A draw back to useing urea ( PEE ) for the HHO is it may just actually eat the edges of the stainless steel plates slowly .so some of my research is showing .not sure if anyone out there has tryed this .it seemed to be cleaning my plates but the smell is naste .it really was doing some cleaning .but it seems that its eating up the edges as i said...and the foam gets with 2 inches of pee produces 4 inches of foam.use a screen and you can retreve the hydrogen fom the bubbles.but not a good idea.
I love everything about this, except for the fact that you don't show: a) how to build it b) how you hooked it up electrically (positive & negative or positive, negative, and neutral?) c) how much Hydrogen is produced?
Also this is a classroom of graduate students. This is You Tube. Maybe I don't represent the majority, which I think is not the case, but I need instructions, not a diatribe about Ohms. This looks really cool, but it will never take off b/c nobody can follow it.
@GamersMark Thank you for watching but did it ever occur to you that maybe, JUST MAYBE, I did not pursue this build besides throwing together a concept of what I wanted to do because I lacked the time and the funds to take it any further? If I had something to show, I would have shown it. Period.
this guy is more of a talker.. half the crap he said has nothing to do with making hho. the crap he talked more of was ohms law. ohms law is not going to help you in this matter.you have a better chance to make more hho if you knew more about metals . and the diff types of stainless.. your a dumbass...
I invented a breakthrough source of energy that violates the law of conservation of energy. I have a PROOF that there are phenomena which violate the law of conservation of energy. I am looking for $6M for a prototype and patents.
I invented a breakthrough source of energy that violates the law of conservation of energy. I have a PROOF that there are phenomena which violate the law of conservation of energy. I am looking for $6M for a prototype and patents.
I like the look of this!!! Are you still working on it.
I have been working on the same sort of thing.
I am making a cell that is self resonating, as if it was a musical instrument. The electrodes will be tuned equaily and allowed to sing freely. I'm kind of thinking if I can match it with some kind of frequency pluse it would amplitude. LIke a electric guitar.
It would sure be wonderful if you could somehow use an HiDef camera and upload your videos in HD. It would be much easier to see what you have going on.
By the way, thank you so much for your uploads. It's very informative and fascinating to watch your experiments. I would like to get to the point where I can generate my own HHO gas and finally remove myself from the Fossil Fuel market.
I have one humble request: Always show what the device can do FIRST, then tell people about it if it's VIABLE. No one want's to wait until the bitter end and have the device be a looser. All these HH0 videos should have Watts consumed, liters produced, water-chemical mixture, and perhaps footprint of design/materials. Now that would be the SCIENTIFIC way to proceed.
have somebody proved to make a solution of water and hydrogen peroxid and put it in to a cell and for electrods using silver plates as a catalizer?????????
If somebody prove that let my know the results !!!!!!!!!!!!!
im wondering if you could recommend a video only because you have so many . i m looking for anyone that might use high voltage to do all the work needed to break down the water instead of amps. i keep checking you tube but everybody seems to be using amps to do the work and that seems to be the opposite of what stan was doing. any help is appreciated im just waiting for the day when we can get off our dependence on oil or at least the way we use it and thanks for all the work
hey fossy, im a huge fan of ur vids.just one comment.please watch for the tone.....some of the vids wales might hear but i cant ! hahaha cheers friend keep up the work i watch ur vids at least once a week as a ref
Can you explain these technology, I am new to the HHO process and i am tryin to figure out my best options, is this better than a dry cell? what else do you recommend besides the cell for a diesel application?
why are you using just 5 plates out of 25?neutral plates doesnt make amy sense I made same cell a year ago with all 25 plates working 12 positive and 13 negative. works on regular water no electrolyte is needed also requires cooling system
hi,I wanted to ask You why not wrap your coil around your pvc casing to keep it from being exposed to electrolyte? the field will still effect the cell and stay dry.Also, why not use 22 or 24 agw laquered wire(the kind for motor and field windinds)with smaller gauge wire You can have many hundered turns with multi taps (in affect an autotransformer)which will enable You to vary voltage up or down to the cell(maybe 2volts @ 100amps or 100volt @4amps).I want to thank You for all the info.
It really is, I would think that the electromagnetic field your wanting to create needs to effect the solution rather than the conducting plates. I remember reading somewhere about Tesla saying it's like a teather ball, with every slap it will gain speed. So I'm taking it that he was under the assumption that by using a harmonic freq then pulsing the plates to do the "slapping". But then again I'm not extremely experienced in this field. Have any good starting points for reading material btw?
Hello all! All I can say is WOW! In the last few weeks I have been saturating my mind in HHO technonogy. I want to learn alot! This is awesome! Im a n00b 4sure... No I havent read the FAQ's yet, this may show it....
I have an idea: (uh oh!) make the plate holding side panels out of ceramic. Use a comb type tool to create the grooves. Ceramic is easy to work with and precisely shape. After firing the creamic it should be very resistant to heat damage, insulative, and cheap to make to boot!
Zerofossilfuel, I've really enjoyed watching your progress here and I appreciate the effort you've put forth. This magnet idea made me wonder about something. Would it be possible to add metal "dust" to the solution and use the electromagnet to agitate so it doesn't settle? Would that help produce more hydrogen in the electrolyzer by creating better conductivity, or perhaps creating new arcs to bust the hydrogen loose? Just wondered what you would think of that. Thanks again.
Interestingly, as I see your VSPB develop, I cannot help but see a similarity between your design and Mad Stu's design where both of you seem to evolve toward what MagDrive has already doing. If so, and if heat would ever be a significant issue with you, how about creating the cell in such a way that the individual stainless steel plates extend through the wall to the outside where this would behave like heat sink.
The warp field generated by a coil is twisted in on itself and not very useful for propulsion of ions. I would try placing the cell near the edge of a very large square coil or magnet so as to test the proximate effect of unidirectional warp.
Im experimenting in two different cell connections ,one with 2 plates + , - and the other is using 1 neutral plates - + - .These ss plates have identical shape and sizes.Now the two cells were supplied with same voltage and current say 10amps at 12vdc and i measure the individual output gas production. Each cell consumes 120watts and has almost the same amount of hho gas production. I verified this many times already and yet the same results.
There is a motor cycle out which uses a hydrogen fuel cell. I didnt much think about how it works, except they said it was electric and needed charging. I was in large Fuel Cell modules.
But I wonder if it has a battery built into the cell, which produces the HHO on demand with current regulators etc. As it does not use Gasoline, and the output was water.
Consider NO GAS, and electricity to the fuel cell as the way of the future?
im currently working on a NO-GAS version of the HHO for a 4 cylender toyota pickup, ill be using something similar to this very efficient design. its basically an hho-elec plug in hybrid.... going to take ALOT of work though..
In Australia we have Petrol where u call it Gasoline. We have a GAS fuel called LPG, Liquid Petroleum Gas.
So Im reckoning HHO into a LPG fitting, I dont know if you call that propane?
Though the idea of fuel injection system seems good too. Perhaps a do it yourself jet using the hollow needles from syringes? Some ideas Im running around with. The other side is a petrol 850W generator they sell for just over $119 on special. I am still thinking resonance is the way to go to get extra HHO.
Thank you very much, your faq is very helpful and instead of giving me a number of plates, you taught me what each neutral plate stands for. Thank you.
