If these are really his "hits" (of which he's obviously proud), how many times have his guesses missed? Funny, too, how they're always about sex: sexual abuse, sexual infidelity, etc. People admire and follow this guy? I think he's disturbed. Get some help, Mark.
I see things too. I see that this guy is full of it and apparently he likes to accuse people based on his visions.
He can't explain it because they don't happen. If he is so convinced they do, why not give the Randi Foundation a call and cash in on a cool $1mil? Everybody can use a Mil and think of the publicity.
I 'see things' too. I see that Mark has had events in his life that have lead him to have an unhealthy obsession on sex and especially, abusive sex and molestation of small children.
Well, my "gift" of discernment tells me that this guy is just plain sick. Perhaps a sex addict, I don't know as I'm not an expert. What's so incredibly sad is that people are falling for his con and he is getting rich exploiting his congregation. As an aside, while I have no problem with casual dress while attending church, I find it extremely difficult to take seriously this 30+ male 'preacher' who wears a Mickey Mouse tee shirt and hoodie. Dear Lord, what is this world coming to?
I'm in agreement with most of the comments here.This disgusting excuse for a pastor is your usual suspect: an opportunistic, carnally-minded, and dare I say 'devilish'' con-man who sees a morally degenerating society and decided to cash in. One can only imagine what the future holds for a church that willingly participates in this wickedness, but we do know for sure what will happen to Driscoll. As one who is poisoning thousands, he will be judged for being the false teacher he is.
The fact that this guy is so successful is an indictment of the church. If those professing believers had seriously spent time in the Word of God, learning the truth, they would be able to recognized a counterfeit immediately.Paul warned Timothy that the time would come when people would follow those preaching what they wanted to hear. Such is the case today...we are surrounded by hirelings and posers who are able to live in the lap of luxury because their brainnumbed followers support them.
So he reveals a wife's sins in front of her husband. He's lucky the man didn't kill his wife. He could have seriously cause her husband to harm her. Driscoll is a prideful, arrogant, lying man. Why do people attend his church? Bet he loves when weak women and egoistical men attend his church, the perfect members to manipulate and share all of bullshait lies.
Mickey Mouse on the t-shirt is a dead give away. He sees what on his dirty mind.
what's the scripture...2 Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
This channel is little more than angry atheists scolding anyone who doesn't believe as they believe, ironic considering the charges they level at those who do believe.
@JoshSaintJacque I'm not an atheist but I know a con artist when I see one. In fact I'm a Christian. Any minister that stands in front of his congregation and reveals counseling sessions in front of the whole congregation is an arrogant & vile man. Why would he share it? Why would he take pride in revealing others sins? He wants his congregation to be in awe of him, wants them to look up to him, wants them to fear him, etc....Sounds like a controlling, egostical, manipulative man, godlike.
It's amazing that this guy can have as many duped followers as he has. A guy like has to claim to "see things" because he altogether lacks any kind of education. He certainly doesn't "know things" the old fashion way, by toiling at learning history, philosophy, languages, biblical exegesis, etc., so he had better be able to convince people that he just has immediate cognitive access to the truth via some kind of spiritual "vision." What an incredible hack.
To be specific, he has some shitty communications degree with a minor in philosophy from a state school as well as a masters theology, which I might add seminaries like Western will hand out to any idiot these days.
@tokataro THIS. THIS is why I don't believe a WORD he says.
That and the fact that he admits that his "visions" aren't 100% accurate. And while I don't suggest we take this stance the Old Testament is clear; 100% accurate, or DEAD.
What I find astonishing and horrible is that he said those things to this woman in the context of a counseling session with her and her husband. For him to conjure up accusations and confront her as though he is the wronged spouse is an enormous betrayal. And then to discuss it with his congregation is a violation of the penitent/counselor relationship. This guy has a huge problem with women and should not be in a position of authority in a church.
Wait, this is the whole "repressed memory therapy" thing from the 70's and 80's. A whole lotta people got hurt bad by sleazy preachers and quacks convincing people they were molested as kids or that their daycare center was run by satanic cultists. And from the looks from what Marky-Mark is doing here, it looks like even more people are going to get hurt.
Dr Elizabeth Loftus wrote some good stuff on how easy it is to implant false memories in people, if anyone wants to google her for more info.
@ShadowPa1adin 0;9 secs into vid "This MAY be gift of discernment'" - There is 0 wrong with that and 0 wrong with admitting an ability that many have. Look at his other videos where he accuses himself and all of us of being 'false prophets', always predicting worse case scenarios that don't happen, -
This is the most honest clear aware pastor I've ever seen.
How do people still take this guy seriously? I was a young teenager when he spoke at my church's summer camp and I thought even then that there was something strange going on. It's only a matter of time before some massive scandal breaks about him/his church. I just wonder if anyone is taking bets yet on what it will be.
@Skuuzz Remember there isn't a SINGLE thing unrepented for that will not be exposed at the white throne judgment. Then EVERYONE will know. A little humiliation and repentance today will save you a lot of pain tommorrow. Remember apostle Paul's confrontion of Peter; in front of the entire congregation?? If you won't repent and make amends for your wrong-doings today, God will be forced to do it later... in a very public manner.
"And it shall be in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of My Spirit upon all flesh, and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams"
@Wivanunu Yep. That PROVES that Marky is right, isn't it? Because the Bible says that SOMETIME that will happen, this MUST be what the Bible was talking about, right?
Nobody is saying visions aren't possible. But take a close look at what he's saying and tell me that it isn't suspicious.
What he is referring to is prophecy. It's all through the bible. Divination is pursuing that knowledge yourself, prophecy is when God just shows it to you and makes you responsible for what you do with it. None of us truly know how credible this is, but scripture clearly says not to give satan credit for God's work, nor God credit for satans work. From everything he said he's using this gift for good, so there is no reason to judge him as a "false prophet."
@Charlessandberg2 Except for the fact that his stories are very suspicious. Yeah sure, like child molesters just up and admit it. Or like people will just say "Well, yeah I DID do that horrible thing you're accusing me of. But how did you know?" so calmly like that. Or how about the fact that this guy admits that his visions aren't 100% accurate all the time. Like I said earlier, in Old Testament law, prophets either to be 100% accurate in their visions or put to death.
@Charlessandberg2 That is not to say that I suggest we put him to death, but the Bible is clear on what God thinks about "not 100% accurate all the time" visions.
In my opinion, this guy needs to be outed for lying or institutionalized because he believes these visions are real.
If Mark Driscoll can really 'see' things then why don't we test it scientifically? Surely if God is giving this man the power to see discern events of one's life without any knowledge of them beforehand, you can't just give personal anecdotes and expect thoughtful, rational and critical thinking Christians and nonbelievers to accept these claims. So far, it's just an anecdote which most likely is not true.
So he's going around accusing people of rape, child molestation, and abuse based on things he "sees"? This guy is everything that's wrong with Christianity. Don't believe him for a second.
It's incredible that he's encouraging OTHERS to ACT on their own "visions" too...this is demented psychotic behavior that could easily lead to a gross case of "vigilante justice" when someone gets attacked or worse because "God showed me something."
Is he being literal? I am a Christian an I have been watching all of his videos and agree with most everything he says. I don't believe he sees things like that though. Sorry =)
'Your grandpa molested you. Go ask him'. Seriously? I wonder how many people accused loved ones of terrible things just because this man told them to.
I encourage everyone to be very cautious anytime they see videos like this posted. Sometimes people like PhillipRJohnson and many other will act as though they are on this "Discernment" or "Cleansing" mission from God. When often times they aren't really spreading discernment at all... but rather sowing DISCORD and DISUNITY being disguised as Discernment.
