If you want to learn map/ compass reading best go on a mountain skills programme ....don't trust in bluffers !! This guy seems ok , but there is a bit more to learn before you go ''out there''!
At last a tutorial that explains how to use a compass with a map. Last year on a trip up helvellyn with the hope that my mate knew how to read a compass with a map he didnt, now i get it, thanks good tutorial i so dont want to buy a gps electronic toy ;-)
He forgot to mention that You need to aline the "Direction of travel ARROW" before You Actually place the compass base plate!!!! for inexcperienced walkers and map readers this could prove disasterous!....I.e......headindg off in the opposite direction than intended!!!!!!!
Variation is the difference between north and magnetic north. It changes based on where you live. In MD USA it's about 7 deg. Var should be written near the compass-rose on a map or chart.
why go to all that trouble, and complicate matters when you can simply line north on the compass with North on the map? All maps are orientated so the top of the page is North and the bottom is south!!! place the compass in the correct orientation with the north south axis of the map and rotate untill North is found by the Needle and then head off in the appropriate direction....!!!!
Look carefully at 1:31. He looks up quickly before the video ends. There's only 1 explanation: he saw Chuck Norris in the forest, and all polar directions reversed, leading him into the opposite direction, therefore stunning his orienteiring ability. Forever paralized in a sub-dimension of confusion. Oh, the life of a hiker.
@beyoguz He went in the direction of the arrow on the baseplate, not the direction of the red needle arrow. If he were to follow the red needle arrow everywhere he went, he would keep going to the north magnetic pole.
I have a compass on a little survival tool thing i am just sitting here playing with. It does not have needles, instead just a disk with N E S W written on it, which spinds round in the glass orb thingy.
Forgetting the map situation i just want to know which way is north. (i know which way it is) but my compass cant seem to decide. which wouldn't be that helpful if i really wanted to know. Is there a way to fix this? or no because this is just a novalty, but a compass is a compass..
The metal disk with NESW will always point north and the bit that points north will have the N in the direction of north. Place it on the flat and don't touch it and it should settle with the N pointing north. If it does not settle it is because the needle/disk with NESW has been stored close to other metal objects and has become magnetically effected itself. This happens with any compass and is why compasses should be stored away from metal objects.
@GrahamThompson99 Thanks, that makes a lot of sense because you can pull a metal piece from within it which contains a sharp blade, bottle opener etc. I guess that was poorly designed. However, i did remove this piece and the N did seem to point the near enough the same direction each time i turned it. So i guess it was a flaw with the metal pieces. Thanks for the info.
Yes if the compass has metal things near it that will draw the needle over - so you would need to remove the compass from the penknife/tool etc. On the hills it is important to keep the compass away from your ice axe for example when taking a bearing otherwise you'll always drift left if your compass is in your left hand for example
I dont get it, doesnt a compass always point north? so if he knew where he was going, and he had a map that he knew the two points (where he was, and where he was going) wouldnt he just say by looking at it, oh. i have to go south, then look at his compass and go south?
@TheJoshy1992 Magnetic north (where the needle points) is not the exact same direction as true north (the direction to the north pole on the earth). All around the world in varying degrees, there is a variation between magnetic north and true north depending on where you are. In very specific areas there is no different, but there i basically only two "lines" where that is true on the entire earth. Everywhere else you have to add or subtract degrees from where your needle is pointing to find N.
Thanks for this. I went on a course four years ago and because I didn't practice I forgot 99% of what I was taught. This has given me the confidence to plan a route across my living room. Next week I'm into the Elenydd Mountains from Llandovery towards Rhayader and if it's the usual Welsh hill fog I'll be grateful for this refresher...thanks again.
It's not in depth , but it is the most practical video I have found. I've watched 5 or so today... all others were leaving out that you simply follow the bearing arrow after you have set declination. I was using the arrow to find the point/direction on the map but following the direction of N on the dial afterword(after aligning the arrow and accounting for declination). it took the last 2 seconds of his vid to show that properly and i now understand.
outdoor expert grahm thompson.... no expert to me after viewing this....it's for sure not clear...and i also can't stop laughing...hahahahahahahah....