I have been following your work for quite some time. I'm curious to know if i've missed a video. I've watched all of them many times as far as I know and I know you don't like to share information with people who are not motivated to search for it on their own, but i'm unable to find the video that describes your plate stack specifically how many plates etc. If you could help me there, i'd be grateful. I wish you the best and am great success!
Question: Where is the energy coming from which enables the engine to use less fuel? I've read elsewhere people think it's making the combustion of gasoline more efficient, are they right? Also, is HHO an actual molecule or is it referring to the mixture of different ratios of H2 and O2? An encyclopedia that shall not be named makes no mention of a particular molecule called oxyhydrogen.
according to leading auto manufactures the best efficient ICE is less than 20% fuel efficient. So a big 80% is go wasted. A considerable amount goes as unburnt fuel, carbon, CO, and myriads of other substances, which could otherwise have prevented with a perfect combustion.
1) Making the combustion efficient by the introduction of Hydrogen itself saves some
2) Hydrogen burning as a fuel saves some
This two alone are enough to explain the claimed efficiency scientifically.
Sorry bud.. I ment have you ever tryed Paper thin spacing? I am waiting 2 day every time I glue one thing this time to make this cell perfect. My hope is more gas as always...
Hope to see a new video soon I respect what you are doing for us all!
My comment was not directed at you Zero. It was directed at the stupid bighead old school comment. I wrote it because I was tired of all these people who have no idea what they are talking about. I probably should have no commented. I guess I took it a little personally having spent 12 years in University. My old school thinking as someone may call it is sound and based on proof. I do however remind myself to keep an open mind.
I agree but only to a point. There is a practical limit where you begin to restrict the flow. Water that doesn't move between the plates will boil rather than disassociate.
I THINK I GOT IT sort of. resonant step charge to a test 100uf cap instead of cell. in the kv range at +- 11Khz some adjusting to do, but it works. I need from someone the capacitance value and resistance value of a "tube" cell in "tap" water so I can continue testing those values.. I think it is getting there.
My understanding is the water capacitor formed by the tube arrangement is not quite similar to a standard capacitor. It cannot simply replace by a resistance and capacitance. Even a tiny bit of impurities in the water (like electrolytes etc.) let pass electrons between electrodes, which obviously differers this from a standard capacitor. My suggestion is, just build a small one cell setup either two concentric tubular arrangement or two plates parallel arrangement for doing local testing.
and this I may have to do. Yes there are so many variables I know. I did not know what ball park even the value was in. I am thinking in the 1000uf range or better.
I guess my first theory is to duplicate Meyer's "electronics" which I think that I got working in the way that he did. But this was in a test circuit without an actual WFC. I was using a 100uf cap instead of a cell. I got the resonant pulse train in the KV range at +- 11Khz. All looks good, some cleaning and tweaking to do but I wanted to do it with the same parameters of a tube cell in tap water. I hope that this makes sense...
I don't think that it is imperative to resonate at the frequency of h2o but this may help also. Meyer never referred to that but that is something to try in the future. Right now the process to get this working with resonance, back EMF, HV and minimal current.
If you connect multimeter (on capacitance range) across the cell, the reading on DMO fluctuates violently and cannot get a stable reading. I have done this myself on my single tube arrangement. Some sophisticated Capacitance meter may be able to give some legible reading but surly not a general purpose digital multimeter.
Yeah, I guess I was hoping that someone had a capacitance meter and they at one time checked the value of the cell. I may have to go with surface area, gap and dielectric constant and figure it roughly myself. I was hoping for a real life practical value.
This is also going to be a problem with the capacitance value of the cell is so dynamically ever changing that it will be hard to keep the circuit in resonance. Some sensing PLL circuit is in order after this.
Schematics are already on the drawing board for an oscillator that tracks the fluctuating resonant point in real time of a tank circuit in which the WFC is part of the tank circuit.
I am really eager to see the schematics. I found it extremely difficult to design automatic resonance tracking on this setup. I am keen to do a simulation on your tracking circuit.
There are many forums which discusses Tesla Technologies and Stanley Meyer's WFC. If you want that path to follow, just join those.
This is Zero's video diary and we watch what he does. It does not mean Zero is the officially appointed advocate to preach on harnessing gas from water. whether it is right or wrong, zero is doing his own research and he has so kindly publishes them for public review.
And for all the Tesla and Meyer forum fans, has ANY of them given birth to a unit that has undergone peer review that produces enough HHO to run a ICE exclusively with power to spare to do other work?
Hi Zero!I'm rather new to the forum, in fact any forum.I also confess that I've looked closely at the data from only two forums, yours and another. What I find so impressive about you documentation, is that you document what you are doing; how you did it, and your results. This is something that is important to everyone. Other forums should be run so well.
Well not even sure that Tesla nor Meyer has gone under peer review? not sure. But I can tell you one thing that IF you even give an idea about OU in peer review that it will not go to well. lol
There is no device which demonstrate self sustainability in the world at current time to be peer reviewed for that matter.
Anyway specially Stanley Meyer has given us insight to things such as pulsing DC across electrodes in electrolysis, high voltage and low amperage, exceeding Faraday's assessments on gas production etc.
Producing even small amount of gas and try making more MPG reducing exhaust smoke is surly beneficial to all of us, eventhough without reaching OU.
Pentone's GEET device is heavily replicated and used in France, especially in the agricultural sector. As long as you don't run modified vehicle on public roads (thousands of farm acres to drive along for them), you can do anything to your vehicle within current legal framework in most of the countries. They run 20% gasoline/diesel and 80% water with no smoke. We in US put the inventor in a mental hospital and try our best to discredit his achievements. Who should be in the hospital, you decide.
It is happening under our very nose, even in this list, time to time people emerge from nowhere and try discrediting what zero does, and try distracting the focus. This is what American's are mostly good at, discrediting fellow Americans, shooting at the bush when the rabbit is right in front.
Instead, try to save a mile on a gallon of fuel, with the knowledge we already have, that is how we can CONTRIBUTE.
Check autos432 on youtube, some effort to the good cause with the knowledge he acquire from the forum. This is the spirit we all should have. Do something before talking.
Master Nicola Tesla and Stanley Meyer tried to. Just they didnt know where to put the meter on their invention. Anything free for the people isnt exactly allowed.
His Honda did not increase mpg nor his Toyota. 2 mpg gain? Give me a break, after months spent in the garage. Stanley Meyer resonance?
He said very elusive. Resonance is the key. Why everybody is forgetting about step up coils, charging coils, pulse train, collapsing magnetic field, bifilar winding !?
More plates, more electrolyte, more amps, more nothing...Maybe you all should listen what Stan had to say.
It's the turtle which wins the race, not the rabbit; so U keep on doing what U are doing. I am looking forward to seeing the results of the follow on possible options which U purposed for the EM Hybrid VSPB HHO cell. There are possibilities which U may uncover that none of us have attempted before, or possibly identify that it is a complete waste of time. By U doing these experiments and sharing the results with us all; we all benefit.
Has anyone thought of that Zero is an gov. MIB set to confuse you and set you back in your way to get the results?
I mean with all that stuff that he is making, all neat, expensive looking and time consuming to put it together, he hasn't achieved any groundbreaking results.
