of the own people so u cant say f all about israel. why dont u support woman right in places huh? why do side with people no more than dogs they did f all with the land and is not just torah that say the land is urs the history book do maybe u should stop look up ur own ass for facts u cry about the poor palestinians that israel dont give them water or
bennyuk25 3 years ago
FACTS in israel whether jewish muslim or christan can criticise the israeli goverment and its leaders no citizen of any other mid eastern or muslim state can do the same without fear of imprisonment or death nor can palestinians openly criticise their leaders without fear of reprisal
bennyuk25 3 years ago
u keep on sicking up for people dont give woman rights and stone them because they not have they heads covered or the teacher who name the teddy bear muhammad she was lucky several months before constructon worker arthur fish met a far worse fate he was helping to build a sudanese hospital ahe had gotten together with co-workers and formed jazz band named muhammed and the all star jazz players their first performance at a popular sudanese jazz club
bennyuk25 3 years ago
AND IT WAS RAIDED AND ALL MEMBERS OF THE BAND HAD THEIR HEADS CUT OFF AND THESE ARE THE SAME PEOPLE IN IRAN AND ALL OR THE COUNTY THE ARE AROUND ISRAEL SO U KEEP ON FIGHTTING 4 SICK MINED PEOPLE AND WHEN THEY BLOWN MORE BUS AND KILL MORE KIDS YOU CAN SIT THEY AND SAY ITS OK THEY FREEDOM FIGHTERs
bennyuk25 3 years ago
lies
bennyuk25 3 years ago
israel is the only true democracy in the middle east and the only country that has virtually unlimited freedom of speech
bennyuk25 3 years ago
Suicide bombing is a reprehensible and unacceptable tactic. These attacks should stop immediately. What needs to be added, and what is almost always missing in American media commentary is a similar condemnation of Israel's deliberate targeting of Palestinian civilians.
phild1066 3 years ago
Since the Palestinian uprising started in late September 2000, more than 1,500 Palestinians, and 400 Israelis have been killed (as of April 12, 2002), the vast majority on both sides being unarmed civilians. Most of the deadly violence against innocent civilians, therefore, has been committed by Israeli forces and has been directed at Palestinians.
phild1066 3 years ago
Israel and its supporters claim that while Palestinian suicide bombers deliberately target Israeli civilians, Israel tries to avoid harming Palestinian civilians and that those who have died are "collateral damage." Hence, they argue, there is no moral equivalence between the killing of civilians by Israel and Palestinians. This defies both common sense and all the available evidence.
phild1066 3 years ago
On the one hand, Israel wants us to believe that 400 of its own civilians were deliberately targeted, while more than three times as many dead Palestinians all somehow just got in the way of what Israel claims is its humane and disciplined army. It is, in essence, an argument that 1,500 people all died by accident.
phild1066 3 years ago
Every human rights group that has examined Israel's practices has documented systematic and deliberate use of violence targeted at unarmed Palestinian civilians by Israeli forces. Physicians for Human Rights USA which investigated the high number of Palestinian deaths and injuries in the first months of the Intifada, concluded that:
phild1066 3 years ago
"the pattern of injuries seen in many victims did not reflect IDF [Israel Defense Forces] use of firearms in life-threatening situations but rather indicated targeting solely for the purpose of wounding or killing."
Source: PHR USA, 22 November 2000
phild1066 3 years ago
This finding was based on "the totality of the evidence" the investigators collected about:
"the high number of gunshots to the head; the volume of serious, disabling thigh injuries; the inappropriate firing of rubber bullets and rubber-coated steel bullets at close range; and the high proportion of Palestinian injuries and deaths."
phild1066 3 years ago
lies
bennyuk25 3 years ago
Seized Palestinian land has been used to build Jewish-only settlements linked by a network of Jewish-only roads, in flagrant violation of UN Security Council Resolutions and the Fourth Geneva Convention. This colonization is, and can only be, carried out by the violent suppression of any and all Palestinian resistance to the occupation.
phild1066 3 years ago
Throughout the years of the "peace process" during the 1990s, Israel continued to construct settlements, doubling the number of settlers in the West Bank from about 100,000 to 200,000 according to the Israeli group "Peace Now." At least 34 new settlements have been built since Sharon took office.
