Giuliani: "Islamic Terrorism" is a WORD

[Garbanzo884]

All it proves is that Democrats are pansies, wimps, and stupid. Note that well over 99% of terror actions are done by followers of Moe, the fake prophet ssip be upon him.

[theduder12]

Yeah there arn't Islamic Terrorist, It must have been someone else who bombed the U.S. Embassy in Yemen this morning.

[theduder12]

Jackjes, your like most democrats. Notice your the only one on this calling people idiots, and stupid. Your very tolerant! Also if your so sick of argueing your side then befor you start name calling then stop talking about the subject and move on. A good debater would not sling names out and personaly attack someone.

[nsi331]

Are you kidding me? Have you read what courag1 wrote?

Besides, you and courag1 both ARE idiots if you actually believe what Republicans try to make you fear. All they do is try to scare you into voting for them. "Vote for me, I'll protect you from the big bad Middle East, Democrats won't." Have you noticed that they rarely ever talk about the economy? They only try to scare us. The U.S. has been falsely led to believe that we need to fear/destroy ALL Muslims. and it's just not right.

[theduder12]

Look at your own typing, you dont start a sentence with and! Instead of talking about spelling/ grammar errors talk about the real problems. If you havnt noticed you only get 500 characters to type. Using ( .'"?!) uses up characters. Leaving them out frees up characters allowing you to fit more in a post. Idk about you but iv been down to my last word in a post and it wont fit because im 5 characters over.

[theduder12]

Also this debate is about Islamic Terrorist it has nothing to do with the economy. SO, also like most democrats you jump all over the board. Also the US should fear the middle east. Out of all people, you should know that seen how you joined facebook on 9/11. But I guess because we haven't had an attack on US soil since then, it COULDNT possibly happen again. Oh and I forgot the ' between the n and t in couldn't.

[theduder12]

sorry not facebook, youtube

[nsi331]

...and it's spelled "you're," not "your." "Your" is possessive. It's funny though because neither you nor courag1 know how to spell or use proper grammar in typing. It makes it a bit difficult to take you intellectually serious. Not to say that you are or aren't. I don't know. It's just an observation.

[courag1]

Christians aren't making everyone Christian, it is a choice. And if you want to leave Christianity, you don't get a fatwa of death, your family doesn't honor kill you. Theo Van Gogh is dead, BTW, I suppose you know that but just ignore it because you are so "educated and brainwashed". They preach that the U.S. is the great Satan and Israel is the little Satan. First comes Saturday, then comes Sunday. First they kill the Saturday worhippers, then the Sunday ones. Obama's being sued anyway.

[jacksjes]

Islam is a choice as well. And no, I'm not Muslim... I'm a proud Christian. You are using ancient Islam to define the present. Muslim countries abolished slavery long before the U.S. did. Slavery was common back then. Everyone did it, not just Muslims, but that doesn't make it right. Very few Muslims actually practice polygyny because one has to treat all the wives the same and support them the same if they do take more than one wife. Tunisia (Muslim country) has banned polygyny.

[jacksjes]

Are you Christian?

How would you know what my political beliefs are anyways?

[theduder12]

OOOH ok well courag1 most the time its only a pin-prick. Its ok, its only a pin-pric. Come on Jacksjes, you have to admitt courag1 has some very good points. What religion has beheaded someone in the last two centuries? And do not even tell me this day in age that somthing like that is tradition. Get real, terrorist use Islam to justify their actions. Since 01 name one other group that has done that.

[courag1]

Thank you, thought I was the only one left with any sanity.

I recommend reading the Koran, a real eye opener. If you've read the Bible, this is nothing like it. It is not arranged like it at all. And it has abrogated (annulled the peaceful earlier verses so much of what it claims makes is a peaceful religion is no longer in effect). They have a doctrine called "taqqiya" or "kitman" which means you can lie anytime you think Islam will benefit from it. Islam warps rational thinking.