I beg to differ. His cells, and the way he presents them are awesomely good. Even if he doesn't get ground breaking results himself, he teaches it in such a way that others can replicate and prove it to themselves. If you were take his cell and put it in a different vehicle, I'm sure you'll see better MPG gain - I think he's fighting against the car's computer. There is also the fact that he is honest. Others claiming to have 60% mileage improvements are usually liars, wanting you to spend money
There are so many comments coming so fast they are getting placed out of order.
I think uneven gas production has been my problem all along. I believe wy new PWM is going to help tremendously. A new test chamber is under construction. The EM hybrid experiments are being moved to a smaller set of plates so that I can get the VSPB cell back into the Toyota for more mileage testing immediately.
Yes, I think they're out of order on the main page. On the "view all comments" page they're in order, but there's so many you'll get lost! hehe. Anyway, just defending your honour here mate - unless you really are a government MIB?... LOL
And for the record, I do think you have ground breaking results and methods, which is plainly obvious by your 20 million subscribers or whatever it's up to now ;)
Good on ya, and thanks for all the advice you've given to me and everyone else here.
Zero, Have you ever measured the capacitance of any of your cells with just tap water, no electrolyte? I am trying to design a test circuit at resonance. Either of your plate stack or tubes??? I need a cap value to mess with. Thanks
OK so you had +-1050uf with distiled water and 2200uf +- with bottled. Now do you think that the tubes would be higher or lower?? I would think that the tubes would be lower, my guess anyway.
well I was also watching your #60 video and you were saying that you multiple plate stack had to be tuned exactly the same. I would not think that it would matter as you are after the total capacitance value to tune your circuit. I don't know if there is something I am missing?
I'm still in the learning stages on HHO cells but here are a few things to consider based on your comments. Most AC voltmeters are intended to measure 60 Hz AC. If you are pulsing at a different frequency, the meter may read an erroneous value due to filtering effects. Pay attention to input impedance of your meter. some cheaper ones may only be 10k input impedance. If you get 20k volts thats 2 amps pulse being put into your meter.
also not that AC meters measure RMS, not peak voltage.
ZFF I need a little help.. have you tryed the stan meyer 20,000 volt 1/2 amp??? anyway I have an ignition coil im trying to hook up to my cell but cant seem to get 20,000 volts out of it have you any idea of how to do this?
No... I dont know anything about watts, I know that Volts is the speed and the amp in how much current. and that this ignition coil should send 20,volts witch is speed at less cerrent 1/2 amp.. I would like to do this test. but cant seem to get 20,000 volts out of my coil.. I think its worth a try. Dont you?
It's worth a try, yes. But you need to understand that 1/2A = 500mA. If you get 5mA peak (100W pulsed) out of an ignition coil, that's a lot. Trying to draw more than that is going to load down the secondary and prevent you from getting the voltages you're after.
*UNLESS* you can achieve something very illusive; Resonance.
Ok this is what i would like some help with. i have hooked up an inverter to the coil so that i am getting pulsed dc right? and then i have that into the cell.. The reason for this test is because i am only getting about 2 LPM off my cell with 30amp and thats not much...
How are you measuring the voltage from your coil? This is an AC voltage not DC. A simple voltmeter can not read it and it will very likely destroy the voltmeter.
yes I have measured the voltage coming from the coil. and i thought it would blow the fuse kinda wish it would, but i was only getting 500 to 2000 volts not the 20,000 i wanted and as soon as i hook it to the cell (stainless) it dropes to 0 witch mean im doing something wrong. has anyone ever tryed this?
Just some info I have come across, Using a couple of peltier modules attached to the car radiator converting heat to electricity would provide much more available voltage and amperage to your system when the car is warmed up, I believe there is a potential to more than double the power.
Z's nomenclature for Vertical cell Series Plate Brute force design, if I remember correctly from the video attempting to establish a set of standardized terms for these units.
I am thinking how to move the produced gas and have remembered the magnetohydrodynamics system able to move a object in the sea water.
The principle is the Right Hand Rule. The current configuration of your cell would not allow it but, an outside impulsated field could probably move the bubbles and make fast the detachment from the plaques (shaker effect). I'm looking forward about your result. Great job, Z.
ClearChoice1, I will take the plates and do the best I can. I'm not as smart as Z. I will not be posting here anymore. You will not pay shipping. I would like the plates.
OMG Crib, don't go away! As I was riding a horse I got to thinking. With your experience with a Klystron and stuff wouldn't that be useful to (a)excite the water molecule to a higher level. (b) excite the HHO to a higher level. (c) Ionize and align the water molecule so you could pull on it more effectivly with the electrolysis??? These thought's came to me as I was thinking of Meyers Laser Injection Resonant Cavity.
You know, guys, I appreciate your enthusiasm. I do. But this comments area really is not intended to serve well as a forum. Threads get scrambled and pushed off the front page before anyone can see them. I respectfully ask that you pick up the discussion on a HHO dedicated forum.
CC1, I appreciate the offer but will pass.
Good luck to all on your HHO builds. Be sure to post your videos of the working units!
If I am thinking this right, when the current cancels each other out at the time that the resistance equals then it passes through the resistor whether that be the step-up transformer or the water in the cell.
I think the question is for myself. The electrolyte is always a resistor or whether the fluid be air or water. In a cap the dielectric breaks at a certain point. A cell with elyte has a lower resistance. You ,sled are going for the high resistance model and low current. It's amazing how much current you can pass through a .001 uF cap so I can't deny Meyer
see the one thing about the low resistance is that whenever you pass a current through it you are wasting energy in heat. The elecrtolyte as we know lowers the resitance of the water. So YES with brute force you get a lot of production but nothing else works with it as far as Meyer's deal.
oh boy, OK. L1 is the "resonant charging choke" C= your cell. you hook the two in parallel instead of series and this forms a parallel resonant circuit. The idea here is that at resonance the current is 180deg out of phase and cancels each other out. Then all the voltage goes to work on the h20.
I don't know if I made this better or worse for you? I have not had time to think it all the way through though. give me a minute. LOL
Zero, I have another idea. I have not thought this through all the way though. If you have a parallel resonance circuit with the inductor parallel to the cell when you hit resonance the current going through the inductor cancels out the current going through the cell because it is 180 degrees out of phase. But it must be at resonance and the L and C reactance MUST be equal????
thanks for the clarity on this, why not go for total power instead of a fuel supplement. i'm thinking a cooling radiator and that flow jetted through the plates.possibly better than convection. 24 volt, 120 amp alternator for power. the bed of my pickup should hold a big enough cell or enough of them to completely power it. just my thoughts so far. great work!
From what I understand , it is mechanical friction of the water molecules changing position from north to south at a very rapid rate.Whether it's mechanical heat or Magnetic induced heat I have no clue. Ask one of the other fart smellers.
I think that it is 1500 watts of 2.4 gigHZ power (resonance of water by the way) also the frequency of the cordless phone that we all used to hold 3/4 of an inch from our brain. Anyway that is vibrating the water molecules causing friction and therefore heating whatever has h2o in its path. That is why my brain is still OK, I electrolysed all the h2o from it with my HV experiments. LOL
I cant wait to get a camcorder. I have an idea someone needs to try. I'm thinking outside the box here. You take stainless screen disks about 1/2" dia. You need about 100 of them. Align them in a 1/2" pvc pipe. Each screen is separated about .005" apart. Apply the old +-+-+- setup. Mount vertical on firewall of car. Install a dripper inline like a I.V. Install unit inline on a vacume hose. Add 36 volts (three batts).. All sealed system. What do you think? I have the tools to make.. No time!
