Funny thing. I drove around the southern californian hills and nature for more than two months last summer. Drove past at least one of theese massive parks every day and not once did i see a single windmill NOT running... this video is a scam and the shooter should be ashamed.
so lets take a look now at a video of all the strip mining that has been done oh thats not it lets now look into the air we breathe who wants to breathe clean air right love how we can point out the negative in green energy lets not forgot of all the pollution and land that fossil fuels have created and still destroy and create f--king morons
there is not a happy answer because of efficiency, right now people complain about high prices and the other thing that is low cost and high BTU is oil/gas. so once technology gets better and supplies are limited, better technology will come out. I like the ideas of wind turbines but they have low power density and require too much land.
Wtf, people are never happy. Coal pollutes, nuclear goes boom, hydro floods land, Jesus Christ , what's wrong with the turbines? It doesn't take energy to "spool them up or down" as someone suggested. The blades change angle to maintain speed. Downside? Maybe they're not pretty, but unless u like living without electricity, either shut up or come up with something better. Guaranteed someone else will have a problem with that too.
You are looking at a very old wind farm that uses old technology. This is like comparing the wright brothers airplane to a Boeing. If we all traveled in old technology people would complain about the clutter in the sky. If you dislike clean energy I suggest you close your computer and never use it. Reducing your energy consumption is the only way we can reduce the need to produce more power generating facilities.
I am confused, looking at these pictures all I see is something good...
You expect us to get Anything without touching Anything? I'd advice looking at things a bit more realistic. The primary focus of Windmills imo, isn't just that their clean, but also that they are renewable and cheap.
How about you stop using any electricity, or plastics, rubber, metal, or produce, or anything else that uses fuel or electricity then you can lecture me on clean energy. Oh wait, whats that? You cant stop using all of those luxuries that are part of modern living? Thats right so quit your bitching!
Every generation produces it's unique blight upon the landscape. Past generations gave us cheap electricity and hydrocarbon emissions. This generation gives us extemely expensive electricity, decreased soil moisture, and the worst eyesore since Stalin started putting up high-rise apartments in St. Petersburg.
Well, at least the socialist technocrats feel good about themselves.
Every generation produces it's unique blight upon the landscape. Past generations gave us cheap electricity and hydrocarbon emissions. This generation gives us extemely expensive electricity, decreased soil moisture, and the worst eyesore since Stalin started putting up high-rise apartments in St. Petersburg.
Well, at least the socialist technocrats feel good about themselves.
@MrBen515 Do some simple research and you'll find wind power ain't the way forward. When the grid is taking electricity generated by wind farms they don't turn oil, gas or coal power stations off, they keep them burning, as backup, so in reality, they don't make shit of a difference. At all. They just increase your energy bill and cost you more money, and have an average output efficiency of around 19-23%. Invest in a load of hamsters and put them in wheels, Be more efficient and cleaner.
@brjacks1988 It's actually around 40% efficient and yields far cheaper electricity. Plus each turbine generates the amount of energy used during its manufacture within 4-7 months of operation. Through its lifetime each yields about 35 times the amount of energy used to put it there.
@brjacks1988 wind is closer to 45-50% efficient and everything you stated is a testament to our culture of greed, not the inefficiencies of wind and solar power.
yeah, your a genius! Fuck clean energy, lets just burn coal and and oil or deal with the after math of a failed nuclear reactor, why even try something new right? Brilliant mate....
Hey genius! Little problem with that. You still have to have all those coal and gas-fired plants up and running 24/7/365 for when the wind STOPS BLOWING. In fact it's more wasteful and polluting because they have to rev up and spool down several times a day but they can never be turned off. Just like stop-and-go city driving it takes MORE fuel and makes MORE pollution. Electricity can't be stored on a large scale.
If all the women stopped masturbating with their electric vibrators all day and went back to using their fingers, apples, oranges, bannas, cucumbers, zuccinies, egg plants, dildos, bottles, fire extinguishers, oak tree trunks etc., then that would reduce the worlds demand for electricity by 51%.
