What a true example of how when faced with danger a persons reason and sense evades them. How would you not be able to comprehend in the heat of battle a period of silence where American voices were yelling at their attackers, their own side "stop shooting, were Americans" !
Did they ever identify the dumb fucks who were on the trigger end of a friendly weapon that killed an amazing guy ? Gibbolin
I'm sorry bro, they didn't lose control, those fucking U.S. Army "Nazis" murdered your brother. They were in perfect control. Why else would they shoot a ranger who 1. let off a friendly smoke gernade 2. was wearing ranger uniform, and waving his arms yelling "I'm Pat Fucking Tillman!!!!" MURDER.
George bush is an asshole he started the war by using nuclear weapons on one of the village in afgan he bomb innocent people for nuke testings and thats how the war started if he didnt do that those people who died in the twin towers could have live peacefully and the people who died in the war R.I.P those people and hate on George
p.s he trys to scare the afgan people but hope he gets what he deserve
well after this incident, how is it possible that there are still people not understanding why so many countries didn´t believe there were any weapons of mass destruction in Irak and that the U.S. were desperately trying to talk them into war....
Whenever I think about joining the military all I have to do is think about situations like this and people like Donald Rumsfeld, and I quickly come to my senses. Warmongers and the U. S. government in general treats soldiers and veterans like they're pawn pieces in their private game of chess.
Whether the War in Iraq/Afghanistan is just or not, soldiers who are commanded to put their lives in jeopardy deserve a lot more than what they've been getting!! Can't even get the TRUTH!!
Thanks to the US govt for smuggling Heroin out of Afghanistan! And you wonder why we dont trust you morons. everyone is a terrorist except your murdering employees. Not all, but too many. Down with the banksters and Pelosi
This Veteran's only hope for this Country is term limits. Senators should do no more eight years and then get their own health insurance and share, like the rest of us, in the pitance that is Social Security. Nancy, it must be hard to look in the mirror. Public service is not supposed to be an oportunity for profit.
Lying about Tillman was easy after our own government along with Mossad planned and carried out 9/11 so we could go to afghanistan and iraq. if you can lie about 9/11, then lying about Pat Tillman is easy.
This is an incredible hearing & though I don't agree with US military I stand by the Tillmans 100%. The Tillmans have shown incredible restraint considering their loss. It's a really pathetic day in American history when Bush & co. are STILL not charged for the war crimes they commited. This alone should of had them impeached. Pat was used for US propoganda to further lying politicians agenda...still no punishment for Bush % co. Send Bush & co. to the Hague.
Nice post, Nancy. And what exactly has come of this? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Just like every other important issue, you raise a stink and then run away from it when it comes to taking corrective action. We still don't know who is culpable for Pat's death and his family still doesn't know the truth. Thanks for nothing.
jgrover78, you are completely blind. What has come of this indeed! The American public has FINALLY heard the truth of the Bush lies. Do you actually want us to believe that the ZERO OVERSIGHT during the first six years of GOP-majority control of both Houses of Congress would have changed if the DEMs didn't take over Congress in January 2007? Man are you dense. Thanks to the investigations the public and THE WORLD have learned about Bush's treasonous acts, and lies. Much has been accomplished!
I'm the one who's dense? Gitmo was going to be shut down and we were either going to try the prisoners there or let them go but we now under the Dem-controlled DC are allowing the same policies to hold them. What truth has come out? Name me one.
I live near Mary Tillman and I can promise you she is not content for one second with the way this investigation has gone--it has gone nowhere. She is not satisfied because there was a coverup and this Congress has not followed up on its promise!
It is commonly agreed that liars are amoung the most despicable people in our society. It is also true that lying is so common. It is also now apparent it is common among our leaders as well. Nixon was one of the first known, and then Clinton who understandably lied about his Jewish girlfriend blowing him regularly. In Canada, Mulroney, a Prime Minister took $300,000.00 bribes and Bush's whole administration is awash in a sea of lies. This is a shameful time.
Of course coming from a gaggle of criminals who helped sponsor 911 (or at least let it happen), endorse torture, lied about weapons of mass destruc, spies on the American people, eviserated the Constitution, shills this phony war on terror, has demolished the dollar deliberately, signed on to the North American Union, I would consider such an accusation the highest honor.
Poor Pat Tillman. A great and sincere human being used as food for the new world order war machine.
Thats Ok guess whos been fightin to give your right to voice your feelings ya thats right afganistan is not fun but you can feel good that someone else is going out there while you sleep safe at night. Your an ungrateful peice of shit
you dip shitted, dumbfucked, sheepshit fed, ignorant head in the sand, can't see the wolf in the hen house, misled asswipe. i was born with the ability to talk. no war or anyone for that matter you stupid fuck can give me my voice and the ability to speak you fucking coward. stand up and be about something for once in your pathetic life you loser. stop believing that war lets you speak. thats the biggest piece of bullshit we americans have all been fed all our lives.if not go back2 planet uranus
Im the coward yet I serve my country? Wow your misled you are so into your propoaganda bullshit. And I'm a traitor for sereving my country and believeing in what I fight for. My frineds have dided for freedom and all you can do is bad mouth these americans. I'v taken strapnel through my left leg and I'm the coward think about what your saying and who you are calling stupid
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When Will you people ever learn. so many of you think that there is a huge government plot or a cover up. I will say right now that Kevin Tillman is a coward in not following the Ranger creed That I have lived by since I've been in 3rd Battalion.He is dishonoring his brother. If i were to fall in my coming up tour I would be ashamed of my family if they were to do the same. Whether by friendly or hostile fire he died for his country they dont need to know exact details.
Never shall I fail my comrades. I will always keep myself mentally alert, physically strong and morally straight and I will shoulder more than my share of the task whatever it may be. One hundred percent and then some. NEVER SHALL I FAIL MY COMRADES!
what a fucking mind fucked reprogrammed piece of shit you are...fuck your creed bitch!...what ever happened to ethics and telling the damn truth? if your creed supercedes truth and honor then by all means please take 2 center mass and 1 to the fucking dome you cocksucker.
dude!....not a goddamn thing is ethical about it...what the fuck is your problem???...cant you read my posts?...what??...my posts are interpretating to you that i think government lies are ethical?...anyway im gonna give you a pass because i think you misread my text.
wow. you really are a piece of work. your beliefs are outdated and completely unamerican when compared to the constitution. "WAR" is big business and not for you and i. your slogans of ignorance is the mind virus you are imprisoned by therefore forever causing the division they have set out to impose upon all americans. you are a dick and should be slapped. FUCK YOUR WAR MINDED IRRATIONAL VIEWS!!!...get with the program and realized you've been mindfucked. or...is that your sense of freedumb
Thank you, Kevin and Ms. Tillman, for working so hard to get out the truth about Pat's tragic death and the government cover-up that followed. If our Government would lie about this, what else are they lying about now? Americans, WAKE UP, your government lies to you regularly!!!!
America is murdering their own people. The fat pigs are slave (employee) driver. They don't give a shit if you're dead. This greedy evils should be hanged upside down. JUSTICE MUST BE SERVE.
this is a true thing that happens! its not a chain letter! its kinda scary at first but it really works!! paste this message into 3 comments and press ALT F4 and your crushes name will appear on the screen!!! its soo wierd!
Nancy (or whomever on her staff posts these and hopefully actually reads the comments: thank you for posting these, but we all want to know what you and others are going to do about holding the current administration accountable for the propaganda, the repeatedly contemptuous invoking of executive privilege, the refusal to answer to the American people whom they are supposed to serve, and the crimes.
wow. you're ignorant of the fact that politics has nothing to do with military service. It's patriotism. Regardless of whether Iraq is right or wrong, the nation still needs a military for its defense.