Bass, I wish that I could find it again. I just saw someone that tried it here on you tube. His was with SS Screen, looked like 3" PVC and placed it like you said. The original problem was getting the bubbles through the screen as they rise. So he did hook it up to a vacuum and I don't think that he had much luck if I remember right.
yes more or less that is the easiest way to begin to look at it. Man I could not post for a minute I was going through withdrawals and a panic attack, lol. What happened?
A draw back to useing urea ( PEE ) for the HHO is it may just actually eat the edges of the stainless steel plates slowly .so some of my research is showing .not sure if anyone out there has tryed this .it seemed to be cleaning my plates but the smell is naste .it really was doing some cleaning .but it seems that its eating up the edges as i said...and the foam gets with 2 inches of pee produces 4 inches of foam.use a screen and you can retreve the hydrogen fom the bubbles.but not a good idea.
MyJROBERT 8 months ago
I love everything about this, except for the fact that you don't show: a) how to build it b) how you hooked it up electrically (positive & negative or positive, negative, and neutral?) c) how much Hydrogen is produced?
Also this is a classroom of graduate students. This is You Tube. Maybe I don't represent the majority, which I think is not the case, but I need instructions, not a diatribe about Ohms. This looks really cool, but it will never take off b/c nobody can follow it.
GamersMark 10 months ago
@GamersMark Thank you for watching but did it ever occur to you that maybe, JUST MAYBE, I did not pursue this build besides throwing together a concept of what I wanted to do because I lacked the time and the funds to take it any further? If I had something to show, I would have shown it. Period.
ZeroFossilFuel 10 months ago
this guy is more of a talker.. half the crap he said has nothing to do with making hho. the crap he talked more of was ohms law. ohms law is not going to help you in this matter.you have a better chance to make more hho if you knew more about metals . and the diff types of stainless.. your a dumbass...
darrellfrederick 1 year ago
WOW this guy has some Knowlege of science, not your average HHO tinkerer
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henrykay01 1 year ago
I like the look of this!!! Are you still working on it.
I have been working on the same sort of thing.
I am making a cell that is self resonating, as if it was a musical instrument. The electrodes will be tuned equaily and allowed to sing freely. I'm kind of thinking if I can match it with some kind of frequency pluse it would amplitude. LIke a electric guitar.
13.56mhz is a pretty high pitched note...
raphenia1 2 years ago
The form it's taking looks much different but yes, I am still working in this direction.
ZeroFossilFuel 2 years ago
It would sure be wonderful if you could somehow use an HiDef camera and upload your videos in HD. It would be much easier to see what you have going on.
By the way, thank you so much for your uploads. It's very informative and fascinating to watch your experiments. I would like to get to the point where I can generate my own HHO gas and finally remove myself from the Fossil Fuel market.
Cheers!
graceoverall 2 years ago
I have one humble request: Always show what the device can do FIRST, then tell people about it if it's VIABLE. No one want's to wait until the bitter end and have the device be a looser. All these HH0 videos should have Watts consumed, liters produced, water-chemical mixture, and perhaps footprint of design/materials. Now that would be the SCIENTIFIC way to proceed.
KarasCyborg 2 years ago
have somebody proved to make a solution of water and hydrogen peroxid and put it in to a cell and for electrods using silver plates as a catalizer?????????
If somebody prove that let my know the results !!!!!!!!!!!!!
42641 2 years ago
why is magnetic force going to do anything
Doversreturn 2 years ago
im wondering if you could recommend a video only because you have so many . i m looking for anyone that might use high voltage to do all the work needed to break down the water instead of amps. i keep checking you tube but everybody seems to be using amps to do the work and that seems to be the opposite of what stan was doing. any help is appreciated im just waiting for the day when we can get off our dependence on oil or at least the way we use it and thanks for all the work
phsharon 2 years ago
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deepmind78 2 years ago
here's your prob, stan who? Are you going to use it in a spaceship? there's a reason for it.
deepmind78 2 years ago
hey fossy, im a huge fan of ur vids.just one comment.please watch for the tone.....some of the vids wales might hear but i cant ! hahaha cheers friend keep up the work i watch ur vids at least once a week as a ref
DrSteveHolt 3 years ago
Can you explain these technology, I am new to the HHO process and i am tryin to figure out my best options, is this better than a dry cell? what else do you recommend besides the cell for a diesel application?
Thanks for the help!
hidroklear 3 years ago
why are you using just 5 plates out of 25?neutral plates doesnt make amy sense I made same cell a year ago with all 25 plates working 12 positive and 13 negative. works on regular water no electrolyte is needed also requires cooling system
mindgas 3 years ago
We bury nearly 1,000,000,000 pounds of useable fuel every day in landfills that are notorious for polluting our environment.
Nature teaches us how.
With trash a problem... we should also consider improving current uses of trash to energy, making it cleaner
Kingery4President 3 years ago
hi,I wanted to ask You why not wrap your coil around your pvc casing to keep it from being exposed to electrolyte? the field will still effect the cell and stay dry.Also, why not use 22 or 24 agw laquered wire(the kind for motor and field windinds)with smaller gauge wire You can have many hundered turns with multi taps (in affect an autotransformer)which will enable You to vary voltage up or down to the cell(maybe 2volts @ 100amps or 100volt @4amps).I want to thank You for all the info.
kcbynxus 3 years ago
A fine idea.
ZeroFossilFuel 3 years ago
It really is, I would think that the electromagnetic field your wanting to create needs to effect the solution rather than the conducting plates. I remember reading somewhere about Tesla saying it's like a teather ball, with every slap it will gain speed. So I'm taking it that he was under the assumption that by using a harmonic freq then pulsing the plates to do the "slapping". But then again I'm not extremely experienced in this field. Have any good starting points for reading material btw?
Gravity360 3 years ago
Hello all! All I can say is WOW! In the last few weeks I have been saturating my mind in HHO technonogy. I want to learn alot! This is awesome! Im a n00b 4sure... No I havent read the FAQ's yet, this may show it....
I have an idea: (uh oh!) make the plate holding side panels out of ceramic. Use a comb type tool to create the grooves. Ceramic is easy to work with and precisely shape. After firing the creamic it should be very resistant to heat damage, insulative, and cheap to make to boot!
hydro2wheel 3 years ago
Zerofossilfuel, I've really enjoyed watching your progress here and I appreciate the effort you've put forth. This magnet idea made me wonder about something. Would it be possible to add metal "dust" to the solution and use the electromagnet to agitate so it doesn't settle? Would that help produce more hydrogen in the electrolyzer by creating better conductivity, or perhaps creating new arcs to bust the hydrogen loose? Just wondered what you would think of that. Thanks again.
mangyscavenger 3 years ago
Zero,
Interestingly, as I see your VSPB develop, I cannot help but see a similarity between your design and Mad Stu's design where both of you seem to evolve toward what MagDrive has already doing. If so, and if heat would ever be a significant issue with you, how about creating the cell in such a way that the individual stainless steel plates extend through the wall to the outside where this would behave like heat sink.
lukeoid153 3 years ago
To you and to all HHO generator enthusiast/sellers:
How many Amps/Watts does your in car generator use?