phild1066 3 years ago
good i hope there kept one 4 me i think i buy 1 becuse it is my right the land is urs they is no such thing as Palestine it lie ur a joke wake up mate and stop dreaming
bennyuk25 3 years ago
good i hope there kept one 4 me i think i buy 1 becuse it is my right the land is urs they is no such thing as Palestine it lie ur a joke wake up mate and stop dreaming
bennyuk25 3 years ago
The entire international community has recognized that Israel's military occupation must end, and that its continuation, along with the settlement policy, and the massive repression they entail is a guarantee of continued bloodshed. Israel's brutal actions in the occupied territories are designed to consolidate and entrench the occupation and expand Israeli colonization, and are therefore, by definition, not defensive in nature.
phild1066 3 years ago
The Israeli claim that its attacks on the Palestinians constitute "self defense" ignores the fact that its posture in East Jerusalem, the West Bank and Gaza Strip is, by definition, not defensive. Since 1967, Israel has maintained tens of thousands of heavily armed troops outside its borders for the purposes of stealing land from the Palestinians and forcing them to live as non-citizens under a foreign military dictatorship.
phild1066 3 years ago
In making the moral superiority claim, Israel's apologists are either shamelessly denying the irrefutable evidence and are simply lying, or they are asserting that some forms of murder are morally superior to other forms of murder.
phild1066 3 years ago
lies
bennyuk25 3 years ago
There can be no doubt that Israeli troops have been targeting innocent Palestinian civilians for death from the beginning of the uprising. This understanding was also reflected in UN Security Council Resolution 1322, passed on October 7, 2000, which
"Condemns acts of violence, especially the excessive use of force against Palestinians, resulting in injury and loss of human life."
phild1066 3 years ago
no no no no wat lies the idf DON'T TARGET INNOCENT PEOPLE THATS A LIE INNOCENT GET KILL BECUSE HAMAS FIGHT GO IN HOME SHOOTS AT IDF THAN THEY HIDE IN ROOMS WITH KIDS SO ITS HAMAS WHO KILLS INNOCENTS PEOPELE THE IDF DO NOT GO IN SCHOOL AND SHOOT DEAD KIDS OR FIRE ROCKETS AT HOME WERE THEYS NO FIGHTERS HAMAS DO GET UR FACTS RIGHT......
bennyuk25 3 years ago
What has been confirmed by human rights groups has also been observed directly by journalists.
In October 2001, Harper's magazine published the "Gaza Diary" of journalist Chris Hedges. Hedges' entry for June 17, 2001 provides even more shocking evidence of the wanton and deliberate killing of Palestinian children by Israeli soldiers at Gaza's Khan Yunis refugee camp.
phild1066 3 years ago
well said i cant believe theres fools. they stand up 4 people who blown them self up its like giving the 7/7 bomer part of london its a joke they was no PALESTINE its is a frand but this fool cant see it
bennyuk25 3 years ago
Well thats where you are wrong sonny, people DO care, thats why thousands of people attend every pro-palestinian rally held in the UK alone. The tide is slowly starting to turn and the world is not being kept in the dark by the israeli and US control of media. Thanks to the work of the BBC and other reputable organisations. And people like you will be exposed for the racist you are.
phild1066 3 years ago
And the Facts that you say may be fantasies are sourced from 'reuters, Amnesty international, the israeli human right watch B'Tselem' and other highly regarded organisations. So those FACTS actually are FACTS!!!!
phild1066 3 years ago
I noticed how no pro-israeli had any response to all the FACTS i posted a few comments earlier. It is clear to people how israel is an oppressive state. Just look at the FACTS. I will say again, palestine has the worlds LARGEST refugee population!!!! Israel has no more right to the land than the Brits do to india. And in response to all that crap posted about democratic government, please stop posting stuff from wikipedia, you dont know what your talking about evidently.
phild1066 3 years ago
Look how the pro-israelis resort to childish insults as a way to get a rise from people on hear. Your arguments do not hold water and are badly put across so you say something like 'Billabong96' just has. How pathetic.
phild1066 3 years ago
torah's cow hide. kinda awkward.
flukeskydiver 3 years ago
Both groups are an organic resistance from refugee camps and the village up - you seem to think they're some kind of national army.
There is no difference between your language and tactics and those of the Nazi's in Warsaw! Thanks to people like you the correlation between Nazi Germany and Israel today is increasingly clear.
PauloGVieira 3 years ago
Again moron, the people democratic party is a political group. by definition it cannot be a democracy as a few people make the decisions for every one. For China or any other nation to be a democracy the people must have direct influance on the decision make process. Democracy means rule by the people as in the people rule not a small group that makes the decision for them.
Look it up.
dude the rest of that comment is retarded. Stop pretending.