@TheAlen39: i agree. I am not saying that that is how one measures A Godly man, but I meant that there are no other prominent christian Pastors (piper) who see visions. It just sounds Pentecostal - ish. Not that they are wrong or bad , but they would have different theology than driscol has. Like, why hasnt Piper, or Marc Dever, or McArthur, or Greg Laury, or Paul Washer , Or R.C Sproul,or Francis Chan, or chuck swinndol seen visions. Just makes me a bit nervous. I like driscol. I think he's a
Seeing things is weird~ Why have no other Godly Pastors witnessed 'things'? like piper~ he's been a christian way longer than Mark. he doesn't see things though... sounds weird. Just like when Mark said that God spoke to him. - audibly- weird.
@maxerj8 Plenty of godly pastors (and plenty of everyday believers) have seen visions of various things related to the people they're counselling. It doesn't make you more of a man of God because you do see visions or less of a man of God because you don't, true spirituality, I believe, is evidenced by a christ like character and understanding. But the fact is God gives men visions at times to help them get to the root of the problem of the people they are trying to help.
It's sad to me that some "Christians" want to pass judgement on Pastor Mark yet want to complain about being judged.People want to judge n say he is full of crap n call him a liar,selfhonoring,selfrighteous,but not only are you placing judgement about something you obviously haven't experienced but you are also limiting God.Unless you yourself have the gift of discernment n can say the Lord revealed to you this man is a false prophet,you are just as guilty as the pharisees w/ the adultress.
@dsnacks2312 The gift of discernment isn't seeing visions. It's knowing truth from lies, right from wrong, recognizing false teaching, recognizes evil vs good, can see through people and their smoke screens. They can tell if something is from God or not. It has nothing to do with visions and you can't find it in scripture. He has manipulated his congregation with his interpretation of the gift of discernment. He's a false teacher and he's a liar because of it.
We can all speculate about why these visions are or are not of God, but I suppose the telling factor would be the fruit that resulted from him sharing these visions with the people concerned. Did the couple he was counselling marriage improve, did the others find peace, freedom or healing in their lives they they previously didn't have, were they pushed away from God or drawn closer to God? Best to wait and see than to rush into judgement and be proved wrong in the end and have to eat humble pie
... I am particularly troubled by what he says around 1:55... "...I see everything.", he says. No, Mark, you do not see everything. You are not all knowing. I now see Mark Driscoll as a power hungry dominator.
I have listened to some of Driscoll's sermons (clips) in the past - and liked what I heard, because although it was harsh at times, it was tough truth. But after watching this clip and reading some reviews this morning of his new book, "Real Marriage:...", I don't really care to listen or read anymore. As he is speaking in this clip, I get the impression that it 'feeds' or 'inflates' him to be able to "know" secret details of other people's lives. I think he feeds on that as perceived power.
One thing I dont get is why he had to go into such detail about the adulteress woman having sex with the guy. I mean he had to talk about her being on her back and taking her clothes off and more...wasnt it a given at the very start of the story she had sex with him? I feel like he enjoyed describing the sexual act he saw. Its like god gives hims upernatural real life porn. now all the worldly sinners will want Jesus in hopes to get such access to godly porn instead of the boring internet.Right?
Mark would have you believe HE is omnipresent and omnipotent , knowing all things HE IS A LIAR ...I can see the future and mark my word here today it wont be long before Mark will be preparing the koolaid for His congregants...
I have the gift of discernment as well. I can tell when an extremely manipulative person reads body language and makes basic guesses based on probability and then uses the answers he gets to mislead people. Its a miracle :/
Divination?? Are you trying to slander the Holy Spirit? Discoll discribes having visual words of knowledge, he may call it discernment, but it is a revelation gift anyways. The Spirit of Truth is capable of giving necessary details for purposes of securing deliverance, even if the details are gross and vial at times.
The holy spirit is PURE and HOLY (duh!) and it's not going to fill someone's mind with the lewd details of someone else's life. Driscoll is into some real weird, not to mention unbiblical mysticism
Wow! so people really believe that God gives pornographic visions as he described?
DISCERN, To see or understand the difference; to make distinction; as, to discern (Judge)between good and evil, truth and falsehood. Discernment has nothing to do with seeing visions of any kind, it is a knowledge or ability to judge rightly. Wake up people!!!
This has so many dislikes because it is patently obvious to ANYONE outside the Christian apologist echo-chamber that it is pure, made-up bullshit.
No one can see into the future. There is no such thing as magic, demons, angels, or prophecy. An iron age book on tribal morality is not evidence of a creator of the universe.
Please, grow up. And stop victimizing those who have no interest in your fantasies.
@krebford you know everything? Ever considered you could be wrong? In my EXPERIENCE, this man is right and all the things you deny the existence of, all exist.
@SeattleSunE 0;9 secs into vid "This MAY be gift of discernment'" - There is 0 wrong with that and 0 wrong with admitting an ability that many have. Look at his other videos where he accuses himself and all of us of being 'false prophets', always predicting worse case scenarios that don't happen, -
This is the most honest clear aware pastor I've ever seen.
I though he was a goo guy when I watched His thing on Twilight. So I kept searching for more of his stuff. But I won't be doing that anymore. This man cannot "see things" say away from him. I am a Christian I do not believe thiis at all.
@ht3696 Why not? I occasionally have perceptive dreams, feelings I can't explain. Intuition is Man's God-given gift to perceive Him. It is through it that we hear his voice. This allows us to relate to him, and sometimes some is a gift to relate to others. If you are still having trouble with this, leave it be. It's like tongues. It's a gift for some, but don't worry about it if you don't have it. Don't hate on everything Mark says just because of this. It's a pretty small part of his theology.
@daleyboy77 so you don't believe in prophesy then.. you don't believe in demons being cast out ,... you know like God did!!.. God allows them to see what needs to be seen to help the person involved .. its happened to me I got a vision of a car accident on the motorway and that my ex would be in it .. i told him to stay on the couch and leave in the morning but he decided he was going to anyway.. 3 days later he calls me about something to do with our son and then tells me he has an accident
@daleyboy77 you are in danger of committing the unpardonable sin by saying that Marks visions are from the Devil and not the Holy spirit ... Mark is not of the Devil hes been bought back and the gift he has for helping people is from God..
@abominableangel That is not the unpardonable sin .......Driscoll leads people astray...he says Joel Osteen is his Christian brother ...anyone who thinks Osteen is a Christian has very little or no discernment or has a non Christian agenda and should not be pastoring a flock.
Waken up !!
Prophecy has finished now we have the complete canon.
@daleyboy77 you say it isnt the unpardonable sin but then say what he sees is from the devil .. so the gift of that God gave Mark you say is of the Devil ... check yourself.. its not up to us to decide who is and isnt a christian brother or sister we are to love them anyway .. if they have committed sin then we are to tell them but we arent to judge them if they refuse to repent then we are to not fellowship with them but we must not judge them as that isnt our place that is for the Lord only
@abominableangel Not quite correct according to what the Bible says abominableangel....Jesus commands us to judge righteously John 7:24...not to stick our head in the sand and ignore false teachers.