This was helpful except for the part about allowing for magnetic variation. As a complete novice, I could have done with a little bit of explanation of what that means or why it's necessary. No biggie though, at least now I know what topic to look up.
@JohnnySoprano87 Look up declination. Declination is the difference in degrees between true north and magnetic north. The compass needle always points to magnetic north, thus giving an incorrect bearing. Declination changes depending on the region you are in. I am a novice and trying to learn this stuff as well.
@biotektan Yes it is for declination, however be sure to check the amount of declination in the area you will be orienteering, as it differs from region to region. If you havent bought a compass yet, you might want to buy a compass that allows you to dial in the declination with a set screw instead of mucking about with the bezel.
first time using a compass this after many videos is the one that made me understand how to use a compass....funny i was hiking never learned i though my compass was broke turning center dail
If you do some more research, its well known that SAS are the unit with the widest range of specialists making them the best and most adaptable unit on the face of this planet.
He should have pointed out at 1.22 that "walking off in this direction" means following the direction of travel arrow on the baseplate.
The example is slightly confusing for people learing as the N/S arrows are almost exactly lined up with the direction he says to walk. Follow the direction of travel arrow NOT the rotating arrows!
its the magnetic variation hes adding on, because he is taking a grid bearing and converting it to a magnetic bearing, which requires you to add the magnetic variation. this variation is caused by the earth magnetic north moving. GMA (grid -> magnetic = add) MGS (magnetic -> grid = subtract) the variations
@tasdecons he adds 2deg because this is his declination adjustment value based on his location. He says that he's allowing for magnetic variation, but he doesn't go into much detail. Where you are located on the globe determines how much magnetic pull is going to mess with your readings. Where he is located, he has to offset by 2degrees for this pull based on his location. The Compass store website has a good link on how to find your declination adjustment value.
@tasdecons@tasdecons he adds 2deg because this is his declination adjustment value based on his location. He says that he's allowing for magnetic variation, but he doesn't go into much detail. Where you are located on the globe determines how much magnetic pull is going to mess with your readings. Where he is located, he has to offset by 2degrees for this pull based on his location. The Compass store website has a good link on how to find your declination adjustment value.
read the info at the top of the map n you'll see it there,,,its only basic map reading basic ...you need to apply GMA for accurate navigation.mag bearing is taken from the ground and a grid bearing is taken from the map.
magnetic variation [or declanation] is the difference between magnetic north and true north a term with was changed in 1965 !!!!! quite why people still insist on using it i don't know as it is incorrect..The correct term used is between grid north and mag north and is grid magnetic angle[GMA] look at the top of the map !!!! check the date of the map ,, the annual change and GMA direction east or west!! [west in UK]
yes if you know the direction you went in at, also if you are on a high spot and you can see where you want to go take a bearing reading to the landmark after you start walking you no longer can see the landmark (like going through the woods) use your compass to keep on the correct bearing toward the landmark.
Graham is a fantastic guy, but he should have explained the use of the direction arrow on the base plate - if you get this wrong and just align the base plate, you'll be walking 180 degrees off course..
I'm confused. Suppose I'm in Washington State USA... my magnetic declination is 17.5* E. So I need to add that to the Grid North from the map right? My question is... Do I rotate the bezel to the right or the left? Thanks!
to convert a grid bearing to a magnetic bearing you add the variation ( turn dial anti clockwise ) to convert a magnetic bearing to a grid bearing you subtract the variation ( turn dial clockwise ) - hope that helps
the tip of your left thumb at 32 seconds, that thin black line you use to navigate from were you are and where you want to go as the side of the compass is unaccurate.
if only accounting for magnetic variation was so straight forward... ppl need to refer to the declination tables on their orienteering maps for specifics.
Yes, but how do you know exactly where you are on a map?
Maltrusion 2 weeks ago
Lol reminds me of Harry Enfield at the end
Undeworld667 2 weeks ago
If you want to learn map/ compass reading best go on a mountain skills programme ....don't trust in bluffers !! This guy seems ok , but there is a bit more to learn before you go ''out there''!