People should learn to switch off....save energy. I don't use dryers, dishwashers etc ...old fashioned way is the best it's how we lived and survived before..no problem to me..My energy bills are very low....I even walk everywhere I can, good exercise..maybe we all just need to change our lifestyles.
"This was once a pristine wilderness area" - yeah and now it has wind turbines.
So you drive your fuel guzzling car, you use plastic based video cameras, and you use coal burning based electricity to feed your fucking PC - so what are YOU complaining about big ASSHOLE IDIOTs.
So you drive your fuel guzzling car, you use plastic based video cameras, and you use coal burning based electricity to feed your fucking PC - so what are YOU complaining about ASShole Idiot.
Finally the energy greed of the USA has a face. And(!) it's growing on your soil, not on the soil of 3rd world countries. In my opinion, this is a change to the better.
Yep, Big money for the Filthy few. ONE SQUARE METER OF SUN EQUALS 1kW. 1 hour = 1kW hour. Use Fresnel lenses to concentrate sun on liquid-filled circulation pipes that heat the system. Store energy in high salinity tanks for when the sun is not shining.
Simple solutions exist. And there are MANY more.
Grow one food plant per person in your house. It will change your LIFE for Good.
@MrFixErit You dont need to do that. Below your feet there is a reactor. The biggest one we know. Producing 2000 zetawatthours per year. 10,000 times the consumption of the entire world. Harvest this. Its called "geo-thermal" energy. No weather problems. No wind problems. 24/7 availability. Way cheaper than all other alternative energy.
@AlMayer1100 You are so right there. The trouble here in Wales is the green lobby are sold on wind power and nothing else. Even if it spoils our beautiful countryside and the one thing we depend on tourism .
Quick reality check: It's a desert, not a national park. While the impact of wind farms is not non-existent, it is marginal next to the utter devastation done (to often rich ecosystems) by enormous coal mining operations and through oil extraction. Those of us in rich countries often act like that's not the case though, because it happens in far away places where poor people live and we've all gotten used to the consequences of our energy needs being someone else's problem.
Without that highway built in the middle of nowhere, no one would even see these turbines up close. Along with that, the ecosystem did not change with their installation.
all i hear is waaaa waaaa waaa suck it up hipies its a lot cleaner then oil wich btw you guys bitched about since the 60's!! so when we make a cleaner alternative you bitch about somthin else!! well its not gonna be perfect so get used to it.
pretty things along side of the road vs time spent enjoying the heat or ac or the computer or hot shower or tv or refrigerated food, or anything else that makes modern life modern. There is always going to be a trade off. I would have to assume that the maker of this vid is also just as outraged about the defacing of pristine wilderness in the north slope-prudhoe bay area of N. Alaska??? The "eternal" sources of energy have to be harnessed. Or we return to the dark ages., Our choice.
I dont see how putting up a windfarm destroys anything? I will admit, they are not astethicly the most ornate or beautiful of man's creations, but they look much better than an oil spill, or the aftermath of a nat gas pipeline explosion, they don't cause ur water to catch fire as it comes out of the tap. Maybe just don't put them right next to a road? I really dont think they would harm any of the wild life in the area, maybe just not pretty to look at, but think of the time spent looking at
Wind turbines is a lot less hazardous then a nuclear power plant = 100 000 years of radioactive waist or can blow up at any time. Coal or petrolium power plant wich pollutes the atmosphere and your childrens lungs + acide rain fall wich destroys lakes + global warming ! You really dont have to be a genius to figure it out ;-)
I've seen this area via Google Earth and they really crammed all these wind turbines together much more densely compared to other wind farm projects I've seen.
Still mixed on the prospect of wind energy. It's certainly gotten cheaper in $/kW but it can never be more than a supplemental source of power due to its naturally intermittent nature (same with solar). Yes you could theoretically store excess power in batteries however any kind of battery storage would drive up costs incredibly.
