My previous comment from a week ago may seem harsh and I do apologize to any Germans that may have been offended. I'm 1/4 German and my Great Grandma never learned English, living on the farm in Oklahoma with my Great Grandpa. They both lived into their late 90's. They were VERY proud Americans. Germany of the 30's and 40's remind me of the "nice guy" who snapped and went on a killing spree. Hopefully God can forgive the average young soldier who was just caught up in the madness...
Hey, the Nazis got to play "dress up" and pretend they were the Master Race for a few years. I actually almost enjoy seeing the frozen corpses of the "Master Race" lying on the Russian Steppe while their cities are smoldering rubble piles and Red Army troops rape the widows of a Generation of pompous German males. Yeah, you guys were the "master race"...
I haven't read all the comments here but it seems that some are trying to paint the communist russians as either good or bad and the Nazis as either good or bad. It isn't that black or white. Communist russia suffered greatly during ww2. They were victims of the Nazis BUT that does not mean that communism was good then and it doesnt mean there were not communist atrosities in later years. Both communism and Nazis were evil in their own way.
the poem at 3:35 is called, in russian, "zhdi menya". it was written by konstantin simonov. as the narrator says, it was widely known in the soviet union and is still widely known in today's russia.
The poem "Wait for Me" by Konstantin Simonov is the most heart wrenching poem I've ever read. Simonov did not write this poem from the safety of "the rear". Simonov traveled to the front many times and was almost killed or cut off by the great German offensives of 1941. He was a travelling companion of Vasily Grossman and was often in the front trenches interviewing common soldiers during '41 and '42. Simonov and Grossman were both true heroes by bringing out the truth of those dark days.
@randy95023 thank you for sharing this information.
would you happen by chance to know the name of the poem later in this episode where the father is remembering his son, killed in battle, "treading the earth on little strong toes"? i have searched for it in the past with no success.
09:00 "The Churches were opened once more..." Even though Stalin went on to be an atheist in his 20's he had been a believer. As a Russian Orthodox in his youth Stalin had even been a Seminarian for a brief time and understood the power of believing in an almighty God, regardless if he personally believed. The Russian Orthodox Church regained (partially) it's place in Russian Society due to the war and the hopelessness the War brought to many of the people. There are NO atheists in foxholes.
@666failure666 - The series rarely criticizes anyone. It is an historical record, crammed into 26 hours, and not a series of obvious opinions. If you have watched this, and you have been left with the impression that he was a megalomaniac monster with a huge taste for death and fear, then it has done it's job. Seeing 27 million dead civilians does not need intelligent debate to discuss whether it was a "good thing" or a "bad thing". Pictures with few words say just as much as script.
people say Stalin is worse because he killed more people but if hitler had been around as long as stalin he would have killed so many more people than Stalin
@ManicDepressive101 yes,stalid had far better reasons for killing.he killed those who are selfish and profiteers,although he included some personal enemies,still he did his job unselfishly,he had a family he loved,but he choses to be a leader than a father,it's a very hard decision and sad that a father and a amn would be losing his family,because choses his beloved country before himself and his family...
@teslagod2003 Yes indeed, a very difficult decision to become a paranoid dictator instaed of a simple family man like ordinary Russians. It is quite clear you've never been to Russia and haven't got the faintest idea of the realities of communism. Tsk tsk indeed.
@jlnijholt and i see that it is really easy hate the people and the person that the west said should be hated,tsk...
you are just someone who prefer to be free and able to do everything you want,not caring about others and discipline,which i would prefer o trade in return of true equality and true justice...
look at how our justice roll now?if you have no money or power connection,you're a loser...
Incredible hardship. This has got to be the most eye opening episode I have seen in this series about the day to day life of the besieged Russian people of WWII. When did it end for them? Their own government was brutal too and worked them to sickness and death. Will these kinds of tyrannies ever emerge again? Or will we be subjugated slowly by our own soft tyranny? Hopefully, one day, we will realize that when men rule over other men there needs to be no other goal higher than liberty for all.
I think it's interesting that this documentary was produced during a period of detente in the Cold War. Whilst it isn't pro-Soviet necessarily, it does not criticise Stalin as much as some programmes I have seen.
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As writers of "The Black Book Of Communism" wrote, communism was bigger disaster to mankind than nazism. coz it was stronger than destoyed world much longer time than nazism. Besides it's quite well calculated. Nazis are responsible to killing some 15 million people while communism killed at least 100 million people.