Crazylalalalala 3 years ago
All those comments you have just posted are so widely open to individual interpretation, as much so as the Torah and the gospels. They are NOT proof of hatred and intolerance.
phild1066 3 years ago
Maybe all the killings then are PROOF???
Go to:
thereligionofpeace(dot)com
See the list, there have been over 10,000 religiously motivated Islamic terrorism attacks across the globe since 9/11.
zzx2847 3 years ago
I agree killings are proof of hatred from that INDIVIDUAL, what you are doing is trying to prove a hatred from a whole religion! Not some individuals that practice that religion.
Also it is by no means only islamic motivated killings that happen.Look at Yitzak Rabin. Murdered by a zionist jew!
phild1066 3 years ago
Hatred from an individual, really? And where do they get that hatred from? Mickey Mouse?
The teachings of violence and hatred is everywhere in the Koran, and the followers of it are only doing Allah's will.
zzx2847 3 years ago
What? you need to ask where the hatred comes from? It comes from the opression the palestinians suffer under israeli occupation! If it comes from the holy Qur'an why do Christians hate the israeli regime just as much as the muslims? Your logic is totally flawed by YOUR own obvious dislike for muslims.
phild1066 3 years ago
We are not talking exclusively about hatred toward Israel. Look at the types of attacks from that list. It is all over the world in every corner.
zzx2847 3 years ago
Christians are for the most part very supportive of Israel and so is the secular world and governments. The only ones you will see on the constant attack of condemnation is league of Arab Muslim nations who really should care less under all logic being that it has nothing to do with them, but in reality have much to do with them because of Islam.
zzx2847 3 years ago
Well I would say if a military might completed oppressed your human dignity, freedom, identity, and self-determination I think it is fair to assume a sense of hatred for that very entity.
Please correct me if I am wrong but is this not the very basics of human nature?
PauloGVieira 3 years ago
you are right, u explained very well why israeli settled theyr army in gaza and cisgiordania in 1967
puffolotti 3 years ago
Because they want their f*cking land!
If Israel were concerned about its own safety and security it would have reinforced its international borders! What happened was that it settled its citizens in disputed land and effectively put them in the middle of a war zone! Its colonising Palestine!
You're a f*cking idiot.
PauloGVieira 3 years ago
You do realise Israel has killed more Palestinians...using your very reasoning what does this say about the Torah?
PauloGVieira 3 years ago
torah says the land was give the us bye god so the should jog on go home stop hating jew and they 1 jewish state go back to they holes and they goats the jew will not give it back its taken 6m jewish people to get r land back israel is the land of the jew it not just in the torah its FACT it r land and no will take it
bennyuk25 3 years ago
I dont hate jews in the slightest, there are many jews that think the actions of the israeli government is wrong. The people that arrested the woman for naming her teddy bear mohammed and those who stone women in afganistan etc, they are not the SAME people that i believe are being wronged. The palestinian people are not all muslim, many christians are palestinian. This has nothing to do with religion from my point but basic human rights.
phild1066 3 years ago
torah says the land was give the us bye god so the should jog on go home stop hating jew and they 1 jewish state go back to they holes and they goats the jew will not give it back its taken 6m jewish people to get r land back israel is the land of the jew it not just in the torah its FACT it r land and no will take it
bennyuk25 3 years ago
9:107 And as for those who chose a place of worship out of opposition and disbelief, and in order to cause dissent among the believers, and as an outpost for those who warred against Allah and His messenger aforetime, they will surely swear: We purposed naught save good. Allah beareth witness that they verily are liars.
zzx2847 3 years ago
Again you conveniently ignore one of the most used phrases in the Koran and that is the 'people of the book' - Jews, Christians and Muslims.
Idiot! Your mother must be so disappointed.
PauloGVieira 3 years ago
Again you conveniently ignore one of the most used phrases in the Koran and that is the 'people of the book' - Jews, Christians and Muslims.
Idiot! Your mother must be so disappointed.