My guess, 2 Amps at 14 Bolts or 28 Watts.
Remember 746 Watts is needed to produce 1HP (ONE HORSEPOWER).
Does the HHO output produce more Watts when burned in the engine than the Watts consumed in your HHO generator?
If the answer is yes, congratulations! You have just invented perpetual motion!
Boyntonstu 3 years ago
im awfully sorry im not as intelegent as you guys but does this mean we can still have cars with trubos and such like that will run off hydrogen ??
02phill 3 years ago
yes, of course!
abraxaspad 3 years ago
The warp field generated by a coil is twisted in on itself and not very useful for propulsion of ions. I would try placing the cell near the edge of a very large square coil or magnet so as to test the proximate effect of unidirectional warp.
themanyone 3 years ago
Thank you, Mr. Spock. ;-)
ZeroFossilFuel 3 years ago
has anyone reserved the word warp narcells yet ;)?
UnityEnergy 3 years ago
Im experimenting in two different cell connections ,one with 2 plates + , - and the other is using 1 neutral plates - + - .These ss plates have identical shape and sizes.Now the two cells were supplied with same voltage and current say 10amps at 12vdc and i measure the individual output gas production. Each cell consumes 120watts and has almost the same amount of hho gas production. I verified this many times already and yet the same results.
shiba72 3 years ago
i susggest ..
high frequency alternating current through with a centre tap at with difference polarity winding and at vertical winding instead of now horiz.
molecule move horiz. parallel with mag. feild looks more fun...
cllow2020 3 years ago
Alternating Current.
Have you tried alternating current through the cell?
UnityEnergy 3 years ago
Yes. It's ineffective.
ZeroFossilFuel 3 years ago
What did you use as an AC power supply? V/I/hertz?
maxsterling2004 3 years ago
There is a motor cycle out which uses a hydrogen fuel cell. I didnt much think about how it works, except they said it was electric and needed charging. I was in large Fuel Cell modules.
But I wonder if it has a battery built into the cell, which produces the HHO on demand with current regulators etc. As it does not use Gasoline, and the output was water.
Consider NO GAS, and electricity to the fuel cell as the way of the future?
Some ideas for ya. ;)
UnityEnergy 3 years ago
im currently working on a NO-GAS version of the HHO for a 4 cylender toyota pickup, ill be using something similar to this very efficient design. its basically an hho-elec plug in hybrid.... going to take ALOT of work though..
ItsAPilotThing 3 years ago
In Australia we have Petrol where u call it Gasoline. We have a GAS fuel called LPG, Liquid Petroleum Gas.
So Im reckoning HHO into a LPG fitting, I dont know if you call that propane?
Though the idea of fuel injection system seems good too. Perhaps a do it yourself jet using the hollow needles from syringes? Some ideas Im running around with. The other side is a petrol 850W generator they sell for just over $119 on special. I am still thinking resonance is the way to go to get extra HHO.
UnityEnergy 3 years ago
Thank you very much, your faq is very helpful and instead of giving me a number of plates, you taught me what each neutral plate stands for. Thank you.
csjavik 3 years ago
I have been following your work for quite some time. I'm curious to know if i've missed a video. I've watched all of them many times as far as I know and I know you don't like to share information with people who are not motivated to search for it on their own, but i'm unable to find the video that describes your plate stack specifically how many plates etc. If you could help me there, i'd be grateful. I wish you the best and am great success!
csjavik 3 years ago
I forget where I mention it but you'll find it in the FAQ section at my web site alt-nrg*org.
ZeroFossilFuel 3 years ago
Question: Where is the energy coming from which enables the engine to use less fuel? I've read elsewhere people think it's making the combustion of gasoline more efficient, are they right? Also, is HHO an actual molecule or is it referring to the mixture of different ratios of H2 and O2? An encyclopedia that shall not be named makes no mention of a particular molecule called oxyhydrogen.
asong1130 3 years ago
according to leading auto manufactures the best efficient ICE is less than 20% fuel efficient. So a big 80% is go wasted. A considerable amount goes as unburnt fuel, carbon, CO, and myriads of other substances, which could otherwise have prevented with a perfect combustion.
1) Making the combustion efficient by the introduction of Hydrogen itself saves some
2) Hydrogen burning as a fuel saves some
This two alone are enough to explain the claimed efficiency scientifically.
kaveendra 3 years ago
Discover AirCar in youtube and let me know what you think about it please. Also discover SolKav
Ice rinks that I think is the white mirrors of Sir. Arthur C. Clarke in Odyssey 3001.
Minuvash 3 years ago
To all naysayers, dont distract Z.
It is good that he is doing this experiments, what's good about Z is he always share the mistakes so that we wont repeat it again.
Unlike you bigheads who thinks you know everything, but all you got are old theories from your old schools.
Go somewhere else and do something useful.
bennytan777 3 years ago
Who are you talking about???
slider1860 3 years ago
Relax. He's not pointing at you.
ZeroFossilFuel 3 years ago
Sorry bud.. I ment have you ever tryed Paper thin spacing? I am waiting 2 day every time I glue one thing this time to make this cell perfect. My hope is more gas as always...
Hope to see a new video soon I respect what you are doing for us all!
AudiMoney 3 years ago
Will it work on cars.
khrisinfo 3 years ago
Old theories from old school? At least some of us have some theory that is proven and not made up non-sense!
valveman12 3 years ago
Well, Mr. Parker, would you care to elaborate?
ZeroFossilFuel 3 years ago
My comment was not directed at you Zero. It was directed at the stupid bighead old school comment. I wrote it because I was tired of all these people who have no idea what they are talking about. I probably should have no commented. I guess I took it a little personally having spent 12 years in University. My old school thinking as someone may call it is sound and based on proof. I do however remind myself to keep an open mind.
Keep experimenting and have fun.
valveman12 3 years ago
Ok Zero it time to start the next cell here we go with paper thin spacing..
AudiMoney 3 years ago
I agree but only to a point. There is a practical limit where you begin to restrict the flow. Water that doesn't move between the plates will boil rather than disassociate.
ZeroFossilFuel 3 years ago
have you ever tryed it?
AudiMoney 3 years ago
Hi Z,
I hope you are doing great, we havent heared from you since your last video, and what's the outcome.
Hope all is well.
bennytan777 3 years ago
Yes, a bit of a long pause from last video. I am sure he is very busy.
kaveendra 3 years ago
I have a new video to upload but it contains images in a new opening that I'm researching copyright ownership on first.
ZeroFossilFuel 3 years ago
cool, looking forward to it.
slider1860 3 years ago
Coming.
ZeroFossilFuel 3 years ago
I THINK I GOT IT sort of. resonant step charge to a test 100uf cap instead of cell. in the kv range at +- 11Khz some adjusting to do, but it works. I need from someone the capacitance value and resistance value of a "tube" cell in "tap" water so I can continue testing those values.. I think it is getting there.
slider1860 3 years ago
Use the formula {C = Q/V}
capacitance (C)
Charge (Q)= current(I)*amount of time (t)
ot I*t and V = the applied voltage
Example: 20amps per second = 20 coulombs (Q)
If the applied voltage is 15V then the amount of capacitance would be
20amps/15volts = 1.33 Farads
jcndizo 3 years ago
Actually I was looking for those parameters of someone else's cell so I can test this circuit and try to make it work with those values.