[jacksjes]

ok so my last comment didn't go... but this is what it said:

YOU ARE SO STUPID! I HAVE ALREADY SAID ALL THIS BEFORE. I NEVER SAID THEY HAVEN'T DONE ANY OF THOSE THINGS, IM SAYING THAT THE ENTIRE RELIGION ISN'T ABOUT TERRORISM. THERE IS A REASON WHY IT'S CALLED "EXTREMISM." I'VE BEEN STUDYING THE MIDDLE EAST FOR QUITE SOME TIME NOW, I HAVE BEEN TO THE MIDDLE EAST, I HAVE MUSLIM FRIENDS, AND GUESS WHAT? THEY'RE NOT TERRORISTS. YOU ARE JUST TOO OLD AND STUCK IN YOUR HATEFUL WAYS. GET OVER YOURSELF.

[nsi331]

Wow, what a debate I walked in on! I'm glad I joined! Sorry courag1, but you are coming off as very unintelligent. Are you just doing google searches about Islamic terrorism and copying what pops up? Reading ridiculously biased material? As stated, you cannot dismiss an entire religion because some are terrorists. The actions of terrorists are horrific, no doubt about that. But it is insane to assume that just because some are terrorists that they all are. Isn't that negative stereotyping?

[courag1]

Just because there are peaceful Muslims doesn't mean that they are respected even in their own religion they are hypocrites. Muhammad said that fighting is prescribed for them and that it may be that a thing which is bad for you is actually good for you. All Muslims on the web are complete hypocrites. They are faced with images all the time which are haram to a real Muslim. Muslims used to kill you if you owned a painting. Where do you supposed Iconoclast came from? Listent to investigateislam.

[jacksjes]

ok read my comment above. im sick of typing the same exact thing over and over and over to you people. you people are the reason why there is so much misunderstanding in the world. have you ever talked to a muslim? ever been to the middle east? ever actually studied the religion... like in a class?? i bet not.

[theduder12]

Also Jacksjes, The Terrorist Attacks that muslims have commited out weigh by a great margin all other attacks commited by a non-muslim. Yes Oaklahoma city was bad, and the VT shootings, or what ever else you could think of that wasnt associated with a middle eastern group. The fact of the matter is most terrorist attacks commited outside the muslim world at least in the US are not done in the name of that persons religion/ god.

[jacksjes]

As I stated above, just because some Muslims are terrorists doesn't mean they all are. You cannot dismiss the religion of over 1 Billion people just because some are terrorists. And a lot of non-extremist Muslim terrorists attacks in the US ARE in the name of religion - ever heard of "The Army of God" or "Lambs of Christ" or the KKK. Religion has a tendency to do these sorts of things and it's WRONG on both sides. But the fact remains that there are plenty of Muslims that are not terrorists.

[theduder12]

blew up trains in Spain, hijacked 4 airplanes and flew them into buildings, cut off Americans soldiers heads in Iraq, drag American soldiers threw the streets then hang them from bridges, and last but not least pray to their god before doing these acts then yes, Christians would be called "Christain Terrorist" by the rest of the world.

[theduder12]

Yes if day after day mass groups of so called Christians terrorized, made car bombs, blew up innocent people, use the handicapped and mentally disabled as human shields, blew holes in the sides of American ships.

[theduder12]

How is it not Islamic Terrorism when the terrorist fight in the name of Muhammad?

[dawahaddict]

there is no such thing as islamic terrorism because terrorism is unislamic

[courag1]

"But when the forbidden months are past, then fight & slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war)" Surah 9:5

"Fight them, and Allah will punish them by your hands, cover them with shame, help you (to victory) over them, heal the breasts of believers" (Surah 9:14).

"O ye who believe! Truly the Pagans are unclean; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque" (Surah 9:28).

Terror = Islam.

