I think Berg started this campaign with commercial interests at heart. I would be looking at his background and establish if HE is a citizen. Next I would review his income since perpetrating a lie. He continues with his accusations because when the media and sheeple hype subsides, he will be at the end of a defamation suit. Berg best be wary of defamation action looming at the end of Obama term. For his sake, he'd better wish for a second term for Obama and amnesia for his followers.
Possibly the scariest thing that no one is realizing is the fact that people in power can do what they want. It's wrong, but true and scary. If they wanted to invent government papers with his name and a seal on it, I'm sure his connections would make that happen.
It frustrates me that people assume you are racist or dumb for wanting correct documentation supplied. My husband is black, my son bi-racial just like Obama and I STILL believe if Obama is a natural born citizen, the motion to supress his documents would never have been filed. Something is being hidden and this will be the next president scandal, and will be read in our children's textbooks years from now if these documents are being hidden for a reason.
yep, I agree, If they keep it simple it boils down to ...why won't he just produce the document? Why is he hidding documents? Prove Berg wrong and just show the document.
I refuse to recognize Barack Hussein Obama as President of the United States of America because he is not a natural born citizen and therefore ineligible according to the U.S. Constitution. The U.S. Supreme Court refuses to even discuss the many lawsuits filed by Philip J. Berg, Alan Keyes and many others. The media refuses to discuss it. Just watch some of the videos on my page. If you agree that the U.S. Supreme court should hear the facts and make a ruling then sign our POLL and "Friend Us" 7
actually Mccain wouldnt be eligible either read your facts guys but he was born in hawaii.. Hilarious.. The race is over get behind our president this is a guy who THINKS HE KNOWS when documents and the court SAYS WHERE HE IS FROM.... DUH!!!! stop listening to dumbass ignorant sore losing idiots that need attention. HONESTLY THIS GUY BACKGROUND GOT CHECKED HARDER THAN I HAVE EVER SEEN IN A PRESIDENTIAL RACE..EVER!!!! if the guy he said hi to a week ago did a crime they linked obama to it smhow
This was bound to happen - white people stuggling to come to terms with a mixed race president. Once Obama has proved he was born in Hawaii, they will be trying something else.
a new video has surfaced on you tube it is called "Kenyan Ambassador Confirms Obama Born in Kenya" Url: watch?v=15hr-JHG-pA (I think,my eyesight isn't what it used to be) The Ambassador says Kenyans are celebrating and it is well known in Kenya where Obama's birthplace is. He mentions the paternal grandmother. The video tape has been picked up by other web sites than you tube. Maybe you won't be ashamed now! Obama lie,lie,lie.
"it is well known in Kenya where Obama's birthplace is".
barbaro52 & clev9980 - You are no doubt convinced Obama is lying about his birthplace. If your statement is true, then Obama will not be sworn in. I, on the other hand, am convinced Obama is telling the truth.
So I have a proposition - those who want to take part please publically message me:
If Obama is proven to be non-US born, I lose. If Obama is sworn in in January, you lose.
Of those who take part, the loser must announce that "They are a slanderous whiney little bitch, who is deluded by crap in the media and forge reality to fit their twisted set of ideals. Furthermore, they like to suck donkey dick on a weekly basis.
Those who are man enough to stick to their convictions, declare that you will enter. Otherwise, fuck off somewhere else because youre obviously not even personally convinced any of these allegations are true.
Obama studied constitutional law at Harvard to not only understand the constitution; but how to subvert it and how to find structural weakness in our judicial process as it relates to the constitution and it's enforcement...wake up people...obama is evil.
We are still signing the petition to congress rallycongress . com/ constitutional -qualification/1244/ stop-obama-constitutional-cris is. Please go to this website and sign. (put the string together)Get proactive and stop the biggest scam in American History.He has refused to give his vault birth cert. If Hawaii has it then prove it to the public.We have no rights they say to ask these questions. Wow when Arnold thought about it the public became outraged. Well get outraged again. Get Proactive
this case is dismissed and berg is very stupid because obama would have to show his citizenship when he was elected to b a mayor or when he applied for law school or when he came back to the US or whenever obama traveled outside the US.... now obama is not just gonna come to berg and give him the birth cetificate cuz berg is nothing but a carppy lawyer.... so lets see how far this goes cuz it seems like its not going anywhere...1
The US president according to the Constitution must be a "natural born citizen" a senator does not have to meet this requirement, for example, Schwartenzger, he can be a governor or senator, but not the president, since he was born in Austria. It is definite that he traveled to Pakistan in 1981 on a different passport, since no American passport holders were allowed to enter Pakistan at that time (Pakistan was under Marshall Law, which didn't allow Americans to enter)
A fax copy of the decision from Judge Surrick was faxed to Mr. Berg from the Judges Chambers, pages 1-36, beginning at 18:09 Oct 24, its clearly notated by the receiving fax, starting at page 01/36. Page 36/36 is marked 18:16 Oct24. Whats interesting is at the bottom.
Phillip is an old guy trying to make a name for himself. Citizens of the United States know that Sarah Palin is not fit to run this country and that if McCain dies, we will be in a real jam
McCain was born on an American army base in Panama and when he was questioned about his right to be president re: natural born American, he ran to the court with his documents. Didn't take a lawyer, just showed the proof, completely the opposite of Obama.