Lisnageeragh 3 weeks ago
why such precision in degrees required ? you cant go in straight line anyway!
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aweinsto 2 months ago
At last a tutorial that explains how to use a compass with a map. Last year on a trip up helvellyn with the hope that my mate knew how to read a compass with a map he didnt, now i get it, thanks good tutorial i so dont want to buy a gps electronic toy ;-)
Dwavard 2 months ago
i cant understand.
tradecycles 3 months ago
not very clear info,ive watched a few videos about this topic and i havent found one that is clear or leaves out info,no wonder people get lost!
remotaurog 3 months ago
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xXxZOMBIEKILLARxXx 6 months ago 11
With all those trees around him, if he thinks he's on Fairfield he needs more than a compass!
swerdnamij 7 months ago
Id probably take the needle out and slit my wrists with it because im a Neanderthal.
sz42781 8 months ago
He forgot to mention that You need to aline the "Direction of travel ARROW" before You Actually place the compass base plate!!!! for inexcperienced walkers and map readers this could prove disasterous!....I.e......headindg off in the opposite direction than intended!!!!!!!
nighterjay 8 months ago
Variation is the difference between north and magnetic north. It changes based on where you live. In MD USA it's about 7 deg. Var should be written near the compass-rose on a map or chart.
I agree not clear.
jlund75 8 months ago
Great Rigg? Is there a pub there?
monkeyboy4746 8 months ago
why go to all that trouble, and complicate matters when you can simply line north on the compass with North on the map? All maps are orientated so the top of the page is North and the bottom is south!!! place the compass in the correct orientation with the north south axis of the map and rotate untill North is found by the Needle and then head off in the appropriate direction....!!!!
nighterjay 8 months ago
Look carefully at 1:31. He looks up quickly before the video ends. There's only 1 explanation: he saw Chuck Norris in the forest, and all polar directions reversed, leading him into the opposite direction, therefore stunning his orienteiring ability. Forever paralized in a sub-dimension of confusion. Oh, the life of a hiker.
cswagner2 8 months ago
wat
kinc1967 9 months ago
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DukeofWild 9 months ago
Where do the batteries go into the compass?
Or is it a magic compass........
MrTimberHead 10 months ago
@MrTimberHead all compasses are magic when you need one.
OregonCoastGhost 10 months ago
@MrTimberHead you have to wind the compass up dummy
solgoode1 9 months ago
@solgoode1 haha, okay i'll smash my one open and wind it up next time,thanks
MrTimberHead 9 months ago
why'd ya need a compass, don't ya know where north is ya twat
BRIANisALRIGHT 1 year ago
and he was never seen again
ironmanc5 1 year ago 150
@ironmanc5 rolf
NightClubc 8 months ago
@ironmanc5
Haha :D
Tadziogb 7 months ago
@ironmanc5 best comment ive seen in awhile
xutbby420x 6 months ago
@ironmanc5 I saw him last week in south...
TriMrRasmus 3 months ago
Here's a different compass instruction...given in American English. Go to: DUKE OF WILD or click below this.
DukeofWild 1 year ago
So he ended up just walking south. Brilliant.
TheWolvie450 1 year ago
@TheWolvie450
Yeah I think also he went in the direction of the white part of the needle which is south... :)
beyoguz 1 year ago
@beyoguz He went in the direction of the arrow on the baseplate, not the direction of the red needle arrow. If he were to follow the red needle arrow everywhere he went, he would keep going to the north magnetic pole.
turboconn 11 months ago
@TheWolvie450 If you look at the map and listen to what he says, he is wanting to go south. He is brilliant afterall.
turboconn 11 months ago
thanks a lot, it really helped!=)))
LampochkaIljicha 1 year ago
Question!
I have a compass on a little survival tool thing i am just sitting here playing with. It does not have needles, instead just a disk with N E S W written on it, which spinds round in the glass orb thingy.
Forgetting the map situation i just want to know which way is north. (i know which way it is) but my compass cant seem to decide. which wouldn't be that helpful if i really wanted to know. Is there a way to fix this? or no because this is just a novalty, but a compass is a compass..