Both nazism and communism were brutal ideologies without no plea. Stay in facts - nazism was horrible but communism more horrible.
27 million Soviets died in the war, mostly civilians. Already that is higher than the 15 million that you claim. You type the same shit on all of these videos. Most of the deaths you list are from famine. It is very bad but it was not intentional most of the time. Meanwhile the Nazis killed Jews because they were Jews, Poles because they were Poles, Russians, Roma, disabled people, homosexuals the list goes on and on. I dont care what anyone says the Nazis had far more evil intentions.
And the Bolsheviks killed Ukrainians because they were Ukrainians, shopkeepers because they were shopkeepers, Chechnyans because they were Chechnyans, kulaks because they were kulaks, and so on. They weren't nearly as wasteful of their slaves as the Nazis - they starved and worked them literally to death, only wasting a bullet for the particularly troublesome.
By way of atrocity, Marxists were the true masters. Compared to them their National Socialist cousins were only enthusiastic amateurs.
@Agamemnon862 Yet while the Nazis were eliminated, the communists could rule on for 40 more years; little good came of that until their regime collapsed on itself. And I guess you never heard of the show trials of the 1930s and Stalin's paranoid idea of a Jewish doctor plot. He saw plotting everywhere, but missed the one in his own mind. Tsk.
The Russian people were victims of both nazism and communism,hitler on one side stalin on the other?????no wonder millions died!!! i feel for the russian people they must of suffered horribly!
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After what another british man has told uss (Anthony Beevor) this 35 years old tv-serie sounds just an leftwing western liberal sentimental bullshit from socialism worshipping 1970's.
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Congratulations to BBC for this wonderful propaganda film. Look at Stalin in 3:16. Is he like an angel? He wouldn't do harm to a fly.
I guess this tv-serie was made for britains to explain why they (UK/US) fought against one bastard (Hitler) by collaborating with another bastard (Stalin). Lucky britains they didn't have to send even Arthur Harris to Nurnberg trial.
Close your eyes and forget what happened to people of Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Romania, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania ...
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My only regret is that we haven`t killed every Czech,Finn,Hungarian,Baltic etc nazi poodle.If anyone deserved being shoved into mass graves instead of Russians it was them.Stalin was a humane seminarist who grew up reading Russian literature with its noble ideals ,he couldn`t wage war the way it was waged on us.
As for Beevor and his breed of Russophobic political whores,follow the money and you`ll know who butters their toast.
At first I didn't know why everyone was posting nasty things about this guy ... but I get it now. You are quite right in your assertion of this fellow's cunt-dom :P
06:35 lol british seamen
mastaODI56 1 year ago
Those poor bastards.
chetwin88 1 year ago
My previous comment from a week ago may seem harsh and I do apologize to any Germans that may have been offended. I'm 1/4 German and my Great Grandma never learned English, living on the farm in Oklahoma with my Great Grandpa. They both lived into their late 90's. They were VERY proud Americans. Germany of the 30's and 40's remind me of the "nice guy" who snapped and went on a killing spree. Hopefully God can forgive the average young soldier who was just caught up in the madness...
randy95023 1 year ago
Hey, the Nazis got to play "dress up" and pretend they were the Master Race for a few years. I actually almost enjoy seeing the frozen corpses of the "Master Race" lying on the Russian Steppe while their cities are smoldering rubble piles and Red Army troops rape the widows of a Generation of pompous German males. Yeah, you guys were the "master race"...
randy95023 1 year ago
I haven't read all the comments here but it seems that some are trying to paint the communist russians as either good or bad and the Nazis as either good or bad. It isn't that black or white. Communist russia suffered greatly during ww2. They were victims of the Nazis BUT that does not mean that communism was good then and it doesnt mean there were not communist atrosities in later years. Both communism and Nazis were evil in their own way.
