Abdul Raheem Green refuted on 'why I didnt become shia'

[chamzyy]

best video on youtube

[isl06063087]

The video itself isn't worth commenting on but you say that "do we curse them? No...". This may be true for you but Shi'as are known for their curses against the Holy Companions. The Shi'as attack many groups within sunnis including deobandis and salafis saying that they harbour hatred towards the ahlulbayt, yet type into youtube or google "sunni curses so-and-so of the ahlulbayt" or even talks ill of them and see how many results you get. On the other hand, when you type Shi'a curses Sahaabah..

[Mansoor2108]

Refutation?

[Mansoor2108]

@shiasoldier786 how is this a refutation

[Naive991]

i hate shia, they r black sheeps in our society, disgusting people

[GoodDeedsLeadTo]

Attributing tradition to submission (Islam) is way to hell, regardless of anything. The tradition being intermingled as part of submission (Islam) is what the prophet did not witness in his 23 years life as the last messenger. Traditions came from events which the prophet (peace) did not witness in all cases. Followers of earlier true religions also fell into the same trap, Christians, Jews. Followers of Islam should not repeat history.

[GoodDeedsLeadTo]

Our response to the dominant frequency will break or make us in the akhira. Dealing with other frequencies as dominant frequency is an impulse from shaitan to cause divisiveness & contention among Muslims. It is a test from Allah. We should always ask ourselves where is the test, where is the distraction from shaitan to cause contentions, & protect ourselves from tribulations..

[GoodDeedsLeadTo]

As Muslim we should not contentious at all. We should focus on what matters for salvation, Allah and his rasool, and his 23 years authentic model. Controversial matter should not become the dominant frequency of Islam. Dominant frequency of Islam is the Quran, Prophet's live as model for humanity, prophet's 23 years as the last messenger during which he received the revelations. Allah will not hold us accountable for other frequencies.

[GoodDeedsLeadTo]

Let us keep things where they belong, and not intermingle. Prophet (peace) & Allah is the goal of all of his followers, including Ali (ra). Ali (ra) & all other Muslims (family members, sahaba, ta ba een, sa liheen) served as conduit to the message. They lived their lives following the example of the prophet. What they conveyed to us is what they learned from Allah & his rasool. It is not their own. It is inspired by prophet's life.

[GoodDeedsLeadTo]

Let us all shun sects & divisiveness & be united as first Muslim & last Muslim. Not mix up the 23 years true message with events the prophet did not witness as messenger of Allah. All Muslims in sitting position, pray to Allah, to send salutations & blessing to the prophet, Ibraheem & their families, any way. Islam that we would be held accountable for, is prophets experience over the 23 years.

[GoodDeedsLeadTo]

Life is short, and uncertain, so the focus should be to please Allah, overcome desires, help other human beings, neighbor, Muslim brothers & sisters, all to please Allah, & earn reward. Sectarian attitude, the attitude of divisiveness, is recipe for disaster in akhira. And, there is no free lunch. You cannot have the cake & eat the cake. You cannot be a pervert or slave of desires, oppressor in this life, even if you are happy go lucky & expect to get jannah.

[GoodDeedsLeadTo]

It is not about I am right & you are wrong, or vice versa. It is about the ultimate truth, its adoption in our lives, and success once we enter our graves due to that, and mercy of Allah. It is interest to not dwell in ahle this & ahle that. There was one Islam over the 23 years, and it one today. There was one kind of Muslim over the 23 years, & it is today. 23 years alone should be the focus to know the teachings, rest is distraction, taking away from the main purpose, to achieve salvation.

[GoodDeedsLeadTo]

Instead of dwelling in labels, our duty is to read Quran, track the life of the prophet over his 23 years, learn lesson from it, adopt it.

The fundamental problem is obsession with top down, & not its breakdown or to discover the truth, adopt the truth bottom up.

Saying, I am ahle this or ahle is not what Allah wants from us. Allah wants total submission with prophet's life as the model from over the 23 years. Is this not what Allah expected from those who lived with him in the 23 years?

[mmawer]

Muhammad said: "The best of the people are my generation, then those who come after them, then those who come after them."

Ten persons will go to Paradise. Abu Bakr will go to Paradise, Umar will go to Paradise, Uthman will go to Paradise, Ali will go to Paradise, Talha will go to Paradise..

"Do not fear," he said to Abu Bakr, "certainly Allah is with us."