GamerSibbers 1 year ago
@GamerSibbers
The metal disk with NESW will always point north and the bit that points north will have the N in the direction of north. Place it on the flat and don't touch it and it should settle with the N pointing north. If it does not settle it is because the needle/disk with NESW has been stored close to other metal objects and has become magnetically effected itself. This happens with any compass and is why compasses should be stored away from metal objects.
GrahamThompson99 1 year ago
@GrahamThompson99 Thanks, that makes a lot of sense because you can pull a metal piece from within it which contains a sharp blade, bottle opener etc. I guess that was poorly designed. However, i did remove this piece and the N did seem to point the near enough the same direction each time i turned it. So i guess it was a flaw with the metal pieces. Thanks for the info.
GamerSibbers 1 year ago
@GamerSibbers
Yes if the compass has metal things near it that will draw the needle over - so you would need to remove the compass from the penknife/tool etc. On the hills it is important to keep the compass away from your ice axe for example when taking a bearing otherwise you'll always drift left if your compass is in your left hand for example
That would drive you around the bend! HoHoHo
GrahamThompson99 1 year ago 2
I dont get it, doesnt a compass always point north? so if he knew where he was going, and he had a map that he knew the two points (where he was, and where he was going) wouldnt he just say by looking at it, oh. i have to go south, then look at his compass and go south?
TheJoshy1992 1 year ago
@TheJoshy1992 Magnetic north (where the needle points) is not the exact same direction as true north (the direction to the north pole on the earth). All around the world in varying degrees, there is a variation between magnetic north and true north depending on where you are. In very specific areas there is no different, but there i basically only two "lines" where that is true on the entire earth. Everywhere else you have to add or subtract degrees from where your needle is pointing to find N.
fatsomamacheese 1 year ago
u suck!!!
ganboren1 1 year ago
u suck
ganboren1 1 year ago
Thanks for this. I went on a course four years ago and because I didn't practice I forgot 99% of what I was taught. This has given me the confidence to plan a route across my living room. Next week I'm into the Elenydd Mountains from Llandovery towards Rhayader and if it's the usual Welsh hill fog I'll be grateful for this refresher...thanks again.
aTruster 1 year ago
really good video, I liked the ending =p
TheToddAcademy 1 year ago
I didn't get it
jaundist 1 year ago
@jaundist You must be a student then. Most of them are thick it turns out. Merry Christmas
digger65uk 1 year ago
I'm an ape and this is too hard. i thought it was supposed to point north no matter what???
windinhishair10 1 year ago
@windinhishair10 yeah..... thats what i thought
drago433 1 year ago
haha nice one. Perfectly dorky at the end. Nicely done. +1
jigmesam 1 year ago
i`ve just posted some videos that explain in detail how to use a map and compass !
wxpm 1 year ago
" see you then , off i go " ... AAAARRRRGGGGHHHH!!!! ...( falls down mine shaft )
moaninggit1 1 year ago
Wasted!!!!!!!!!!!
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mariomadayag 1 year ago
I don't understand this!!!
HumbleRoyalty 1 year ago
It's not in depth , but it is the most practical video I have found. I've watched 5 or so today... all others were leaving out that you simply follow the bearing arrow after you have set declination. I was using the arrow to find the point/direction on the map but following the direction of N on the dial afterword(after aligning the arrow and accounting for declination). it took the last 2 seconds of his vid to show that properly and i now understand.
foxfairandbalanced 1 year ago
outdoor expert grahm thompson.... no expert to me after viewing this....it's for sure not clear...and i also can't stop laughing...hahahahahahahah....
phbppd 1 year ago
This was helpful except for the part about allowing for magnetic variation. As a complete novice, I could have done with a little bit of explanation of what that means or why it's necessary. No biggie though, at least now I know what topic to look up.
JohnnySoprano87 1 year ago
@JohnnySoprano87 Look up declination. Declination is the difference in degrees between true north and magnetic north. The compass needle always points to magnetic north, thus giving an incorrect bearing. Declination changes depending on the region you are in. I am a novice and trying to learn this stuff as well.
cockercane 1 year ago
haha spot on made me laugh
totalyruben 1 year ago
i dont get it
bainshee 1 year ago
Useful for a beginner, ... concise & to the point.