TroyBilt007 1 year ago
the poem at 3:35 is called, in russian, "zhdi menya". it was written by konstantin simonov. as the narrator says, it was widely known in the soviet union and is still widely known in today's russia.
movitmovit 1 year ago
The poem "Wait for Me" by Konstantin Simonov is the most heart wrenching poem I've ever read. Simonov did not write this poem from the safety of "the rear". Simonov traveled to the front many times and was almost killed or cut off by the great German offensives of 1941. He was a travelling companion of Vasily Grossman and was often in the front trenches interviewing common soldiers during '41 and '42. Simonov and Grossman were both true heroes by bringing out the truth of those dark days.
randy95023 1 year ago 2
@randy95023 thank you for sharing this information.
would you happen by chance to know the name of the poem later in this episode where the father is remembering his son, killed in battle, "treading the earth on little strong toes"? i have searched for it in the past with no success.
movitmovit 1 year ago
09:00 "The Churches were opened once more..." Even though Stalin went on to be an atheist in his 20's he had been a believer. As a Russian Orthodox in his youth Stalin had even been a Seminarian for a brief time and understood the power of believing in an almighty God, regardless if he personally believed. The Russian Orthodox Church regained (partially) it's place in Russian Society due to the war and the hopelessness the War brought to many of the people. There are NO atheists in foxholes.
randy95023 1 year ago
I cry for the Russians
askjiir 1 year ago
@666failure666 - The series rarely criticizes anyone. It is an historical record, crammed into 26 hours, and not a series of obvious opinions. If you have watched this, and you have been left with the impression that he was a megalomaniac monster with a huge taste for death and fear, then it has done it's job. Seeing 27 million dead civilians does not need intelligent debate to discuss whether it was a "good thing" or a "bad thing". Pictures with few words say just as much as script.
DaiJonesful 2 years ago 2
people say Stalin is worse because he killed more people but if hitler had been around as long as stalin he would have killed so many more people than Stalin
VCVvideo 2 years ago 5
When the only point of comparison between two men deals with who killed the most millions, I don't think it really matters who was worse...
battleax86 2 years ago 7
true, but you have to think of the reason of why SATALIN killed.
ManicDepressive101 1 year ago
mad with power
Hitler: race
VCVvideo 1 year ago
murder is murder
discgolfer92 1 year ago
@ManicDepressive101 yes,stalid had far better reasons for killing.he killed those who are selfish and profiteers,although he included some personal enemies,still he did his job unselfishly,he had a family he loved,but he choses to be a leader than a father,it's a very hard decision and sad that a father and a amn would be losing his family,because choses his beloved country before himself and his family...
teslagod2003 1 year ago
@teslagod2003 Yes indeed, a very difficult decision to become a paranoid dictator instaed of a simple family man like ordinary Russians. It is quite clear you've never been to Russia and haven't got the faintest idea of the realities of communism. Tsk tsk indeed.
jlnijholt 1 year ago
@jlnijholt and i see that it is really easy hate the people and the person that the west said should be hated,tsk...
you are just someone who prefer to be free and able to do everything you want,not caring about others and discipline,which i would prefer o trade in return of true equality and true justice...
look at how our justice roll now?if you have no money or power connection,you're a loser...
teslagod2003 1 year ago
Incredible hardship. This has got to be the most eye opening episode I have seen in this series about the day to day life of the besieged Russian people of WWII. When did it end for them? Their own government was brutal too and worked them to sickness and death. Will these kinds of tyrannies ever emerge again? Or will we be subjugated slowly by our own soft tyranny? Hopefully, one day, we will realize that when men rule over other men there needs to be no other goal higher than liberty for all.
MisterEvasion 2 years ago 11
@MisterEvasion liberty?in cost of being manipulated and allowing corruption,crimes,profiteering,and taking advantage of the weak...
tsk,western propaganda is indeed done its job well...
goodluck for your beliefs and love of the western bs...
teslagod2003 1 year ago
I think it's interesting that this documentary was produced during a period of detente in the Cold War. Whilst it isn't pro-Soviet necessarily, it does not criticise Stalin as much as some programmes I have seen.
rexmonster66 2 years ago 9
Well I think it didnt want to take a POV its more or less from a civilian perspective anyway.
fakweet 2 years ago
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schroederdevrient 2 years ago
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As writers of "The Black Book Of Communism" wrote, communism was bigger disaster to mankind than nazism. coz it was stronger than destoyed world much longer time than nazism. Besides it's quite well calculated. Nazis are responsible to killing some 15 million people while communism killed at least 100 million people.
Both nazism and communism were brutal ideologies without no plea. Stay in facts - nazism was horrible but communism more horrible.
tranmere789 2 years ago
27 million Soviets died in the war, mostly civilians. Already that is higher than the 15 million that you claim. You type the same shit on all of these videos. Most of the deaths you list are from famine. It is very bad but it was not intentional most of the time. Meanwhile the Nazis killed Jews because they were Jews, Poles because they were Poles, Russians, Roma, disabled people, homosexuals the list goes on and on. I dont care what anyone says the Nazis had far more evil intentions.