Wind and solar are not enough to meet the world's energy demands. They are unreliable and have downright awful cost-per-megawatt ratios. What are you going to do once you inevitably run out of Neodynium for turbines? Or the many other rare metals used in solar panels?
@OfficeThug And just what are those 'many' rare metals you are referring to in regards to the manufacture of solar panels? The sun is unreliable? And by the way, there is more than 30X more energy hitting the earth every day from the Sun, than all the energy we consume.
@xxskoolsuxx43 The sun don't shine during the evening, and it's radiation is scattered by clouds. In contrast, fossil and nuclear plants run almost 24/7 with very little down time.
Also do you have any idea what the surface area of the earth is? The amount of radiation hitting the same area covered by a typical plant of any kind is peanuts compared the the output of that plant. The more space and "stuff" you need to use to achieve the same result, the costlier it will be.
@xxskoolsuxx43 As for metal useage, there's plenty and they're crucial in the making of semiconductors for p and n-doping the silicon, stuff like indium and tantalum, as well as stuff that helps make up charge collector materials like gallium.
And before you ask, no, we cannot store surplus energy with any sort of cost-efficiency. As a battery chemist I can attest to the fact that there is virtually nothing going on in the field of large-scale energy storage, it's very primitive
YOU are aware he put you in debt. but made himself a nice penny, grow up, sustainable energy is needed, keep pouring in gas and oil and coal into making electricity
LSFATV - We have enough oil, coal and natural gas to last for longer than you think
now that is a stupid comment, and selfish one, yeah maybe we do until we are all dead, what about our kids, their kids, even in 300 years, what if they burned up all our resources 300 years ago? selfish POS
@skateonthexpnk well...tell that to LSFATV,,, I was just trying prove a point, I don't understand all the negative comments about windmills around... maybe people have just ran out of thing to be negative about on youtube
Wow look at all of you blaming the government.... do you not realize the people have the power? except when your a bunch of pussies, complaining on youtube, go to your government, write them letters, protest if needed, but no, you will complain on youtube, about what? WINDMILLS? ha...how much did nuclear plants cost when they came out, how much do they still cost to build, run, and maintain, and how much pollution and wasted resources? YOU are aware your country voted in bush and
awesome! thats a crapload of coal and gas and shit thats not going to end up in our air! there should be wind power everywhere. its the best behind nuclear power
Ok...let me get this straight, environmentalists...conning a frog into championing your cause is more attractive than the wind farms your video shows? Scratches head quizzically.....
This whole wind energy mess just further illustrates how the American people have been played by their elected officials who bought into the “global warming” hysteria that spawned the push for wind energy in the first place. And now that the renewable energy tax subsidies are gradually coming to an end in some places, the true financial and economic viability, or lack of wind energy, is on display for the world to see.
OK. An ugly and VERY old wind farm from experimental days. You want to talk NOW and REAL? Well, one modern machine now is worth ten old machines and are much more spaced out (laws oblige them to be anyway). And with what would you replace wind turbines in, say, Spain, where they cover 17% of demand annually? ANYBODY?? If you want to go out of your way to produce the ugly side of power, go film a coal or gas fired station. Or Fukushima!!
agree with @robmccar88 ......at some point or another .....we have to accept that renewable energy can help our future generations to sustain....when we have dug into all that can be dug-ed into!
so we can't burn coal even with the new pollution scrubbers, we can't frack the shale for natural gas, we can't build nukes. solar and wind are expensive but relatively clean. I'm so fed up with the whiners bitching about the windmills. the asthetics are in the eye of the beholder and most don't find windmills ugly. they are not very loud. birds? are you serious? something tells me they will adapt and learn to not fly into the huge spinny thing over there.
