@Guacamole4sho there was such a thing as plate armor protection for the groin and buttocks, but most armors didn't have that because that would make it impossible to sit down or to ride a horse. In battle as long as you had a couple of buddies watching your back you could prevent someone from sneaking up behind and poking you in the rump, so most knights and men at arms only needed some chain mail hanging over those parts. The groin certainly was a target, but they were trained what to expect.
@xxTeutonicKnightxx Thanks, that's a good observation. I think its because the knights were fighting on foot in the fechtbuch you saw them in, and harnesses not designed for riding could have those extra plates. The suit in the video is a riding harness, which explains why there's no special groin or buttock extensions. In this partcular case he doesn't have faulds or tassets either, although those could work on a horse because you aren't sitting on them and they split at the groin.
@DragonTrixter about 45 lbs for well made... 50 - 60 for munition style harnesses (made from lesser quality metal in a more robust style). Depending on how fit she is, but if im being judgemental I would say probably no. It would take some getting used to for any small framed woman. I mean this in the most respectful sense, she would be able to hold the weight but not run/fight effectively until she got used to it. You develop incredible core strength wearing it.
It was really good for you to take the initiative in making this video! Thanks for this. But I have some sugestions:
1- the cameraman sould try and make it better on keeping the focus the next time;
2- you should make another video with the complete 14th century set;
3- your attitude, sir, to that lady didn't felt good at all. Try and be more kind with her, for I see she was kind to you and you are not made of gold.
The armour is a mid/late 15th century German Gothic kit. Armour prices vary greatly depending on what type of steel was used, what thickness steel was used and who made the kit. Armour made in the former Soviet republics is decent, and rather inexpensive (about $3000-4000 for a full kit.
@hathiphnath Well, that's where you usually have a horse. Honestly: There were mail skirts or trousers that protected the groin - at least a little. As for the backside of the legs, well, you wouldn't turn your back to your opponent, would you? There were, however, particular suits of armour for special occasions. Armour for tournaments on foot had deeper faulds and also protection to the backside of the legs.
@DierkHagedorn Yes, I understand that your armour couldn't be rigid if you wanted to fight or ride, but I'm still amazed how large portions were left uncovered. I don't buy this "wouldn't turn your back" argument as that seems to assume that the armour was designed for single combat, not for the battlefield and even in single combat, I think it would be dangerous to leave that much of your body uncovered and make it a very appealing target for dagger thrusts when you're being grappled.
@hathiphnath The suit of armour I wear is based on a riding harness. So it would be next to impossible to protect the groin or the backside of the legs with steel because that's where you sit on the horse. You would lack sensitivity and would be hindered to steer your mount. Once you are unhorsed, you have to deal with what you have, of course. Therefore again: There were specific armours for specific purposes in certain times. There is nothing as THE armour that fits all needs everywhere.
@DierkHagedorn I'm guessing that the part of the leg that touches the horse depends on how high the stirrups are, but wouldn't you be touching the horse with the inner parts of your thighs, rather than with the backside?Thanks for the replies!
@DierkHagedorn I was wondering if you could tell me where I can find a shop that takes custom orders, what I mean is they can design a custom harness for you. I know there are a few shops like that but I have no idea where to look.
@SuperSylar1 That depends largely on where you live. For it is absolutely essential to go to at least one fitting. And to travel to the Czech Republic if you live in Australia for instance might be a bit expensive. I might have an appropriate link, however.