Let's put this to a rest... if he has nothing to hide, then just produce the original birth certificate. It seems to be a simple request. This question - whether he meets one of the three basic qualifications to be eligible to be POTUS - should be addressed and put to rest as soon as possible. While Berg is certainly not without flaws, his argument seems plausible.
He has to become president to declare martial law and take all guns away. Trust your Govt.Obama bill: $845 billion more for global poverty
Democrat sponsors act OK'd by Senate panel that would cost 0.7% of gross national product.Those U.N. protocols would make U.S. law on issues ranging from the 2nd Amendment to energy usage and parental rights all subservient to United Nations whims.
You are mistaken. Let's review, McCain was challenged and released all the legal documents requested immediately without having a suit filed against him. People who have nothing to hide, hide nothing.
SAN FRANCISCO (Legal Newsline)-A John McCain presidency would be illegal because the Arizona senator was not born in the United States, says a lawsuit filed this week by the American Independent Party.
The minor party says it wants McCain's name removed from ballots in California because federal law would bar the former Vietnam War POW from taking office were he to be elected in November, according to the lawsuit -FILED- in U.S. District Court in San Francisco.
Arguments concerning qualifications can be laid before the voting public prior to the election. Once the election is over,they can be raised as objections when the electoral votes are counted. The members of Congress are qualified to adjudicate objections to allegedly unqualified candidates. Judicial review should occur only after the electoral and congressional processes have run their course. Robinson v. Bowen, No. C08-03836 WHA, U.S. District Court,Northern District, California,Sept.16, 2008.
ELVA420:"Judicial review should occur only after the electoral and congressional processes have run their course."
And when it is determined that the man in question was not legally qualified and must be removed? Hum, the legal term "fruit of the posionous tree" comes to mind meaning the "elected" vice president was not legally elected also --- yeah yeah! That's it! Succession! No VP would leave who next in line?
John McCain was born in 1936 at Coco Solo Naval Air Station in the Panama Canal Zone, Panama, to naval officer John S. McCain, Jr. 19111981 and Roberta Wright McCain b. 1912. At that time, the Panama Canal was under U.S. control. You call that U.S. territory? Building on invaded Panamanian land? I just think if you are going to make a stink over one, which you should, and not the other it isn't fair. So let's be fair. Neither are legally qualified if you follow the constitution. Wake^
Elva420 and folks like her have the attitude that the Rule of Law should play no part in the United States Elections.
Comparing the birth of a servicemans child (in a US military hospital on a US military base, in a treaty designated territory of the US) to a man fathered by a Kenyan citizen (maybe in Kenya), a subject of the British crown, later ADOPTED by an Indonesian citizen and listed on school records, in Indonesia, as an Indonesian?
MAkes sense if you live in the State of Confusion.
Obama was born in Hawaii. He is a natural-born citizen. Berg has provided no evidence whatsoever that Obama was born in Kenya. He bases the allegation on internet rumors. His lawsuit which was dismissed demanded proof from Obama in court that he is a U.S. citizen. Obama's Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth has been revealed to the public. Multiple sources confirm its authenticity, yet conspiracy nuts claim with no evidence that it's a forgery. This story is nonsense.
Why wouldn't Obama just have brought his long form when he was in Hawaii last week, if what you say is true? How did Obama get into Pakistan in 1981, when Pakistan was under Marshall Law and American passports holders were not able to enter? Why would Obama even take a lawyer to dismiss the case, rather than just provide the proof requested? When McCain was questioned about his natural born situation, he ran to court to show the necessary docs. This clearly is a just lawsuit.
Where is the evidence that Obama went to Pakistan on an Indonesian passport? In politics you don't dignify smears. That only draws attention to them. The lawsuit was groundless so it was dismissed, thus discrediting Berg. That's why he's so mad. He's been exposed as the nut he is. This same idiot claims to have a tape of Obama's paternal Grandmother who doesn't speak English saying she witnessed Obama's birth in Kenya. Berg is a lunatic!
Obama talks about his trip to Pakistan in 1981, when Pakistand was under Marshall law, so please tell me how did he get into Pakistan? No American passport holders were allowed entry in 1981. Please tell me how he did it?
I can't find a credible source for this claim about Obama visiting Pakistan. All I see are right-wing blogs making the allegation and linking it to this bogus claim about Obama not being a natural-born citizen. When you make a claim you should back it up with a source.
McCain's lawyers filed to dismiss a similar case against him in New Hampshire. The Senate approved a resolution recognizing McCain's right to eligibility to run. The definition of Natural-Born citizen is ambiguous. No such resolution is being afforded Obama because he was born in Hawaii. This has been proven by many credible sources. Berg is trying to get his case recognized because he knows the story alone could cost Obama votes. They already showed his COLB and idiots claimed it was forged.
Then why didn't Obama just get his long form birth certificate when he was in Hawaii, just a few days ago. McCain ran to court with his documentation, without any lawyers trying to dismiss the case. Why wouldn't he just show proof?
Obama has already provided his Certification of Live Birth to FactCheck. org. He doesn't need to prove himself to Berg in court. The case has been dismissed. End of story. And as I already said McCain's lawyers did the exact same thing. You have not provided a source disputing this.