Dear Kevin Tillman, the people who lied about your brothers death, what do you think of them?...if they lied about your brothers death, what else would they be capable of lying about?...possibly about why you are even in Iraq?...maybe about 9/11, too?...
There are no words for what the government has done to the Tillman's family, i live in England, just recently statistics have revealed that the number of people going into the Army has descreased, i am not surprised!!I always have tears for those sons&daughters fighting in the war whether they are British or American, this is the thanx they get, not fair!!RIP Pat, & all the others who've lost their lives.
I just heard that President Bush will envoke EXECUTIVE PRIVLEGE in response to being questioned on the death of Pat Tillman? UNBELIEVABLE. What a slap in the face to the Tillman family and every american who has put their life on the line for this country.
laleeloolelo- If you really reside in Indonesia as your profile says, what the Hell do you care about American politics? Hmmmmm...Something smells about your whole situation, and your answers...
laleeloo- I guess that since 'Polls" are so important until they say you guys suck and only just rate the typical response "SO" from Dimokrats when they're about them, I guess the really funny thing is What you guys will say about 'Polls' showing a totally 'undeclared' candidate (F.Thompson) blowing the shoes off all the present 'declared' candidates, Dimokrat & Republican? I can't wait to hear this one...lol
the tillmans my atheist brothers! be strong!. you have won the war against christianty in your hearts, but lost a battle for the christian cause.i hope your family grows stronger and hope he killed many believers as he went down...christian and muslim alike
You ok? You want beef? get off the computer and walk the street & punch that guy square in the face. God is never against those who love him & never mocked as those who have died within 2 years.
I've always thought he was killed on purpose.....by one....I've followed this....felt funny from the start...when one shoots with encouragement, everbody shoots...seems un-RANGERLY....just too trained for this. I'm afraid his dominating personality brought jealously
I was a Ranger..aco2/75 bad muthers .they probably interviewed the soldiers who fired first who obviously thought what they saw was what they saw.....combat is confusing..you want to live..you want to fight...but maybe somebody "fragged him" because they thought he was a posuer.......the Rangers is full of ultraviolent fighters...but they gov...they're iffy
The American public (the one's who have a brain cell in their head) know exactly where things are at with the Bush Administration and nothing, and I do mean nothing, is ever going to make them appear heroic. The type of reporting of Pat Tilman's death and the Jessica Lynch recovery didn't fool anyone for long. People are capable, when they bother to pay attention, in seeing the falsehoods and "too good to be true" stories. Sorry to say it, but our President and company are an embarrassment.
I think now that the impeachment of Cheney is on the table, and being covered by major media, we will see the Congress start to snowball in support. The Vietnam War ended when the people led the way.......
Duncan Hunter is also calling for that coward Harry Reid to resign his position. And unlike Dennis Kookcinich, Hunter has not been marginalized as a crackpot. Kookcinich is just pissing in the wind on the impeachment of the VP.
I didn't think you had the balls to take on an issue head to head. Allow me to school you here. Whether or not someone has "been marginalized" is, now watch close, NOT a measure of the truth value of their statements. Pick an issue little man, let's party!
"And unlike Dennis Kookcinich, Hunter has not been marginalized as a crackpot"
Since when does Dennis Kucinich ever marginalized as crackpot? And i do mean really marginalized not just insulted as crackpot by your right wing buddies.
Oh by the way Virginia congressional district also trying to impeach (the president not the VP) so i guess he's not just "pissing in the wind" huh?
Over 300 Phd scholars, 150 family members of victims, a lot of the hollywood circle, lincoln & burlington Vermont, 100's of survivors, millions of americans want them exposed and then reinstate the constitution to the way it was before it got hi-jacked.
A war czar is wrong.
This side has the laws of nature outweighing the rule of law.
There you are people, YOUR government using the death of this man's brother as a propaganda tool, reducing his death to a public relations ploy, all based on lies..... Lies about WMD, lies about al Qaeda connections, lies about the threat to US by Iraq, torture ordered, secret prisons, spying on your private lives, bragging about it, padding their own pockets with no-bid contracts.
Impeach Now...impeach without malice, but we MUST impeach now.....
I thought you might want to take on an issue, feel free if you wish. Labeling and name calling isn't debate. Go ahead and start with the fact that there was a coverup of Pat Tillman's death and his family was lied to. Go ahead and justify it. Let's party sucker!
I wonder if Michelle Malkin from Hot Air, who currently has a "comedy video" about Democrats being defeatists would call the Tilman Family a bunch of cowards?
For all the US Soldiers currently serving and those who did amd those who never came back, you have my most sincere gratitude. It has been a disgrace how politicians have used you to exploit their own egos and continue to conduct a war of egotism.
get this movie off ihate it,its stupid,its sick,and its boring.take this off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here's what needs to happen: Congress needs to grill every single commander, who was a part of this shameful disgrace to our military men and women, and find out who ordered them to lie about it. Whoever was ultimately responsible (if they were military) should be dishonorably dischared from the military. If it was Bush or Cheney who gave the order (which I believe probably did it) they need to be imeached; add one more scandal and controversy to this joke of an administration.
There you are people, YOUR government using the death of this man's brother as a propaganda tool, reducing his death to a public relations ploy, all based on lies..... Lies about WMD, lies about al Qaeda connections, lies about the threat to US by Iraq, torture ordered, secret prisons, spying on your private lives, bragging about it, padding their own pockets with no-bid contracts.
Impeach Now...impeach without malice, but we MUST impeach now.....
Quit crying like a little bitch. Your brother would have never squealed on a football coach or military comander. They did not tell you about your brother gettting clipped by one of his own because you are a punk ass little brother and can't handle the truth. They hid it from you because they knew you would do something like this. You should have been more like your brother. You can keep trying.
This is not a republican and or democratic issue. both sides of the aile support the troops. It is that legacy and code of a soldier lost in battle that is on the line. Nobody in their right might considers it a mutally exclusive thing to support a troop yet on the other hand be opposed to the policies of administration or the way it has conducted itself. This is about Pat Tilman the hero soldier that people are trying to twist into a poster child which would make him roll in his grave.
You can disagree with policy but don't try to make Tilman out to be a politician, he was a soldier son. He trusted that everyone understood that democractics and republicans support our troops. He was bipartician and in fact would not have wanted to be a poster child for anything besides his MOS. Please respect soldiers for thier code and do not pretent it is mutaually exclusive to do that as well as then oppose a certain policy or decision in the war on terror.
so you are saying that the fact the us goverment hide from the worl the real truth its good, it was the right thing to do???? you are a mad man or woman...you should have your head check out by a doctor real soon, someday the truth will be the only thing that realy matters...my best regards to you....
No I am not saying that the us government should hide the truth, foriegn man. But you have to realize Tilman was a born solider. This means that he was willing to sacrifice his legacy for his country and he trusted in the authority. For his brother to discredit his identity and you to assume that a soliders personal reality is of great importance at a time of war is being a bit idealistic and more insulting the true beauty of a hero like Tilman.
If you are not a hater then what's your problem with Tillman's testimony?
He lost his brother and the government is lying about the situation in which he died.
And if you think the government hid it from him because he can't handle the truth, i think the fact that he is an army ranger who is able to face terrorists and insurgents proves he can handle the truth just fine.
I have not listened to tilman's brother's testomony yet but have only responded out of passion. I will listen now but first let me answer your question. Yes, I think the government hid the truth. Yes, I think the government uses people as propoganda. Yes, I think that Pat Tilman was a cut above his brother. No, I would not put my countries reputation on the line with his brother over pat to fight terror.
ok I listened. It is an opportunity for his brother to get some glow and or money for his family. He mentions legality. Pat signed up. He was a tool of the government. His family are not patriots. Pat was. I think his dad was...do you see Pat's dad talking about this? The brother wines...."this followed many political disasters." Pat did not wine. He said I am Pat Fing Tilman" Whose opportunity is this?