Mat 7:15 "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
@daleyboy77 indeed but you are accusing mark falsely how many more will you accuse? Ostene might be a wretch but Mark is not one of those, are we not to call all to repentance how has Mark lead you astray I take it you don't believe the Holy Spirit can show you things, things you need to know that could save another.. so because he has seen things as have I we are of the devil, sheep in wolves clothing .. you talk of discernment yet you have shown none toward Mark
there is always real cheese in a rat trap, would any of you hear drink a glass of water if u knew someone put one drop of raw sewage. Why is this any different this man has an obsession with everything sexual, and now gives him graphic visions of child molestation and sexual trists in hotel. he is part of Leadership Network change agent. New agers and marxist/communists alike have said they were going to infiltrate the church..
@gauleygirl2000 Are you serious? You obviously know nothing about Mark Driscoll, or why he talks about sex so much. 1) Seattle was the least church city in the US when he started preaching there 2) most Christians there did not grow up in Leave it to Beaver families, so they need instruction about what is and is not holy in sexual conduct. 3) Many taboo subjects in boring, religious, out of date churches are asked by his followers for explanation so that they may be edified 4) he wrote a 50 page
This is taken out of context, and like @natbrain has said, you should go watch driscoll's other videos. He exalts Jesus more than anything else, but sometimes it is necessary to talk about some very dark stuff. This is actually very powerful when viewed in context of his teaching on Spiritual Warfare.
If you listen to him he says that he questions everything he doesn't just accept everything he sees. It's like if a angel comes to you, you need to test it to scripture because it might be a demon out to deceive you. The bible says that satan can appear to people as an angel of light and before he fell he was the most beautiful creation in heaven so that's why he is so deceptive. They will think hes legit and start the new religion he tells them to like Mormonism for example.
At 2.10 he subtely flashes the baphomet sign...watch his hands...i've seen him throw up this sign in most of his vids and true believers know that it is a satanic sign and many satanists have infiltrated the Church. That and the fact that his very off on a lot of his doctrine/theology is very alarming.
@Kakkapaja Everyone has their own opinion. God is the only one who knows who's right. We will find out for sure on judgement day. That's a guarantee! Something I never thought, whether it was right or wrong, did he have to go into such detail? All he had to say was, he saw a vision of her committing adultery. Then all this back & forth debating would never have started. God bless!
I pray for the people who don't understand the meaning of this video. This man is preaching the word of God, and trying to help people who are too scared to talk about these things to other people. Understand this is because he wants to show Jesus to people, and help people come to know him.
[pt.1] The acts he described - do you consider those porn? If so, that'd be a sickening indictment of you, Phil. Porn is material used for sexual arousal. I would never call such acts porn, and I imagine he wouldn't either. Do you see roadkill & call it steakhouse fare? How ridiculous. Your term is more than unfortunate - it's false accusation. And while the ends don't justify the means, if evidence bears out the claims, & gospel fruit resulted, consider what you'd actually be judging.
[part2] Also, if you believe in the God of spiders & mosquitos, consider His decrees aren't subject to our tastes. You're living ages ago & a man who tells you God told him to go naked. Or bake on feces. That God killed his wife & told him not to mourn. Or that He said to marry a whore to make a point. How would you judge him? Kook? Not to justify such things today, but that's Bible. God has done much more jarring things than what Driscoll says here. It just seems strange to us.
On Wretched with Todd Friel, Todd told what Phil Johnson, John MacArthur's editor, said. He called it, "Pornographic Divination". God forgives our sins & throws them into the sea of forgetfulness, so why would He dig them back up & show detailed visions of them to a pastor?
@TypeOfan wait...don't confuse forgiveness with erasure of the past. Just because you're saved doesn't mean you can't see stuff that would bother you.
@TypeOfan Sometimes, past sin needs to be brought into the light by God because we would never bring them into the light ourselves. Obviously, these people wanted resolution/improvement in relationships, but they were treating symptoms, not the root of the cause. In cases like that, God will bring the root of the cause to someone's attention (as He did with Pastor Mark).
@djking2d I agree, but the point is, why tell the church every detail with kids possibly present. If it was actually from God, he could've said she had an affair or committed adultery. Remember, he said he was a cessationist. They don't believe any of the spiritual gifts exist anymore. Oxymoron?
@TypeOfan Where did he ever say he is a cessationist? I've never heard anything to indicate he doesn't believe the spiritual gifts exist anymore. In fact, everything I've heard on the topic indicates he, and the church genuinely encourage discovering your spiritual gifts. When kids get to about 10 years old, they attend adult services because they believe kids need to contribute to the church & mature into adults. Also, this seems to be the series where these topics were done at the last sermon
@djking2d It was cut out of this vid for whatever reason, odd since it was from his negative reviewer, but it was included when I saw it on Wretched with Todd Friel. Sorry I'm causing so many offenses. I should never have posted anything. There are so many heretics out there, I feel like I need to help warn against them (symptom of watching Wretched). Maybe we should focus more on the Gospel & do what we were called to, Love one another.
@TypeOfan of the day for Mark. He only speaks about such things after giving warning to parents before the sermon in the church, as well as a disclaimer for people to know before watching-as long as it is uploaded by mhcseattle. So, I think its best to find the whole sermon, and listen to that before condemning him.
@djking2d booklet call "Porn Again Christian," which is available for all men for free. Funny thing is you used the sewage water analogy, which is used in his booklet, and you didn't even know it. Stop being ignorant, and do your research. Outsiders don't respect Christians because they talk about a bunch of crap without knowing what they're saying. In addition, Christians attack each other far more than they love each other. What did Jesus say the world would know we are Christians by? Jn13:35
@lousaleal Yes, i'm with you on that. The disney character is symbolic of MK-Ultra mind control. It's deep stuff. You can do some research on that if you want to.
Perhaps this man should be more careful about which details he recounts to his congregation. Then again, perhaps the person posting this video should, likewise, be more charitable about posting such details on the Internet. If Driscoll's sin is X, Johnson's is 17,000X.
To post this video clip, devoid of context, for the purpose of maligning the pastor who preached it, is deeply, morally wrong. PhillipRJohnson ought to be ashamed. But he won't be.
@philWynk PhillipRJohnson ought to be ashamed for pointing out the lies and depravity of someone in a position of trust? Sorry, it doesn't work that way- Thank God it doesn't work that way.
@ideologger Look, I understand that you think it's "depraved" to talk about sex (God doesn't, but the hyper-religious think He does) but what "lies" are you talking about?
People ought to be ashamed of accusing others of lying when they are not lying. People ought to be ashamed of calling others "depraved" when they are not depraved.
And if Johnson thinks this is depraved, why is he posting it where 18,500X can see it? He's fine with depravity when using it to malign somebody? Hypocrite...
Driscoll got a vision of a woman laying on her back, taking off her clothes and a man climbing on top of her .... This is clearly not a vision from God. Avoid Mark Driscoll.
@fourbyfourblazer Why is it 'clearly' not from God? You may find this discussion on cessationism to be of interest; it's a dialog between Pastor Driscoll and Pastor Wilson: vimeo(dot)com/29820825
@JJDSampson The problem is that when a false prophet decides he's a new Christ (anointed by God) he's no longer able to discern fantasy from reality. He plays out a rape fantasy in his head, and in the battle of his own perverse desires and self-hatred deigns to project that fantasy into reality and into the past. Thankfully, folks like Drischoll are usually just lying about the congregants, spinning yarns- lives are destroyed by false allegations and families are ripped apart.
@ideologger ideoblogger, had you watched the video hosted on vimeo that I referenced you would have found my answer before even asking your question. Your concern is with somebody who has no accountability, which is not the case with Driscoll. Mark stated clearly in his dialogue with Pastor Wilson that he speaks with his elders regarding any suspicions or visions he may have had - acknowledging that he himself could be in error and wrong. False prophets don't seek the counsel of godly men.
hes talking about gift of diserment a spirtual gift that God uses to speak in people lifes. God gives it to u for a specfic reason to help that person, to bring that person to repentance or that is what he is talking about I love pastor mark driscoll very spirtual trained praise God for pastor mark!