@SuperSylar1 I'm sorry but I only found very few links. medievalrepro. com is quite expensive but it definitely looks good. flarcheveque. com looks promising too. wassonartistry. com is situated in Long Island Sorry, I couldn't find more
@SuperSylar1 I have a list of armorers on my website. YouTube won't let me post a link, but my website is my YouTube user name followed by dot com and then type a slash followed by scaarmor
Does the woman just not have a complete suit here or is what she's wearing more typical of a what a man of arms of more modest means would typically wear?
thats a german armour doesn it?
dfghj241 1 month ago
@dfghj241 are you retarded or something?
bsapaka 1 month ago
@bsapaka no! but are you? i mean you gotta be to ask questions like that at random guys you dont know!
dfghj241 1 month ago
If what happen bullet hit knight armor?
timcrn 2 months ago
@timcrn THE ARMOUR HAVE MAGICAL PROTECTION AGAISNT BULLETS, I WOULD RECOMMEND ICE ARROWS AGAISNT SUCH A ARMOUR!
dfghj241 1 month ago
most armour have tassets even for riding...or a deeper fould ..even the beckplate schould have fouds tha slide over the sadle in the back
baldwinthefox 3 months ago
most armour have tassets even for riding...
baldwinthefox 3 months ago
It's also easily a gothic suit for it has a bevor and sallet
brisngrairsoft 4 months ago
no groin or butt protection?
Guacamole4sho 5 months ago 4
@Guacamole4sho there was such a thing as plate armor protection for the groin and buttocks, but most armors didn't have that because that would make it impossible to sit down or to ride a horse. In battle as long as you had a couple of buddies watching your back you could prevent someone from sneaking up behind and poking you in the rump, so most knights and men at arms only needed some chain mail hanging over those parts. The groin certainly was a target, but they were trained what to expect.
deathbyazure 5 months ago
@deathbyazure oh ok that makes sense =]
Guacamole4sho 5 months ago
@deathbyazure Well I seen armors in some manuscripts like Hans Talhoffer's manuscript shows armor protecting those parts...
xxTeutonicKnightxx 2 months ago
@xxTeutonicKnightxx Thanks, that's a good observation. I think its because the knights were fighting on foot in the fechtbuch you saw them in, and harnesses not designed for riding could have those extra plates. The suit in the video is a riding harness, which explains why there's no special groin or buttock extensions. In this partcular case he doesn't have faulds or tassets either, although those could work on a horse because you aren't sitting on them and they split at the groin.
deathbyazure 2 months ago
@Guacamole4sho its a horsemans suit, foot suits would have groin protection, but not horsemans :)
ajcvikingboy 4 months ago
If the woman was wearing a full armour (chainmail included) how much would it weigh and could she move in it ?
DragonTrixter 6 months ago
@DragonTrixter about 45 lbs for well made... 50 - 60 for munition style harnesses (made from lesser quality metal in a more robust style). Depending on how fit she is, but if im being judgemental I would say probably no. It would take some getting used to for any small framed woman. I mean this in the most respectful sense, she would be able to hold the weight but not run/fight effectively until she got used to it. You develop incredible core strength wearing it.
tantorecords 3 months ago
geezus thats so badass!!!
reyshakquit 6 months ago
the bloak gettin out his van must be like WTF?
loolfactorie 7 months ago
It was really good for you to take the initiative in making this video! Thanks for this. But I have some sugestions:
1- the cameraman sould try and make it better on keeping the focus the next time;
2- you should make another video with the complete 14th century set;
3- your attitude, sir, to that lady didn't felt good at all. Try and be more kind with her, for I see she was kind to you and you are not made of gold.
galenlynore 7 months ago
Nice plate. Good looking sallet. I like it.
Dizzyfinger 8 months ago
stupid question what kind of armor and how much and were did you buy it
digitalurbantactics 10 months ago
@digitalurbantactics
The armour is a mid/late 15th century German Gothic kit. Armour prices vary greatly depending on what type of steel was used, what thickness steel was used and who made the kit. Armour made in the former Soviet republics is decent, and rather inexpensive (about $3000-4000 for a full kit.
EvilxMerlin 8 months ago
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digitalurbantactics 10 months ago
What about protecting the back sides of the legs and the groin?
hathiphnath 10 months ago
@hathiphnath Well, that's where you usually have a horse. Honestly: There were mail skirts or trousers that protected the groin - at least a little. As for the backside of the legs, well, you wouldn't turn your back to your opponent, would you? There were, however, particular suits of armour for special occasions. Armour for tournaments on foot had deeper faulds and also protection to the backside of the legs.