"I have not listened to tilman's brother's testomony yet but have only responded out of passion"
Then your passion is misplaced, that's probably how Kevin feels when he signed up right until he found out about the lies surrounding his brother's death.
Well, you just did - so what does that say about you? Moral perversion is defending the lies and obfuscation of civil servants using the cloak of jingoistic patriotism.
U might not like this but Karma is real and u gonna get hit with it. It happens, lol. It might not be today, or a year from now, but when ith appens you will know, Evotelution. You will think back and say "Well why the hell did this happen to me, out of everyone else around me" And u will realize why it happened, when u think back to this comment. You have been cursed for life.
Thank God for real American hero's like the Tillman family. As Abe Lincoln said "To sin by silence when one should protest makes cowards of man." The Tillmans are no cowards.
What an abortion! You'd be a fool to fight for this idiot president. Pat would be sitting by a pool drinking a beer and getting laid instead of signing up to fight for these criminals who ordered his killing. Pat knew of the heroine poppy fields and was going to go public. He was deliberatley killed!
We lost the war when we invaded Iraq. Huh? That's right, waging war is much more than a military operation, it is also a nation-building operation. During the 2000 presidential campaign Bush said he didn't believe in nation-building. He's proved he not only doesn't believe in it, he doesn't know how to do it.
It's sad to think of all the millions of people in this country that there is no one with the brains and wisdom to get us out of this war. It doesn't make sense to me that the people governing this country, Congress, The President, and the Supreme Court are all there do to a popularity contest. When you really think about it most of them are no more impressive than the kids you voted for in High School.
Soldiers mean nothing, they are nothing but pawns for the powers that be to do with what they will. Their lives, and after death, their legacy are simply military properties to be exploited in the best possible way to serve the current adjenda. Why anyone would joint the military today is beyond me...
to answer your question....because they didnt volunteer. before making idiotic, irrelevant comments you should bear in mind that our military is ALL VOLUNTEER
Precisely. So what you´re saying then is that apparently even Bush´s daughters don´t consider the cause worthy enough to volunteer. Thanks for supporting my point.
military service is certainly not a requirement to have an opinion and if you read what geo said you might see that i was responding to the question he asked, not on an opinion..READ what he said
Oh, silly me, I thought we lived in a free country were there wasn't some sort of "standing" requirement to have an opinion. You'd be a lot more credible if you pointed out what's wrong with the war instead of trying to imply that some people's opinions are somehow illegitimate. Really, this has to be the dumbest anti-war argument out there. Grow up.
The name calling I've read in these comments are sickening. It's one thing to disagree with someone in an intelligent manner, it's quite another to scream profanitys and insults in efforts to get your point across.
The Democrats have been trying every day to bring an end to this war and carry out the will of the people. President bush has veto power and there are not enough seats in congress to supersede the veto. Democrats are doing their DAMNDEST to try and serve the people, at every turn their efforts are thwarted by one of the most corrupt administrations this country has ever seen.
What a sad event. Sad because of Tillman's death, and sad because to some the truth depends on its impact on the message they are espousing. Either the war is good and there cannot be any bad news, or the war is bad so there cannot be any good news. Either extreme does a disservice to our nation.
Who has maintained a hands-off policy towards Bin Laden since the day he took office?
Whose hands-off policy towards Bin Laden and Saudi terrorism was actually made stronger following 9/11?
Who allowed Bin Laden to escape at Tora Bora in a grotesque attempt to build support for the occupation of Iraq by oil interests?
Someone explain how the elitist, draftdodgin coward in the White House - a former "male" CHEERLEADER - is anything but a wimp and an appeaser to Al Queda?
Let me explain ... he is also a pussy, a moron, a chickenhawk, a fascist, a loser, and a failure. Bascially he is George Costanza in the Seinfeild episode where he realizes every decision he has ever made is wrong.
reading posts from GW true believers here show just how mentally ill these nutjobs are. If it wasn't so damn said it would be funny as hell.
Bush's approval rating will never drop below 30% because these people are conditioned to corruption. The same people that sympathised for Nixon as though he was a victim. It is about time republicans accept responsibility for their failures and their ilk quit whining.
laleeloo- I think Nancy Pelosi's 'rating' has been below your post rating of Bush even before his so called drop in the "Polls" lol...AND NOW CONGRESS's rating is at 14% hey good one Dimokrats! LMAO That says alot about what America REALLY thinks about NanSyriaPelosi and SurrendeReid
So? Pelosi and Reid aren't running for President so even if the congress rating is at 0% the democrats would still be able to win in 08 by the simple fact that the other party candidates are even worse.
You should stay as bodyguard since you suck at political analysis.
laleeloo- I guess that would rate as the typical Dimokrat response...LOL, when the numbers are about how dimokrats suck, and TO CORRECT YOU, NansyriaPelosi and SurrendeReid were trying to be Defacto President and VP by THEIR treasonous actions.Besides, DIMS wont win again since Klinton and Nansyria have been exposed for the Socialist they really are, OsamaObama for the Islamic he is,and the rest for being just plain lefty
This is why you should stay as bodyguard and stop analyzing anything.
I'm actually a LIBERTARIAN (you can look up the definition in the dictionary).
And you can pretend that the rest of America thinks Osama and Clinton are not as popular as the Republican candidates all you want if it makes you feel any better.
looloo-OK, now that we know your a Paulian nut, its also obvious that your not too bright because you say I'm analyzing, which is also obviously NOT true, because all I have done is just give you the Numbers Facts of the 'Polls' YOU so proudly quoted before. lol This is NOT my analyzing or assumption on anything. The 'Polls' show Thompson ahead. lol Maybe YOU should try another line of work also, because You suck at responses based in anything but YOUR assumptions.
looloo- LOL... ALL THE 'POLLS', Start with Rasmussen, CNN, NBC, FOX,Pugh, Internet 'POLLS',etc. etc. My statement about Nansyria and surrendeReid was not analysis, but PURE truth, so it is NOT and CAN NOT be slander you dumbass...They both have tried to usurp the executive branch of our government(President) by going to nations known to be terror supporters and trying to be conducting foreign policy unauthorized, and Reid publicly declaring a war is lost while we are still engaged. =TREASON !
LOOLOO- LOL...It's actually hillarious how you 'Paulians and Dimokrats tend to try to discount,discredit and even just write off with excuses the 'Polls" if they don't suit YOUR agenda.LMAO...The Republican congressmen who went on the trip the week before, were NOT trying to supplement, subvert or discredit the foreign policy of the current Executive branch, so the obvious answer to your inane question is not THEY are not.
Who is the military guy over Tillman's shoulder giving him the evil eye? It's downright scary. What 'til Fox News smears Kevin Tillman. It will happen in today's Republican media.
FUCK YOU, you sicko liberal, 4 yrs with a liberal in the White House, we will be speaking arabic, no we would all be dead,. you sicko, get some brains you ignorant jerk!!!!
Screw off, if Clinton hadn't been getting blow jobs in the oval office, he could of been doing his job, Bush had been in the White House for 8 months, Clinton had 8yrs. embassy, cole, and 1st world trade center bombings, yeah I would be pointing the finger at Bush, you dumb, ignorant, sicko, whose needs to get a high school diploma, whats your IQ 25, you just have so much info on the government, where do you get your top secret info, the internet, thats hilarious!
He was doing his job WHILE getting a bj. Now that's a real man. Bush couldn't tie his shoes and count to 10 at the same time.