@TheMadCrumpet hey fuckstick, Americans currently use electricity. deal with it. why not piss and moan like a little bitch about living next to a coal fired power plant or a steel mill. How about tall city buildings or gravel pits or landfill mountains or refineries or any number of man made nuisances. some people will whine and complain no matter what you do. unfortunately they are the ones that get heard. more realistic and practical people need to speak up and drown out the nutjobs
@robmccar88 Hey asshole. I'm fine with coal power plants. At least those are actually efficient and are not totally propped up by my taxpayer dollars. This is totally subsidized by the government. The government is 15 trillion in debt and is bleeding 1.4 trillion annually. The billions the government throws at this shit only hurts future generations. Why don't you just open a plant that runs off the blood of dead babies, because those are who will suffer from all this wasteful spending.
@TheMadCrumpet yea you're absolutely right man. definetly better to keep producing energy in a way that will eventually finish. once the coal and oil runs out, then what do you propose? you really think it's a good idea to stay dependent on a resource that we know for a fact is going to finish sometime pretty soon? god, you sure do know how to plan for the future. besides the fact that the oil industry has some of the biggest tax breaks and subsidies than anything else, especially wind power
@LSFATV We have enough oil, coal and natural gas to last for longer than you think.Of course you're under the impression that the government has to switch us to a different form of energy because the free market can't. That is where our viewpoints differ.The free market is pushing against these newer forms of energy because they are not yet cost efficient and yet the government keeps on doing it. Imagine what would have happend if the government intervined in the computer industry during the 80s
@LSFATV Almost everything the government does causes prices to rise. Look at healthcare and College tuituions. The government took over the student loan industry, the prices of tuition go through the roof. The government takes over healthcare, the prices go through the roof. The government decides to get into the business of mortgages. Housing prices boom, and then collapse causing a depression.
Look at computers. The government stays away, prices go down and technology increases.
@LSFATV I have no doubt that we will have to use new forms of energy in the future. It's just I would prefer having the market ease us into in a cost effecitve manner. It's better than the government trying to force out a baby that is still developing in the whomb. Besides, the government has no money. All we are doing is destroying our future. What good is a million windmills and solar panels, if there is a total economic breakdown and people are rioting in the streets?
There may be no perfectly trouble free energy techology, but it amazes me how anyone can ignore the health benefits here both environmentally and to humans. Carbon-based fuels are behind widespread lung disease in cities, my son in point, who suffers potentially deadly asthma. It has been given an uncritical free pass for far too long. Wind power can be paired with energy storage infrastructures such as hydro dam "batteries" or underground pressure chambers to broaden the reliability.
This is the single most expensive per KWhr energy market in America dispite masive taxpayer subsidies. It's getting worse as the turbines age and maintenance expenses mount along with down time. This is also one of the absolute best wind locations in the country. The wind blows almost all the time and it blows hard. Despite that fact the this facility wouldn't last a year without tax payer subsidies. If it can't be made to work here what the hell makes anyone think it will work elsewhere.
Why would all you dumbfucks rather see a big huge coal factory pluming out 7 tons (Yes 7+ tons or more) of Green house gases a hour over a farm of quiet pleasant white wind turbines? Your logic is flawed.
@14omega28ok Iknow, in my area duke energy wants to put 100+ turbines around the valley I live in. so many people are against it. and I always tell them;"would you rather see a massive nuclear or coal plant right here?"
"This was once a pristine wilderness area" - yeah and now it has wind turbines.
So you drive your fuel guzzling car, you use plastic based video cameras, and you use coal burning based electricity to feed your fucking PC - so what are YOU complaining about arsehole.
@callmeshane303 I'm not sure I understand your comeback. So then it's okay to ruin the wilderness? I think he makes a good point. It once was a pristine wilderness area.
@callmeshane303 Wind turbines of this design are useless. We have endless amounts of green energy in other forms, but these windfarms are about money making....not energy saving.
@roseipk Of course they are about money making. Generating electricity and making a profit, thats what every source of energy tries to do. Why would anyone just pull a fortune out of their ass to build wind turbines when theres no promise of breaking even?