Thanks
slider1860 3 years ago
My understanding is the water capacitor formed by the tube arrangement is not quite similar to a standard capacitor. It cannot simply replace by a resistance and capacitance. Even a tiny bit of impurities in the water (like electrolytes etc.) let pass electrons between electrodes, which obviously differers this from a standard capacitor. My suggestion is, just build a small one cell setup either two concentric tubular arrangement or two plates parallel arrangement for doing local testing.
kaveendra 3 years ago
and this I may have to do. Yes there are so many variables I know. I did not know what ball park even the value was in. I am thinking in the 1000uf range or better.
Thanks
slider1860 3 years ago
YOU ARE GETTING TOO CLOSE, STOP THAT!
GBS1043 3 years ago
The resonate Hz of H2O is between
(10 to 11)Mhz. I don't believe you need the resonate Hz of the tube itself.
jcndizo 3 years ago
I guess my first theory is to duplicate Meyer's "electronics" which I think that I got working in the way that he did. But this was in a test circuit without an actual WFC. I was using a 100uf cap instead of a cell. I got the resonant pulse train in the KV range at +- 11Khz. All looks good, some cleaning and tweaking to do but I wanted to do it with the same parameters of a tube cell in tap water. I hope that this makes sense...
slider1860 3 years ago
I don't think that it is imperative to resonate at the frequency of h2o but this may help also. Meyer never referred to that but that is something to try in the future. Right now the process to get this working with resonance, back EMF, HV and minimal current.
slider1860 3 years ago
If you connect multimeter (on capacitance range) across the cell, the reading on DMO fluctuates violently and cannot get a stable reading. I have done this myself on my single tube arrangement. Some sophisticated Capacitance meter may be able to give some legible reading but surly not a general purpose digital multimeter.
kaveendra 3 years ago
Yeah, I guess I was hoping that someone had a capacitance meter and they at one time checked the value of the cell. I may have to go with surface area, gap and dielectric constant and figure it roughly myself. I was hoping for a real life practical value.
slider1860 3 years ago
This is also going to be a problem with the capacitance value of the cell is so dynamically ever changing that it will be hard to keep the circuit in resonance. Some sensing PLL circuit is in order after this.
slider1860 3 years ago
Schematics are already on the drawing board for an oscillator that tracks the fluctuating resonant point in real time of a tank circuit in which the WFC is part of the tank circuit.
ZeroFossilFuel 3 years ago
I am really eager to see the schematics. I found it extremely difficult to design automatic resonance tracking on this setup. I am keen to do a simulation on your tracking circuit.
kaveendra 3 years ago
kaveendra, What are you using for a sim program? Spice, Tina??
slider1860 3 years ago
Never mind, i just saw the answer on the next video. "spice"
slider1860 3 years ago
I have moved to Zero's new video and missed your message, sorry.
Well, I was using both, but now have the exclusive access to Proteus. Anyway it is also a kind of SPICE simulation.
kaveendra 3 years ago
please tell me this in your coil is + and -
tuching each other
ankiedo 3 years ago
kaveendra- i agree with you. makes you wonder what what mental67's line of work is.
brassard95 3 years ago
There are many forums which discusses Tesla Technologies and Stanley Meyer's WFC. If you want that path to follow, just join those.
This is Zero's video diary and we watch what he does. It does not mean Zero is the officially appointed advocate to preach on harnessing gas from water. whether it is right or wrong, zero is doing his own research and he has so kindly publishes them for public review.
kaveendra 3 years ago
We, as spectators watch Meyer and other forums too, not just Zero's.
Mental67 is either new to internet forums or grossly confused.
kaveendra 3 years ago
And for all the Tesla and Meyer forum fans, has ANY of them given birth to a unit that has undergone peer review that produces enough HHO to run a ICE exclusively with power to spare to do other work?
Name one if you can. Please. Just one.
ZeroFossilFuel 3 years ago
Hi Zero!I'm rather new to the forum, in fact any forum.I also confess that I've looked closely at the data from only two forums, yours and another. What I find so impressive about you documentation, is that you document what you are doing; how you did it, and your results. This is something that is important to everyone. Other forums should be run so well.
tgharris3546 3 years ago
Well not even sure that Tesla nor Meyer has gone under peer review? not sure. But I can tell you one thing that IF you even give an idea about OU in peer review that it will not go to well. lol
slider1860 3 years ago
I'M COUNTING ON IT!!!
ZeroFossilFuel 3 years ago
There is no device which demonstrate self sustainability in the world at current time to be peer reviewed for that matter.
Anyway specially Stanley Meyer has given us insight to things such as pulsing DC across electrodes in electrolysis, high voltage and low amperage, exceeding Faraday's assessments on gas production etc.
Producing even small amount of gas and try making more MPG reducing exhaust smoke is surly beneficial to all of us, eventhough without reaching OU.
kaveendra 3 years ago
Pentone's GEET device is heavily replicated and used in France, especially in the agricultural sector. As long as you don't run modified vehicle on public roads (thousands of farm acres to drive along for them), you can do anything to your vehicle within current legal framework in most of the countries. They run 20% gasoline/diesel and 80% water with no smoke. We in US put the inventor in a mental hospital and try our best to discredit his achievements. Who should be in the hospital, you decide.
kaveendra 3 years ago
It is happening under our very nose, even in this list, time to time people emerge from nowhere and try discrediting what zero does, and try distracting the focus. This is what American's are mostly good at, discrediting fellow Americans, shooting at the bush when the rabbit is right in front.
Instead, try to save a mile on a gallon of fuel, with the knowledge we already have, that is how we can CONTRIBUTE.
kaveendra 3 years ago
Check autos432 on youtube, some effort to the good cause with the knowledge he acquire from the forum. This is the spirit we all should have. Do something before talking.
kaveendra 3 years ago
Master Nicola Tesla and Stanley Meyer tried to. Just they didnt know where to put the meter on their invention. Anything free for the people isnt exactly allowed.
mental67 3 years ago
"They" I ment the gov.
mental67 3 years ago
His Honda did not increase mpg nor his Toyota. 2 mpg gain? Give me a break, after months spent in the garage. Stanley Meyer resonance?
He said very elusive. Resonance is the key. Why everybody is forgetting about step up coils, charging coils, pulse train, collapsing magnetic field, bifilar winding !?
More plates, more electrolyte, more amps, more nothing...Maybe you all should listen what Stan had to say.
Or maybe I am just very wrong...
mental67 3 years ago
Wow. You make that sound SO simple. Please, Master Yoda, show us how to harness the Force.
ZeroFossilFuel 3 years ago
Z: Always remember.....
It's the turtle which wins the race, not the rabbit; so U keep on doing what U are doing. I am looking forward to seeing the results of the follow on possible options which U purposed for the EM Hybrid VSPB HHO cell. There are possibilities which U may uncover that none of us have attempted before, or possibly identify that it is a complete waste of time. By U doing these experiments and sharing the results with us all; we all benefit.