1.Factcheck is not reliable since it is part of the Annenberg Org, which received loads of money from Obama.
2. The court in Phili has dismissed the case, because they say berg has no standing, which means that no private citizen can bring the eligiblity of president issue to court, only the congress or senate can. The case now has been taken to the Supreme Court, and hopefully Obama will have to prove his words, so this in not the end. Where are you, that you cannot search yourself?
1. That's not a credible argument. Factcheck is reputed for being a non-partisan group. Leonore Annenberg, the President of the Annenberg Foundation has endorsed McCain. Factcheck has provided irrefutable proof for the authenticity of Obama's COLB as well as corroborative sources.
2. I'm aware of this. I guarantee you that the Supreme Court will also dismiss this case. Berg has no evidence supporting his claim that Obama was born in Kenya. The burden of proof is on him.
The case was not dismissed due to evidence. It was dismissed due to "no standing" this has nothing to do with evidence, it is about the right to bring a case forward. Please do not spread opinions, rather than facts. How did Obama get into Palistan? What about his registration to the school in Indonesia? Who is Barry AKA Barack? Evidence is great in this case.
If what Berg says is completely lies, why doesn't Obama sue him, for libel? I sure would if someone was spreading lies about me. Please think well before you say that you wouldn't do anything, like Obama is doing.
Pakistan has declared martial law 3 times in its history. First was 1958, then 1969 & latest was 2007 so no where around 1981 it has that and another thing u should look up the meaning of martial law its different everytime and any place it occurs. so abbie or wutever ur name is it seems like u have a great lack of knowledge and ur statements r coming out ur ass with no credibility or truth in it next time come with evidence and dont bother responding cuz I just smashed u.obama 08..1
You are wrong...history is history..In 1981 Pakistan was under Martial Law for fifth straight year. The entire country was under Sharia Islamic Law.
Pakistan was on the banned travel list for US Citizens at the time and all non-Muslim visitors were not welcome unless sponsored by their embassy for official business.
There would be only a few reasons a young Westerner of the Muslim faith would travel to Pakistan in 1981: To Participate in Jihad, which is the duty of every True Believer.
Alright Abbie, I've looked into it. The NY Times source checks out and I even see that there is a Fox News clip with audio of Obama talking about the trip (I don't watch Fox News the are incredibly right biased). But I can find no source for a U.S. travel ban to Pakistan in the 1980s. As it is Obama was born in Hawaii. Neither Berg or anyone else has provided proof otherwise....
Proof disputing that fact. The reason Obama has not sued Berg for libel should be obvious. He's running for President. He cannot afford negative press with votes on the line and suing people only dignifies the claim which attracts the media. Every Presidential candidate has been smeared by character assassins and conspiracy theorists. The practical way to deal with them is to debunk them when they become major stories. Waving a motion to dismiss this case was the most practical thing to do.
Most arguments against McCains eligibility will point to this statute as proof that McCain is not a natural born citizen within the scope of the 14thAmendment.However this statute is very broad. i.e, a child born to parents residing on a military installation in the VirginIslands would be considered a UScitizen by birth because theVirgin Islands are a territory of the USand subject to its jurisdiction.Likewise in 1936 when John McCain was born,thePanamaCanalZone was considered a USAterritory.
Yep, see what they do? Keep us fighting amongst ourselves over the "one or the other" and business as usual for the real powers that be. Also, I just knew you would love that Pissed video. The music is as intense as the video itself. See ya in myspace~
Let's avoid a constitutional crisis? Did I hear that right? The constitution has been decaying since the 16th ammendment in 1913 all the way up to george w bush using it to wipe his ass. as long as republicans and democrats keep us fighting each other we will never know the truth.
We are all exorcising our 1st ammendment right. or are we? The patriot act says we can be jailed for speaking out against the government. oops. Guess I better shut up huh?
The sad part is it was never ratified yet public opinion believes that they really are held accountable to pay federal income tax. It's unconstitutional. We all need to get paid under the table and not file. Personally I don't, but we all need to. Taxing our labor is just unethical, slavery that it seems everyone is blind to. The IRS is scary, but the law is the law. They don't have any case if you have knowledge and they know it.
Obama is definitely hiding something. He will not realease is medical records and cannot produce a birth certificate. We can only hope that this suit gets a fair chance.
My only question is if this is a legitimate lawsuit, then why would the usual fox pundits (Hanity, O'riely etc) not have taken up this cause? With less than two weeks left in the race and McCain on the fast trck back to his Senate seat, you would think that he might take up this line of attack (he's tried everything else...why not just come out and say that Obama can't legally run for President?).
They do not want to 'rock the boat'. Impeaching Bush, holding McCain accountable for his FCC violations, or calling someone out on breaking the law would interrupt business as usual.
In Texas, both parties missed the official deadline to file for a place in the ballot, and even though all other parties are ALWAYS held to the law, the Democrats and Republicans received a special favor and were allowed to register whenever they got around to it.
I am a Republican but come on people Obama's mother was a US citizen so I don't care where he was born, he is a natural citizen in my eyes. Same with McCain and his whole not being a "natural born" citizen.
wrong, they are both illegitimate, and it Does matter quite irrespective of your lack of sense. The fact that you cannot or will not make sense of it doesn't make it insensible.