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Useful for a beginner, ... concise & to the point.
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arsixer 1 year ago
See ya, he says as he fall off the edge of a mountain lol
Scrumpyhead76 1 year ago
not a bender, hes wicked and what a useful video
diamondholly88 1 year ago
theres a thing i didnt understand?
why did you add 2° on the wheel?
Biotektan 2 years ago
I think that was for declination because true north is different from magnetic north. Degrees vary in different regins of the world
gmtnosa00 2 years ago 4
@biotektan Yes it is for declination, however be sure to check the amount of declination in the area you will be orienteering, as it differs from region to region. If you havent bought a compass yet, you might want to buy a compass that allows you to dial in the declination with a set screw instead of mucking about with the bezel.
nuffaction 2 years ago
what a bender
HENRYHOBBS1 2 years ago 2
that looks like a looooong walk mister!
asiguere 2 years ago
same haha
bushcraft96 2 years ago
Monty Python ??
FunnyCanadian 2 years ago
@secksy2 turning it right is clockwise.
agaichapter25 2 years ago
i have a 99c compass not high tech so im assed out on this skii trip!!!
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DonaldBecker79 2 years ago
first time using a compass this after many videos is the one that made me understand how to use a compass....funny i was hiking never learned i though my compass was broke turning center dail
gasdorf 2 years ago 2
NICE video. Very well explained. =)
obesejim 2 years ago 4
If you do some more research, its well known that SAS are the unit with the widest range of specialists making them the best and most adaptable unit on the face of this planet.
Boomrod 2 years ago
nice video. never thought it could be explained so easily.
becketthoworth 2 years ago
i'm still confused
omonaija4life 2 years ago 3
@omonaija4life Just take it one step at a time using a map with north/south gridlines and a compass like the one Graham uses to practice.
castellscastells 2 years ago
He should have pointed out at 1.22 that "walking off in this direction" means following the direction of travel arrow on the baseplate.
The example is slightly confusing for people learing as the N/S arrows are almost exactly lined up with the direction he says to walk. Follow the direction of travel arrow NOT the rotating arrows!
castellscastells 2 years ago 3
It's such a great vid! I'm new to navigating and i would have followed the rotating arrow if i hadn't of read your comment. Thanks!
wateery 2 years ago
@wateery No problem.
It's a good video apart from that one small bit.
If he just said "now walk in the direction of the arrow on the baseplate", it would have been a great vid.
castellscastells 2 years ago
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heavy breathing didn't help either (not talking about the wind, talking about the creepy breathing)
jigmesam 2 years ago
The blokes a nutter
billymog 2 years ago
It's not clear!
And why do you add 2 degrees, why not 1 or 5?
You should say what this depends on...
tasdecons 2 years ago 19
its the magnetic variation hes adding on, because he is taking a grid bearing and converting it to a magnetic bearing, which requires you to add the magnetic variation. this variation is caused by the earth magnetic north moving. GMA (grid -> magnetic = add) MGS (magnetic -> grid = subtract) the variations
adrianv2792 2 years ago
The 2 degree correspond to the magnetic declination and is usually give on the map you are using.
akaTheDevil 2 years ago
@tasdecons he adds 2deg because this is his declination adjustment value based on his location. He says that he's allowing for magnetic variation, but he doesn't go into much detail. Where you are located on the globe determines how much magnetic pull is going to mess with your readings. Where he is located, he has to offset by 2degrees for this pull based on his location. The Compass store website has a good link on how to find your declination adjustment value.
podCMA 9 months ago
@tasdecons @tasdecons he adds 2deg because this is his declination adjustment value based on his location. He says that he's allowing for magnetic variation, but he doesn't go into much detail. Where you are located on the globe determines how much magnetic pull is going to mess with your readings. Where he is located, he has to offset by 2degrees for this pull based on his location. The Compass store website has a good link on how to find your declination adjustment value.