Well, most of those casualties under Clinton were overseas. Plus, all the casualties don't come close to 9/11 and the Iraq/Afghanistan Wars. You're comparing a mouse to an elephant.
the worlds political leaders have never cared about citizens' deaths. never in history. and it will continue forever. dems and repubs are one and the same. always were, always will be. they are happy with that. good luck changing anything. here comes the draft! Georgy drunko will not leave office. he's in for another term. mark my words. how can anyone stop them? you cannot. protests are a silly waste of time. the leaders are entertained by them.
This is why we need someone who knows about war--someone like John Kerry or Wesley Clark (real American hero) or Chuck Hagel...or even McCain (but he's too much of a flip-flopper)
All chicken hawk Bush and Co has done is tell the world what previous administrations managed to hide from the masses throughout our short pathetic history. This administration is filled with dummies. Keystone cops. yes is no, good is bad, slavery is freedom etc. A lying stupid drunk as commander and chief. Reminds me of my daughters fat gym coach sitting and yelling at 5 graders
We would not be dead. We've been through much greater threat than Al Qaeda before (like: USSR, Nazis, Japan)...step out of the fear box, and live your life!
Al Qaeda is a CIA creation made to generate fear and provide an excuse for the expansion of the NEOCON agenda. The real threat is at our southern border yet Bush does nothing. Mexican drug smugglers go free while border patrol agents sit in prison for shooting drug smugglers. Bush destroyed America!
What a true example of how when faced with danger a persons reason and sense evades them. How would you not be able to comprehend in the heat of battle a period of silence where American voices were yelling at their attackers, their own side "stop shooting, were Americans" !
Did they ever identify the dumb fucks who were on the trigger end of a friendly weapon that killed an amazing guy ? Gibbolin
Gibb1972 2 weeks ago
I'm sorry bro, they didn't lose control, those fucking U.S. Army "Nazis" murdered your brother. They were in perfect control. Why else would they shoot a ranger who 1. let off a friendly smoke gernade 2. was wearing ranger uniform, and waving his arms yelling "I'm Pat Fucking Tillman!!!!" MURDER.
Dracanon 5 months ago
Read Jon Kraukauer For the whole story, read: Jon Krakauer - Where Men Win Glory
One of the best books I've read in years.
ToolFan68 7 months ago
The Yankees are going insane!
The american- Goverment is a big load of old hags CRAP!
What- u didn´t knew, put away the Burger then and open ur eyes!!!
Minajahn 8 months ago
Who needs enemies when you have dumb asses trying to kill you on your side.
UtubeHyperboleGuy 8 months ago
FUCK THE MILITARY FUCK BUSH this should not have happened.
mexijewishgal 9 months ago
My heart is with the Tillmans. I've been there in a certain way and the Military machine is a heartless self preserving entity without a conscious.
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RoseanYoksi47 1 year ago
George bush is an asshole he started the war by using nuclear weapons on one of the village in afgan he bomb innocent people for nuke testings and thats how the war started if he didnt do that those people who died in the twin towers could have live peacefully and the people who died in the war R.I.P those people and hate on George
p.s he trys to scare the afgan people but hope he gets what he deserve
and R.I.P Pat Tillman never forgotten
obeientshawn 1 year ago 3
@obeientshawn It's spelled Afghan, not afgan. Idiot.
QRF11B 1 year ago
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danp5648 1 year ago
Yea, after seeing this, it makes you want to go back and re-check the facts on 9/11.
jaymzdean 1 year ago 3
well after this incident, how is it possible that there are still people not understanding why so many countries didn´t believe there were any weapons of mass destruction in Irak and that the U.S. were desperately trying to talk them into war....
grossesTennis 1 year ago 2
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I think Pat Tillman was murdered because I heard he could be an asshole times.
TED2484 1 year ago
@TED2484 What's wrong with you, troll?
AWonderVenus 1 year ago
@TED2484
You're an asshole for spreading unsourced/unfounded rumors. What do you think should be done about you?
jaymzdean 1 year ago
this is sooooooooo errie, i really cant believe this, wow, to go to such extent to prolong a war dammmm
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Whenever I think about joining the military all I have to do is think about situations like this and people like Donald Rumsfeld, and I quickly come to my senses. Warmongers and the U. S. government in general treats soldiers and veterans like they're pawn pieces in their private game of chess.
Whether the War in Iraq/Afghanistan is just or not, soldiers who are commanded to put their lives in jeopardy deserve a lot more than what they've been getting!! Can't even get the TRUTH!!
william629 1 year ago
Thanks to the US govt for smuggling Heroin out of Afghanistan! And you wonder why we dont trust you morons. everyone is a terrorist except your murdering employees. Not all, but too many. Down with the banksters and Pelosi
ryno99 1 year ago
who is that prick over kevin tillmans right shoulder he shouldnt be in the US military you see that smirk on his fucking face
stevieray351 2 years ago 9
@stevieray351 Looks like hes made a career of sucking dk!
madmattressiv 1 year ago
This Veteran's only hope for this Country is term limits. Senators should do no more eight years and then get their own health insurance and share, like the rest of us, in the pitance that is Social Security. Nancy, it must be hard to look in the mirror. Public service is not supposed to be an oportunity for profit.
tat2dpair 2 years ago
Lying about Tillman was easy after our own government along with Mossad planned and carried out 9/11 so we could go to afghanistan and iraq. if you can lie about 9/11, then lying about Pat Tillman is easy.
cotullaguy 2 years ago 7
OMG! the TRUTH! and what did rumsfeld and bush have to say when Tillmen was killed
HarleyDHarkins 3 years ago 3
Tillman saw what was really going on in the middle east, and was about to start talking to press.
c-o-n-s-p-i-r-a-c-y
They happen! Wake up!
LordBoognish 3 years ago 5
This is an incredible hearing & though I don't agree with US military I stand by the Tillmans 100%. The Tillmans have shown incredible restraint considering their loss. It's a really pathetic day in American history when Bush & co. are STILL not charged for the war crimes they commited. This alone should of had them impeached. Pat was used for US propoganda to further lying politicians agenda...still no punishment for Bush % co. Send Bush & co. to the Hague.
ELisSheba 3 years ago 40
"ELisSheba" all days in american history are pathetic
TommyDean1 2 years ago
Nice post, Nancy. And what exactly has come of this? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Just like every other important issue, you raise a stink and then run away from it when it comes to taking corrective action. We still don't know who is culpable for Pat's death and his family still doesn't know the truth. Thanks for nothing.
jgrover78 3 years ago 2
jgrover78, you are completely blind. What has come of this indeed! The American public has FINALLY heard the truth of the Bush lies. Do you actually want us to believe that the ZERO OVERSIGHT during the first six years of GOP-majority control of both Houses of Congress would have changed if the DEMs didn't take over Congress in January 2007? Man are you dense. Thanks to the investigations the public and THE WORLD have learned about Bush's treasonous acts, and lies. Much has been accomplished!
medartist01 2 years ago
I'm the one who's dense? Gitmo was going to be shut down and we were either going to try the prisoners there or let them go but we now under the Dem-controlled DC are allowing the same policies to hold them. What truth has come out? Name me one.
I live near Mary Tillman and I can promise you she is not content for one second with the way this investigation has gone--it has gone nowhere. She is not satisfied because there was a coverup and this Congress has not followed up on its promise!
jgrover78 2 years ago
Lies to citizens by country leaders should be considered crimes against the country. Better to avoid an answer rather than lie.
JohnnyRock2000 3 years ago 3
It is commonly agreed that liars are amoung the most despicable people in our society. It is also true that lying is so common. It is also now apparent it is common among our leaders as well. Nixon was one of the first known, and then Clinton who understandably lied about his Jewish girlfriend blowing him regularly. In Canada, Mulroney, a Prime Minister took $300,000.00 bribes and Bush's whole administration is awash in a sea of lies. This is a shameful time.