Mark Driscoll is a really good pastor. But taking clips of a sermon out of context can make it look like Mark, or any pastor really, look bad. He has a channel mhcseattle and there you can find all his videos, and he has links to the full sermon. He might be telling a story to help illustrate a point, but if we just show the story he told and nothing else, it makes him look like a false preacher because it makes it look like he never mentions Jesus.
@ideologger You seem to think any exercise of the miraculous is witchcraft -- even though Jesus said His followers would do such works in His name, and miracles are mentioned as present in at least 5 of the churches to which Paul wrote letters. I don't see anything in the gospels or in the writings of Paul, John, Peter, or Jude suggesting that there's anything wrong with miracles. So where are you getting this hatred of yours toward the miraculous?
@ideologger he's not a witch or a false prophet. Go to mhcseattle channel on youtube. You can watch clips of his sermons. When you see them, you'll see he loves Jesus a lot and he's for real.
@natbrain ...a LITTLE leaven leveneth the WHOLE lump...God Hates a mixture of good and evil , what he is doing is NOT discernment it is DIVINATION and that IS witchcraft
@shempmocurly before you judge him, have you seen any of videos he's posted of his preaching? mhcseattle is his youtube channel, check it out. He's not a witch. He loves Jesus. Don't watch any Mark Driscoll videos other than the ones on his channel mhcseattle, then you can make a judgement.
What in god's name is with that mickey mouse shirt? (no pun intended.)
gatorhighlights4 10 hours ago
I SEE THINGS TOO,YOU NEED HELP WITH YOUR DELUSION.GET HELP YOU PULPIT PIMP.
MrEnlightenup 1 day ago
Mickey Mouse shirt. Seems legit.
jayeenn 1 day ago
If these are really his "hits" (of which he's obviously proud), how many times have his guesses missed? Funny, too, how they're always about sex: sexual abuse, sexual infidelity, etc. People admire and follow this guy? I think he's disturbed. Get some help, Mark.
ShellyDZ99 1 day ago
The instant anyone starts a story with "this is true," be wary. The more they say "this is a true story," the more bullshit that story is.
GooberSOTP 1 day ago
"Yeah, when you were little I molested you."
Bullshit. One fact I know through life experience and through my studies:
People who abuse others *rarely* readily admit to the abuse when confronted. They deny it or rationalize it by blaming the victim.
Also, what is up with this guy's fixation on sexual problems and so-called sexual "sins?"
B0rn0nly0nce 1 day ago 3
"I don't talk about this"... LOL. What a moron.
chriswonderboy 1 day ago
@chriswonderboy No, the people who listen to him and follow him are morons.
groucho66 1 day ago
@groucho66 I stand corrected. True. He's the one making the money.
chriswonderboy 1 day ago
I see things too. I see that this guy is full of it and apparently he likes to accuse people based on his visions.
He can't explain it because they don't happen. If he is so convinced they do, why not give the Randi Foundation a call and cash in on a cool $1mil? Everybody can use a Mil and think of the publicity.
Sk3ptik0n 1 day ago
I 'see things' too. I see that Mark has had events in his life that have lead him to have an unhealthy obsession on sex and especially, abusive sex and molestation of small children.
TutmenNitkeinToives 2 days ago
@MsTweetie Couldn't agree more. He is a servant of the devil and Mickey Mouse would probably know more about the gospel than this joke
sellisplumbing 2 days ago
Well, my "gift" of discernment tells me that this guy is just plain sick. Perhaps a sex addict, I don't know as I'm not an expert. What's so incredibly sad is that people are falling for his con and he is getting rich exploiting his congregation. As an aside, while I have no problem with casual dress while attending church, I find it extremely difficult to take seriously this 30+ male 'preacher' who wears a Mickey Mouse tee shirt and hoodie. Dear Lord, what is this world coming to?
MsTweetie 3 days ago 2
I'm in agreement with most of the comments here.This disgusting excuse for a pastor is your usual suspect: an opportunistic, carnally-minded, and dare I say 'devilish'' con-man who sees a morally degenerating society and decided to cash in. One can only imagine what the future holds for a church that willingly participates in this wickedness, but we do know for sure what will happen to Driscoll. As one who is poisoning thousands, he will be judged for being the false teacher he is.
ScreeminMeeme 3 days ago
Fool, I believe that you might have these revelations, I don't, however, believe they come from God.
The devil, though not almighty, does have power and can poses people.
YOUR DECEIVED!
Beastinvader 3 days ago
The fact that this guy is so successful is an indictment of the church. If those professing believers had seriously spent time in the Word of God, learning the truth, they would be able to recognized a counterfeit immediately.Paul warned Timothy that the time would come when people would follow those preaching what they wanted to hear. Such is the case today...we are surrounded by hirelings and posers who are able to live in the lap of luxury because their brainnumbed followers support them.
ScreeminMeeme 3 days ago
So he reveals a wife's sins in front of her husband. He's lucky the man didn't kill his wife. He could have seriously cause her husband to harm her. Driscoll is a prideful, arrogant, lying man. Why do people attend his church? Bet he loves when weak women and egoistical men attend his church, the perfect members to manipulate and share all of bullshait lies.
blubirdTN 3 days ago
Mickey Mouse on the t-shirt is a dead give away. He sees what on his dirty mind.
what's the scripture...2 Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
MozALoser 3 days ago
lol, it doesn't surprise me that he "sees things"
goodbyeisforever 3 days ago
I see dead people
DoubleR2591 3 days ago
This guy is great.
positivelyGood 4 days ago
This guy's a kook
GB0318 2 weeks ago
I like how Driscoll just assumes that his perverted mental images are the biblical gift of discernment
310revelation 2 weeks ago
So, how is this different from being Psychic?
This guy is stupid, there is no difference.
JudgeEden 3 weeks ago in playlist Satanic Infiltration of the Church
"I don't talk about this," he said.
rickrhay 3 weeks ago
This channel is little more than angry atheists scolding anyone who doesn't believe as they believe, ironic considering the charges they level at those who do believe.
JoshSaintJacque 3 weeks ago
@JoshSaintJacque I'm not an atheist but I know a con artist when I see one. In fact I'm a Christian. Any minister that stands in front of his congregation and reveals counseling sessions in front of the whole congregation is an arrogant & vile man. Why would he share it? Why would he take pride in revealing others sins? He wants his congregation to be in awe of him, wants them to look up to him, wants them to fear him, etc....Sounds like a controlling, egostical, manipulative man, godlike.
blubirdTN 3 days ago
this guy is disgusting
cherryberry360 3 weeks ago
this guys is creepy, a liar and a evil sinful little man
Kwood71 3 weeks ago
It's amazing that this guy can have as many duped followers as he has. A guy like has to claim to "see things" because he altogether lacks any kind of education. He certainly doesn't "know things" the old fashion way, by toiling at learning history, philosophy, languages, biblical exegesis, etc., so he had better be able to convince people that he just has immediate cognitive access to the truth via some kind of spiritual "vision." What an incredible hack.
LoVerT2 3 weeks ago
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IdaSputum 3 weeks ago
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@LoVerT2 Errrr.... Mark Driscoll earned a Degree in Philosophy and continued studies much further in relevant areas,
so you are LYING!
