StarCraft 2 - [Z] Mass Zergling to Break Protoss Wall - Strategy

[ryu921022]

this guy should have used his probes when the zerglings were attacking the 2nd pylon.

[OnTheLine35]

the problem is people ffe mostly XD though this was 2010 so ima not judge

[xiaste0210]

noob...forgeFE wth's with the early gateway

[DjBlugill]

My Friend did that to me.. just went around lol.

But this is helpful

[polooxman]

wth how did liquidHayprO lost to that LOL?!

[MrMercuG]

@polooxman Eeh... LiquidHayprO actually won this, dunno what you talking 'bout.

[jaredglasgow3]

y dont ppl just gg in this kind of situation they oviously couldnt win after they killed the first 2-4 pylons and when they built the gates in-base around 5 mins there was no point

[keepitspliffy]

fail placement pylon... NEVER DO THAT, huge disadvantage :p

[XiCcD]

LOL PROTOSS NOOB

[xTheEnigmax]

4:41 "damn. they got behind me!"

[xTheEnigmax]

4:23 " Now. I'll funnel them into the Hot Gates, where there numbers will count for nothing! Unless they get behind me."

[TheGuyWhoPlaysMC]

THIS IS A RIDICULOUS WALL OFF THIS GUY IS TERRIBLE WHO WOULD EVER DO THAT! :p

[TheTyggerr]

@TheTyggerr Crap... double post... --'

[TheTyggerr]

Zerglings powa! =D

[TheManuLord]

Ur strategies help out alot :)

[PinkShroomz]

Bob The Zealot !!!

[pupicucek2]

Your favorite are zergs...

[boneboy767]

This hardly happens :(

[boneboy767]

he shud have gotten a damn stalker.... or just walled the smaller choke from his main......

[pandatails]

if you are protoss how do you stop early zergling rushes? With terran it was easy but I'm new to protoss and I'm finding it hard

[bananian]

@pandatails

keep building shit behind buildings and build cannons near your nexus and/or choke, wall off completely. If lings breaks through, pull probes immediately and fight alongside cannon or zealot if you have any. Make sure you keep up your probe production and then just make stalkers.

Most importantly however is to scout early. Right after you build your first pylon, scout and then prepare.

[rocksparadox]

@bananian As a Zerg player, I have to say that is about exactly how to defend against zergling annoyance.

That's why I use ''cloaked'' roaches sometimes with some lings to add spice.

Cannons get twoshotted by the roaches and lings get to play with any stalkers.

[guywithminigun]

fifty-FIRST!!

[LordGilgamesh01]

what I would like to see is strats specific to a map. like what works best on Shattered Temple or Metalopolis for example.

[LordGilgamesh01]

what I would like to see is strats specific to a map.

[Malacite]

That Protos guy really blew it though. You don't gateway expand, you Forge expand ... Even just 1 cannon, along with the zealot would have stopped that cold.

[MarineRevenge]

@Malacite Remember the date these older strategy videos came out. It was before the metagame had actually developed beyond "ill just make this unit".

[LolitsPing]

If I'm playing a protoss, I transition to mass hydras with a few corruptors thrown in to counter gateway units, any air unit and colossus (that's why the corruptors are there)

If I'm playing a Terran, I transition to banelings and infestors. Those will eat right through Mass Marine and the remaining zerglings will clean up the rest.

If the Terran is going mass mech, mass ling will do. By then you'll have so many zerglings that the hellions won't matter.

[jrconjux]

@LolitsPing if your playing protoss you transition to mass hydras XDD kinda impossible there hehehehe

[PickyWALTMAN]

you should join machinima

[KrutoyPostowoy]

90% of toss are just roflstomping me with a 4gate. Just fields on my roaches and i cant do shit. Platinum.

[msflameboy]

@KrutoyPostowoy i like to do zergling transition to hydra.

u practically have to do something similar to this to keep him on his toes if they're going 4 gate.

[joptwojumac]

Protoss should build forge followed by cannon first instead of gateway or 

[SuperFREEXBOXLIVECOD]

@joptwojumac no

[sapunec7854]

Just watched this while listening to Teurastaja... didn't get a thing but it was fucking epic!!!

[flipper14701]

What do those numbers stand for in the description? . . i never understood those..  . just got the game yesterday

[tunderman7]

@flipper14701 it means at what supply (howmany units) you build those buildings, supply is shown in the top right corner

[CDMac09]

@flipper14701 they are build orders. it means what building/unit to build when. for example where it says (14) Spawning Pool it means to build a Spawning Pool (a zerg building) when you reach 14 supply (the counter in the top right of the screen). Hope that helps a bit.