podCMA 9 months ago
@podCMA I was about make the exact same comment, It's good to see a fellow physics enthusiast had it covered ;)
TheAllboutwin 8 months ago
@tasdecons Its always added on when using a compass because magnetic north and true north are slightly different from each other.
devendati 7 months ago
read the info at the top of the map n you'll see it there,,,its only basic map reading basic ...you need to apply GMA for accurate navigation.mag bearing is taken from the ground and a grid bearing is taken from the map.
featherman208 2 years ago
What?
wontaykennae 2 years ago
magnetic variation [or declanation] is the difference between magnetic north and true north a term with was changed in 1965 !!!!! quite why people still insist on using it i don't know as it is incorrect..The correct term used is between grid north and mag north and is grid magnetic angle[GMA] look at the top of the map !!!! check the date of the map ,, the annual change and GMA direction east or west!! [west in UK]
featherman208 2 years ago
go and fondle a grouse
5RXP 2 years ago
gaylord foker
chunkylover53x 2 years ago
yes if you know the direction you went in at, also if you are on a high spot and you can see where you want to go take a bearing reading to the landmark after you start walking you no longer can see the landmark (like going through the woods) use your compass to keep on the correct bearing toward the landmark.
TheHarleyhillbilly 2 years ago
fucking cool. I love navigating
tjalolx 2 years ago
you'd get lost going tae the lavy fir a slash ya clown!
5RXP 2 years ago
Eh?
tjalolx 2 years ago
Graham is a fantastic guy, but he should have explained the use of the direction arrow on the base plate - if you get this wrong and just align the base plate, you'll be walking 180 degrees off course..
Otherwise spot on.
verdesadventure 2 years ago
nice to see a compass vid that includes adjusting for the magnetic variation , so important for better accuracy
wxpm 3 years ago 2
he walked off in the wrong direction ha ha!!!
heyav1 3 years ago
I'm confused. Suppose I'm in Washington State USA... my magnetic declination is 17.5* E. So I need to add that to the Grid North from the map right? My question is... Do I rotate the bezel to the right or the left? Thanks!
2JobsStillPoorUSA 3 years ago
to convert a grid bearing to a magnetic bearing you add the variation ( turn dial anti clockwise ) to convert a magnetic bearing to a grid bearing you subtract the variation ( turn dial clockwise ) - hope that helps
wxpm 3 years ago
the tip of your left thumb at 32 seconds, that thin black line you use to navigate from were you are and where you want to go as the side of the compass is unaccurate.
XxMotocrosser211xX 3 years ago
surely you mean inaccurate
eddygortex 2 years ago
this one,its idiot proof
5RXP 3 years ago
reminds me of the opening scene of "The Blair Witch Project"...
pagboy529 3 years ago
if only accounting for magnetic variation was so straight forward... ppl need to refer to the declination tables on their orienteering maps for specifics.
ridinmabike 3 years ago
Nice easy video!
TangoTracker223 3 years ago 2
geezer's unstoppable.
godoter 3 years ago
I'm trying to learn aswell.
fishermanryan 3 years ago
the grizzly mother bear and her cubs didn't go hungry this day
rezzoro 3 years ago 3
"off I go"....and he was never seen again.
SuperLemonchipchip 3 years ago 81
@SuperLemonchipchip laughed so hard @ ur comment my eyes started watering.
chiefbluntsmoker 1 year ago
@SuperLemonchipchip HAHAHA CANT STOP LAUGHING!!!
themuscleguy 1 year ago
@SuperLemonchipchip Man, I laughed so hard to this comment that my abs is hurting like hell. Made my day!
Rufuken 1 year ago
@SuperLemonchipchip I bet he's still walking to this day.
Ezek2517 1 year ago
Thanks! Graham. Clear and very helpful.
joepwelsh 4 years ago 15
Your voice is hilarious.
pierate 4 years ago
lol
fishermanryan 3 years ago
thank you
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nice video
d0nunit 4 years ago
took about an hour to load the vid,gave up.
ajhow 4 years ago
nice and easy. thumbs up!
grahamle83 4 years ago
Nice one Graham. I am going to point my students to this video.
alastairjclark 5 years ago
thank you easy explanation
kurganuk 4 years ago