You are a blatant disinfo troll as seen in the video-
"COINTELPRO; What you should know"
IdaSputum 3 weeks ago
@IdaSputum: Oh, I know all about his "education." The idea that there is anything remotely intellectual about this guy is a joke.
LoVerT2 3 weeks ago
To be specific, he has some shitty communications degree with a minor in philosophy from a state school as well as a masters theology, which I might add seminaries like Western will hand out to any idiot these days.
LoVerT2 3 weeks ago
Yeah, because people who molest children usually just come right out and admit it when you ask them nicely.
tokataro 4 weeks ago 3
@tokataro THIS. THIS is why I don't believe a WORD he says.
That and the fact that he admits that his "visions" aren't 100% accurate. And while I don't suggest we take this stance the Old Testament is clear; 100% accurate, or DEAD.
ctemomo 2 weeks ago
I see things too. A new cult called Mars Hill Church is one of the things I see.
velvta 4 weeks ago
What I find astonishing and horrible is that he said those things to this woman in the context of a counseling session with her and her husband. For him to conjure up accusations and confront her as though he is the wronged spouse is an enormous betrayal. And then to discuss it with his congregation is a violation of the penitent/counselor relationship. This guy has a huge problem with women and should not be in a position of authority in a church.
me68206 1 month ago 16
The more this nitwit tries to find something to yap about the more bullshit he has to invent.
Resenbrink 1 month ago 2
I see the reincarnation of Elmer Gantry
mercer401 1 month ago
"That cheap hotel with the certain colored bed spread"
Man, HOW DID HE KNOW THE COLOR OF THE BED SPREAD??! Maybe it was a lucky guess.
andStack 1 month ago 2
Please, i am lost and i want to just loose it.
CarlosSanchez116 1 month ago
I need to meet this guy.
CarlosSanchez116 1 month ago
Wait, this is the whole "repressed memory therapy" thing from the 70's and 80's. A whole lotta people got hurt bad by sleazy preachers and quacks convincing people they were molested as kids or that their daycare center was run by satanic cultists. And from the looks from what Marky-Mark is doing here, it looks like even more people are going to get hurt.
Dr Elizabeth Loftus wrote some good stuff on how easy it is to implant false memories in people, if anyone wants to google her for more info.
ShadowPa1adin 1 month ago 2
0:45 "I'm not a guru, I'm not a freak, I don't talk about this..."
Uh, Mark. You're talking about it now, into a headset mic, on a stage, before a live audience, on camera, to be broadcasted over YouTube.
ShadowPa1adin 1 month ago 43
@ShadowPa1adin 0;9 secs into vid "This MAY be gift of discernment'" - There is 0 wrong with that and 0 wrong with admitting an ability that many have. Look at his other videos where he accuses himself and all of us of being 'false prophets', always predicting worse case scenarios that don't happen, -
This is the most honest clear aware pastor I've ever seen.
IdaSputum 3 weeks ago
FAGGOT!
reamsauce 1 month ago
I think he "sees" the things because he was there: he was having the affair with the woman, he molested the child. Arrest this asshole
ketpiano 1 month ago
How do people still take this guy seriously? I was a young teenager when he spoke at my church's summer camp and I thought even then that there was something strange going on. It's only a matter of time before some massive scandal breaks about him/his church. I just wonder if anyone is taking bets yet on what it will be.
BohemienneBrigitte 1 month ago 3
O C C U L T I C - plain & simple!
Discerningthetruth 1 month ago
Oh my glob, this guy is creepy.
emmonsterd 1 month ago
Got to 1:24 and turned it off. How can someone preach such dark things to their congregation. Thumbs down on this video for me.
daisykid 1 month ago
Edgar Cayce saw things too.
ayebretwalda 1 month ago
These gifts should never be used like he is desccribing. Your gifts are to edify and build up those around you.
Skuuzz 1 month ago 3
@Skuuzz Please, enlighten us. How should the man of God really use this gift?
Mash494 1 month ago
@Mash494 They should never be used to point out deep dark secrets. That is a humiliating approach. I already said it
Skuuzz 1 month ago 2
@Skuuzz Remember there isn't a SINGLE thing unrepented for that will not be exposed at the white throne judgment. Then EVERYONE will know. A little humiliation and repentance today will save you a lot of pain tommorrow. Remember apostle Paul's confrontion of Peter; in front of the entire congregation?? If you won't repent and make amends for your wrong-doings today, God will be forced to do it later... in a very public manner.
Mash494 1 month ago
Acts 2:17
"And it shall be in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of My Spirit upon all flesh, and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams"
Wivanunu 1 month ago
@Wivanunu Yep. That PROVES that Marky is right, isn't it? Because the Bible says that SOMETIME that will happen, this MUST be what the Bible was talking about, right?
Nobody is saying visions aren't possible. But take a close look at what he's saying and tell me that it isn't suspicious.
ctemomo 2 weeks ago
@ctemomo I agree with you. I've watched so many sermons that are great from this man...but I have to admit red flags shot up with this video.
I still love Acts 2:17 though.....because many are having real visions and dreams from God!
Wivanunu 2 weeks ago
That he can see these bad things will only help people!! All darkness will come to light!!!
Wivanunu 1 month ago
That is exactly how I try to explain my visions!! Like a TV screen all of a sudden in front of my eyes!!!
Wivanunu 1 month ago
What he is referring to is prophecy. It's all through the bible. Divination is pursuing that knowledge yourself, prophecy is when God just shows it to you and makes you responsible for what you do with it. None of us truly know how credible this is, but scripture clearly says not to give satan credit for God's work, nor God credit for satans work. From everything he said he's using this gift for good, so there is no reason to judge him as a "false prophet."
Charlessandberg2 1 month ago
@Charlessandberg2 Except for the fact that his stories are very suspicious. Yeah sure, like child molesters just up and admit it. Or like people will just say "Well, yeah I DID do that horrible thing you're accusing me of. But how did you know?" so calmly like that. Or how about the fact that this guy admits that his visions aren't 100% accurate all the time. Like I said earlier, in Old Testament law, prophets either to be 100% accurate in their visions or put to death.
ctemomo 2 weeks ago 3
@Charlessandberg2 That is not to say that I suggest we put him to death, but the Bible is clear on what God thinks about "not 100% accurate all the time" visions.
In my opinion, this guy needs to be outed for lying or institutionalized because he believes these visions are real.
ctemomo 2 weeks ago
If Mark Driscoll can really 'see' things then why don't we test it scientifically? Surely if God is giving this man the power to see discern events of one's life without any knowledge of them beforehand, you can't just give personal anecdotes and expect thoughtful, rational and critical thinking Christians and nonbelievers to accept these claims. So far, it's just an anecdote which most likely is not true.
oliver2k94 1 month ago
he is a liar
false profit
avardevan 1 month ago
the sub-title is unfair: this is neither "pornographic" nor "divination"
yeoberry 1 month ago
So he's going around accusing people of rape, child molestation, and abuse based on things he "sees"? This guy is everything that's wrong with Christianity. Don't believe him for a second.
It's incredible that he's encouraging OTHERS to ACT on their own "visions" too...this is demented psychotic behavior that could easily lead to a gross case of "vigilante justice" when someone gets attacked or worse because "God showed me something."
johngranofsky 1 month ago
What a disgraceful little charlatan pig
PhantomGanon1 1 month ago
YO MARK DRISCOLL IS LEGIT!!! QUIT BEING HATERS!!!
starwinddennis 1 month ago
Is he being literal? I am a Christian an I have been watching all of his videos and agree with most everything he says. I don't believe he sees things like that though. Sorry =)
BABYT0MB0Y 1 month ago
i can see things to:) i have two eyes.
and
Religion is bullshit!
maltazarius 1 month ago
instead of reavling that ladies truth to her hubbie... y wouldnt you meet with her and talk to her about it and let her tell her own sins?