@captainumbnuts2 yes absolutely ZERO. none nodda zip. Between China and India they are firing up one new coal plant every eight days. Even if wind did make sense we need about 3-5 million wind mills which will get rid of zero nuke plants. Every windfarm will need a backup plant for when the wind doesn't blow so at best you'd get a reduction of use that the chinese and indians will more than compenstate for with their increased coal plants which doen't have our emission reduction technology.
@firechaser4, one doesn't need to be "pro oil" to be anti industrial blight on the landscape. Why make it so mindlessly simplistic?
The breed of so-called environmentalists who push wind turbines will never make sense to me. I always thought of "the environment" as including the pristine visual (and audible) state of nature, which wind turbines are seriously messing with.
We need more birth control above all else - to stop the constantly growing demand for energy.
Amen to that - overpopulation & liquid & gas pollution are the main issues, CO2 warming is a made up cover to industrialise vast portions of the countryside & other rural environments with turbines. Which in themselves are highly polluting to make & transport. Google: rare earth metals & turbines & china and see what happens.....
how are turbines produced and transported & constructed without the use of oil? Is it magic green fairy dust that powers the power stations supplying the vast smelting works required to produce the steel & aluminium these turbines consume. Is fairy dust powering the excavators taking the iron ore & other minerals out of the earth to produce the steel and aluminium? Does this fairy dust power the boats bringing the turbines over from China? does this dust produce the plastics etc
I see a lot of stupid eco clowns posting how great and beautiful these behemoth looking turbo fans are. I'll bet you all voted for the great ONE didn't you? Any of you still a fan of him and his wise investment of Solyndra?
Wind farms give me the creeps. I live in Illinois and the beautiful green farmland is being taken over by these creepy wind farms. We love to go camping west of our town and on the way we pass through beautiful farm land, woods and then we come upon the wind farms with their stupid fan looking turbine fans. This weekend we had beautiful fall colors and then we came upon the stupid wind farms again. Stupid non U.S. made wind farms.
I'll take this over coal plants and nuclear plants any day. By using youtube and posting this video you are using electricity. Guess that never occurred to you hypocrit.
Please don't call them wind "farms." Farms are where things are grown. These monsters don't grow. They are Industrial Wind Turbine Complexes! And, if you read scientific studies about them, you will find that they are not very efficient. If you listen to the government or the taxpayer subsidized wind energy companies, they are the answer to all our energy problems.
In the United States, turbines kill 70,000 birds per year, compared to 500 million killed by domestic cats every year. If you’re really a bird lover, point your finger over at those ferocious felines. A real concern for birds is noted in the 2009 study in Nature that estimated that up to a quarter of all bird species could become extinct by 2054 due to global climate change, for which wind energy is one of the solutions.
This guy is right think of all the Fossil fuels used in the process of making all the parts involved, shipping all those parts to there destination, assembling the parts on location i.e Cranes, The workers driving to and from the field everyday while they are being assembled, Lets not forget the fact that then you have to factor in the construction of new transformer stations, and in locations where they put in a wind farm like the one near me deforestation
I'm no Eco Nut I drive a 3mpg Jeep, and heat my house with a 20 year old oil thirsty furnace. I'm just pointing out the obvious reality that windmills are a make work project for generations to come.
@NewWiseGuy Then apparently you are not well informed. They are already cutting out millions of lbs of fossil fuel globally each year and will continue to grow. I do not think they look bad and would rather them be there then my grandchildren be born with automatic health problems because we are pumping so many pollutants into the air with no regard to health and environment!
@hynzify If you think I voted for bush, you are misled. Obama is pretty much Bush's third term. I oppose all these wars, and I oppose the welfare. I don't just support any Republican who claims to be conservative... I only support Ron Paul.
