This was the last appeareance of the band... A few months later everything was screwed, Steven left and Dizzy came... So there the Illusion line-up was created.
Poor Steven...He didn't even know how to play "Down on the Farm" Izzy and Duff had to give him tips during the song so he could actually play it, and he did alright.
Stevens book "My Appetite For Destruction" is a bloody great read, I recommend and GnR fan to read it, you will find some hilarious shit in it :)
@allfu93 okay, what page did it say that they played it in austrailia? because not all the information in there is correct....they said the uniondale was in new jersey when its in new york
The reel Gunners IS and will always be Steven, Slash, Izzy, Duff and Axl and will be the best too, not matt sorum or gilby they're pretty good too but as good as The ORIGINAL GUNNERS. I hate those people who says that the guns n roses that is now is the reel can go to hell. Just compare the number original 5 band members just listen to the song OMG! The existing what like 9? sounds like shit.
@JeppapeppaN Have you ever tried to listen to the new GN'R? I was like 'New GN'R, bullshit, it's only Axl, with like a hundred other members who can't play shit', but then I saw them in Rock In Rio and I completely changed my mind. Of course they're NOT the real Guns N' Roses, they're definitely not the same, but they're pretty good. Just not as good as their name. Not GN'R, but a good band.
@JeppapeppaN Well said, the Real Gunners will be Axl, Slash, Duff, Izzy and Steven, The new band is a big joke, all of them r hired by Axl and Axl can kick them anytime, These 5 memebers created the Magic of Guns N' Roses, the new hired morons r living on the fame what the old members created, Today people go to see the band cause of Axl cause the people want to hear the old songs. Its so sad that people talk shit about the original band, how the fuck r they even GNR fans if they dont like them?
@JeppapeppaN And im glad that there r the real fans like u who r alive that support the original band members, LONG LIVE AXL, SLASH, DUFF and STEVEN!!! btw Happy Birthday To Steven the best Drummer!!!
It's a bit rough around the edges but i think it sounds fantastic, after all it is an amazing song ...being rough around the edges (sometimes) is one of the reasons why i love them. They may not be the best at their respective job duty (so to speak) but they were and still are the band with just the most sheer raw energy you will ever see... G'N'R for life.
Steven is such an amazing drummer! Much better than Matt, I think. And this slowed down version of Civil War is so fucking great, best performance to me.
Absolutely agree, I think it's the best live version, sounds great when slightly slowed down:_) And Steven's style...hmm...he's got a style:))))) Even if you can't see who is playing, you always can hear and say it's Steven, not Matt on the drumms.
Izzy is totally missing from the mix, and I really wonder what the crowd was thinking at this point? Not the being at farm aid thing, but more about what fans would have been expecting, and to get Civil War instead.
Still; a strong version for a debut, but it needs Izzy during the build to the solos though.
Adler (flying high here) actually sounds pretty good, better than some of the demos out there for this song where he is on take 15 and totally lost.
Adler would have played it better if they did play it at speed,hes a verry fast drummer.Sorum still sucks all major forms,shades,and varietys of ass.he sounds like a sissy girl playing he cant even get the drum foll right he skips it every time.Steven Adler GnR for life.
wrong, it's ok if they played it slow, but steven couldn't keep the timing right, he was not sync with duff.. listen to 4:30-4:45, and 6:56- 7:30 he looses it big time, and not to mention that he didn't get the cuts right. it would've been ok if it was just this time but problems persisted in the studio and rehearsal.. it needed more than 40 takes for him to record just this song, i wonder how may would've been to get You could be mine.. and look at rock in rio... playing 4 1st time means jack!
Adler was a decent drummer. Sorum blows him out of the water on drumming ability. There is a reason Sorum has been an in demand drummer for 2 decades (The Cult, GnR, Velvet Revolver, plus countless guest appearances on albums of big artists), where as Adler fell off the map totally after GnR. And that reason is that Adler isn't near the drummer Sorum is.
Yeah man your right. That's why Sorum has been in big bands both prior to and after Guns and Adler is currently working with who exactly? The only time his name comes up is when people ask him about a reunion with the band, and notice, even Axl isn't asking him back. Sorum will have work as a drummer for the next 20 years if he wants it. Adler? Hell he hasn't had much work since 1990. There is a reason for that.
Little bitch? What's Adler done his time in Guns? A Guns tribute band. That's it. He is soooooo good that no one came calling. Tons of bands needed a new drummer. NONE called Adler. Is that cause he is sooooo talented?