Of all the companions, Abu Bakr had the honor of being with the Prophet during the most critical days of his life

[mmawer]

"Those who believed, and went into exile and fought for God's cause with their property and their persons, as well as those who sheltered and helped them,- these shall be friends, one of another."

"and be not divided among yourselves; and remember with gratitude Allah's favour on you; for you were enemies and He joined your hearts in love

"those who are with him are strong against unbelievers but compassionate among themselves.]

[lulupingpong]

name me a single scholar worth his weight in anything or who has made any significant contribution to the religion of Islam or a single convert worth mentioning who has accepted the shi-ite version of Islam. Its an unfortunate situation that the shi-ites are really there to cause 'fitna' in the muslim world.

[alaweeealli]

very ill informed video estakforallah

[covertbabo12]

Oh you left out Sistani as your leader, I wonder why

[salahudin720]

Imam Al-sajjad (as) said: If you see people of suspicion and innovation – other than shias or new shia – then show disownment from them and abuse them much, backbit them, make false accusations on them – that is, backbite them by attributing lies on them and make false accusations on them ('Buhtaan')[tanbiah al-khawatir v.2 p.162 – wasael al-shia v.11 p. 508 – Nahj al-intisaar p.152]

Here is the tactic used which is pinned on Imam Sajjad (ra) who, I am sure, is innocent from preaching it!

[musa285]

shia are kafir. Quran declared this "who abuse Sahaba RA are kafir" (Surah Fath verse 29) ...... any one who defuse the Sahabiat of Abu baker RA they r kafir becoz Quran give the evidence of the Sahabizat of Abu baker RA. (Surah Tuba verse 40). ............ Any one who abuse Aysha RA they are glad news to going Hell same like Abdullah ibne Obai munafiq (Surah Noor verse 11) ............ shia is not muslim . shia are worst kafir ...... Abu Baker RA is the First Caliph .

[loveforsahaba]

@shiasoldier786

you tell me what the shias have taught you then

ALL YOU CAN DO IS TALK BUT WHEN IT COMES TO GIVONG OUT PROOF YOU SHOW NOTHING AT ALL

SHOW ME FROM THE QURAN WHAT YOU BELIEVE IS RIGHT

SHOW ME FROM THE QURAN AISHA IS A KAFIR SHOW ME THAT ABU BAKR UMAR USMAN (MAY ALLAH BE PLEASED WITH THEM ALL) ARE KAFIR IM READY JUST WAITING FOR YOU REPLY

[loveforsahaba]

the idiot whos reading in the background mustve learnt his tajweed frim the best shia madrasa there is you guys talk so big at least fix you tajweed up as far as i am aware there is no iktilaaf in that you bunch of idiots

[linkinpark9281]

@loveforsahaba he was saying du'a not reading Quran :) , please , refrain from separating Islam , we are all just trying to make Allaah happy :) , those who keeps trying to know who is right and who is wrong from shia or sunna will become extremists and extremists go to hell , may Allaah preserve me and you and all muslims from ever tasting its flames , i am a shi'e , and I love you all for the sake of Allaah , except if u have made anything that makes u kafir or hated in Allaahs sight

[chenarooo]

@Notgoingnowhere and where in the Qur'an does Allah say's hit your self until you bleed or where did prophet (saw) say, mention Ali(ra) in the shahada or in the azan ?!

im not a sunni, im a muslim who only follows the Qur'an and the HADEETHS of the prophet(saw). Another name for me is then SUNNI.

are you shia, watch this /watch?v=bwJ8cz46fEI&feature=p­layer_embedded#at=82

[GoodDeedsLeadTo]

If a personhas seriously vowed to do that, and act accordingly, then it is hard to believe the person would go back. If a person is unsure about what it means to be Muslim,then he would most likely keep thinking, not revert, indulge in sins from time to time, and give Islam direction instead of taking the direction exclusively from Allah and his Rasool.

[GoodDeedsLeadTo]

Reverting to being Muslim means I bow down to the will of Allah against all whims, illegal desires, satanic impulses, evil of one owns self, family & cultural influences, sectarianism, ego, contentiousness, anger, hate, idol, grave and personality worship, invention in the religion;. And, put what Allah and Rasool (messenger) say above everything else, regardless, repent & firmly believe in Allah’s mercy for those who mean it.

[abuhamza1970]

cont/d and if you hold onto these you will never go astray." He never mentioned his family in this hadith - or do you not believe in this hadith since you have your own collections don't you? The Shia have abandoned both the Quran and the Sunnah, so how can you say you are rightly guided? Just as Christians have made Jesus (as) a god, so have you made a god of Ali (ra).It is time for all of you to return to the deen of Allah if you believe in Allah and the last day!