Shantell81CRNA 1 month ago 2
'Your grandpa molested you. Go ask him'. Seriously? I wonder how many people accused loved ones of terrible things just because this man told them to.
dandyarsenic 1 month ago
@dandyarsenic for real like they really gonna say yea i did that to u come on
Shantell81CRNA 1 month ago
Let us reopen the canon he has a revelation from God ... maybe theres to much tv in is church he see tvs everywhere ...
timotheeforest 1 month ago
he see everythinggggggggggggggggggggg
timotheeforest 1 month ago
This is Discord and Disunity being SOLD as Discernment.
IDCreation1 1 month ago
I encourage everyone to be very cautious anytime they see videos like this posted. Sometimes people like PhillipRJohnson and many other will act as though they are on this "Discernment" or "Cleansing" mission from God. When often times they aren't really spreading discernment at all... but rather sowing DISCORD and DISUNITY being disguised as Discernment.
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Silvercardinal7 2 months ago
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maxerj8 2 months ago
@TheAlen39: i agree. I am not saying that that is how one measures A Godly man, but I meant that there are no other prominent christian Pastors (piper) who see visions. It just sounds Pentecostal - ish. Not that they are wrong or bad , but they would have different theology than driscol has. Like, why hasnt Piper, or Marc Dever, or McArthur, or Greg Laury, or Paul Washer , Or R.C Sproul,or Francis Chan, or chuck swinndol seen visions. Just makes me a bit nervous. I like driscol. I think he's a
maxerj8 2 months ago
Seeing things is weird~ Why have no other Godly Pastors witnessed 'things'? like piper~ he's been a christian way longer than Mark. he doesn't see things though... sounds weird. Just like when Mark said that God spoke to him. - audibly- weird.
maxerj8 2 months ago
@maxerj8 Plenty of godly pastors (and plenty of everyday believers) have seen visions of various things related to the people they're counselling. It doesn't make you more of a man of God because you do see visions or less of a man of God because you don't, true spirituality, I believe, is evidenced by a christ like character and understanding. But the fact is God gives men visions at times to help them get to the root of the problem of the people they are trying to help.
TheAlan39 2 months ago
It's sad to me that some "Christians" want to pass judgement on Pastor Mark yet want to complain about being judged.People want to judge n say he is full of crap n call him a liar,selfhonoring,selfrighteous,but not only are you placing judgement about something you obviously haven't experienced but you are also limiting God.Unless you yourself have the gift of discernment n can say the Lord revealed to you this man is a false prophet,you are just as guilty as the pharisees w/ the adultress.
dsnacks2312 2 months ago
@dsnacks2312 The gift of discernment isn't seeing visions. It's knowing truth from lies, right from wrong, recognizing false teaching, recognizes evil vs good, can see through people and their smoke screens. They can tell if something is from God or not. It has nothing to do with visions and you can't find it in scripture. He has manipulated his congregation with his interpretation of the gift of discernment. He's a false teacher and he's a liar because of it.
blubirdTN 3 days ago
We can all speculate about why these visions are or are not of God, but I suppose the telling factor would be the fruit that resulted from him sharing these visions with the people concerned. Did the couple he was counselling marriage improve, did the others find peace, freedom or healing in their lives they they previously didn't have, were they pushed away from God or drawn closer to God? Best to wait and see than to rush into judgement and be proved wrong in the end and have to eat humble pie
TheAlan39 2 months ago
... I am particularly troubled by what he says around 1:55... "...I see everything.", he says. No, Mark, you do not see everything. You are not all knowing. I now see Mark Driscoll as a power hungry dominator.
nikonmatt1982 2 months ago 3
I have listened to some of Driscoll's sermons (clips) in the past - and liked what I heard, because although it was harsh at times, it was tough truth. But after watching this clip and reading some reviews this morning of his new book, "Real Marriage:...", I don't really care to listen or read anymore. As he is speaking in this clip, I get the impression that it 'feeds' or 'inflates' him to be able to "know" secret details of other people's lives. I think he feeds on that as perceived power.
nikonmatt1982 2 months ago 2
In ten years he'll be faith healing.
Grandmastu 2 months ago 2
Its funny how he took about 20 seconds or more to describe a sex act that God sent him in a vision. Wow! 20 seconds!!! Its a large paragraph!
MaharlikaAWA 2 months ago
One thing I dont get is why he had to go into such detail about the adulteress woman having sex with the guy. I mean he had to talk about her being on her back and taking her clothes off and more...wasnt it a given at the very start of the story she had sex with him? I feel like he enjoyed describing the sexual act he saw. Its like god gives hims upernatural real life porn. now all the worldly sinners will want Jesus in hopes to get such access to godly porn instead of the boring internet.Right?
MaharlikaAWA 2 months ago 3
Mark would have you believe HE is omnipresent and omnipotent , knowing all things HE IS A LIAR ...I can see the future and mark my word here today it wont be long before Mark will be preparing the koolaid for His congregants...
shempmocurly 2 months ago
I have the gift of discernment as well. I can tell when an extremely manipulative person reads body language and makes basic guesses based on probability and then uses the answers he gets to mislead people. Its a miracle :/
ugotstobekiddingme 2 months ago 31
@ugotstobekiddingme
Yeap....
GB0318 2 months ago
to saw that God cant give visions to Mark Driscoll or anyone is to say that God doesn't have the power to do so
MrBEALLIE 2 months ago
Divination?? Are you trying to slander the Holy Spirit? Discoll discribes having visual words of knowledge, he may call it discernment, but it is a revelation gift anyways. The Spirit of Truth is capable of giving necessary details for purposes of securing deliverance, even if the details are gross and vial at times.
revivaleffect 2 months ago
The holy spirit is PURE and HOLY (duh!) and it's not going to fill someone's mind with the lewd details of someone else's life. Driscoll is into some real weird, not to mention unbiblical mysticism
310revelation 2 months ago 3
Wow! so people really believe that God gives pornographic visions as he described?
DISCERN, To see or understand the difference; to make distinction; as, to discern (Judge)between good and evil, truth and falsehood. Discernment has nothing to do with seeing visions of any kind, it is a knowledge or ability to judge rightly. Wake up people!!!
TheRestoredTruth 2 months ago
You can get that all the time if you drink ayahuasca.
willhum 2 months ago
i see mickey mouse
TheADMKizaru 2 months ago 2
This has so many dislikes because it is patently obvious to ANYONE outside the Christian apologist echo-chamber that it is pure, made-up bullshit.
No one can see into the future. There is no such thing as magic, demons, angels, or prophecy. An iron age book on tribal morality is not evidence of a creator of the universe.
Please, grow up. And stop victimizing those who have no interest in your fantasies.
krebford 3 months ago 7
@krebford you know everything? Ever considered you could be wrong? In my EXPERIENCE, this man is right and all the things you deny the existence of, all exist.
IdaSputum 1 month ago
@IdaSputum
If you would actually listen (4:49), Driscoll himself says he could be wrong. If he has doubt, are his "visions" from the Lord?
Only God knows everything. God's word does not come back empty.
SeattleSunE 3 weeks ago
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@SeattleSunE 0;9 secs into vid "This MAY be gift of discernment'" - There is 0 wrong with that and 0 wrong with admitting an ability that many have. Look at his other videos where he accuses himself and all of us of being 'false prophets', always predicting worse case scenarios that don't happen, -
This is the most honest clear aware pastor I've ever seen.