Where as Sorum has been working as a drummer steady since the mid 80's. So he's been working near 25 years as a drummer. But your right he must suck. That's why he gets so much work....FUCKING MORON
ok now that ive rattled your chain Matt Sorum is a verry great drummer but NOT for GnR Adler was and is the drummer for GnR and always will be.and its not about work its about sound so before you call me a FUCKING MORON with your big E-Penis know what someone means ... now go skin retchet your meat tool ASS HAT.
Personally I felt Adler's drumming on the first album was sloppy. Sorum on the Illusion albums was crisp and percise. I like crisp and percise. So for me, Sorum fit much much better. Some agree, some don't and it doesn't matter. Neither one is in the band now and won't be because Axl is a dick. You come trying to rattle peoples chains, just to be a dick, don't be suprised when your called a moron. Ass hat? What in the hell is that?? LOLOL
well sorum did not drum this Adler did so save the drama for your mama .yes even on the album it wasnt sorum.and appetite for destruction is the biggest selling rock album of all time so evidently you dont have a good ear for drumming.mat can not hit the drums like steven and that is what a real drummer does .... and precise ??? sorum cant even do the drum breaks in this verry song and crisp thats only because he taps drums he doesnt play them.like i said a great drummer but NOT FOR GNR.
Biggest selling rock album? Let's see. The Eagles "Greatest Hits 1" and "Hotel California" out sold it. AC/DC's "Back In Black" out sold it. Led Zeppelin's "IV" outsold it. Pink Floyd's "Dark Side Of The Moon", "Wish You Were Here" and "The Wall" out sold it. So check your facts. Secondly, I NEVER SAID Sorum played on this song. I said on the Illusion albums. He played on 29 of the 30 tracks. This is the ONE he didn't. So not a good ear for drumming? Adler's drumming is sloppy at best.
fuck you and learn some fuckin shit just cuz he gets more work means hes so much better but hes only been with two fuckin bands that are worth mentioning guns and VR the only reason you think hes better is because he just jumped right in guns n roses when the were getting huge so the only reason hes even known is because of what steven did
How is it that I think VR is better because he "jumped right in" to Gnr? He plays tighter and more concise. As far as "only being in 2 bands worth mentioning", I liked him in the Cult BEFORE he joined Guns. And he was good in Guns. He also has done a mountain of session work. Adler's drumming is and was always sloppy. There is a reason Guns took no issue running him off. So he had 1 hit album and 1 ep and that's it. And what has he done since? Anything? Hmmm? So fuck you. Sorum is still around!
Oh and by the way, since you want to be a prick, fuck you. I don;t know you. Never spoken to you. So a random fuck you is harsh. But since you want to go that route asshole, right back atcha.
Dang, can you imagine how amazing it would have been to be a GNR fan, thinking that all they played was Appetite-style heavy rock, and then hearing this? I wish I was born 20 years ago...
i disagree. i think he was awesom like he was every single gig gn'r did with him ever since he left it hasn't been rock n' roll just piano thing i ofcours liked some songs on the UYI albums but UYI sucked compared eit appetite or lies
I love the Illusion albums over all. Some great stuff on there that I personally like better than Appetitte, but to me Appetite is good from to back and there are some less than perfect songs on the Illusion albums as well as great ones...("My World" anyone?)
I agree UYI II was the much better album, but My World was just to odd LOL. UYI I had some great stuff on it for sure, but some of it, well, not so much. The best songs, in my opinion, on UYI II didn't even get videos back in the day, which sucks...(Locomotive & Pretty Tied Up). If you liked Appetite though, you should check out the Hollywood Rose demos. I've found a few, and they are great. Songs from Appetite, but even more raw. Friggin' awesome!
Happy Birthday Steven Adler :)
ba773r1na 1 month ago
This was the last appeareance of the band... A few months later everything was screwed, Steven left and Dizzy came... So there the Illusion line-up was created.
revoltijo11 1 month ago
Steven was so high, he can`t play his f***** Drums!!!
TheLewy77 9 months ago
They really need to turn up the amps in this ahah you can barely hear the guitars except during the solos
FabC87 9 months ago
Thanks, this is a much better quality version.
Poor Steven...He didn't even know how to play "Down on the Farm" Izzy and Duff had to give him tips during the song so he could actually play it, and he did alright.