[dawahaddict]

you dont believe in self defense?

check out some of the verses surrounding those

so you have them in context

it should make more sense insha'Allah

[jacksjes]

You are an idiot courag1. You cannot pick and choose parts of the Qur'an. Look up verses in the Bible and you will find the same things.

Islam is a religion of peace. Think about the terrorist groups the Army of God or the Lambs of Christ, or even certain individuals such as Eric Robert Rudolph. They are all supposed to be "Christian," yet most Christians would not describe them as so. So if we apply the same rules to Christianity as Islam... Terror=Christianity.

[courag1]

Islam is a religion of pieces as we shall slices you into several. I have no problem with other religions claiming to be peaceful, they usually are. Islam? How many other faiths including Christian has beheaded anyone in the last two centuries but Islam? How about cutting hands and feet off or female genital mutilation? I cannot tolerate barbarism. You explain to the people who have died since 2001 because of Islam that they aren't dead. You say you are a Christian, tell it to God. Right!

[jacksjes]

"...slices you into several?" That doesn't make sense. Is it supposed to be a threat? To answer your question, Jews have committed acts of terrorism too... they've killed plenty of Arab civilians. It goes both ways.  Female Genital Mutilation is an old tradition not only practiced by Muslims. And it is not always the worst case scenario, oftentimes it's just a pin-prick (not to justify it, but you have to realize there are varying degrees of it).

[courag1]

How many people behead others? There are Muslim decapitations but you haven't seen any. That isn't my fault you haven't looked. You haven't looked into any of it. I've spent the last seven years doing lots of reading. But it is too dark to read where you have your head, isn't it.

[jacksjes]

I have read the Qur'an. I've written papers on it... I know how it's set up, so don't try and pretend that you are smart because you know that the surahs are arranged by length. That doesn't impress me, sorry. You know what might impress me? If you used correct grammar and punctuation...

[courag1]

The Muslims are out to conquer the world. It tells them to do that in the Koran and to cut the heads off but it also tells them to do all that Muhammad did, Muhammad told Aisha to breastfeed men in her home which is the same fatwa the famous Egyptian cleric gave so women in Egypt can work with men without their veil on or the hair covered. Do you approve this surah because if you don't you are a Muslim hypocrite. You follow the words of an idiot. Satan also cast words in the prophets mouth.

[jacksjes]

You are absolutely insane...That's all I have to say. I'm sick of arguing with hateful idiots. I feel sorry for you because you have so much hate for others... some who deserve it and many who do not. You have no logic. And for the 394230459th time... I'm not a Muslim, I don't follow the Qur'an. I never said that Islam was the true religion. I'M A CHRISTIAN. I'm against hate. I'm against terrorists and people like you that dispel hate.

[jacksjes]

*Not dispel hate, dispel understanding* that's what i meant.

Oh and I think "conquering the world" means making everyone Muslim... (like how Christians want to make everyone Christian). You can't take everything literal in any holy book. Some things don't translate correctly. Have you ever taken a course in Islamic Civilization? Have you ever met a Muslim? Or been to the Middle East?

Can't you just admit that not all Muslims are terrorists?

[courag1]

Are you a Muslim? You love them so much. Have you taken a little girl to bed? Have you a couple of wives and concubines? Do you own slaves? Do you want the world to be governed by Shar'ia law that allows all the above? Hamas supports Obama, CAIR supports Obama. Our ENEMIES support Obama. It is treason to give aid to the enemy or to plead his case in a time of war. McCain wants our military strong so we can defend ourselves. You don't.

All peaceful verses abrogated by Chapter nine, look it up.

[jacksjes]

I am a Christian, but I have many Muslim friends and I assure you, they are not terrorists. Nor do they condone, in the slightest bit, any form of terrorism. Close-minded thinking, such as yours, is what makes this world a violent and place. Yes, there are people that call themselves "Muslims" that are terrorists, but there are also "Christian" terrorists as well.