JohnnyRock2000 3 years ago
Pretty sure cheney and bush would call this guy and his brother traitors, and terrorist sympathizers
R0YB0T 3 years ago 6
They sure would.
Of course coming from a gaggle of criminals who helped sponsor 911 (or at least let it happen), endorse torture, lied about weapons of mass destruc, spies on the American people, eviserated the Constitution, shills this phony war on terror, has demolished the dollar deliberately, signed on to the North American Union, I would consider such an accusation the highest honor.
Poor Pat Tillman. A great and sincere human being used as food for the new world order war machine.
911insidejo8 3 years ago 4
you shouldnt mark down doglover88 comment:- let everyone see how brainwashed, or what kind of traitor he is
whalefish83 3 years ago
let this be a lesson to any1 who enlists and puts thier life on the line for a government who only cares about their agenda and not your life.
vigildon 3 years ago 4
Thats Ok guess whos been fightin to give your right to voice your feelings ya thats right afganistan is not fun but you can feel good that someone else is going out there while you sleep safe at night. Your an ungrateful peice of shit
doglover88 3 years ago
you dip shitted, dumbfucked, sheepshit fed, ignorant head in the sand, can't see the wolf in the hen house, misled asswipe. i was born with the ability to talk. no war or anyone for that matter you stupid fuck can give me my voice and the ability to speak you fucking coward. stand up and be about something for once in your pathetic life you loser. stop believing that war lets you speak. thats the biggest piece of bullshit we americans have all been fed all our lives.if not go back2 planet uranus
vigildon 3 years ago 2
Im the coward yet I serve my country? Wow your misled you are so into your propoaganda bullshit. And I'm a traitor for sereving my country and believeing in what I fight for. My frineds have dided for freedom and all you can do is bad mouth these americans. I'v taken strapnel through my left leg and I'm the coward think about what your saying and who you are calling stupid
doglover88 3 years ago
You have no idea how applicable that is to the modern military.
stmk0 4 years ago
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When Will you people ever learn. so many of you think that there is a huge government plot or a cover up. I will say right now that Kevin Tillman is a coward in not following the Ranger creed That I have lived by since I've been in 3rd Battalion.He is dishonoring his brother. If i were to fall in my coming up tour I would be ashamed of my family if they were to do the same. Whether by friendly or hostile fire he died for his country they dont need to know exact details.
doglover88 4 years ago
Sorry Ranger but 4 rounds in a tight shot group to the forehead is not freindly fire and should be investigated.
berlinrelic 4 years ago 3
Never shall I fail my comrades. I will always keep myself mentally alert, physically strong and morally straight and I will shoulder more than my share of the task whatever it may be. One hundred percent and then some. NEVER SHALL I FAIL MY COMRADES!
Shmizzle2317 3 years ago 3
what a fucking mind fucked reprogrammed piece of shit you are...fuck your creed bitch!...what ever happened to ethics and telling the damn truth? if your creed supercedes truth and honor then by all means please take 2 center mass and 1 to the fucking dome you cocksucker.
vigildon 3 years ago 2
dude, what's your problem? what's ethical about manipulating information?
kofothree 3 years ago
dude!....not a goddamn thing is ethical about it...what the fuck is your problem???...cant you read my posts?...what??...my posts are interpretating to you that i think government lies are ethical?...anyway im gonna give you a pass because i think you misread my text.
vigildon 3 years ago
wow. you really are a piece of work. your beliefs are outdated and completely unamerican when compared to the constitution. "WAR" is big business and not for you and i. your slogans of ignorance is the mind virus you are imprisoned by therefore forever causing the division they have set out to impose upon all americans. you are a dick and should be slapped. FUCK YOUR WAR MINDED IRRATIONAL VIEWS!!!...get with the program and realized you've been mindfucked. or...is that your sense of freedumb
vigildon 3 years ago
Help bring the troops home. Support Ron Paul!
theropingeffect 4 years ago
Thank you, Kevin and Ms. Tillman, for working so hard to get out the truth about Pat's tragic death and the government cover-up that followed. If our Government would lie about this, what else are they lying about now? Americans, WAKE UP, your government lies to you regularly!!!!
74maggie 4 years ago 31
America is murdering their own people. The fat pigs are slave (employee) driver. They don't give a shit if you're dead. This greedy evils should be hanged upside down. JUSTICE MUST BE SERVE.
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kingdevin07 4 years ago
i just cannot get over the lack of outrage by the media over this cover-up.
freemeamg 4 years ago 9
Nancy (or whomever on her staff posts these and hopefully actually reads the comments: thank you for posting these, but we all want to know what you and others are going to do about holding the current administration accountable for the propaganda, the repeatedly contemptuous invoking of executive privilege, the refusal to answer to the American people whom they are supposed to serve, and the crimes.
lyricessence 4 years ago 2
American tv has cheap-ass audiostreams. Useless.
hatsikidope 4 years ago
An intelligent, educated atheist among retarded Christians--I can't say I'm surprised. This is just sad, and those responsible deserve jailtime.
Hicksville 4 years ago 2
Anyone who would join the military after knowing this obvious cover up are RETARDED. Fuck these lying pieces of trash.
SmirkingRevenge99 4 years ago
wow. you're ignorant of the fact that politics has nothing to do with military service. It's patriotism. Regardless of whether Iraq is right or wrong, the nation still needs a military for its defense.
IraqVetNY 4 years ago
Dear Kevin Tillman, the people who lied about your brothers death, what do you think of them?...if they lied about your brothers death, what else would they be capable of lying about?...possibly about why you are even in Iraq?...maybe about 9/11, too?...
theredpill99 4 years ago
There are no words for what the government has done to the Tillman's family, i live in England, just recently statistics have revealed that the number of people going into the Army has descreased, i am not surprised!!I always have tears for those sons&daughters fighting in the war whether they are British or American, this is the thanx they get, not fair!!RIP Pat, & all the others who've lost their lives.
Sinquin0202 4 years ago
I wonder if Blackwater Mercs are the secret police who are shooting at protesting soldiers. They probably get a little extra money under the table.
911fairytale 4 years ago
I just heard that President Bush will envoke EXECUTIVE PRIVLEGE in response to being questioned on the death of Pat Tillman? UNBELIEVABLE. What a slap in the face to the Tillman family and every american who has put their life on the line for this country.
UncleRico13 4 years ago
I wouldn't doubt if Pat Tillman's murder was ordered from a high ranking army officer...I wouldn't doubt it...maybe Tillman was talking too much...
theredpill99 4 years ago 4
What a slap in the face to the American people whom he is supposed to serve and to the democratic process which he is supposed to uphold.
lyricessence 4 years ago
FACE IT, (Fat)BodyGuardEAGLE - you got PWNED! you just cannot intellectually match up - you lost the argument, as has the US government.
GlobalSufi 4 years ago
laleeloolelo- If you really reside in Indonesia as your profile says, what the Hell do you care about American politics? Hmmmmm...Something smells about your whole situation, and your answers...
BODYGUARDEAGLE 4 years ago
What makes you think only American should care?
If my mother used to be one does that give me the right to care?