PauloGVieira 3 years ago
2:65 And ye know of those of you who broke the Sabbath, how We said unto them: Be ye apes, despised and hated!
zzx2847 3 years ago
5:33 The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom;
zzx2847 3 years ago
9:111 Lo! Allah hath bought from the believers their lives and their wealth because the Garden will be theirs: they shall fight in the way of Allah and shall slay and be slain. It is a promise which is binding on Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur'an. Who fulfilleth His covenant better than Allah ? Rejoice then in your bargain that ye have made, for that is the supreme triumph.
zzx2847 3 years ago
8:17 Ye (Muslims) slew them not, but Allah slew them. And thou (Muhammad) threwest not when thou didst throw, but Allah threw, that He might test the believers by a fair test from Him. Lo! Allah is Hearer, Knower.
zzx2847 3 years ago
4:89 They long that ye should disbelieve even as they disbelieve, that ye may be upon a level (with them). So choose not friends from them till they forsake their homes in the way of Allah; if they turn back (to enmity) then take them and kill them wherever ye find them, and choose no friend nor helper from among them,
zzx2847 3 years ago
And one more thing in relation to a comment made by zz2847. 'BUT THE ARABS HATE THE JEW' Palestine has a huge christian population, i know that to be an arab and a christian are not always separate, but the christian palestinians are treated as abominably as the muslim palestinians. some arabs may hate jews, but alot of jews hate anyone that is not jewish and the hate is not reserved solely for arabs either.
phild1066 3 years ago
Exactly! What no one mentions is that after Lebanon Palestine has the biggest proportion of Christians! What no one also mentions is that within the Hamas Govt. is a number of high-profile Christians.
Before the state of Israel a Palestinian was Jewish, Christian or Muslim.
PauloGVieira 3 years ago
And what you failed to mention is that the Muslim Palestinians are killing these Christian Palestinians in their own land and abroad.
Your painted picture of Utopia could not be further from the reality of the situation. Islam's goal is to extinguish the "apes and pigs" of other religions. It says this in the Koran. Islam is not about tolerance. Open your eyes to the truth man!
zzx2847 3 years ago
WRONG! Do not tell me what is happening in Palestine - you dont know who you are talking to! Bethlehem is the only city in the world that I have seen where Muslims and Christians head to the Church of the Nativity together for Christmas!! Even Hamas was there! Do not profess to tell me they are at war with each other!
You open your eyes to the truth! You claim the Koran is all about ethnic cleansing but it is Israel that is doing all of this!
PauloGVieira 3 years ago
These are some actual FACTS from Reuters and fortune magazine. Plestinian number plates in israel are colour coded to identify jews and non-jews, FACT. The US gives 5 BILLION dollars in aid to israel each year, FACT. This aid amounts to more than the aid given by the US to the whole of the african continent, FACT. The palestinian refugee population makes up the largest portion of refugees in the world, FACT. Today isral sits on the site of more than 400 vanished palestinian villages, FACT.
phild1066 3 years ago
Israel stands in violation of 69 UN securtiy council resolutions, FACT. Non-jewish israelis cannot buy or lease land in israel, FACT. In hebron 85% of the water is shared between 400 israelis whilst 15% has to be divided between 120,000 people, FACT.
Theses are all telling fFACTS my friends, from reputable sources. They point to a blatant disregard for basic human rights and to opression and division. I dont advocate violence as a means for palestine get freedom but this is just wrong.
phild1066 3 years ago
but all i see is hate and that why i stand he fight 4 more home county so how u can and say its all isreal is WRONG anit isreal thing going on r wrong and its all like hitter back in pre was germay and when u have ass hole like iran were woman have no right and the press is contolled welll good freedom so u all keep on hating israel and we will keep on fight becuse we r god people g-d bless israel
bennyuk25 3 years ago
but all i see is hate and that why i stand he fight 4 more home county so how u can and say its all isreal is WRONG anit isreal thing going on r wrong and its all like hitter back in pre was germay and when u have ass hole like iran were woman have no right and the press is contolled welll good freedom so u all keep on hating israel and we will keep on fight becuse we r god people g-d bless israel
bennyuk25 3 years ago
SORRY ABOUT 3 OF THE SAME COMMENT
bennyuk25 3 years ago
THE REAL REASON WHY WE CAN'T HAVE PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
The Koran
5:51 O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk.
zzx2847 3 years ago
You taking a passage from the Koran completely out of context is the reason we cant have peace! I am not a Muslim by any means, I love bacon and drink too much wine, but I know that this passage refers to Mohammed's troubles with the people of those faiths in Medina.
You conveniently ignore the constant references in the Koran to 'people of the book' - Jews, Christians and Muslims who have an esteemed position together in the eyes of god.
Idiot!