DierkHagedorn 10 months ago
@DierkHagedorn Yes, I understand that your armour couldn't be rigid if you wanted to fight or ride, but I'm still amazed how large portions were left uncovered. I don't buy this "wouldn't turn your back" argument as that seems to assume that the armour was designed for single combat, not for the battlefield and even in single combat, I think it would be dangerous to leave that much of your body uncovered and make it a very appealing target for dagger thrusts when you're being grappled.
hathiphnath 10 months ago
@hathiphnath The suit of armour I wear is based on a riding harness. So it would be next to impossible to protect the groin or the backside of the legs with steel because that's where you sit on the horse. You would lack sensitivity and would be hindered to steer your mount. Once you are unhorsed, you have to deal with what you have, of course. Therefore again: There were specific armours for specific purposes in certain times. There is nothing as THE armour that fits all needs everywhere.
DierkHagedorn 10 months ago
@DierkHagedorn I'm guessing that the part of the leg that touches the horse depends on how high the stirrups are, but wouldn't you be touching the horse with the inner parts of your thighs, rather than with the backside?Thanks for the replies!
hathiphnath 10 months ago
@hathiphnath Well, I guess the leg is covered to about three quarters. That should do.
DierkHagedorn 10 months ago
@DierkHagedorn Ah, from the video it seemed more like half than three quarters. Thanks for the info!
hathiphnath 10 months ago
That's a Italian version of a Gothic harness isn't it?
SamGCampbell 1 year ago
@SamGCampbell Well, one is Italian (Thresa's), on is German - Gothic (mine). None of them is a version of the other.
DierkHagedorn 11 months ago
@DierkHagedorn I was wondering if you could tell me where I can find a shop that takes custom orders, what I mean is they can design a custom harness for you. I know there are a few shops like that but I have no idea where to look.
SuperSylar1 10 months ago
@SuperSylar1 That depends largely on where you live. For it is absolutely essential to go to at least one fitting. And to travel to the Czech Republic if you live in Australia for instance might be a bit expensive. I might have an appropriate link, however.
DierkHagedorn 10 months ago
@DierkHagedorn well the thing is, I live in Canada, and the only shops I find only hold random armor parts and don't take custom orders.
If you do have a link or something like that it would be much appreciated.
SuperSylar1 10 months ago
@SuperSylar1 I'm sorry but I only found very few links. medievalrepro. com is quite expensive but it definitely looks good. flarcheveque. com looks promising too. wassonartistry. com is situated in Long Island Sorry, I couldn't find more
DierkHagedorn 10 months ago
@SuperSylar1 I have a list of armorers on my website. YouTube won't let me post a link, but my website is my YouTube user name followed by dot com and then type a slash followed by scaarmor
captainzorikh 7 months ago
Does the woman just not have a complete suit here or is what she's wearing more typical of a what a man of arms of more modest means would typically wear?
digvoldon 1 year ago
@digvoldon
She told earlyer that she traveled by plane...limited place in suitcases for armour ;-)
Pyriander 1 year ago
How much did that kit cost?
SamGCampbell 1 year ago
@SamGCampbell i been looking to buy one. the ones i found are through $500-$8,0000. depending how they are make am guessing.
ginzers1234 10 months ago
I like your doublet and she's quite pretty.
Cstrife234 1 year ago
so ¿is a myth that the knight who falls from his horse cannot stand up without help?
VegaEtereo 1 year ago
@VegaEtereo its lighter then modern marine gear
sewagedweller 1 year ago
@VegaEtereo: Yes, that is entirely a myth. It certainly is not comfortable, but by no means impossible.
DierkHagedorn 1 year ago
@DierkHagedorn i see. thanks.
VegaEtereo 1 year ago
@VegaEtereo absolutely
archerypea 1 year ago
yeah, first viewer \o/
PuddingblendeR 1 year ago