[jacksjes]

Oh & the Qur'an actually instructs Muslims to respect "People of the Book" aka Jews & Christians. Muhammad's first wife, Khadija, had Christian family. "Pagans" in the Surahs you quoted referred to the pagans in Mecca that worshipped idols, whom were neither Christian, Muslim, or Jewish. The Muslim converts in Yathrib (Medina) were at constant war with the PAGAN Meccans, so they did want to "slay the pagans." Catch my drift?

GET YOUR INTERPRETATIONS STRAIGHT AND DON'T PROMOTE FALSE STEREOTYPES.

[courag1]

Please go tell all the millions of people who are not Meccan or from Medina who the Muslims have killed, raped, butchered, that it never happened. You think that history is yours to rewrite because it does not reflect well on you?!? The Koran creates maniacs. There is a reason why terrorism is associated with the word "Muslim" and it is because of all the terror attacks. They even take credit and squabble among themselves for the fame of it. There is no truth in you or your book.

[jacksjes]

Ok obviously you are much too ignorant to have an intelligent argument with, so i will lay it out for you again...

1-Muslims aren't the only people that have committed acts of terror. Look it up. It's a fact.

2-I was not rewriting history, what I wrote IS the history. Again, look it up, it's a fact.

3-The Qur'an (NOT SPELLED WITH A K- I speak Arabic, it's a Q transliterated) creates kind people as well as maniacs, just like the Bible...

[jacksjes]

and 4-Pay attention, I already said that I'M NOT A MUSLIM... I just happen to be a well informed and tolerant Christian. You should try it sometime.

[RezaDemocrat]

Muslims are all motherfuckers, trust me!

[bluealert46]

Christians are the same too, religion just ruins lifes over and over again.

[R0663N]

Well, you don't expect a guy like HUSSEIN OBAMA to mention Islamic terrorism.

[sunni4deen]

fuck u bitch ass motherfucker

[YangPile]

Remember my friends, it's not the "right wing or republican" party thats the problem. It is always certain individuals (& groups of) that hijack a party and sway the parties values over time, slowly influencing the "average sheeple" who don't even know what the real(functional) policy used to be, or what real democracy was meant to be. It's not a religion, it's extremists within a sect of "a" religion. It's never black and white!

[Ecothearcy]

Islamofascism is a silly word. Only Christian nations have been fascist.

[philadelphiafree01]

Rudy Guiliani watch v=4IrE6FMpai8

This King of the Douchebags cannot be allowed to be President!

"A woman shall not wear man's clothing, nor shall a man put on a woman's clothing; for whoever does these things is an abomination to the LORD your God.

I guess Pat Roberston skipped bible school that day.

[samsonite1]

hes just mad because terrorists dont like cross dressers.

[durdybyrd9]

what a low life this guy is...and the funny part is that he has the same voting record and positions as hillary; then you turn around and his supporters chant the mantra "beat hillary"...you guys are ridiculous

[MementoExpose]

it's okay, but if he wants to make America vs. Islam then he's really making it a much tougher fight for himself, I mean wouldn't he rather have 1.4 BILLION PEOPLE on his side?

[raphi72]

Watch what his friends say about Islam in general: watch?v=gXOkVTJWnI4

[Kodos2J]

Islamic terrorism threatens world peace. World War 3 is brewing.

[WICSTechnology]

There are millions of crimes commited by christians everyday, should we call it

CHRISTIAN TERRORISM ?? Christians make up most of the worlds crime. Muslims make up over 50% of the worlds poor and starving. Stop your old school brainwashing fear tactics.

"Islamic terrorism" is a racist and retarded statement.

[ShamoneInTheMirror]

Thankyou! I've had enough of the bullshit fear tactics these twats use. And the simple minded weak fluff will swallow this up. They're propogating a false mentality against Muslims.

[Kodos2J]

Christians do not strap bombs to themselves and blow up innocent civilians and expect to go to Heaven. See the difference?