Stevens book "My Appetite For Destruction" is a bloody great read, I recommend and GnR fan to read it, you will find some hilarious shit in it :)
Parag0n 1 year ago
steven just has more feel on drums when steven plays you kno its steven
MrGnr4life 1 year ago
@MrGnr4life well they told matt to keep things simple, especially his drum solos
xtremedrummer3600 1 year ago
this is not true civil war had already been written they played it in australia and the reason i know this is Slash's autobiography
allfu93 1 year ago
@allfu93 what are you talking about? this is the first time playing it
xtremedrummer3600 1 year ago
@xtremedrummer3600 did u just read wat i said?????? SLASH'S AUTOBIOGRAPHY!!!!
allfu93 1 year ago
@allfu93 okay, what page did it say that they played it in austrailia? because not all the information in there is correct....they said the uniondale was in new jersey when its in new york
xtremedrummer3600 1 year ago
The reel Gunners IS and will always be Steven, Slash, Izzy, Duff and Axl and will be the best too, not matt sorum or gilby they're pretty good too but as good as The ORIGINAL GUNNERS. I hate those people who says that the guns n roses that is now is the reel can go to hell. Just compare the number original 5 band members just listen to the song OMG! The existing what like 9? sounds like shit.
JeppapeppaN 1 year ago 4
@JeppapeppaN Have you ever tried to listen to the new GN'R? I was like 'New GN'R, bullshit, it's only Axl, with like a hundred other members who can't play shit', but then I saw them in Rock In Rio and I completely changed my mind. Of course they're NOT the real Guns N' Roses, they're definitely not the same, but they're pretty good. Just not as good as their name. Not GN'R, but a good band.
ba773r1na 1 month ago
@ba773r1na You be trippin? Nah that isn't even listenable, Axl is pretty good, bu the rest of the band is fucking awful...
JeppapeppaN 1 month ago
@JeppapeppaN I just don't compare them to the old Guns N' Roses. They're a whole different band, and in my opinion they don't sound band.
ba773r1na 1 month ago
@JeppapeppaN Well said, the Real Gunners will be Axl, Slash, Duff, Izzy and Steven, The new band is a big joke, all of them r hired by Axl and Axl can kick them anytime, These 5 memebers created the Magic of Guns N' Roses, the new hired morons r living on the fame what the old members created, Today people go to see the band cause of Axl cause the people want to hear the old songs. Its so sad that people talk shit about the original band, how the fuck r they even GNR fans if they dont like them?
kblp 1 month ago
@kblp Amen! :D
JeppapeppaN 1 month ago
@JeppapeppaN And im glad that there r the real fans like u who r alive that support the original band members, LONG LIVE AXL, SLASH, DUFF and STEVEN!!! btw Happy Birthday To Steven the best Drummer!!!
kblp 1 month ago
you fucking idiot Steven wrote this song.
joshjarmusic 1 year ago
@joshjarmusic FALSE. Axl, Slash and Duff wrote it.
Halixman 1 year ago
It's a bit rough around the edges but i think it sounds fantastic, after all it is an amazing song ...being rough around the edges (sometimes) is one of the reasons why i love them. They may not be the best at their respective job duty (so to speak) but they were and still are the band with just the most sheer raw energy you will ever see... G'N'R for life.
TheJmlwb 1 year ago
Good Fucking Night!!
sepulthrax 1 year ago
Steven is such an amazing drummer! Much better than Matt, I think. And this slowed down version of Civil War is so fucking great, best performance to me.
johnnydamnmason 1 year ago 2
@johnnydamnmason
Absolutely agree, I think it's the best live version, sounds great when slightly slowed down:_) And Steven's style...hmm...he's got a style:))))) Even if you can't see who is playing, you always can hear and say it's Steven, not Matt on the drumms.
all the best from Russia!
zeppelin80 1 year ago
1:40
hahaha Steven is funny
RizzRowdy 2 years ago
I wish Axl really could sing in spanish? I never really understood the song 'till now.
Gracias!!
russman1018 2 years ago
still rocks!!
tho Duff is constantly stays near Steven just to sync with him )
aphextwin2000 2 years ago
1990 is rare
killerjut 2 years ago
ready to crash n burn
killerjut 2 years ago 2
i never learn
nyckelmannen 2 years ago
I'm on the nightrain
Disco234jockey 2 years ago
i like this version...maybe its because izzy and steven presence!!..and also...axl is wearing pants!!
Metalllians86 2 years ago 2
haha, axl is wearing pants.... exactly! this version rocks!!
vladamirrrr 2 years ago
Izzy is totally missing from the mix, and I really wonder what the crowd was thinking at this point? Not the being at farm aid thing, but more about what fans would have been expecting, and to get Civil War instead.
Still; a strong version for a debut, but it needs Izzy during the build to the solos though.