Low V + High I = Zero.
Hydro
HydroRamPac 3 years ago
read some of my earlier posts, I think that I was saying basically the same thing.
slider1860 3 years ago
I should add "humbly" IMHO
slider1860 3 years ago
Has anyone thought of that Zero is an gov. MIB set to confuse you and set you back in your way to get the results?
I mean with all that stuff that he is making, all neat, expensive looking and time consuming to put it together, he hasn't achieved any groundbreaking results.
mental67 3 years ago
I beg to differ. His cells, and the way he presents them are awesomely good. Even if he doesn't get ground breaking results himself, he teaches it in such a way that others can replicate and prove it to themselves. If you were take his cell and put it in a different vehicle, I'm sure you'll see better MPG gain - I think he's fighting against the car's computer. There is also the fact that he is honest. Others claiming to have 60% mileage improvements are usually liars, wanting you to spend money
MadStu1978 3 years ago
There are so many comments coming so fast they are getting placed out of order.
I think uneven gas production has been my problem all along. I believe wy new PWM is going to help tremendously. A new test chamber is under construction. The EM hybrid experiments are being moved to a smaller set of plates so that I can get the VSPB cell back into the Toyota for more mileage testing immediately.
ZeroFossilFuel 3 years ago
Yes, I think they're out of order on the main page. On the "view all comments" page they're in order, but there's so many you'll get lost! hehe. Anyway, just defending your honour here mate - unless you really are a government MIB?... LOL
And for the record, I do think you have ground breaking results and methods, which is plainly obvious by your 20 million subscribers or whatever it's up to now ;)
Good on ya, and thanks for all the advice you've given to me and everyone else here.
MadStu1978 3 years ago
Zero, Have you ever measured the capacitance of any of your cells with just tap water, no electrolyte? I am trying to design a test circuit at resonance. Either of your plate stack or tubes??? I need a cap value to mess with. Thanks
slider1860 3 years ago
Or has anyone??
slider1860 3 years ago
No but you can be sure it will be higher than the distilled I measured in video #61 & 62.
ZeroFossilFuel 3 years ago
OK so you had +-1050uf with distiled water and 2200uf +- with bottled. Now do you think that the tubes would be higher or lower?? I would think that the tubes would be lower, my guess anyway.
slider1860 3 years ago
well I was also watching your #60 video and you were saying that you multiple plate stack had to be tuned exactly the same. I would not think that it would matter as you are after the total capacitance value to tune your circuit. I don't know if there is something I am missing?
slider1860 3 years ago
I'm still in the learning stages on HHO cells but here are a few things to consider based on your comments. Most AC voltmeters are intended to measure 60 Hz AC. If you are pulsing at a different frequency, the meter may read an erroneous value due to filtering effects. Pay attention to input impedance of your meter. some cheaper ones may only be 10k input impedance. If you get 20k volts thats 2 amps pulse being put into your meter.
also not that AC meters measure RMS, not peak voltage.
y2kdon1 3 years ago
ZFF I need a little help.. have you tryed the stan meyer 20,000 volt 1/2 amp??? anyway I have an ignition coil im trying to hook up to my cell but cant seem to get 20,000 volts out of it have you any idea of how to do this?
AudiMoney 3 years ago
You *DO* realize that 20,000 volts at 1/2 amp is 10,000 watts, right?
ZeroFossilFuel 3 years ago
No... I dont know anything about watts, I know that Volts is the speed and the amp in how much current. and that this ignition coil should send 20,volts witch is speed at less cerrent 1/2 amp.. I would like to do this test. but cant seem to get 20,000 volts out of my coil.. I think its worth a try. Dont you?
AudiMoney 3 years ago
It's worth a try, yes. But you need to understand that 1/2A = 500mA. If you get 5mA peak (100W pulsed) out of an ignition coil, that's a lot. Trying to draw more than that is going to load down the secondary and prevent you from getting the voltages you're after.
*UNLESS* you can achieve something very illusive; Resonance.
ZeroFossilFuel 3 years ago
Ok this is what i would like some help with. i have hooked up an inverter to the coil so that i am getting pulsed dc right? and then i have that into the cell.. The reason for this test is because i am only getting about 2 LPM off my cell with 30amp and thats not much...
AudiMoney 3 years ago
Audi
How are you measuring the voltage from your coil? This is an AC voltage not DC. A simple voltmeter can not read it and it will very likely destroy the voltmeter.
y2kdon1 3 years ago
yes I have measured the voltage coming from the coil. and i thought it would blow the fuse kinda wish it would, but i was only getting 500 to 2000 volts not the 20,000 i wanted and as soon as i hook it to the cell (stainless) it dropes to 0 witch mean im doing something wrong. has anyone ever tryed this?
AudiMoney 3 years ago
ZFF I've been studying your videos. Thanks for all the hard work. I have a few questions for you.
1. How do you know how much HHO you need? I assume it is dependent somehow on engine size.
2. Is the PWM necessary? or just a way to set a maximum current? There may be simpler ways.
3. Do you vary production rate according to engine speed?
seriously looking at building my own system. I appreciate any comment you have.
Thanks
Donny
y2kdon1 3 years ago
If anyone is interested, I have created a YouTube Group to serve the purpose of a forum discussion area.
youtube*com/group/zerofossilfuel
I have no idea how it works but feel free to poke around.
Z
ZeroFossilFuel 3 years ago
Just some info I have come across, Using a couple of peltier modules attached to the car radiator converting heat to electricity would provide much more available voltage and amperage to your system when the car is warmed up, I believe there is a potential to more than double the power.
regards, Craig.
shooter001 3 years ago
Sorry, but what it VSPB? What it mean?
Careica 3 years ago
Z's nomenclature for Vertical cell Series Plate Brute force design, if I remember correctly from the video attempting to establish a set of standardized terms for these units.
jmer12345 3 years ago
I am thinking how to move the produced gas and have remembered the magnetohydrodynamics system able to move a object in the sea water.
The principle is the Right Hand Rule. The current configuration of your cell would not allow it but, an outside impulsated field could probably move the bubbles and make fast the detachment from the plaques (shaker effect). I'm looking forward about your result. Great job, Z.
vonkwald 3 years ago
ClearChoice1, I will take the plates and do the best I can. I'm not as smart as Z. I will not be posting here anymore. You will not pay shipping. I would like the plates.
cribcat1 3 years ago
I want to thank ZeroFossillFuel for opening this back up to discuss ideas and techniques for the HHO. Thanks Z
slider1860 3 years ago
I'm going away, this is wasting time good luck brothers and sisters!
cribcat1 3 years ago
OMG Crib, don't go away! As I was riding a horse I got to thinking. With your experience with a Klystron and stuff wouldn't that be useful to (a)excite the water molecule to a higher level. (b) excite the HHO to a higher level. (c) Ionize and align the water molecule so you could pull on it more effectivly with the electrolysis??? These thought's came to me as I was thinking of Meyers Laser Injection Resonant Cavity.
Anyway, just a thought.
slider1860 3 years ago
You know, guys, I appreciate your enthusiasm. I do. But this comments area really is not intended to serve well as a forum. Threads get scrambled and pushed off the front page before anyone can see them. I respectfully ask that you pick up the discussion on a HHO dedicated forum.