@123kkambiz I have. Let the free market decide what we use and stop subsidizing energies that we prefer... We are shutting down 25% of our coal plants by 2015 for no apparent reason other than this illusive climate change... which is nothing more than the 50km pole shifts we get each year. What would of happend if, when the first computer was created, we all went to that and dropped all type writers immediatly... We have to let the free market ease us into new energies when it is cost efficient.
@TheMadCrumpet How did he do that? These things was in use way before he was even born. They ACTUALLY DO make power and in some areas like umm "deserts" they are the only way to get power... Yea... fucking al fooled everyone didnt he.
@vasthtml He promotes all these green energy initatives while he holds stocks in them... He gains to profit from things like cap and trade and green energy. At the moment green energy is not cost efficient at all... We need to let the market ease us into these things, not the government. Imagine if in 1915 the government forced everyone to get rid of their horses and buggies and use cars because they are better... It doesn't work that way. Stop the subsidies and bail outs of these corporations..
If NASA would release the patents for the space solar panels we would never need to pay for power again...untill then wind power is the best we got...
This is necessary to save the planet. I live by this wind farm and you seem to fail to mention the impact of the freeway that cut migration routes to and from San Gorgonio and San Jacinto Mt. and the casino and strip mall's. You are truly a fool!! but I do like the song. P.S. i am almost finished with my wind turbine technician program. Tell me where you live so I can suggest a wind farm in your area.
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@bbbbb2013 The "planet" is safe. We are doing no harm with anything we do. We are a part of nature, as surely as the birds and the trees. What we do is very much a part of the evolution of the planet. Truth be told, unless we humans are able to continue to advance, the planet will certainly be completely destroyed. The evolving sun will eventually engulf the Earth. We are the only hope of saving any part of it before that happens.
@NewWiseGuy, unless you're being sarcastic that's a complete lie. Total denial of man-made deforestation, extinctions, water shortages, toxic pesticides, radiation poisoning, air pollution, water pollution, global warming, etc?
If Man is all natural, what is NOT natural? The definition begs the question. Man has introduced all kinds of substances and physical impacts that nature itself couldn't have produced.
What is the point of this video, anyhow? It seems schizoid in light of your comment.
@NewWiseGuy Hey man you may have never gone to school and learned about this, but this world is just several switch flips away from nuclear winter. We can easily destroy the planet as much as we can improve it.
@NewWiseGuy ROFLMFAO!!!!! Omg sorry dude but you made me laugh. Yes we ARE harming this planet, Humans are the reason I am feeling 2.0 - 4.9 Earthquakes every single day almost here in what used to be a Seismically quiet Oklahoma. The Sun thing? Lmfao you are NOT going to save this planet from the Sun engulfing us. Our only hope is to get the fuck off this planet, As its almost/pretty much dead if we keep on this rate. Please educate yourself before making yourself look like a complete dumbass.
@bbbbb2013 lol i can tell you where I live but we have a mandate against that here in the blur ridge mtns. and besides tminate domain doesnt exist here either so cant be forced to do as asked by anyone
The video states "this once was a pristine, natural, desert ecosytem". The great thing about wind farms is that they allow the ground they are built on to remain "natural". All the wee beasties and plants can get on with their lives quite happily. With nuclear and fossil fuel the ground is wholly built-on and remains contaminated for decades (centuries for nuclear) afterwards. The mining of raw materials they require only adds to the environmental devastation.
@NewWiseGuy Studies have shown birds can easily see turbines and they simply avoid them. You will get the odd bird making an error in judgement but clean house windows are many times more dangerous to them than wind turbines. If you consider how birds can see tiny prey from relatively great heights, it's a bit insulting to claim they can't see big, muckle wind turbines :)
@MeBungoPony Unfortunately that just isn't true. There is a nice video showing a hawk, playing around the moving blades until he is struck. Bats are devastated by wind turbines. They seem to be attracted to them, and then they die of the sudden pressure change near the blades. they don't even need to be hit. Besides, whay have this hazzard when they don't replace fossil fuels anyhow?