Adler (flying high here) actually sounds pretty good, better than some of the demos out there for this song where he is on take 15 and totally lost.
pesmith8768 2 years ago
what year is this
JoshRockabilyPunk 2 years ago
1990
gianluxslash 2 years ago 2
Get it right people. They're playing it slow because it's their very first time playing that song in front of a live audience. Not because of Steven.
cossack77 2 years ago 21
Adler would have played it better if they did play it at speed,hes a verry fast drummer.Sorum still sucks all major forms,shades,and varietys of ass.he sounds like a sissy girl playing he cant even get the drum foll right he skips it every time.Steven Adler GnR for life.
obcreaper 2 years ago
@obcreaper
Bullshit ! Man ? they play two different styles, use you're motherfuckin' ear's !
kaaremann 2 years ago
@kaaremann yeah they play two different styles Adler plays Rock ... while dip shit should play classical ..... im sorry are you mad ADLER RULES!!
obcreaper 2 years ago
I liked the first performace, for me was the best because the sound is clearly, not like 91-92.
Slash950 2 years ago
wrong, it's ok if they played it slow, but steven couldn't keep the timing right, he was not sync with duff.. listen to 4:30-4:45, and 6:56- 7:30 he looses it big time, and not to mention that he didn't get the cuts right. it would've been ok if it was just this time but problems persisted in the studio and rehearsal.. it needed more than 40 takes for him to record just this song, i wonder how may would've been to get You could be mine.. and look at rock in rio... playing 4 1st time means jack!
dario272 2 years ago
I can barely hear Izzy...
gnrguitar13 2 years ago
hey guys im gonna say a few cuss words so that i can sound cool too.
fuck, bitch!!!!!!!sssssssssssssshiiiiit
jdkaltner 2 years ago 3
I guess they played slow for steven adler huh? weird seeing the original line up playing this song
LedZeppelinKashmir 2 years ago
i got major chills on that first solo for some reason
LedZeppelinKashmir 2 years ago
oh my god.... how much I like SLASH,,,
andrihammet 2 years ago
After 2 strokes from "speedball" Steven has trouble even speaking, sad.
SpaceAceTX 2 years ago
Adler was a decent drummer. Sorum blows him out of the water on drumming ability. There is a reason Sorum has been an in demand drummer for 2 decades (The Cult, GnR, Velvet Revolver, plus countless guest appearances on albums of big artists), where as Adler fell off the map totally after GnR. And that reason is that Adler isn't near the drummer Sorum is.
danimal97520 2 years ago
Goddamn, I miss this band SO MUCH. It would be a dream of mine to see the original band come together for even just one show.
DirkDiggler1102 2 years ago
listen to it milion times and its still fucking awesome GNR 4-ever
slash0066 2 years ago
izzys volume is awesome here X)
LaResistance4Chan 2 years ago
1990
mlodociany 2 years ago
WATH YEAR IS THIS
slash0066 2 years ago
1990
Slash950 2 years ago
Yes he was better but the name is matt SORUM..
slash19891 2 years ago
um, he was clearly taking the piss with the name matt scrotum.
cos hes fucking gay
Steve92crue 2 years ago
Steven Adler will forever be a better drummer then that poodle haired bitch Matt Scrotum.
cossack77 3 years ago
I totally agree with u,although I really like Matt's job in Velvet Revolver
GunsNrosesAerosmith 2 years ago
Yeah man your right. That's why Sorum has been in big bands both prior to and after Guns and Adler is currently working with who exactly? The only time his name comes up is when people ask him about a reunion with the band, and notice, even Axl isn't asking him back. Sorum will have work as a drummer for the next 20 years if he wants it. Adler? Hell he hasn't had much work since 1990. There is a reason for that.
danimal97520 2 years ago
^^ ass hole ^^ sorum is a piece of shit and plays like a litle bitch
obcreaper 2 years ago
Little bitch? What's Adler done his time in Guns? A Guns tribute band. That's it. He is soooooo good that no one came calling. Tons of bands needed a new drummer. NONE called Adler. Is that cause he is sooooo talented?
Where as Sorum has been working as a drummer steady since the mid 80's. So he's been working near 25 years as a drummer. But your right he must suck. That's why he gets so much work....FUCKING MORON
danimal97520 2 years ago
ok now that ive rattled your chain Matt Sorum is a verry great drummer but NOT for GnR Adler was and is the drummer for GnR and always will be.and its not about work its about sound so before you call me a FUCKING MORON with your big E-Penis know what someone means ... now go skin retchet your meat tool ASS HAT.