Absolutely the truth. He showed Berg not one a couple of "altered " birth certificates. Obama is a Liar and a FRAUD.If we can't expect a person to live up the laws of the highest office in this country then we are surely going to hell in a handbasket. Thank you, Mr.Berg. Obama, go ahead and drop out of the race so you don't have to go through the embarrassment of giving up your candidacy by a court order.
Idiots. Doesn't counselor Berg have anything better to do? This was already settled and copies of Obamas birth certificate can be seen if you look it up. Over a million people are dead because of our president and the lies he told to start this war. See what Vincent Bugliosi is working on and stop grasping for excuses to not vote for Obama. There are plenty of real reasons not to. This born in usa thing is stupid.
If I'm anything it's not misinformed. You are a thinking person and that's GREAT and especially for someone your age. To see where I'm coming from please type Federal Reserve Bank History-IN ONLY 10 MIN in youtube search and then search mchillbama
You may find in quite informative. Then tell me who to vote for because you will see there is no real choice. Really. Also check out my channel and find [pissed] on my fav's.
My daughter your age, never listens, -lol so do this ok?
Ok so I assumed, that wasn't very smart, but I do know all about this stuff! I know there is no real choice, that is why I am writing in Ron Paul. To send a message to the government, but first and foremost I feel he is most qualified. I really loved the pissed video!
It is a big deal not to respond to the court to dispute allegations the Plantif wins by default. I want the truth not excuses politicians are making me sick and I don't trust any of them to take them at their word. Our political system is broken!!!!!!!
Goes to show how much research was really done. Obama is a natrually born citizen. Born when his father was here in the US going to school. Being Native American I question the citizenship of everybody else. People should stop hatein everybody here is illigel..according to the constitution. Who in Burg's history applied for citizenship. Should I file a complaint against the caucasian race's right to vote?
wow, really stupid. do you actually believe he would have made it to state,and US senate without showing a birth cert.? do you really think he would have made it through the exploratory committe phase without one? come to think of it,i did hear something about mccain being born on a base in panama. better make him show HIS birth certificate too. because after all he should have nothing to hide,even if the request is blindingly stupid.
Jesus Christ people...you republicans are desperate!! Obama's place of birth has already been researched. There's nothing here folks. Go find something else to do.
I think Berg started this campaign with commercial interests at heart. I would be looking at his background and establish if HE is a citizen. Next I would review his income since perpetrating a lie. He continues with his accusations because when the media and sheeple hype subsides, he will be at the end of a defamation suit. Berg best be wary of defamation action looming at the end of Obama term. For his sake, he'd better wish for a second term for Obama and amnesia for his followers.
sirknight4real 1 year ago
Possibly the scariest thing that no one is realizing is the fact that people in power can do what they want. It's wrong, but true and scary. If they wanted to invent government papers with his name and a seal on it, I'm sure his connections would make that happen.
kmccrone 3 years ago
It frustrates me that people assume you are racist or dumb for wanting correct documentation supplied. My husband is black, my son bi-racial just like Obama and I STILL believe if Obama is a natural born citizen, the motion to supress his documents would never have been filed. Something is being hidden and this will be the next president scandal, and will be read in our children's textbooks years from now if these documents are being hidden for a reason.
kmccrone 3 years ago
yep, I agree, If they keep it simple it boils down to ...why won't he just produce the document? Why is he hidding documents? Prove Berg wrong and just show the document.
newyorkbabydoll 3 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
I refuse to recognize Barack Hussein Obama as President of the United States of America because he is not a natural born citizen and therefore ineligible according to the U.S. Constitution. The U.S. Supreme Court refuses to even discuss the many lawsuits filed by Philip J. Berg, Alan Keyes and many others. The media refuses to discuss it. Just watch some of the videos on my page. If you agree that the U.S. Supreme court should hear the facts and make a ruling then sign our POLL and "Friend Us" 7
NewChristianSoldiers 3 years ago
Comment removed
GurnSi 3 years ago
actually Mccain wouldnt be eligible either read your facts guys but he was born in hawaii.. Hilarious.. The race is over get behind our president this is a guy who THINKS HE KNOWS when documents and the court SAYS WHERE HE IS FROM.... DUH!!!! stop listening to dumbass ignorant sore losing idiots that need attention. HONESTLY THIS GUY BACKGROUND GOT CHECKED HARDER THAN I HAVE EVER SEEN IN A PRESIDENTIAL RACE..EVER!!!! if the guy he said hi to a week ago did a crime they linked obama to it smhow
Ultramanlives 3 years ago
I wounder why they had a black woman report the news
jupiterstarmoonchild 3 years ago
Really? Noone wants to enter the challenge I proposed 2 days ago? But you all seem so sure Obama is lying .... don't you? ;)
Brad28UK 3 years ago
This has nothing to do with race.
Stop using the card.
If this occured with John McCain the media would have a frenzy.
Let time tell the result of the case.
QV5140oz 3 years ago
The Supreme Court has FINALLY agreed to hear the case; I'm not kidding.
Angie2343 3 years ago
really? can you send me the website please! Thank you!
newyorkbabydoll 3 years ago 2
Whoever loses in the Third Circuit appeal will go to the Supreme for what they call "remedy".
Angie2343 3 years ago
This nonsense is a complete waste of good YouTube space.
haltmusic 3 years ago
This was bound to happen - white people stuggling to come to terms with a mixed race president. Once Obama has proved he was born in Hawaii, they will be trying something else.