PauloGVieira 3 years ago
It is not at all out of context, there are so many lines in the Koran that teach to hate (and even kill) the Jews and Christians because they are "disbelievers". Mohamed himself went around on "Holy" crusades killing Jews because they did not believe what he said and thought he was a madman. This is the perfect example set forth for the followers and is exactly why we see so much violence, hate and intolerance and disrespect from Islam around the world.
zzx2847 3 years ago
You completely ignore the very basic fact of the Koran - that promotes the people of the book, Muslims, Christians and Jews, to the esteemed level before the eyes of god.
I would not even dare go through the Torah and post out-of-context remarks about it out of respect. Despite this there are many rabbis that point to the Torah to justify the cleaning of Christians and Muslims from the land Israel wants. Now you tell me why they are ok to do this and its evil when Islam does it?
PauloGVieira 3 years ago
i would love to see pace but u all forget that the land the israel "HAVE STOLEN" was taken when we were fight in the 6 day war it was when 6 cuonty start on us becsue they got they ass kick then they cry becsaue they loss and isreal taken land wich most of it was nicly giving back.....
bennyuk25 3 years ago
u should all look at my page and u would see that i am a pot smoking hippy who blevid in 1 love and 1 people but as a young man i just see hate and more hate both side have blood on they hands BUT THE ARABS HATE THE JEW i have them in my home town shout off they big mouths about jew and Israel and
bennyuk25 3 years ago
just as bad as "zionism" as u put it but they is no bycoled hamas they still get money and thats just like ira getting money
bennyuk25 3 years ago
i am only 20 and i live in the uk but u can call me a Zionism becsue i blevie that the jew should have they own land i do think sum thing that israel r wrong BUT u can dont run in schools and shoot diead kids and frie rocket at my family they have had over 900 rocktes fired at them so u can not stand there and say look at we are doing becsue they do just as bad thing if not wost stuff going and shoot dead kids is sickand they r
bennyuk25 3 years ago
I cannot understand you - your words are incomplete and you whole paragraph has no sentences or proper grammar.
You are completely incoherent which explains why you're pro-Israel.
PauloGVieira 3 years ago
If that isn't the most bigoted and dishonorable comment I've seen yet.
zzx2847 3 years ago
Yawn!
PauloGVieira 3 years ago
Damn right my friend, if only europe had the bollocks to actually do whats right and not be scared of the US.
phild1066 3 years ago
You are a disgusting being - tell me your desire for the Palestinians to be wiped out is any different from the Nazi's desire to rid the world of Jews.
PauloGVieira 3 years ago
very intelligent well presented argument, i wish i was like you.....
phild1066 3 years ago
Well fellahs, you've all been great to talk to (even the stubborn ones), but I gotta go board a flight to Brazil at 10pm tonight - first time I've been there in 10 years! and I haven't even packet yet (it's 3pm here in Toronto). I'll be back soon to check up on you ladies and gentlemen.
Take Care all, and FREE PALESTINE!! :)
NegligentYouth 3 years ago
Have a great trip, i wish the UK had footy players like brazil! Come back soon so there is someone else that will fight my corner! Im off to watch arsenal vs liverpool now.
Free Palestine!
phild1066 3 years ago
Brasil is great - the only country in the world that is doing right by the Palestinian refugees.
PauloGVieira 3 years ago
Yes some palestinians attack and kill innocent israelis, some believe violence will solve the problem, but israel attack and kill hundreds of palestinians evry time, the destroy muslim holy places, schools etc. The palestinians have a right to be free in their own countrie, not have it occupied and settled by invaders. and dont go on about that shite that 'god gave it to us' because that is just obserd.
phild1066 3 years ago
What about all the Palestinians living in Lebanon and Jordan? I don't see those countries making as generous an offer as Israel has to create a Palestine.
zzx2847 3 years ago
And you just continue to write like you have any reason!
Your argument is just as plausible as Portugal creating a Basque nation-state to solve Spain's problem.
PauloGVieira 3 years ago
The ethic Palestinians aren't indigenous to the land of Israel but rather the encompassing area including those controlled by Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon. Those countries should give up land for them and create a FREE PALESTINE. But no, the only qualm they have is with non-Islamic states and especially those respecting Jews and Christians.
zzx2847 3 years ago
It even says in the Koran to not seek friendship with them. I wonder what the alternative to friendship is?
5:51 O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk.
zzx2847 3 years ago
You do realise that before the Israelites we had the Canaanites - now will you be so kind as to tell everyone what ethnicity they were?
By the very standard you apply to your argument I think you have shot yourself in the foot.