[WICSTechnology]

Throughout history its been the christian male that has slaughtered more humans than all religions combined. Rudy is letting all of us down with this bullshit fear tactic designed to brainwash the ignorant, sadly there are so many ignorant fools that believe this right wing garbage.

Shame on you Rudy, you are a disgrace !!

[Kodos2J]

Oh I agree that Rudy is a pathetic war monger.

[planetzion]

have you got stats for that ?

[vladrabbit]

i agree with you brother

[lnspirer]

Killing in all shapes and forms should be condemned. A suicide bombing is no worse than a laser-guided bombing. See the point?

[Kodos2J]

Yes, you are right. All killing should be condemned.

[somalisoulja87]

thats all this asshole say, islamic terrorism and in new york i did. look dick face new yorks not bagdad or the rest of the mideast bitch, so fuck you

[oratorspeaker]

go guliani say it like it is

[tombomb4a]

drunk driver = terrorist

They killed more Americans than al-Qadea at over 16,000 in 2005.

The fringe candidate Jokeliani only has 9/11 as a crutch to hold up his weak campaign, even the NYFD can't stand him.

[darito90]

New Zealand has the best leader. Other countries need leaders like her.

[oratorspeaker]

ride on rudy!

[oratorspeaker]

islam = terrorism

[tombomb4a]

Rudy = tyranny

[ihbaseball17]

RON PAUL 08' doesnt lie like Rudi!

[gematria79]

Washington,Jefferson,Adams,Ham­ilton,Madison:does anyone have any doubts what they think about NAFTA, NAU, The New World Order and open borders. Get off your asses and vote out all incumbents or if civil war must come, let it come.The future of the US is OUR RESPONSIBILITY. GOP & Dems take their bribes from the same hands.

[StopIslamoFascism]

Rudy for 08! Tells it like it is!

[hthglllkhgjg]

actually your jew controlled cross dressing drag queen puppet got no chance,

RON PAUL 08

after the election we see how much you be talking about "islamo fascism"

better move to israel

[StopIslamoFascism]

Haha, Israel committed 9/11? You're a fool, please get out of my country.

[binshade]

your country ?? LMAO your against the constitution, so how about you get out of MY country !!

Ron Paul 08 !!!

[StopIslamoFascism]

Fuck you Muslim impostor.

[hthglllkhgjg]

face it your a parasite

[hthglllkhgjg]

did i say that israel did 9/11?

wow you can read my mind

[yalg18]

r u a fuking idiot?

[athar077]

dressing like a chic is taking political correctness to extreme. Islamic terrorism ..you zipper head.... it's like saying roman catholic mobsterism, just because of some italian thugs , you dont condemn italian people or the catholic religion, come on now Mayory (giulliani) be a good girl

[JoyforJesus]

right on

[Heathy911]

Good, glad he sees the problem. Militant religious fundamentalism needs to be defeated, and right now its the ismalists that present the threat. Some of the comments show me that like so many, that they do no understand the problem

[Heathy911]

Oh and I expect my coments to get a thumbs down from all the ron paul camp and be told I'm a sheep. Ironic

[vampireatnight]

A desperate attempt to appeal to those who inherently hate muslims. Allowing hate speach is one thing; intently exercising it is another. This man will only increase voilence and hatred on our planet.

[Wyndup]

Exactly vampire...he's a fake, a fraud a puppet...yes, another one...

Ron Paul must win in 2008 for the sake of the US and the rest of the world...

[romeono1]

RON PAUL!!!!!! we love Ron Paul!!!! Go Ron Paul go go! Ron Paul will win he is the only honest person in Republican party!

[KrGsMrNKusinagi0]

lets see its not christians, its not the jews, its not the buddhists, its not ants, rats, monkeys doing all this violence

its islamic NUTS i cant believe how blind some of you are. You either hate bush so much you cant see it or your just ignorant

[dani828]

amen....no one says the truth.....