Fuck i'm ashamed be white sometimes.
Brad28UK 3 years ago
Obama is a traitor. He is a puppet of the CFR and the Trilateral Commission. This is a fact and it has nothing to do with his race.
RandleEl11 3 years ago
a new video has surfaced on you tube it is called "Kenyan Ambassador Confirms Obama Born in Kenya" Url: watch?v=15hr-JHG-pA (I think,my eyesight isn't what it used to be) The Ambassador says Kenyans are celebrating and it is well known in Kenya where Obama's birthplace is. He mentions the paternal grandmother. The video tape has been picked up by other web sites than you tube. Maybe you won't be ashamed now! Obama lie,lie,lie.
barbaro52 3 years ago
"it is well known in Kenya where Obama's birthplace is".
barbaro52 & clev9980 - You are no doubt convinced Obama is lying about his birthplace. If your statement is true, then Obama will not be sworn in. I, on the other hand, am convinced Obama is telling the truth.
So I have a proposition - those who want to take part please publically message me:
If Obama is proven to be non-US born, I lose. If Obama is sworn in in January, you lose.
Brad28UK 3 years ago
Of those who take part, the loser must announce that "They are a slanderous whiney little bitch, who is deluded by crap in the media and forge reality to fit their twisted set of ideals. Furthermore, they like to suck donkey dick on a weekly basis.
Those who are man enough to stick to their convictions, declare that you will enter. Otherwise, fuck off somewhere else because youre obviously not even personally convinced any of these allegations are true.
Let the games begin.
Brad28UK 3 years ago
Obama studied constitutional law at Harvard to not only understand the constitution; but how to subvert it and how to find structural weakness in our judicial process as it relates to the constitution and it's enforcement...wake up people...obama is evil.
clev9980 3 years ago 2
get out
banduril 3 years ago
We are still signing the petition to congress rallycongress . com/ constitutional -qualification/1244/ stop-obama-constitutional-cris is. Please go to this website and sign. (put the string together)Get proactive and stop the biggest scam in American History.He has refused to give his vault birth cert. If Hawaii has it then prove it to the public.We have no rights they say to ask these questions. Wow when Arnold thought about it the public became outraged. Well get outraged again. Get Proactive
KerryisAmerican 3 years ago 2
this case is dismissed and berg is very stupid because obama would have to show his citizenship when he was elected to b a mayor or when he applied for law school or when he came back to the US or whenever obama traveled outside the US.... now obama is not just gonna come to berg and give him the birth cetificate cuz berg is nothing but a carppy lawyer.... so lets see how far this goes cuz it seems like its not going anywhere...1
youngenb123 3 years ago
Young,
The US president according to the Constitution must be a "natural born citizen" a senator does not have to meet this requirement, for example, Schwartenzger, he can be a governor or senator, but not the president, since he was born in Austria. It is definite that he traveled to Pakistan in 1981 on a different passport, since no American passport holders were allowed to enter Pakistan at that time (Pakistan was under Marshall Law, which didn't allow Americans to enter)
abbienetvision 3 years ago
NEWS FLASH
Alleged OBAMA Camp COVER UP in Berg v Obama.
Judge Surrick Received the Decision He Issued!
A fax copy of the decision from Judge Surrick was faxed to Mr. Berg from the Judges Chambers, pages 1-36, beginning at 18:09 Oct 24, its clearly notated by the receiving fax, starting at page 01/36. Page 36/36 is marked 18:16 Oct24. Whats interesting is at the bottom.
SEE FAX COPY tinyurl[.]com/5rla95
SOURCE: tinyurl[.]com/5zkc6g
George Carlin RIP
/watch?v=MsNw0opJBt0
surferpeteinspace 3 years ago
Phillip is an old guy trying to make a name for himself. Citizens of the United States know that Sarah Palin is not fit to run this country and that if McCain dies, we will be in a real jam
Sheall323 3 years ago
yeah so lets get RON PAUL!!!!!!
j0nb0y5 3 years ago
M cain was born in panama so this is funny, neither one is eligible!!
tucanchew32 3 years ago
McCain was born on an American army base in Panama and when he was questioned about his right to be president re: natural born American, he ran to the court with his documents. Didn't take a lawyer, just showed the proof, completely the opposite of Obama.
abbienetvision 3 years ago
No, his lawyers waved a motion to dismiss the case. As far as I know McCain was not even present. Do you have a source for this?
MysticNinjaJay 3 years ago
The links are posted in a different message to you.
abbienetvision 3 years ago
Let's put this to a rest... if he has nothing to hide, then just produce the original birth certificate. It seems to be a simple request. This question - whether he meets one of the three basic qualifications to be eligible to be POTUS - should be addressed and put to rest as soon as possible. While Berg is certainly not without flaws, his argument seems plausible.
standingupfortruth 3 years ago 4
He has to become president to declare martial law and take all guns away. Trust your Govt.Obama bill: $845 billion more for global poverty
Democrat sponsors act OK'd by Senate panel that would cost 0.7% of gross national product.Those U.N. protocols would make U.S. law on issues ranging from the 2nd Amendment to energy usage and parental rights all subservient to United Nations whims.
louis12346 3 years ago 2
P.S. John McCain faces the same lawsuit. He was born in the Panama Canal Zone.