obcreaper 2 years ago
Personally I felt Adler's drumming on the first album was sloppy. Sorum on the Illusion albums was crisp and percise. I like crisp and percise. So for me, Sorum fit much much better. Some agree, some don't and it doesn't matter. Neither one is in the band now and won't be because Axl is a dick. You come trying to rattle peoples chains, just to be a dick, don't be suprised when your called a moron. Ass hat? What in the hell is that?? LOLOL
danimal97520 2 years ago
well sorum did not drum this Adler did so save the drama for your mama .yes even on the album it wasnt sorum.and appetite for destruction is the biggest selling rock album of all time so evidently you dont have a good ear for drumming.mat can not hit the drums like steven and that is what a real drummer does .... and precise ??? sorum cant even do the drum breaks in this verry song and crisp thats only because he taps drums he doesnt play them.like i said a great drummer but NOT FOR GNR.
obcreaper 2 years ago 2
Biggest selling rock album? Let's see. The Eagles "Greatest Hits 1" and "Hotel California" out sold it. AC/DC's "Back In Black" out sold it. Led Zeppelin's "IV" outsold it. Pink Floyd's "Dark Side Of The Moon", "Wish You Were Here" and "The Wall" out sold it. So check your facts. Secondly, I NEVER SAID Sorum played on this song. I said on the Illusion albums. He played on 29 of the 30 tracks. This is the ONE he didn't. So not a good ear for drumming? Adler's drumming is sloppy at best.
danimal97520 2 years ago
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Too bad Brain and Frank are ten times better drummers than Steven and Matt, don't you think?
Losemyillusions 2 years ago
fuck you and learn some fuckin shit just cuz he gets more work means hes so much better but hes only been with two fuckin bands that are worth mentioning guns and VR the only reason you think hes better is because he just jumped right in guns n roses when the were getting huge so the only reason hes even known is because of what steven did
Chairbedcouch 2 years ago
How is it that I think VR is better because he "jumped right in" to Gnr? He plays tighter and more concise. As far as "only being in 2 bands worth mentioning", I liked him in the Cult BEFORE he joined Guns. And he was good in Guns. He also has done a mountain of session work. Adler's drumming is and was always sloppy. There is a reason Guns took no issue running him off. So he had 1 hit album and 1 ep and that's it. And what has he done since? Anything? Hmmm? So fuck you. Sorum is still around!
danimal97520 2 years ago
Oh and by the way, since you want to be a prick, fuck you. I don;t know you. Never spoken to you. So a random fuck you is harsh. But since you want to go that route asshole, right back atcha.
danimal97520 2 years ago
Best Quality of this video!
n1ckb99 3 years ago 3
what's up with Axl keep going out of time?
bgrt6243 3 years ago
its cuz its the first time they played it and he doesnt have the performance experiance for the song
techdeckkid46 2 years ago
Dang, can you imagine how amazing it would have been to be a GNR fan, thinking that all they played was Appetite-style heavy rock, and then hearing this? I wish I was born 20 years ago...
AceKing47 3 years ago
Patience came before this, but you're right - they really nailed the slower stuff..
simmons3d 3 years ago
axl is amazing
slayersmp 3 years ago 5
it is good to see the real original band again you know
it wasn't original when steven and izzy were gone and millions of extra people were on the stage
gloople 3 years ago 3
A tradução em Brasileirez cansa.
hugohilario 3 years ago
"All wars are civil wars, because all men are brothers"
François de Salignac
deustomola 3 years ago 18
omg steven... the drugs really took their toll... u were shit! but we still love you for that smile. most genuine rocker ever
KidnapRocks 3 years ago 6
Man, steven was awful this day!
mecetnoca 3 years ago 4
i disagree. i think he was awesom like he was every single gig gn'r did with him ever since he left it hasn't been rock n' roll just piano thing i ofcours liked some songs on the UYI albums but UYI sucked compared eit appetite or lies
gloople 3 years ago
I love the Illusion albums over all. Some great stuff on there that I personally like better than Appetitte, but to me Appetite is good from to back and there are some less than perfect songs on the Illusion albums as well as great ones...("My World" anyone?)
danimal97520 2 years ago
lol i actually like My World xD. great fuckin lyrix in tha one. and i love UYI II, but UYI I is not so great.
gloople 2 years ago
I agree UYI II was the much better album, but My World was just to odd LOL. UYI I had some great stuff on it for sure, but some of it, well, not so much. The best songs, in my opinion, on UYI II didn't even get videos back in the day, which sucks...(Locomotive & Pretty Tied Up). If you liked Appetite though, you should check out the Hollywood Rose demos. I've found a few, and they are great. Songs from Appetite, but even more raw. Friggin' awesome!
danimal97520 2 years ago
Don't damn me is the best on UYI 1
slimyesli 2 years ago
i remember seeint that on tv back in 1990 great
supertedpart3 3 years ago 3
wow great..!!excellent..!! great..!! gr8..!!
chesslove 3 years ago 2
amazing!
patty1free 3 years ago 3