PauloGVieira 3 years ago
So you admit that Israel was a nation 3,000 years ago? Now we are getting somewhere.
zzx2847 3 years ago
What has that got to do with anything? Babylon was a nation 3000 years ago, sumeria, the mayan civilsation was a nation thousands of years ago. I ask again what hgas it got to do with this discussion?
phild1066 3 years ago
So you admit that Israel was a nation 3,000 years ago? Now we are getting somewhere.
zzx2847 3 years ago
Idiot - sure lets bring back the nation-states of the bible. I have always wanted to see the Hanging Gardens of Babylon again and always had such a fascination with Pharaonic Egypt.
PauloGVieira 3 years ago
To all whom would find it hard to believe that a Jew can be against the Zionist illegal state of Israel, watch these videos and OPEN YOUR EYES!! You will see ORTHODOX JEWS (which I am not) protesting against the fascist state of Israel. Read their signs and listen to their words, and you will understand how Zionism is vile and has co-opted Judaism for it's own purposes, but they are not the same thing!! If you read your history you will find that the founder of modern Zionism isn't even Jewish!!
NegligentYouth 3 years ago
Here are the videos :)
watch?v=yRb2kM_y7C8
and
watch?v=WQGQeLN1lyk
If you're the type that is too stubborn and ignorant to even so much as peruse these videos for fear that it might upset your world-view than please don't direct your posts at me, I'm looking for honest debate, not to argue with western zealots and fanatics who have a "know-it-all" attitude and a false sense of intellectual superiority...you know who you are
NegligentYouth 3 years ago
No I believe it. Just as some Palestinians are pro Israel, and some Americans are anti-American. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not every opinion is based on understanding and respect.
zzx2847 3 years ago
Agreed.
I sense that we can at least agree to disagree, whereas others who will go unmentioned only level insults at me and others in this forum.
I respect all peoples, all races and all cultures; and what I seek from them is a deeper understanding of the Universe. However, I despise, all those who wish to use as pawns the free peoples of the world in order to further their own selfish interests: Zionism, Western capitalist imperialism, Islamofascism, are but a few examples of what I HATE!
NegligentYouth 3 years ago
What's your opinion on socialism/communism? :)
zzx2847 3 years ago
My opinion is that any 'extreme' form of politics wont work. I am left wing but think the flaws in human character will not let communism work.
phild1066 3 years ago
Absolutely, i think at least there is one intelligent person commenting. I agree with your whole comment, and only wish others could be as open minded as you are.
phild1066 3 years ago
You have much too much hate in your heart; you must learn to love.
KAHANEZADAK 3 years ago
KAHANEZADAK:
I find it strange that an American Christian such as yourself would be a proponent of Mei Kahane. He was - aside from a racist Zionist - a proponent of a Jewish Theocracy! That is diametrically opposed to democratic American values. Furthermore,his theocratic views were much akin to what you call Islamofascism, where gov't law is circumvented by the Torah and Talmud (or the Qu'ran in Islamofascist's case). And a ZIONIST THEOCRACY would be tantamount to the coming of the antichrist
NegligentYouth 3 years ago
LOL and the funny thing is there is a big golden dome from a beautiful mosque that looks over Jerusalem.
PauloGVieira 3 years ago
ALL OF U R SICK IN THE HEAD BAD TALKING ZIONIST WELL FUCK U ALL U WILL NOT STOP ISRAEL GETTING BACK THE LAND WE HAT TO GO FROM ALL THEM YEARS AGO SO WE HAVE NOT STLONE FUCK ALL AND IF THE ARABS nationS R UP SETUP WHY DONT THE GIVE SUM R THE 1000 1000 MILE OF SAND THEY ALL HAVE STOP HATING ISRAEL WE LOOK OUT 4 #1 BECUSE NO1 LOOKS OUT FOR US AND THERE LOTS OF Muslims NATIONS BUT 1 JEWISH SO WANT U ALL R SAYING THE JEWISH SHOULD NOT HAVE A COUNTY FOR THM SELF G-D BLESS ISRAEL...
bennyuk25 3 years ago
Moron. Notice how it sais democratic not the democracy of china. China is a republic and the democratic indicates that they want people to believe that regular chines have influence over the govt. Do some research moron. Democracy and Republic are two different political systems.
Yes many arab nations require Jews to pay additional taxes. "Why not a Palestinian tax and charge..." Because we are not animals.
whats with the "we"?
Crazylalalalala 3 years ago
To PaouloGVieira, I raise my hat for u my friend, you are 100% right, and there is no such a thing called Israel, it is the occupied palestine, but whatever goes up will go down, and it is starting to go down
Guevara1961 3 years ago