Besides what you guys do back there have an impact to all the world including mine.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
laleeloo- I guess that since 'Polls" are so important until they say you guys suck and only just rate the typical response "SO" from Dimokrats when they're about them, I guess the really funny thing is What you guys will say about 'Polls' showing a totally 'undeclared' candidate (F.Thompson) blowing the shoes off all the present 'declared' candidates, Dimokrat & Republican? I can't wait to hear this one...lol
BODYGUARDEAGLE 4 years ago
All CHRISTIANS should be BANNED from U.S ARMY & any ARMY around the world
llevijr 4 years ago
Did Pat Tillman forget that Jesus said, "for all who draw the sword will die by the sword."???..foolish
llevijr 4 years ago
the tillmans my atheist brothers! be strong!. you have won the war against christianty in your hearts, but lost a battle for the christian cause.i hope your family grows stronger and hope he killed many believers as he went down...christian and muslim alike
chamae01 4 years ago
moron!
wwwPNACATTACKcom 4 years ago
You ok? You want beef? get off the computer and walk the street & punch that guy square in the face. God is never against those who love him & never mocked as those who have died within 2 years.
llevijr 4 years ago
Let's all remeber those who have fallen on Memorial Day.
theropingeffect 4 years ago
I've always thought he was killed on purpose.....by one....I've followed this....felt funny from the start...when one shoots with encouragement, everbody shoots...seems un-RANGERLY....just too trained for this. I'm afraid his dominating personality brought jealously
killergeek 4 years ago
I was a Ranger..aco2/75 bad muthers .they probably interviewed the soldiers who fired first who obviously thought what they saw was what they saw.....combat is confusing..you want to live..you want to fight...but maybe somebody "fragged him" because they thought he was a posuer.......the Rangers is full of ultraviolent fighters...but they gov...they're iffy
killergeek 4 years ago
The American public (the one's who have a brain cell in their head) know exactly where things are at with the Bush Administration and nothing, and I do mean nothing, is ever going to make them appear heroic. The type of reporting of Pat Tilman's death and the Jessica Lynch recovery didn't fool anyone for long. People are capable, when they bother to pay attention, in seeing the falsehoods and "too good to be true" stories. Sorry to say it, but our President and company are an embarrassment.
utubersf 4 years ago
I think now that the impeachment of Cheney is on the table, and being covered by major media, we will see the Congress start to snowball in support. The Vietnam War ended when the people led the way.......
BeauJames59 4 years ago
Duncan Hunter is also calling for that coward Harry Reid to resign his position. And unlike Dennis Kookcinich, Hunter has not been marginalized as a crackpot. Kookcinich is just pissing in the wind on the impeachment of the VP.
patsagainstrats 4 years ago
I didn't think you had the balls to take on an issue head to head. Allow me to school you here. Whether or not someone has "been marginalized" is, now watch close, NOT a measure of the truth value of their statements. Pick an issue little man, let's party!
BeauJames59 4 years ago
"And unlike Dennis Kookcinich, Hunter has not been marginalized as a crackpot"
Since when does Dennis Kucinich ever marginalized as crackpot? And i do mean really marginalized not just insulted as crackpot by your right wing buddies.
Oh by the way Virginia congressional district also trying to impeach (the president not the VP) so i guess he's not just "pissing in the wind" huh?
Oh by the way Virginia
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
Over 300 Phd scholars, 150 family members of victims, a lot of the hollywood circle, lincoln & burlington Vermont, 100's of survivors, millions of americans want them exposed and then reinstate the constitution to the way it was before it got hi-jacked.
A war czar is wrong.
This side has the laws of nature outweighing the rule of law.
SCOBMAN 4 years ago
There you are people, YOUR government using the death of this man's brother as a propaganda tool, reducing his death to a public relations ploy, all based on lies..... Lies about WMD, lies about al Qaeda connections, lies about the threat to US by Iraq, torture ordered, secret prisons, spying on your private lives, bragging about it, padding their own pockets with no-bid contracts.
Impeach Now...impeach without malice, but we MUST impeach now.....
BeauJames59 4 years ago
Liberals are sick people. Did they hand you that hackneyed list of talking points at Starbucks this morning? LMAO!
patsagainstrats 4 years ago
I thought you might want to take on an issue, feel free if you wish. Labeling and name calling isn't debate. Go ahead and start with the fact that there was a coverup of Pat Tillman's death and his family was lied to. Go ahead and justify it. Let's party sucker!
BeauJames59 4 years ago
I wonder if Michelle Malkin from Hot Air, who currently has a "comedy video" about Democrats being defeatists would call the Tilman Family a bunch of cowards?
For all the US Soldiers currently serving and those who did amd those who never came back, you have my most sincere gratitude. It has been a disgrace how politicians have used you to exploit their own egos and continue to conduct a war of egotism.
MKB2814 4 years ago
forget the loud mouths, focus on how to inform voters.....the mouths are only preaching to the choir
BeauJames59 4 years ago
get this movie off ihate it,its stupid,its sick,and its boring.take this off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
legacy1975 4 years ago
Then don't watch you idiot!
ares213 4 years ago
this is sick - i hope the people responsible are held accountable
OliviaHadassah 4 years ago
Who's that hideously ugly, mousey little woman skulking over Mrs. Tillman's right shoulder? Is that the mistress of that rat-faced Waxman?
patsagainstrats 4 years ago
Can't attack Tillman because he actually serve unlike most of chickenhawk Republicans so you attack Waxman instead?
How classy. Not.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
Impeach Bush Now!!!
screwrepubs 4 years ago
Here's what needs to happen: Congress needs to grill every single commander, who was a part of this shameful disgrace to our military men and women, and find out who ordered them to lie about it. Whoever was ultimately responsible (if they were military) should be dishonorably dischared from the military. If it was Bush or Cheney who gave the order (which I believe probably did it) they need to be imeached; add one more scandal and controversy to this joke of an administration.
olivemike81 4 years ago
Well said!
TRAVLINGKING 4 years ago
There you are people, YOUR government using the death of this man's brother as a propaganda tool, reducing his death to a public relations ploy, all based on lies..... Lies about WMD, lies about al Qaeda connections, lies about the threat to US by Iraq, torture ordered, secret prisons, spying on your private lives, bragging about it, padding their own pockets with no-bid contracts.
Impeach Now...impeach without malice, but we MUST impeach now.....
BeauJames59 4 years ago
Tillman was a hero - he went and signed up like so many did in world war II. The government's handling of his death is an embarrassment.
avyakata 4 years ago
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Quit crying like a little bitch. Your brother would have never squealed on a football coach or military comander. They did not tell you about your brother gettting clipped by one of his own because you are a punk ass little brother and can't handle the truth. They hid it from you because they knew you would do something like this. You should have been more like your brother. You can keep trying.
evotelution 4 years ago
ouch.
orthoinsid 4 years ago
Yeah ouch, that guy's comment actually makes Republican looks worse than Kevin Tillman's testimony if that is even possible.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
This is not a republican and or democratic issue. both sides of the aile support the troops. It is that legacy and code of a soldier lost in battle that is on the line. Nobody in their right might considers it a mutally exclusive thing to support a troop yet on the other hand be opposed to the policies of administration or the way it has conducted itself. This is about Pat Tilman the hero soldier that people are trying to twist into a poster child which would make him roll in his grave.
evotelution 4 years ago
You can disagree with policy but don't try to make Tilman out to be a politician, he was a soldier son. He trusted that everyone understood that democractics and republicans support our troops. He was bipartician and in fact would not have wanted to be a poster child for anything besides his MOS. Please respect soldiers for thier code and do not pretent it is mutaually exclusive to do that as well as then oppose a certain policy or decision in the war on terror.
evotelution 4 years ago
so you are saying that the fact the us goverment hide from the worl the real truth its good, it was the right thing to do???? you are a mad man or woman...you should have your head check out by a doctor real soon, someday the truth will be the only thing that realy matters...my best regards to you....
paco20020 4 years ago
No I am not saying that the us government should hide the truth, foriegn man. But you have to realize Tilman was a born solider. This means that he was willing to sacrifice his legacy for his country and he trusted in the authority. For his brother to discredit his identity and you to assume that a soliders personal reality is of great importance at a time of war is being a bit idealistic and more insulting the true beauty of a hero like Tilman.
evotelution 4 years ago
All haters are losers but you, sir, are in a class by yourself.
avyakata 4 years ago
I am not a hater.
evotelution 4 years ago
If you are not a hater then what's your problem with Tillman's testimony?