IdaSputum 3 weeks ago
I though he was a goo guy when I watched His thing on Twilight. So I kept searching for more of his stuff. But I won't be doing that anymore. This man cannot "see things" say away from him. I am a Christian I do not believe thiis at all.
ht3696 3 months ago
@ht3696 Why not? I occasionally have perceptive dreams, feelings I can't explain. Intuition is Man's God-given gift to perceive Him. It is through it that we hear his voice. This allows us to relate to him, and sometimes some is a gift to relate to others. If you are still having trouble with this, leave it be. It's like tongues. It's a gift for some, but don't worry about it if you don't have it. Don't hate on everything Mark says just because of this. It's a pretty small part of his theology.
SteveVader101 3 months ago
Scarey ...........avoid this guys church ....avoid his teachings if you love the God who gave you life .
daleyboy77 3 months ago
@daleyboy77 so you don't believe in prophesy then.. you don't believe in demons being cast out ,... you know like God did!!.. God allows them to see what needs to be seen to help the person involved .. its happened to me I got a vision of a car accident on the motorway and that my ex would be in it .. i told him to stay on the couch and leave in the morning but he decided he was going to anyway.. 3 days later he calls me about something to do with our son and then tells me he has an accident
abominableangel 3 months ago
on the motorway with a lorry driver who was nodding off at the wheel and drifted into his lane.. he said he was ok but his hand hurt ..
abominableangel 3 months ago
@daleyboy77 you are in danger of committing the unpardonable sin by saying that Marks visions are from the Devil and not the Holy spirit ... Mark is not of the Devil hes been bought back and the gift he has for helping people is from God..
abominableangel 3 months ago
@abominableangel That is not the unpardonable sin .......Driscoll leads people astray...he says Joel Osteen is his Christian brother ...anyone who thinks Osteen is a Christian has very little or no discernment or has a non Christian agenda and should not be pastoring a flock.
Waken up !!
Prophecy has finished now we have the complete canon.
Hebrews 1:1
daleyboy77 3 months ago
@daleyboy77 you say it isnt the unpardonable sin but then say what he sees is from the devil .. so the gift of that God gave Mark you say is of the Devil ... check yourself.. its not up to us to decide who is and isnt a christian brother or sister we are to love them anyway .. if they have committed sin then we are to tell them but we arent to judge them if they refuse to repent then we are to not fellowship with them but we must not judge them as that isnt our place that is for the Lord only
abominableangel 3 months ago
@abominableangel Not quite correct according to what the Bible says abominableangel....Jesus commands us to judge righteously John 7:24...not to stick our head in the sand and ignore false teachers.
Mat 7:15 "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
daleyboy77 3 months ago
@daleyboy77 indeed but you are accusing mark falsely how many more will you accuse? Ostene might be a wretch but Mark is not one of those, are we not to call all to repentance how has Mark lead you astray I take it you don't believe the Holy Spirit can show you things, things you need to know that could save another.. so because he has seen things as have I we are of the devil, sheep in wolves clothing .. you talk of discernment yet you have shown none toward Mark
abominableangel 3 months ago
Woo!
SamWiseGingy 3 months ago
there is always real cheese in a rat trap, would any of you hear drink a glass of water if u knew someone put one drop of raw sewage. Why is this any different this man has an obsession with everything sexual, and now gives him graphic visions of child molestation and sexual trists in hotel. he is part of Leadership Network change agent. New agers and marxist/communists alike have said they were going to infiltrate the church..
gauleygirl2000 3 months ago
@gauleygirl2000 Are you serious? You obviously know nothing about Mark Driscoll, or why he talks about sex so much. 1) Seattle was the least church city in the US when he started preaching there 2) most Christians there did not grow up in Leave it to Beaver families, so they need instruction about what is and is not holy in sexual conduct. 3) Many taboo subjects in boring, religious, out of date churches are asked by his followers for explanation so that they may be edified 4) he wrote a 50 page
djking2d 3 months ago
This is taken out of context, and like @natbrain has said, you should go watch driscoll's other videos. He exalts Jesus more than anything else, but sometimes it is necessary to talk about some very dark stuff. This is actually very powerful when viewed in context of his teaching on Spiritual Warfare.
Krevbot 3 months ago
If you listen to him he says that he questions everything he doesn't just accept everything he sees. It's like if a angel comes to you, you need to test it to scripture because it might be a demon out to deceive you. The bible says that satan can appear to people as an angel of light and before he fell he was the most beautiful creation in heaven so that's why he is so deceptive. They will think hes legit and start the new religion he tells them to like Mormonism for example.
gilbert4321 3 months ago
So basically what he is saying is that he is some sort of spiritual "peeping tom."
auntstacey123 3 months ago
Sp basically God gives Mark Driscoll prophetic pornographic visions huh? Mark Driscoll is an idiot.
MaharlikaAWA 3 months ago
At 2.10 he subtely flashes the baphomet sign...watch his hands...i've seen him throw up this sign in most of his vids and true believers know that it is a satanic sign and many satanists have infiltrated the Church. That and the fact that his very off on a lot of his doctrine/theology is very alarming.
TheHeavenBound 4 months ago
why so many dislikes ????? i dont get it
are u satanist ? do u not belive in god ? do u not beleve that god is allmighty ?
if so than can't he give u visions or pointers ?????
Rusko4000 4 months ago 13
@Rusko4000 The dislikes are from demons. Well, just kidding. But in a way I'm not.
sorenkierkegaard2008 3 months ago
@Rusko4000
shempmocurly 2 months ago
@Rusko4000 Because this man is spouting absolutely untenable nonsense. And I have no reason to believe in any god.
777Atum 2 months ago
Is he a warlock?? You are talking about it now aren't you??
saveyoursoulyt 4 months ago
@Kakkapaja Everyone has their own opinion. God is the only one who knows who's right. We will find out for sure on judgement day. That's a guarantee! Something I never thought, whether it was right or wrong, did he have to go into such detail? All he had to say was, he saw a vision of her committing adultery. Then all this back & forth debating would never have started. God bless!
TypeOfan 4 months ago
erm...interesting...
stop08it 4 months ago
I pray for the people who don't understand the meaning of this video. This man is preaching the word of God, and trying to help people who are too scared to talk about these things to other people. Understand this is because he wants to show Jesus to people, and help people come to know him.
jordongrangruth 4 months ago 3
[pt.1] The acts he described - do you consider those porn? If so, that'd be a sickening indictment of you, Phil. Porn is material used for sexual arousal. I would never call such acts porn, and I imagine he wouldn't either. Do you see roadkill & call it steakhouse fare? How ridiculous. Your term is more than unfortunate - it's false accusation. And while the ends don't justify the means, if evidence bears out the claims, & gospel fruit resulted, consider what you'd actually be judging.
brinkwerks 4 months ago
[part2] Also, if you believe in the God of spiders & mosquitos, consider His decrees aren't subject to our tastes. You're living ages ago & a man who tells you God told him to go naked. Or bake on feces. That God killed his wife & told him not to mourn. Or that He said to marry a whore to make a point. How would you judge him? Kook? Not to justify such things today, but that's Bible. God has done much more jarring things than what Driscoll says here. It just seems strange to us.
brinkwerks 4 months ago
Possessed by the disney demons?!
YahuwshuaForever 4 months ago
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mickey mouse shirt?!
amyyyamy 4 months ago
On Wretched with Todd Friel, Todd told what Phil Johnson, John MacArthur's editor, said. He called it, "Pornographic Divination". God forgives our sins & throws them into the sea of forgetfulness, so why would He dig them back up & show detailed visions of them to a pastor?