[abuhamza1970]

cont/d Best generation ever raised up from mankind, you enjoin the good, forbid the evil and believe in Allah - 3:110.So how can it be that this best generation for all time, since the Quran is for all time, is now reviled by those in authority of the Shia? Or did Allah make a mistake (aoothobillah) with this verse, and that this verse was no longer  true after his (saw) death? He (saw) said in his final khutba: "I leave you with two things: the Quran and my Sunnah, cont/d

[abuhamza1970]

You are confused. Just because a person is a Sunni, it doesn't mean that you don't love the family of Muhammed (saw). In fact it is obligatory to have love for the prophet and his family. Indeed it is an integral part of the salaah to ask Allah to send peace and blessings on the family of Muhammed (saw) as He did on the family of Ibrahim (as). However, your hatred towards teh companions of Muhammed (even one of them) for whatever reason is misguided since Allah refers to them as the cont/d

[IslamTheLoveOfMyLife]

Come to the straight path ya Shia. Not the crooked road you are on now. Join the majority.

[nilo723]

I can refute all of your arguments except the one about current leadership..I know that Ahmadinejad is a better Muslim than most of our Sunni leaders..

But i can also say this on firm authority, that Shiasm is not the right path..It is a sect formed due to the political differences amongst Muslims..

The only thing i would like to add is that Ali(ra) married his daughter to Umar(ra) to strengthen their family bonds..Just like how Abu Bakr(ra) and Umar(ra) did with the Prophet(pbuh)..

[gullagha]

the whole muslim community cant wait till the week muslim wake up and relise that our religion is getting out of our hand and that the jewish and the west is using this sunni and shia dialouge to make haterd against us

[VerdugoCityRider]

How can we even hear what he is saying? Play the audio before or after the vid.

[tigereye486]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the prophet (SAW), his family and his sahabah were all contemporaries with each other. Unless y'all know something I don't know, everyone of them have been dead for over 1300 years now. Isn't it about time we stop debating who was supposed to lead the Muslims after Muhammad died and focus on who is going to unite the Muslims in our present age? As I have observed neither the Sunni nor the Shia are united and each have several sects/factions within each group

[wallyayad]

what is the name of the qari making the dua in this video?

[TehranRevolution]

@wallyayad Abu Thar Al-Halawaji a.k.a Abather Halawaji

[snaqvi2k9]

@111256able I don't get it...where does it say that abubakr was suppose to be the caliph after the holy prophet(saw)? Cuz wat i heard was that the prophet had said after me is Ali(as)....now don't start ur reply rudely cuz I'm sayin it nicely...

[111256able]

We should unite and forget all the diffsrence of opinion.We take Abu bakar as the leader.After Abu Bakar died,we must give our alligence to Umar!!After Umar died we should give our alligence to Osman.After Osman died we must give our alligence to Ali ibn Abi Talib.We must respect our brothers from sunni belief that there are only 4 kalifa rasidin.,

[calefty101]

hey shiasoldier786 who is reciting the dua2 in the background and where can i find it ?

Imam Ali (A.S) : We, Ahlul Bayt (chosen descendants of the Holy Prophet), hold such central and balancing position in religion that those who are deficient in understanding and acting upon its principles, will have to come to us for reformation, and those who are overdoing it have got to learn moderation from us.

[alfatourist]

Let us promote unity among Muslims to earn success in akhira. Let us have the same basis of unity the prophet exhorted in his 23 years. He passed on the Islam from Allah and exhorted Muslims to do certain things. Every Muslim who was alive in his presence was required to follow nothing but his true sunnah. This wa the only unity acceptable to Allah for success after death. This should not change. let us unite to avoid hell fire & enter jannah, and throw our egos in garbage.

[norrie007]

u absolutely didnt refute mr green at all. in the hadith gabriel came down in the form of a man. cut a long story short, he asked a few questions to the prophet then left. the prophet then asked did u know who that was, it was the angel who came to teach you your religion. then you point out a hadeeth that aishah (ra) narrated and at the same time you shia call her the most wicked names. you use the hadeeth of the companions when it suits you and say there all lies when they refute you.