Elva420 3 years ago
You are mistaken. Let's review, McCain was challenged and released all the legal documents requested immediately without having a suit filed against him. People who have nothing to hide, hide nothing.
tnytwister 3 years ago
SAN FRANCISCO (Legal Newsline)-A John McCain presidency would be illegal because the Arizona senator was not born in the United States, says a lawsuit filed this week by the American Independent Party.
The minor party says it wants McCain's name removed from ballots in California because federal law would bar the former Vietnam War POW from taking office were he to be elected in November, according to the lawsuit -FILED- in U.S. District Court in San Francisco.
Tell them they are mistaken.
Elva420 3 years ago
Arguments concerning qualifications can be laid before the voting public prior to the election. Once the election is over,they can be raised as objections when the electoral votes are counted. The members of Congress are qualified to adjudicate objections to allegedly unqualified candidates. Judicial review should occur only after the electoral and congressional processes have run their course. Robinson v. Bowen, No. C08-03836 WHA, U.S. District Court,Northern District, California,Sept.16, 2008.
Elva420 3 years ago
ELVA420:"Judicial review should occur only after the electoral and congressional processes have run their course."
And when it is determined that the man in question was not legally qualified and must be removed? Hum, the legal term "fruit of the posionous tree" comes to mind meaning the "elected" vice president was not legally elected also --- yeah yeah! That's it! Succession! No VP would leave who next in line?
Nancy Pelosi would be President!!!
doctilde 3 years ago
A frivolous PR lawsuit. McCain was born to 2 American parents in a US territory. He is therefore a "natural born" US citizen.
Obama was born to 1 American parent, and it seems in Kenya. Not a "natural born" US citizen.
BoogieWithStew 3 years ago 2
How can you say this is frivolous? Its the constitution! The same reason that Arnold cant run for president!
shinobi71 3 years ago 3
Do you follow the constitution? Hell No!
Sheall323 3 years ago
John McCain was born in 1936 at Coco Solo Naval Air Station in the Panama Canal Zone, Panama, to naval officer John S. McCain, Jr. 19111981 and Roberta Wright McCain b. 1912. At that time, the Panama Canal was under U.S. control. You call that U.S. territory? Building on invaded Panamanian land? I just think if you are going to make a stink over one, which you should, and not the other it isn't fair. So let's be fair. Neither are legally qualified if you follow the constitution. Wake^
Elva420 3 years ago
Elva420 and folks like her have the attitude that the Rule of Law should play no part in the United States Elections.
Comparing the birth of a servicemans child (in a US military hospital on a US military base, in a treaty designated territory of the US) to a man fathered by a Kenyan citizen (maybe in Kenya), a subject of the British crown, later ADOPTED by an Indonesian citizen and listed on school records, in Indonesia, as an Indonesian?
MAkes sense if you live in the State of Confusion.
doctilde 3 years ago
Well said. I am with you.
Sheall323 3 years ago
Obama was born in Hawaii. He is a natural-born citizen. Berg has provided no evidence whatsoever that Obama was born in Kenya. He bases the allegation on internet rumors. His lawsuit which was dismissed demanded proof from Obama in court that he is a U.S. citizen. Obama's Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth has been revealed to the public. Multiple sources confirm its authenticity, yet conspiracy nuts claim with no evidence that it's a forgery. This story is nonsense.
MysticNinjaJay 3 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
open your eyes
pvtvaladez 3 years ago
Open my eyes to what?
MysticNinjaJay 3 years ago
Why wouldn't Obama just have brought his long form when he was in Hawaii last week, if what you say is true? How did Obama get into Pakistan in 1981, when Pakistan was under Marshall Law and American passports holders were not able to enter? Why would Obama even take a lawyer to dismiss the case, rather than just provide the proof requested? When McCain was questioned about his natural born situation, he ran to court to show the necessary docs. This clearly is a just lawsuit.
abbienetvision 3 years ago
Where is the evidence that Obama went to Pakistan on an Indonesian passport? In politics you don't dignify smears. That only draws attention to them. The lawsuit was groundless so it was dismissed, thus discrediting Berg. That's why he's so mad. He's been exposed as the nut he is. This same idiot claims to have a tape of Obama's paternal Grandmother who doesn't speak English saying she witnessed Obama's birth in Kenya. Berg is a lunatic!
MysticNinjaJay 3 years ago
Obama talks about his trip to Pakistan in 1981, when Pakistand was under Marshall law, so please tell me how did he get into Pakistan? No American passport holders were allowed entry in 1981. Please tell me how he did it?
abbienetvision 3 years ago
WHen did he talk about this trip? Can you provide me a source?
MysticNinjaJay 3 years ago
Just look it up, there are loads of sources.
abbienetvision 3 years ago
I can't find a credible source for this claim about Obama visiting Pakistan. All I see are right-wing blogs making the allegation and linking it to this bogus claim about Obama not being a natural-born citizen. When you make a claim you should back it up with a source.