He lost his brother and the government is lying about the situation in which he died.
And if you think the government hid it from him because he can't handle the truth, i think the fact that he is an army ranger who is able to face terrorists and insurgents proves he can handle the truth just fine.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
I have not listened to tilman's brother's testomony yet but have only responded out of passion. I will listen now but first let me answer your question. Yes, I think the government hid the truth. Yes, I think the government uses people as propoganda. Yes, I think that Pat Tilman was a cut above his brother. No, I would not put my countries reputation on the line with his brother over pat to fight terror.
evotelution 4 years ago
ok I listened. It is an opportunity for his brother to get some glow and or money for his family. He mentions legality. Pat signed up. He was a tool of the government. His family are not patriots. Pat was. I think his dad was...do you see Pat's dad talking about this? The brother wines...."this followed many political disasters." Pat did not wine. He said I am Pat Fing Tilman" Whose opportunity is this?
evotelution 4 years ago
Kill yourself
battlemullet 4 years ago
"I have not listened to tilman's brother's testomony yet but have only responded out of passion"
Then your passion is misplaced, that's probably how Kevin feels when he signed up right until he found out about the lies surrounding his brother's death.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
haha
orthoinsid 4 years ago
How much are you paid to discredit the Republican Party? Because your comment does a pretty good job of it.
fishhead06 4 years ago
This guy is a homosexual and need not reply to him as he is obviously morally perverted and jaded.
evotelution 4 years ago
Well, you just did - so what does that say about you? Moral perversion is defending the lies and obfuscation of civil servants using the cloak of jingoistic patriotism.
fishhead06 4 years ago
"This guy is a homosexual and need not reply to him as he is obviously morally perverted and jaded"
Are you some kind of parody of a Republican like Colbert?
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
U might not like this but Karma is real and u gonna get hit with it. It happens, lol. It might not be today, or a year from now, but when ith appens you will know, Evotelution. You will think back and say "Well why the hell did this happen to me, out of everyone else around me" And u will realize why it happened, when u think back to this comment. You have been cursed for life.
Poofyponcho 4 years ago
haha
orthoinsid 4 years ago
Thank you. I am anticipating the karma and welcome it the curse.
evotelution 4 years ago
Thank God for real American hero's like the Tillman family. As Abe Lincoln said "To sin by silence when one should protest makes cowards of man." The Tillmans are no cowards.
ksturner 4 years ago
What an abortion! You'd be a fool to fight for this idiot president. Pat would be sitting by a pool drinking a beer and getting laid instead of signing up to fight for these criminals who ordered his killing. Pat knew of the heroine poppy fields and was going to go public. He was deliberatley killed!
drsnk 4 years ago
We lost the war when we invaded Iraq. Huh? That's right, waging war is much more than a military operation, it is also a nation-building operation. During the 2000 presidential campaign Bush said he didn't believe in nation-building. He's proved he not only doesn't believe in it, he doesn't know how to do it.
tmo7759 4 years ago
It's sad to think of all the millions of people in this country that there is no one with the brains and wisdom to get us out of this war. It doesn't make sense to me that the people governing this country, Congress, The President, and the Supreme Court are all there do to a popularity contest. When you really think about it most of them are no more impressive than the kids you voted for in High School.
pongman 4 years ago
Soldiers mean nothing, they are nothing but pawns for the powers that be to do with what they will. Their lives, and after death, their legacy are simply military properties to be exploited in the best possible way to serve the current adjenda. Why anyone would joint the military today is beyond me...
jasonlajoie 4 years ago
It is crap like this that makes me start to wonder if the neocons planned 9/11 to start this war.
wpiman 4 years ago
ya think?.. you just now are waking up?
orthoinsid 4 years ago
Welcome to Bush´s war. Gee, why aren´t HIS kids fighting for freedom?! Impeach Bush and throw those cronies out! They work for US remember?
Geotubest 4 years ago
to answer your question....because they didnt volunteer. before making idiotic, irrelevant comments you should bear in mind that our military is ALL VOLUNTEER
jcrab66 4 years ago
Precisely. So what you´re saying then is that apparently even Bush´s daughters don´t consider the cause worthy enough to volunteer. Thanks for supporting my point.
Geotubest 4 years ago
What a borderline fascist attitude. Since when has military service been a requirement to have an opinion?
paxalexis 4 years ago
military service is certainly not a requirement to have an opinion and if you read what geo said you might see that i was responding to the question he asked, not on an opinion..READ what he said
jcrab66 4 years ago
"Since when has military service been a requirement to have an opinion?"
It does if your opinion support war.
If you support war and you are old enough to serve but didn't then you are a chickenhawk who needs to STFU.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
Oh, silly me, I thought we lived in a free country were there wasn't some sort of "standing" requirement to have an opinion. You'd be a lot more credible if you pointed out what's wrong with the war instead of trying to imply that some people's opinions are somehow illegitimate. Really, this has to be the dumbest anti-war argument out there. Grow up.
paxalexis 4 years ago
no, what i am saying is they didnt volunteer to join the military so thats why they arent fighting
jcrab66 4 years ago
"they didnt volunteer to join the military so thats why they arent fighting"
So why aren't they volunteering?!
Instead they are partying, they could at least have the decency to stay in good behaviour.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
you would think lady speaker could get someone to do a better job of synching the audio with the video
jcrab66 4 years ago
The name calling I've read in these comments are sickening. It's one thing to disagree with someone in an intelligent manner, it's quite another to scream profanitys and insults in efforts to get your point across.
jmprater 4 years ago
The Democrats have been trying every day to bring an end to this war and carry out the will of the people. President bush has veto power and there are not enough seats in congress to supersede the veto. Democrats are doing their DAMNDEST to try and serve the people, at every turn their efforts are thwarted by one of the most corrupt administrations this country has ever seen.
jmprater 4 years ago
If this information isn't enough to indict this entire administration, then I don't know what is.
jmprater 4 years ago
What a sad event. Sad because of Tillman's death, and sad because to some the truth depends on its impact on the message they are espousing. Either the war is good and there cannot be any bad news, or the war is bad so there cannot be any good news. Either extreme does a disservice to our nation.
noseldnik 4 years ago
Who is the officer in the backround with the smurk on his face. What is his problem. Look at the upper left corner of the screen.
si5749 4 years ago
Who has maintained a hands-off policy towards Bin Laden since the day he took office?
Whose hands-off policy towards Bin Laden and Saudi terrorism was actually made stronger following 9/11?
Who allowed Bin Laden to escape at Tora Bora in a grotesque attempt to build support for the occupation of Iraq by oil interests?
Someone explain how the elitist, draftdodgin coward in the White House - a former "male" CHEERLEADER - is anything but a wimp and an appeaser to Al Queda?
HNK222 4 years ago
Let me explain ... he is also a pussy, a moron, a chickenhawk, a fascist, a loser, and a failure. Bascially he is George Costanza in the Seinfeild episode where he realizes every decision he has ever made is wrong.
tmo7759 4 years ago
reading posts from GW true believers here show just how mentally ill these nutjobs are. If it wasn't so damn said it would be funny as hell.