[jband007]

assalamo alaikom.1:05 i'm sorry but i believe that some shia(maybe a small minority) don't believe in quran but there's not doubt that all shia don't believe neither in sunnah of the prophet (saw) nor the in history of islam . 2:20 all the hadiths about the qualities and virtues of ALI and AL ALBAYT (ra) were narrated by the SAHABA (rh). 4:58 leaders of ahl sunnah are, the PROPHET of mercy (saw)his companion abubakr,his companion omar his companion othman and his companion and cousin ALI (ra)

[ZebaAfghanGurl16]

aww i heard this, i was kinda upset that he didnt studied enough and abuse the beliefs instead of understanding it

[Talebi8me]

Salaam Aleykom,

Nice video mashallah.

One thing I would like to say is completely irrelevant is the point that he made about the Shi'a being the minority. Was the Holy Prophet's TRUE believers ever the majority? I think not. So to even try to use an excuse that because "we are the majority, we hold the truth.." That is in fact, rarely the case.

Beautiful dua btw. :)

May Allah bless you and your family.

Wa salam

[SugarBoii]

Exactly. If majority is right, then non-muslims should be on right path, cuz they are more than muslims. Just a pathetic argument.

[malakoz]

and im talking about sunni and shia, we should start respecting eachother and stand together as MUSLIMS!!!!!!!!

[malakoz]

why does it matter what happened after the prophet(pbuh). dont we all believe that there is one god, allah(swt) and mohammed(pbuh) is the messenger,

prey, be kind, continue all your duties as a muslim who cares about the rest, god is not going to ask you if you stood up and spoke for ali(ass) and stood up for him or fought with your muslim brothers and sisters when the whole world is against us.

peace and unity in islam

salam

[kruger97]

Does anyone know where I can find this Dua?

[shiaGodfather]

let me know if you find it because I'm looking for it's also

[robbedoes1985]

the only ones who seen the prophet are the ones who had no hope left and were desperate for help that their imagination pulled tricks on their minds, there was no prophet in Palestine, there was no prophet in china, there wont come a prophet, imaginary gods will only bring grief death and war.leave gods behind, use your own head, focus on development, nature and technology.

[askafa]

When he speaks of the shia as a small minority he uses an Argumentum ad populum, which means the poor guy can't think with his Aql.

This means that his whole statement about Aql and so is wrong, which means his whole story about coming to Islam was wrong.

Therefore my conclusion is , he's not even of our sunni brethren.

[mohammadmiraei]

amazing stuff just amazing

keep the good work

[istekbal]

How short sighted, i guess you never heard of the Battle of Siffin or the Camel, where Sunni's rallied behind Aicha and Mauwiyah to fight the Caliph Ali. Later on when Mauwiyah managed to take the Caliphate by force, rebelling against the Caliph, he made it mandatory to curse Ali and his family from the grand mosque of Damascus. Besides, ur Afghan, Omar was a pan-Arab leader, during his rule the caliphate was called "Arab Empire". U remind me how narrow minded and undereducated your ideology is.

[musa285]

@istekbal Mavia RA and Ali RA are brother to each other. Mavia RA is praised by Allah as he was Katib e wahi (the man who used to wrote the Holy Quran ) check Surah Abasa verse 13 to 16. and stop to bark against Mavia RA ok. 

[salahudin720]

@istekbal

I am an Afghan and Hadhrat Umar (ra) is closer to me than any other Afghan because Afghans can be Muslims by name or of other faiths. And Muawiyah never made it mandatory to curse Hadhrat Ali (ra). But for argument's sake, if he did, how many Sunni mosques have you been to where they curse Hadhrat Ali (ra)?

How many Shia mosques/gatherings have you been to where they curse the Companions (ra)?

End of the story!!!!

[Muslimah1987]

Very good.

Though it is worth noting that Sunnis dont say that Fatima (ra) lied regarding Fadak -- they too respect her immensely -- rather that she was mistaken and the first Khalifah set her straight.

Since the Shia already believe Fatima (ra) to have infallibility, by logical extension anyone she comes into disagreement with, must be in the wrong, and not she.

That is a little problematic when trying to deduce judgements based on reason and objectivity rather than a pre-determined bias.

[courseworkdue]

@Muslimah1987

Ill say this its refreshing to see a sunni who isnt frothing at the mouth and is capable of rational discussion without refering to terms like rafidi, or screaming and getting emotional

Please stick around and keep watching out videos :-)

[kumail786]

bro great i enjoyed this rebute. me wants more

[hamudydudy1]

when he speaks of the shia as a small minority, well the majority i not always right

[kuttasachin]

@hamudydudy1 majority is right minority is wrong

[hajiothree]

Mashallah. Good work Bro.