CC1, I appreciate the offer but will pass.
Good luck to all on your HHO builds. Be sure to post your videos of the working units!
Z
ZeroFossilFuel 3 years ago
Okay. Comments reopened. Don't expect too much participation from me but as long as you keep it cordial, by all means have a ball.
ZeroFossilFuel 3 years ago
I'm referring to the resistor ball around the cell plates or electrolyte. When this conducts it creates flux. Interesting.
cribcat1 3 years ago
If I am thinking this right, when the current cancels each other out at the time that the resistance equals then it passes through the resistor whether that be the step-up transformer or the water in the cell.
slider1860 3 years ago
so i guess you would still want a higher resistance in the water. a little more thinking through. Wow crib, thanks.
slider1860 3 years ago
We will get it yet. I hope Zero is working on all this.
slider1860 3 years ago
i meant the reactance not resistance.
slider1860 3 years ago
I think the question is for myself. The electrolyte is always a resistor or whether the fluid be air or water. In a cap the dielectric breaks at a certain point. A cell with elyte has a lower resistance. You ,sled are going for the high resistance model and low current. It's amazing how much current you can pass through a .001 uF cap so I can't deny Meyer
cribcat1 3 years ago
see the one thing about the low resistance is that whenever you pass a current through it you are wasting energy in heat. The elecrtolyte as we know lowers the resitance of the water. So YES with brute force you get a lot of production but nothing else works with it as far as Meyer's deal.
slider1860 3 years ago
Those were posted for sled
cribcat1 3 years ago
How do you measure current or fields through an electrolyte
cribcat1 3 years ago
you measure it with an ampmeter in series of the cell.
slider1860 3 years ago
not sure if this is what you meant
slider1860 3 years ago
Where is the outer conductor and in what configuration? // or =
cribcat1 3 years ago
L1 is Parallel to the Cell. I think that is what you are asking? or what do you mean by the outer conductor?
slider1860 3 years ago
I think also with this design it does not matter if you uses an electrolyte were as the HV series L/C you don't want to.
slider1860 3 years ago
L1 vs the plates, the outer winding and how do perpendicular fields react?
cribcat1 3 years ago
oh boy, OK. L1 is the "resonant charging choke" C= your cell. you hook the two in parallel instead of series and this forms a parallel resonant circuit. The idea here is that at resonance the current is 180deg out of phase and cancels each other out. Then all the voltage goes to work on the h20.
I don't know if I made this better or worse for you? I have not had time to think it all the way through though. give me a minute. LOL
slider1860 3 years ago
Parallel on which axis? vert, horiz, under, over or sideways for lack of a better term?
cribcat1 3 years ago
Zero, I have another idea. I have not thought this through all the way though. If you have a parallel resonance circuit with the inductor parallel to the cell when you hit resonance the current going through the inductor cancels out the current going through the cell because it is 180 degrees out of phase. But it must be at resonance and the L and C reactance MUST be equal????
slider1860 3 years ago
thanks for the clarity on this, why not go for total power instead of a fuel supplement. i'm thinking a cooling radiator and that flow jetted through the plates.possibly better than convection. 24 volt, 120 amp alternator for power. the bed of my pickup should hold a big enough cell or enough of them to completely power it. just my thoughts so far. great work!
hideandwatch55 3 years ago
Z please oust this rectum plate
cribcat1 3 years ago
sorry that was mean, I did not expect you to buy that one!!! Thanks sled If your was long enough I'd tell you to yourself You fill in the blanks.
cribcat1 3 years ago
You're obviously a teenager with too much time. Go join your friend and get Barred. this is for adults. Have fun sled!
cribcat1 3 years ago
you are right, sorry. I will try to behave :-(
slider1860 3 years ago
OMG. ROFLMAO
slider1860 3 years ago
It makes me mad that no Girls are experimenting with Hydroxy... are you?
cribcat1 3 years ago
What do you mean? I am a woman!
slider1860 3 years ago
Cool You rock!!
cribcat1 3 years ago
NOT!!!!!
slider1860 3 years ago
He also has Google tamed if you type in zerofossilfuel. It's a good marketing gig.
cribcat1 3 years ago
It was added on 24 May He's building a good subscriber base or list.29k in how many days? Very smart man.
cribcat1 3 years ago
@ nearly 29K views do you think he's upset?
cribcat1 3 years ago
He'z not mad... with any luck it'll go viral
cribcat1 3 years ago
Sorry Zero, We got a little carried away with your forum while you where in the shop. Our apologies, we were all bad.:-(
slider1860 3 years ago
Wow Sled, Thats a lot to hold to your head....Are You ok?
cribcat1 3 years ago
ROTFLMAO
slider1860 3 years ago
Sea Bass go brother. start the process. I have had the best of luck with wire.
cribcat1 3 years ago
From what I understand , it is mechanical friction of the water molecules changing position from north to south at a very rapid rate.Whether it's mechanical heat or Magnetic induced heat I have no clue. Ask one of the other fart smellers.
cribcat1 3 years ago
I think that it is 1500 watts of 2.4 gigHZ power (resonance of water by the way) also the frequency of the cordless phone that we all used to hold 3/4 of an inch from our brain. Anyway that is vibrating the water molecules causing friction and therefore heating whatever has h2o in its path. That is why my brain is still OK, I electrolysed all the h2o from it with my HV experiments. LOL
slider1860 3 years ago
Why N/S and not E/W doesn't it depend on what way your microwave and steak is facing???
slider1860 3 years ago
Slider it must be time for us to get some sleep. Hi/Ho Hi/Ho off to bed I go.
Enjoyed it. Chat with u tomorrow.
Hydro
HydroRamPac 3 years ago
good night
slider1860 3 years ago
I cant wait to get a camcorder. I have an idea someone needs to try. I'm thinking outside the box here. You take stainless screen disks about 1/2" dia. You need about 100 of them. Align them in a 1/2" pvc pipe. Each screen is separated about .005" apart. Apply the old +-+-+- setup. Mount vertical on firewall of car. Install a dripper inline like a I.V. Install unit inline on a vacume hose. Add 36 volts (three batts).. All sealed system. What do you think? I have the tools to make.. No time!
bass24782 3 years ago
Bass, I wish that I could find it again. I just saw someone that tried it here on you tube. His was with SS Screen, looked like 3" PVC and placed it like you said. The original problem was getting the bubbles through the screen as they rise. So he did hook it up to a vacuum and I don't think that he had much luck if I remember right.
slider1860 3 years ago
The electron spins are what heat the stuff in the microwave oven (am I wrong)?
cribcat1 3 years ago
It is the microwaves passing through the material causing the water molecules to vibrate which actually steams the material from within.
HydroRamPac 3 years ago
oohhh sting. hmmmmm. things must be spinning now. lol
slider1860 3 years ago
Isn't the cell like a cap? Or a magnetron. Fluid relates to air and water.
cribcat1 3 years ago
yes more or less that is the easiest way to begin to look at it. Man I could not post for a minute I was going through withdrawals and a panic attack, lol. What happened?
slider1860 3 years ago
Idiocy runs in my family, but it leads to Geniousity eventually. Just waiting for my turn.
cribcat1 3 years ago
Yep, I'm an idiot at times. Sorry
cribcat1 3 years ago