MysticNinjaJay 3 years ago
The original article was posted in the New York Times. Is that not credible or did you not find that? Are you searching with your eyes closed?
abbienetvision 3 years ago
McCain's lawyers filed to dismiss a similar case against him in New Hampshire. The Senate approved a resolution recognizing McCain's right to eligibility to run. The definition of Natural-Born citizen is ambiguous. No such resolution is being afforded Obama because he was born in Hawaii. This has been proven by many credible sources. Berg is trying to get his case recognized because he knows the story alone could cost Obama votes. They already showed his COLB and idiots claimed it was forged.
MysticNinjaJay 3 years ago
Then why didn't Obama just get his long form birth certificate when he was in Hawaii, just a few days ago. McCain ran to court with his documentation, without any lawyers trying to dismiss the case. Why wouldn't he just show proof?
abbienetvision 3 years ago 2
Obama has already provided his Certification of Live Birth to FactCheck. org. He doesn't need to prove himself to Berg in court. The case has been dismissed. End of story. And as I already said McCain's lawyers did the exact same thing. You have not provided a source disputing this.
MysticNinjaJay 3 years ago
Mystic,
1.Factcheck is not reliable since it is part of the Annenberg Org, which received loads of money from Obama.
2. The court in Phili has dismissed the case, because they say berg has no standing, which means that no private citizen can bring the eligiblity of president issue to court, only the congress or senate can. The case now has been taken to the Supreme Court, and hopefully Obama will have to prove his words, so this in not the end. Where are you, that you cannot search yourself?
abbienetvision 3 years ago
1. That's not a credible argument. Factcheck is reputed for being a non-partisan group. Leonore Annenberg, the President of the Annenberg Foundation has endorsed McCain. Factcheck has provided irrefutable proof for the authenticity of Obama's COLB as well as corroborative sources.
2. I'm aware of this. I guarantee you that the Supreme Court will also dismiss this case. Berg has no evidence supporting his claim that Obama was born in Kenya. The burden of proof is on him.
MysticNinjaJay 3 years ago
Mystic,
The case was not dismissed due to evidence. It was dismissed due to "no standing" this has nothing to do with evidence, it is about the right to bring a case forward. Please do not spread opinions, rather than facts. How did Obama get into Palistan? What about his registration to the school in Indonesia? Who is Barry AKA Barack? Evidence is great in this case.
abbienetvision 3 years ago 2
If what Berg says is completely lies, why doesn't Obama sue him, for libel? I sure would if someone was spreading lies about me. Please think well before you say that you wouldn't do anything, like Obama is doing.
abbienetvision 3 years ago
waste of time
banduril 3 years ago
Pakistan has declared martial law 3 times in its history. First was 1958, then 1969 & latest was 2007 so no where around 1981 it has that and another thing u should look up the meaning of martial law its different everytime and any place it occurs. so abbie or wutever ur name is it seems like u have a great lack of knowledge and ur statements r coming out ur ass with no credibility or truth in it next time come with evidence and dont bother responding cuz I just smashed u.obama 08..1
youngenb123 3 years ago
You are wrong...history is history..In 1981 Pakistan was under Martial Law for fifth straight year. The entire country was under Sharia Islamic Law.
Pakistan was on the banned travel list for US Citizens at the time and all non-Muslim visitors were not welcome unless sponsored by their embassy for official business.
There would be only a few reasons a young Westerner of the Muslim faith would travel to Pakistan in 1981: To Participate in Jihad, which is the duty of every True Believer.
abbienetvision 3 years ago
Alright Abbie, I've looked into it. The NY Times source checks out and I even see that there is a Fox News clip with audio of Obama talking about the trip (I don't watch Fox News the are incredibly right biased). But I can find no source for a U.S. travel ban to Pakistan in the 1980s. As it is Obama was born in Hawaii. Neither Berg or anyone else has provided proof otherwise....
MysticNinjaJay 3 years ago
Proof disputing that fact. The reason Obama has not sued Berg for libel should be obvious. He's running for President. He cannot afford negative press with votes on the line and suing people only dignifies the claim which attracts the media. Every Presidential candidate has been smeared by character assassins and conspiracy theorists. The practical way to deal with them is to debunk them when they become major stories. Waving a motion to dismiss this case was the most practical thing to do.
MysticNinjaJay 3 years ago
Most arguments against McCains eligibility will point to this statute as proof that McCain is not a natural born citizen within the scope of the 14thAmendment.However this statute is very broad. i.e, a child born to parents residing on a military installation in the VirginIslands would be considered a UScitizen by birth because theVirgin Islands are a territory of the USand subject to its jurisdiction.Likewise in 1936 when John McCain was born,thePanamaCanalZone was considered a USAterritory.
abbienetvision 3 years ago
Yep, see what they do? Keep us fighting amongst ourselves over the "one or the other" and business as usual for the real powers that be. Also, I just knew you would love that Pissed video. The music is as intense as the video itself. See ya in myspace~
wazooavenue 3 years ago
Let's avoid a constitutional crisis? Did I hear that right? The constitution has been decaying since the 16th ammendment in 1913 all the way up to george w bush using it to wipe his ass. as long as republicans and democrats keep us fighting each other we will never know the truth.
We are all exorcising our 1st ammendment right. or are we? The patriot act says we can be jailed for speaking out against the government. oops. Guess I better shut up huh?
wazooavenue 3 years ago
The sad part is it was never ratified yet public opinion believes that they really are held accountable to pay federal income tax. It's unconstitutional. We all need to get paid under the table and not file. Personally I don't, but we all need to. Taxing our labor is just unethical, slavery that it seems everyone is blind to. The IRS is scary, but the law is the law. They don't have any case if you have knowledge and they know it.