[gitmo333]

Yup...maybe it has something to do with the fact that the Islamists are pissed off with the US for building military bases in their countries(Saudi Arabia after Gulf War), overthrowing their government(Iran in 1953),

blindly protecting Israel against every UN declaration by the rest of the world criticizing Israel.....

[KungFuCrazyMan]

How come no one every said the WORD "Giuliani piece of shit, NWO douchebag"? Now that's taking political correctness to extremes.

[sargeanttree]

vote ron paul and not some soggy douche bag

[sargeanttree]

O MY FUCK i guess that sums it up :P

[tama808]

end the bull vote Ron Paul!

[Sunnyboy2000de]

yeah thats fucking right, PC sucks. There is no place on earth where dominition of PC is so strong than in western-europe.

[RamzGT]

Read the 911 Report Juliani!

... you stupid puppet...

[jammasterjayfan]

Don't forget, Canada won't be a safe haven. Giuliani won't do anything to prevent the North American Union. Gonna have to get farther away then Canada. But Don't worry there is no way he stands a chance against Hillary. Its gonna take honesty, itegerity, and a voting history to beat Hillary.

Hillary is for NAU as well, Vote Ron Paul.

[batmanthe]

He's a fucking quack

"Part of what we have to do and we haven't done right is take on that responsibility of nation-building. We created that responsibility for ourselves when we overthrew Saddam Hussein."

[Ravenmist66]

how come no one has said the "word" "rudy giuliani A NWO Terrorist?

[shaansmsm]

rudy is the best candidate

[boydamac]

Giuliani is borderline retarded. I honestly can't take 4 more years of Jon Stewart having this much fodder.

[baird007]

I know! I would hate to hear him deliver the "State of the Union" address with the lisp of his.

[jamil316]

How about this Giuliani:Terrorism

[MonzoTheSaw]

i agree i would be rite behind u

[talktal]

i would sooner move to canada than to live in a country where that jackass was president.

[svxdriver]

Don't forget, Canada won't be a safe haven. Giuliani won't do anything to prevent the North American Union. Gonna have to get farther away then Canada. But Don't worry there is no way he stands a chance against Hillary. Its gonna take honesty, itegerity, and a voting history to beat Hillary.

[sjl245]

OMG!

I just bought the first Rudy'cross dresser'Giuliani's new dickshoveinme.

[xpez]

Who wants a FUCKING "Mayor" to be president????

[oishiiloops]

lol... when asked about 911 being provoked by us foreign policy RUDY butted in pretty much talking air; only asking for RON to take back his comment. ya fkn right. Ron is on point. VOTE RON PAUL

[awakenedstate]

Um democrats are talking about Al quada more than you neocons. They are in Pakistan. You guy just want to label islamic terrorism on the entire middle east to fool the dumb sheeple. Democrats suck too, but less on foreign policy. Giuliani is insane!

[yipshnip]

wow... are you kidding...like who the hell cares?????

[letmapeoplego]

For him it is not a word it is a punctuation mark.

[saulksd98]

Wahahhaah

[anyusmoon1]

er, don't you mean 'lithping' lol Pleathe leave little Napolean alone, I know I will- on election day.

Go Dr. Paul!!!!

[tealblue8]

Fear Mongerer

[eesloan4]

Well actually the word he is talking about is, "Islamicterrorism." In short it means, "Giuliani is not incompetent." hahaha

[bigsid920]

What a campaign issue... what a hack. Go Ron Paul!

[siberpredahtor]

what a racist PRICK

[metroid101]

hahahaha

[kojirodensetsu]

I don't see why anyone would like Rudy. He's your classic fear mongerer that tells us time and time again that if a democrat goes into office we'll all die. And I don't see why people would like Mitt either. Mitt has flip flopped so many times he makes John Kerry look good.

Ron Paul 2008

[FieroRumor]

All-aboard the failboat Guliani