TypeOfan 4 months ago 2
@TypeOfan wait...don't confuse forgiveness with erasure of the past. Just because you're saved doesn't mean you can't see stuff that would bother you.
dougmoerhoffman 4 months ago
@TypeOfan Sometimes, past sin needs to be brought into the light by God because we would never bring them into the light ourselves. Obviously, these people wanted resolution/improvement in relationships, but they were treating symptoms, not the root of the cause. In cases like that, God will bring the root of the cause to someone's attention (as He did with Pastor Mark).
djking2d 3 months ago
@djking2d I agree, but the point is, why tell the church every detail with kids possibly present. If it was actually from God, he could've said she had an affair or committed adultery. Remember, he said he was a cessationist. They don't believe any of the spiritual gifts exist anymore. Oxymoron?
TypeOfan 3 months ago
@TypeOfan Where did he ever say he is a cessationist? I've never heard anything to indicate he doesn't believe the spiritual gifts exist anymore. In fact, everything I've heard on the topic indicates he, and the church genuinely encourage discovering your spiritual gifts. When kids get to about 10 years old, they attend adult services because they believe kids need to contribute to the church & mature into adults. Also, this seems to be the series where these topics were done at the last sermon
djking2d 3 months ago
@djking2d It was cut out of this vid for whatever reason, odd since it was from his negative reviewer, but it was included when I saw it on Wretched with Todd Friel. Sorry I'm causing so many offenses. I should never have posted anything. There are so many heretics out there, I feel like I need to help warn against them (symptom of watching Wretched). Maybe we should focus more on the Gospel & do what we were called to, Love one another.
TypeOfan 3 months ago
@TypeOfan of the day for Mark. He only speaks about such things after giving warning to parents before the sermon in the church, as well as a disclaimer for people to know before watching-as long as it is uploaded by mhcseattle. So, I think its best to find the whole sermon, and listen to that before condemning him.
djking2d 3 months ago
@djking2d booklet call "Porn Again Christian," which is available for all men for free. Funny thing is you used the sewage water analogy, which is used in his booklet, and you didn't even know it. Stop being ignorant, and do your research. Outsiders don't respect Christians because they talk about a bunch of crap without knowing what they're saying. In addition, Christians attack each other far more than they love each other. What did Jesus say the world would know we are Christians by? Jn13:35
djking2d 3 months ago
i was wondering why hi has a shirt wth the picture of a disney carater on it.
disney !!!! there is some questions about it what god that they serve.
is anybody with me?????
lousaleal 4 months ago
@lousaleal Yes, i'm with you on that. The disney character is symbolic of MK-Ultra mind control. It's deep stuff. You can do some research on that if you want to.
TheHeavenBound 4 months ago 2
Why do I get the impression he whacks off to those visions?
all7days 4 months ago
The gift of discernment is real.
Perhaps this man should be more careful about which details he recounts to his congregation. Then again, perhaps the person posting this video should, likewise, be more charitable about posting such details on the Internet. If Driscoll's sin is X, Johnson's is 17,000X.
To post this video clip, devoid of context, for the purpose of maligning the pastor who preached it, is deeply, morally wrong. PhillipRJohnson ought to be ashamed. But he won't be.
philWynk 5 months ago
@philWynk PhillipRJohnson ought to be ashamed for pointing out the lies and depravity of someone in a position of trust? Sorry, it doesn't work that way- Thank God it doesn't work that way.
ideologger 4 months ago 2
@ideologger Look, I understand that you think it's "depraved" to talk about sex (God doesn't, but the hyper-religious think He does) but what "lies" are you talking about?
People ought to be ashamed of accusing others of lying when they are not lying. People ought to be ashamed of calling others "depraved" when they are not depraved.
And if Johnson thinks this is depraved, why is he posting it where 18,500X can see it? He's fine with depravity when using it to malign somebody? Hypocrite...
philWynk 4 months ago 3
Driscoll got a vision of a woman laying on her back, taking off her clothes and a man climbing on top of her .... This is clearly not a vision from God. Avoid Mark Driscoll.
fourbyfourblazer 5 months ago
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JJDSampson 5 months ago
@fourbyfourblazer Why is it 'clearly' not from God? You may find this discussion on cessationism to be of interest; it's a dialog between Pastor Driscoll and Pastor Wilson: vimeo(dot)com/29820825
JJDSampson 5 months ago
@JJDSampson The problem is that when a false prophet decides he's a new Christ (anointed by God) he's no longer able to discern fantasy from reality. He plays out a rape fantasy in his head, and in the battle of his own perverse desires and self-hatred deigns to project that fantasy into reality and into the past. Thankfully, folks like Drischoll are usually just lying about the congregants, spinning yarns- lives are destroyed by false allegations and families are ripped apart.
ideologger 4 months ago
@ideologger ideoblogger, had you watched the video hosted on vimeo that I referenced you would have found my answer before even asking your question. Your concern is with somebody who has no accountability, which is not the case with Driscoll. Mark stated clearly in his dialogue with Pastor Wilson that he speaks with his elders regarding any suspicions or visions he may have had - acknowledging that he himself could be in error and wrong. False prophets don't seek the counsel of godly men.
JJDSampson 4 months ago 7
hes talking about gift of diserment a spirtual gift that God uses to speak in people lifes. God gives it to u for a specfic reason to help that person, to bring that person to repentance or that is what he is talking about I love pastor mark driscoll very spirtual trained praise God for pastor mark!
aarmil02 5 months ago
We just published an interview with Mark Driscoll (Doug Wilson interviewing) talking about Spiritual Gifts & Cessationism.
CanonWired 5 months ago
Mark Driscoll is a really good pastor. But taking clips of a sermon out of context can make it look like Mark, or any pastor really, look bad. He has a channel mhcseattle and there you can find all his videos, and he has links to the full sermon. He might be telling a story to help illustrate a point, but if we just show the story he told and nothing else, it makes him look like a false preacher because it makes it look like he never mentions Jesus.
natbrain 5 months ago
@natbrain It doesn't matter how much he abuses the name of Jesus- a witch is a witch and false prophet is a false prophet.
ideologger 4 months ago
@ideologger You seem to think any exercise of the miraculous is witchcraft -- even though Jesus said His followers would do such works in His name, and miracles are mentioned as present in at least 5 of the churches to which Paul wrote letters. I don't see anything in the gospels or in the writings of Paul, John, Peter, or Jude suggesting that there's anything wrong with miracles. So where are you getting this hatred of yours toward the miraculous?
philWynk 4 months ago
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@ideologger he's not a witch or a false prophet. Go to mhcseattle channel on youtube. You can watch clips of his sermons. When you see them, you'll see he loves Jesus a lot and he's for real.
natbrain 4 months ago 11
@natbrain ...a LITTLE leaven leveneth the WHOLE lump...God Hates a mixture of good and evil , what he is doing is NOT discernment it is DIVINATION and that IS witchcraft
shempmocurly 3 months ago
@shempmocurly before you judge him, have you seen any of videos he's posted of his preaching? mhcseattle is his youtube channel, check it out. He's not a witch. He loves Jesus. Don't watch any Mark Driscoll videos other than the ones on his channel mhcseattle, then you can make a judgement.
natbrain 3 months ago
This needs to go viral, then everyone could see who this pedophile really is.
earlybirdie100 5 months ago
Hmm why am I finding this hard to believe :P
HerGlassBones94 5 months ago