Elva420 3 years ago
*it
not in
and I figured out your [your] we just gotta stop typing so fast
wazooavenue 3 years ago
Obama is definitely hiding something. He will not realease is medical records and cannot produce a birth certificate. We can only hope that this suit gets a fair chance.
divernj31 3 years ago 3
My only question is if this is a legitimate lawsuit, then why would the usual fox pundits (Hanity, O'riely etc) not have taken up this cause? With less than two weeks left in the race and McCain on the fast trck back to his Senate seat, you would think that he might take up this line of attack (he's tried everything else...why not just come out and say that Obama can't legally run for President?).
JATCA69 3 years ago
They do not want to 'rock the boat'. Impeaching Bush, holding McCain accountable for his FCC violations, or calling someone out on breaking the law would interrupt business as usual.
In Texas, both parties missed the official deadline to file for a place in the ballot, and even though all other parties are ALWAYS held to the law, the Democrats and Republicans received a special favor and were allowed to register whenever they got around to it.
nzalud2 3 years ago
He's clearly winning the race, so let's attack... uh... HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE.
Grow up, people.
wretcherwretch 3 years ago
Mooooooron.
MidgetMutilator 3 years ago
Nice response. Shows you're educated.
wretcherwretch 3 years ago
I am a Republican but come on people Obama's mother was a US citizen so I don't care where he was born, he is a natural citizen in my eyes. Same with McCain and his whole not being a "natural born" citizen.
TheVampirella 3 years ago
wrong, they are both illegitimate, and it Does matter quite irrespective of your lack of sense. The fact that you cannot or will not make sense of it doesn't make it insensible.
diogeneslaertius666 3 years ago
The copies of the birth certificate were forged and the person who forged it admitted he did it. Show us the birth certificate Obama
mccoy4me 3 years ago
CrimsonTR
Absolutely the truth. He showed Berg not one a couple of "altered " birth certificates. Obama is a Liar and a FRAUD.If we can't expect a person to live up the laws of the highest office in this country then we are surely going to hell in a handbasket. Thank you, Mr.Berg. Obama, go ahead and drop out of the race so you don't have to go through the embarrassment of giving up your candidacy by a court order.
Crimsontr 3 years ago
Idiots. Doesn't counselor Berg have anything better to do? This was already settled and copies of Obamas birth certificate can be seen if you look it up. Over a million people are dead because of our president and the lies he told to start this war. See what Vincent Bugliosi is working on and stop grasping for excuses to not vote for Obama. There are plenty of real reasons not to. This born in usa thing is stupid.
wazooavenue 3 years ago
If you think the constitution 'thing' is stupid, you vote will be a misinformed one.
Elva420 3 years ago
*your
Elva420 3 years ago
Eva.........420?Cool
If I'm anything it's not misinformed. You are a thinking person and that's GREAT and especially for someone your age. To see where I'm coming from please type Federal Reserve Bank History-IN ONLY 10 MIN in youtube search and then search mchillbama
You may find in quite informative. Then tell me who to vote for because you will see there is no real choice. Really. Also check out my channel and find [pissed] on my fav's.
My daughter your age, never listens, -lol so do this ok?
wazooavenue 3 years ago
Ok so I assumed, that wasn't very smart, but I do know all about this stuff! I know there is no real choice, that is why I am writing in Ron Paul. To send a message to the government, but first and foremost I feel he is most qualified. I really loved the pissed video!
Elva420 3 years ago
Yes Elva Ron Paul is the best choice. Next would be for Ralph Nader but leery of electing either one because either would surely be assassinated.
wazooavenue 3 years ago
It is a big deal not to respond to the court to dispute allegations the Plantif wins by default. I want the truth not excuses politicians are making me sick and I don't trust any of them to take them at their word. Our political system is broken!!!!!!!
firstlaunch 3 years ago 2
Goes to show how much research was really done. Obama is a natrually born citizen. Born when his father was here in the US going to school. Being Native American I question the citizenship of everybody else. People should stop hatein everybody here is illigel..according to the constitution. Who in Burg's history applied for citizenship. Should I file a complaint against the caucasian race's right to vote?
ReddRoc 3 years ago
wow, really stupid. do you actually believe he would have made it to state,and US senate without showing a birth cert.? do you really think he would have made it through the exploratory committe phase without one? come to think of it,i did hear something about mccain being born on a base in panama. better make him show HIS birth certificate too. because after all he should have nothing to hide,even if the request is blindingly stupid.
cstrand31 3 years ago
Jesus Christ people...you republicans are desperate!! Obama's place of birth has already been researched. There's nothing here folks. Go find something else to do.
VoodooTrain 3 years ago
WOW!!!
SpinNewsSpin 3 years ago
Wow. At lest they have to balls to report on this. Great news peace.
gavinovz 3 years ago
Obama defaults on Federal Lawsuit Jeopardizes Presidential Run - Now ineligible for Candidacy.
Google it. This should get really interesting...
galaxydreams 3 years ago 5
It reminds to be seen if main stream media will pick it up. I doubt it.
gavinovz 3 years ago 2