@cwilliams1976 When I'm doing a mock I'm never that bothered about details like that, as I'm only doing them for my own amusement. If I'm doing a recreation then I'll try to get all those small things right.
@presheaven It's by Chris Spedding and it's called Backwoods Theme. I a copy on the Harvest Records sampler "A Breath Of Fresh Air", and thought it would be perfect as diamond music.
@AidanLunn To be honest, it wasn't a so much a case of forgetting but not wanting to as I love the separation of the drums on the audio. If I had gone for accuracy as well as making the audio mono (as you rightly suggest) I would have made a model in Swift 3D - the diamond should be distorted as well because of the angle of the mirror.
@stupidrubbish Getting the diamond to look really authentic is very hard indeed. Firstly, as you say, the diamond is usually a bit distorted because of various things like the mirror and the camera lens, so it should be squashed slightly horizontally. Then, there is the effect which means that the diamond never 'blinks' completely out of view, possibly due to light leaking.
@presheaven I've taken a close look at a number of off airs of diamonds - they vary enormously. Sometimes the stepper motor accelerates and decelerates a bit, sometimes it starts and stops dead and moves at a constant speed. Sometimes, as you say, the diamond does not completely disappear, but on a few occasions it actually does. I've since discovered that I could have got the sort of "liquid" look of analogue keying on this animation by applying the Virtual Dub "Warp Sharp" filter.
@stupidrubbish I used to use After Effects for that, with a combination of filters to key out the background colour, replacing it with the same colour and blurring things a bit, then using the wiggler to adjust the key randomly but smoothly over time. You have to be careful not to make it too pixelated, which is where the blurring comes in. Unfortunately, it produces the effect vertically as well as horizontally, which didn't happen on the old luma key as far as I can tell.
@presheaven AfterEffects is something I've always wanted to play with, but I've never had the opportunity. I've just been looking at your BBC West jaws again - it's fabulous.
@stupidrubbish It's not very good really. There has to be some curvature to the sides apparently. I'm guessing that it was down the way the model was built, so to do it properly I need to use Swift 3D. Check the MHP Chat list for the url to an interesting French blog if you haven't already, it's got some small but good off-screens of some other regional BBC logos.
One other mistake - the BBC put the cue dot on the left and ITV on the right which is where you had it.
cwilliams1976 11 months ago
@cwilliams1976 When I'm doing a mock I'm never that bothered about details like that, as I'm only doing them for my own amusement. If I'm doing a recreation then I'll try to get all those small things right.
stupidrubbish 11 months ago
HOW do you people do this?!
borgduck 1 year ago
What is the music?
presheaven 1 year ago
@presheaven It's by Chris Spedding and it's called Backwoods Theme. I a copy on the Harvest Records sampler "A Breath Of Fresh Air", and thought it would be perfect as diamond music.
stupidrubbish 1 year ago
Why say lame mock when so many others including myself could not do any better - have really enjoyed watching these
201081hero 1 year ago
One mistake - you forgot to "mono"-ise the audio i.e. make exactly the same soundtrack play in both speakers.
AidanLunn 1 year ago
@AidanLunn To be honest, it wasn't a so much a case of forgetting but not wanting to as I love the separation of the drums on the audio. If I had gone for accuracy as well as making the audio mono (as you rightly suggest) I would have made a model in Swift 3D - the diamond should be distorted as well because of the angle of the mirror.
stupidrubbish 1 year ago
@stupidrubbish Getting the diamond to look really authentic is very hard indeed. Firstly, as you say, the diamond is usually a bit distorted because of various things like the mirror and the camera lens, so it should be squashed slightly horizontally. Then, there is the effect which means that the diamond never 'blinks' completely out of view, possibly due to light leaking.
presheaven 1 year ago
@presheaven I've taken a close look at a number of off airs of diamonds - they vary enormously. Sometimes the stepper motor accelerates and decelerates a bit, sometimes it starts and stops dead and moves at a constant speed. Sometimes, as you say, the diamond does not completely disappear, but on a few occasions it actually does. I've since discovered that I could have got the sort of "liquid" look of analogue keying on this animation by applying the Virtual Dub "Warp Sharp" filter.
stupidrubbish 1 year ago
@stupidrubbish I used to use After Effects for that, with a combination of filters to key out the background colour, replacing it with the same colour and blurring things a bit, then using the wiggler to adjust the key randomly but smoothly over time. You have to be careful not to make it too pixelated, which is where the blurring comes in. Unfortunately, it produces the effect vertically as well as horizontally, which didn't happen on the old luma key as far as I can tell.
presheaven 1 year ago
@presheaven AfterEffects is something I've always wanted to play with, but I've never had the opportunity. I've just been looking at your BBC West jaws again - it's fabulous.
stupidrubbish 1 year ago
@stupidrubbish It's not very good really. There has to be some curvature to the sides apparently. I'm guessing that it was down the way the model was built, so to do it properly I need to use Swift 3D. Check the MHP Chat list for the url to an interesting French blog if you haven't already, it's got some small but good off-screens of some other regional BBC logos.
presheaven 1 year ago