Bush's approval rating will never drop below 30% because these people are conditioned to corruption. The same people that sympathised for Nixon as though he was a victim. It is about time republicans accept responsibility for their failures and their ilk quit whining.
scalliwagrx8 4 years ago
Actually according to the recent Harris survey his rating is now 28 percent.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
laleeloo- I think Nancy Pelosi's 'rating' has been below your post rating of Bush even before his so called drop in the "Polls" lol...AND NOW CONGRESS's rating is at 14% hey good one Dimokrats! LMAO That says alot about what America REALLY thinks about NanSyriaPelosi and SurrendeReid
BODYGUARDEAGLE 4 years ago
So? Pelosi and Reid aren't running for President so even if the congress rating is at 0% the democrats would still be able to win in 08 by the simple fact that the other party candidates are even worse.
You should stay as bodyguard since you suck at political analysis.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
laleeloo- I guess that would rate as the typical Dimokrat response...LOL, when the numbers are about how dimokrats suck, and TO CORRECT YOU, NansyriaPelosi and SurrendeReid were trying to be Defacto President and VP by THEIR treasonous actions.Besides, DIMS wont win again since Klinton and Nansyria have been exposed for the Socialist they really are, OsamaObama for the Islamic he is,and the rest for being just plain lefty
BODYGUARDEAGLE 4 years ago
This is why you should stay as bodyguard and stop analyzing anything.
I'm actually a LIBERTARIAN (you can look up the definition in the dictionary).
And you can pretend that the rest of America thinks Osama and Clinton are not as popular as the Republican candidates all you want if it makes you feel any better.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
looloo-OK, now that we know your a Paulian nut, its also obvious that your not too bright because you say I'm analyzing, which is also obviously NOT true, because all I have done is just give you the Numbers Facts of the 'Polls' YOU so proudly quoted before. lol This is NOT my analyzing or assumption on anything. The 'Polls' show Thompson ahead. lol Maybe YOU should try another line of work also, because You suck at responses based in anything but YOUR assumptions.
BODYGUARDEAGLE 4 years ago
"The 'Polls' show Thompson ahead"
Okay i play along, what poll is that?
And as for you not analyzing do you forget this comment?
"NansyriaPelosi and SurrendeReid were trying to be Defacto President and VP by THEIR treasonous actions"
If that isn't analysis then it is outright SLANDER.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
looloo- LOL... ALL THE 'POLLS', Start with Rasmussen, CNN, NBC, FOX,Pugh, Internet 'POLLS',etc. etc. My statement about Nansyria and surrendeReid was not analysis, but PURE truth, so it is NOT and CAN NOT be slander you dumbass...They both have tried to usurp the executive branch of our government(President) by going to nations known to be terror supporters and trying to be conducting foreign policy unauthorized, and Reid publicly declaring a war is lost while we are still engaged. =TREASON !
BODYGUARDEAGLE 4 years ago
"... ALL THE 'POLLS', Start with Rasmussen, CNN, NBC, FOX,Pugh, Internet 'POLLS',etc. etc"
Oh eagle you stupid bodyguard you.
The polls refer to Thompson's rating in the PRIMARY.
Not Thompson chance in winning the ACTUAL election.
"They both have tried to usurp the executive branch of our government(President) by going to nations known to be terror supporters"
What about those republican congressmen that went there a week BEFORE her? Are they traitors?
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
LOOLOO- LOL...It's actually hillarious how you 'Paulians and Dimokrats tend to try to discount,discredit and even just write off with excuses the 'Polls" if they don't suit YOUR agenda.LMAO...The Republican congressmen who went on the trip the week before, were NOT trying to supplement, subvert or discredit the foreign policy of the current Executive branch, so the obvious answer to your inane question is not THEY are not.
BODYGUARDEAGLE 4 years ago
Sigh, May i explain?
Hillary's 32% rating is from democrats demographic which is BIGGER than Thompson 47% rating from republican demographic.
In case you haven't notice republicans are outnumbered by at least 2 to 1 based on bush approval rating.
Oh and Pelosi weren't trying to subvert foreign policy either, you can ask the REPUBLICAN congressman David Hobson who went with her to verify it.
By the way eagle do you know that Pelosi's APPROVAL RATING is at 45 PERCENT?
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
Who is the military guy over Tillman's shoulder giving him the evil eye? It's downright scary. What 'til Fox News smears Kevin Tillman. It will happen in today's Republican media.
vanleerindc 4 years ago
FUCK YOU, you sicko liberal, 4 yrs with a liberal in the White House, we will be speaking arabic, no we would all be dead,. you sicko, get some brains you ignorant jerk!!!!
rocknrobn66 4 years ago
On whose watch did 9/11 happen?
And who said he "doesn't think about" Bin Laden within a few months of 9/11?
Who has a business relationship with the Bin Laden family going back 30 years?
Who allowed Bin Laden to be victorious over the US?
When it comes to taking it up the ass and appeasing Al Queda, the REPUBLICAN PARTY has no peers!
HNK222 4 years ago
Screw off, if Clinton hadn't been getting blow jobs in the oval office, he could of been doing his job, Bush had been in the White House for 8 months, Clinton had 8yrs. embassy, cole, and 1st world trade center bombings, yeah I would be pointing the finger at Bush, you dumb, ignorant, sicko, whose needs to get a high school diploma, whats your IQ 25, you just have so much info on the government, where do you get your top secret info, the internet, thats hilarious!
rocknrobn66 4 years ago
Must.. resist... urge to.. troll.. rocknrobn66.. too easy.. gnn..
nealiomcfisherton 4 years ago
Seriously, was that all one sentence?
510dustmite 4 years ago
um I'd like to know where you get yours... by the way, Bush has an IQ of 15, which means he's mentally retarded, so...
henrynzidane24an 4 years ago
He was doing his job WHILE getting a bj. Now that's a real man. Bush couldn't tie his shoes and count to 10 at the same time.
Well, most of those casualties under Clinton were overseas. Plus, all the casualties don't come close to 9/11 and the Iraq/Afghanistan Wars. You're comparing a mouse to an elephant.
Oh, and where do you get your info, wise sage?
trashcan1111 4 years ago
Well at least Clinton got the guy responsible for the first WTC bombing while Bush can't even catch Bin Laden and he has 6 years to do it!
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
whats so wrong with learning to speak arabic?
juggadore 4 years ago
the worlds political leaders have never cared about citizens' deaths. never in history. and it will continue forever. dems and repubs are one and the same. always were, always will be. they are happy with that. good luck changing anything. here comes the draft! Georgy drunko will not leave office. he's in for another term. mark my words. how can anyone stop them? you cannot. protests are a silly waste of time. the leaders are entertained by them.
pffft63 4 years ago
This is why we need someone who knows about war--someone like John Kerry or Wesley Clark (real American hero) or Chuck Hagel...or even McCain (but he's too much of a flip-flopper)
commiepanda 4 years ago
All chicken hawk Bush and Co has done is tell the world what previous administrations managed to hide from the masses throughout our short pathetic history. This administration is filled with dummies. Keystone cops. yes is no, good is bad, slavery is freedom etc. A lying stupid drunk as commander and chief. Reminds me of my daughters fat gym coach sitting and yelling at 5 graders
nadelbbirt 4 years ago
Fuck you, you sicko, 4yrs of a liberal in the White House, we'll all be dead, you stupid, ignorant sicko,
war is dirty, people die,Pat signed up, theres no draft!!!
rocknrobn66 4 years ago
We would not be dead. We've been through much greater threat than Al Qaeda before (like: USSR, Nazis, Japan)...step out of the fear box, and live your life!
fletc900 4 years ago
Al Qaeda is a CIA creation made to generate fear and provide an excuse for the expansion of the NEOCON agenda. The real threat is at our southern border yet Bush does nothing. Mexican drug smugglers go free while border patrol agents sit in prison for shooting drug smugglers. Bush destroyed America!
drsnk 4 years ago