[zalazard]

lol zerg players need tips ?

[two0sixTay]

i hate zerg...lol

[vincent78433]

protoss should have started making another zealot as soon as he saw that zergling force moving out.

[vincent78433]

protoss should have made another zealot as soon as he saw that zergling force moving out.

[TheAcehd]

shoulda just made another gateway to block and put pylon behind ftw

[MsgodZ]

your strategies are good man! THUMBS!

[SexyNaMan]

A few things I found wrong with the toss play that attributed to this success. One he scouted the early pool and should have saved some cb for zealots. You know with that early pool and no extractor the Zerg player will come with lings. 2 after the first zealot was produced he didn't bother to warp in another zealot til it was too late. Instea he invested on a early nexus.

[reespawson]

Can we have a tutorial of best ways to keep larvae spawn macro high =D

[FreeZey78]

@reespawson I think this is one of the most critical Zerg micro’s to do. I personally keep my main base and main queen on hotkeys 1 and 2. Which mean I can quickly double press 2 to jump back to my queen during a battle to keep my larvae maxed out, I can also use 1 during a battle to select and create units without moving my screen from the battle.

[ModernMegalomania]

What does 14 Spawning wall mean?

[deafloxD]

@ModernMegalomania

i think he means that at 14 supplie you build a spawning pool

[Smeagollum86]

great play by both z and p but z did what he had to do in terms of strategy, however just one thing, he didn't get speed for lings :p dunno why about that one

[JRat444]

@Smeagollum86 i think its because he didnt get gas, totally invested in minerals for lots of zerglings in the beginning

[Filo011]

subcribed :D, btw can you make a tutorial zvt how to break a protoss with mass cannons & stalker micro with zerg

[leduchoan]

What's is the point for this kind of wall-up?

[TorkahPC]

@leduchoan to try to keep your expansion safe.

[eblancho87]

@leduchoan The point is if the zerglings want through the choke they have to take out that zealot blocking the way but the way the choke works the zealot can fight the zerglings on a 1 vs 1 basis while in that choke thus owning the zerglings without taking much damage. The zerg player did the smart thing by forcing the zealot to respond to the attack on the pylon might have been better to put the pylon on the edge that the zealot could defend easier

[gringo533]

whats the deal with the extractor in the toss base?

[codygautreau]

Why would he get a stalker?

[ShookBunz]

where are all these incoming build orders ?!!

[xxTheBaddxx]

@ShookBunz  Macros

[hawaiicy]

You simply cannot try to fast expand as a 'Toss player against Zerg. You are already at a timing disadvantage, and while it's extremely irritating to get zergling rushed, the fact is nearly every Zerg player is going to try it, so you need to be prepared to deal with it.

That's good micro though to break the wall, and I'm glad I know about it now so I can not get beat by it!

[LulzRoyce]

Legitimate strategy. QUESTION! Will something like this work for terran in time? If I target his pylons to prevent any further production this should technically work no? Or would he be able to get cannons by that point? Cuz I've been working on a build to get marines out asap or reapers even because they demolish buildings and zealots, but not sure if this would fly..

[4Millsy]

you guys make it seem so easy... lol

[wizmurat]

wow lol im a protoss player and this kinda made me sad... :l

but the toss player shld have gotten more zelots he had like 380 mins and didnt even warp in more zelots cuz he was fast expanding. tisk tisk

[TacMagical]

nice vid this will be useful thanks :), you should give more strats for zvt

[colepru]

Fourth!

[SpankyDmonkey2]

Requesting Permission to slam people who make 'First!' comments with a sledgehammer plz.

[stefanthepwnzor]

@SpankyDmonkey2 haha agreed

[2block2]

@SpankyDmonkey2 permission granted

[MadmanDKDK]

@SpankyDmonkey2

FIRST!

[SpankyDmonkey2]

@MadmanDKDK *slammed*

[bbsonjohn]

@SpankyDmonkey2 twenty seven thousand and five hundred thirty fourth!

[SpankyDmonkey2]

@bbsonjohn That's it! If the sledgehammer isn't doing it, time to grab the battle axe!

[carsontroeh]

@SpankyDmonkey2 First!

[bigkirbyhj666]

@SpankyDmonkey2 granted



[Serp1313]

@Gaga4Parma

Idiot.