Agamemnon862 2 years ago 28
And the Bolsheviks killed Ukrainians because they were Ukrainians, shopkeepers because they were shopkeepers, Chechnyans because they were Chechnyans, kulaks because they were kulaks, and so on. They weren't nearly as wasteful of their slaves as the Nazis - they starved and worked them literally to death, only wasting a bullet for the particularly troublesome.
By way of atrocity, Marxists were the true masters. Compared to them their National Socialist cousins were only enthusiastic amateurs.
DrCruel 1 year ago
@Agamemnon862 Yet while the Nazis were eliminated, the communists could rule on for 40 more years; little good came of that until their regime collapsed on itself. And I guess you never heard of the show trials of the 1930s and Stalin's paranoid idea of a Jewish doctor plot. He saw plotting everywhere, but missed the one in his own mind. Tsk.
jlnijholt 1 year ago
@Agamemnon862 Seriously mate, you can't convince the criminaly insane.
socrateswept 1 year ago
The Russian people were victims of both nazism and communism,hitler on one side stalin on the other?????no wonder millions died!!! i feel for the russian people they must of suffered horribly!
redriot74 2 years ago 5
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After what another british man has told uss (Anthony Beevor) this 35 years old tv-serie sounds just an leftwing western liberal sentimental bullshit from socialism worshipping 1970's.
tranmere789 2 years ago
Meh. Just saying that the Nazis were uncomparibly worse than the USSR, doesn't mean this is pro-Stalinist propaganda.
KeyNesew 2 years ago 10
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Congratulations to BBC for this wonderful propaganda film. Look at Stalin in 3:16. Is he like an angel? He wouldn't do harm to a fly.
I guess this tv-serie was made for britains to explain why they (UK/US) fought against one bastard (Hitler) by collaborating with another bastard (Stalin). Lucky britains they didn't have to send even Arthur Harris to Nurnberg trial.
Close your eyes and forget what happened to people of Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Romania, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania ...
tranmere789 2 years ago
Should we forget the fact that the soviets saved the world from nazis?
That thanks to them all of euroe was saved?
alexander33345 2 years ago 7
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yeah but then who took control of all of europe for 44 yrs, who waged war with afghanistan, who was our enemy in the cold war
Dudeohh 2 years ago
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My only regret is that we haven`t killed every Czech,Finn,Hungarian,Baltic etc nazi poodle.If anyone deserved being shoved into mass graves instead of Russians it was them.Stalin was a humane seminarist who grew up reading Russian literature with its noble ideals ,he couldn`t wage war the way it was waged on us.
As for Beevor and his breed of Russophobic political whores,follow the money and you`ll know who butters their toast.
schroederdevrient 2 years ago
only the russians know true hate, suffering and labour.
cchj768 2 years ago 2
Those Russians sure know how to say it
askjiir 2 years ago
in 2:43 OMG
davelyng 2 years ago
damoosebelly, you could add to the description that this amazing TV serie is available in Brazil, and maybe
daltonagre will calm down.
sasabe121 2 years ago 5
He saw this in Brazil?
really thats so interesting
FACTUNTHJU 3 years ago 6
and so applicable to Leningrad, don't you think? rofl
maverick41218 2 years ago 2
He saw this amazing TV serie, there in Brazil
PainsPerdus 3 years ago 4
This amazing TV serie, remains the best about World War II.I saw it, here in Brazil.
daltonagre 3 years ago
cunt
Taramriel 3 years ago
At first I didn't know why everyone was posting nasty things about this guy ... but I get it now. You are quite right in your assertion of this fellow's cunt-dom :P
YerTalkingKrap 3 years ago
Yeah I know what you mean, I gave a thumbs down to a guy who did the same thing, then I realised the background lol. He's an irritating twattock! O_o
Taramriel 3 years ago 2
is that all they show on TV in Brazil or what?:)
Shumeshi 3 years ago 5
LOL
FACTUNTHJU 3 years ago
No, they have two channels; ON and OFF!
hoosierdaddy3277 3 years ago 5
I saw world at war in Brazil yesterday, its on once a day. :)
emmteez 2 years ago
HA HA HA
askjiir 1 year ago