@NewWiseGuy I'm afraid we'll have to differ here. Turbines do kill birds but are among the lowest risks to them. As I said, they can see them. In the US, turbines reportedly kill around 70k birds/year; aircraft - 80k; cars - 57m; windows - 97m; cats - 500m. It is estimated fossil fuels kill 10x more birds than wind. People always cite the one video that shows a bird being killed by a turbine. Try doing a search for images of bird strikes on windows. You'll get thousands of examples.
@MeBungoPony, you are lying about those "studies." Even the large turbines have very high blade-tip speeds. Turbines are not benign for birds, and they trash natural landscapes.
And no, I'm not "pro oil" just because I am honest about the downside of wind power. I'm not for putting solar farms all over the desert, either. Solar belongs on existing man-made structures. We can't keep widening our physical footprint for the sake of reducing our carbon footprint. Too much of a trade-off.
@Antithropocentric I can only be "lying" if I made up the stats I posted. As I only quoted the results of other peoples studies, your claim is unwarranted. I never claimed turbines were "benign" to birds. But for the most part, they see and avoid them. Hence only 70k bird deaths in the US from turbines compared to nearly 100m from windows. You appear to be a foil to "panzermacher", who claims wind energy is a conspiracy to reduce world popln, while you see it as a misguided way to maintain it.
@MeBungoPony, bird deaths from turbines are in ADDITION to, not in competition with, deaths from hitting windows, etc. "Only" 70k seems like an odd statement. Remember, they want to massively increase the numbers of turbines, so it's a growing issue. They also kill a lot of bats.
I don't see a death conspiracy, just a callous attitude toward priceless landscapes, and overstatements about actual power produced. There are many articles on those topics for those who care to read them.
@captainumbnuts2 Sorry, your link took me to a Dutch (I think) site with no indication of what I was supposed to be looking at. I don't speak Dutch :(
@NewWiseGuy , yeah lets save the birds, fuck the air quality, the birds are more important. You see my point here? Eventually you have to step in and decide what is more important, the lives of a few thousand beards per year, or the future of our planet. I pick our planet. You pick the birds. None of our decisions matter right now. However think to 200 years from now, what will the planet be like when our great great great grandchildren's turn comes?
The planet will be full of people without any space whatsoever & wind turbines will be a long gone dangerous & expensive folly, but the landowners will have made a fortune out of it. As for the 'beards' they will have been eaten by the starving multiple billions.
@MeBungoPony "The great thing about wind farms is that they allow the ground they are built on to remain "natural"
Except for the 1000 tons of cement used to anchor these 400 ft titanium monstrosities & you fail to mention that a Coal fueled Power station or a Nuclear Plant only requires 1000th of the land area needed to generate MORE electricity in 1 day than this wind farm will generate in a year.
..the NWO plans to kill off 90 percent of the humans.
No need for extensive power infrastructure of any kind , after the herd has been culled.
No worries.
eaterofclams 3 days ago
Funny thing. I drove around the southern californian hills and nature for more than two months last summer. Drove past at least one of theese massive parks every day and not once did i see a single windmill NOT running... this video is a scam and the shooter should be ashamed.
WulfsMorgenPils 3 days ago
this is in china
kobe1bryant1fan 4 days ago
so lets take a look now at a video of all the strip mining that has been done oh thats not it lets now look into the air we breathe who wants to breathe clean air right love how we can point out the negative in green energy lets not forgot of all the pollution and land that fossil fuels have created and still destroy and create f--king morons
scubafitz69 1 week ago
there is not a happy answer because of efficiency, right now people complain about high prices and the other thing that is low cost and high BTU is oil/gas. so once technology gets better and supplies are limited, better technology will come out. I like the ideas of wind turbines but they have low power density and require too much land.
angelqueen539 1 week ago
Wtf, people are never happy. Coal pollutes, nuclear goes boom, hydro floods land, Jesus Christ , what's wrong with the turbines? It doesn't take energy to "spool them up or down" as someone suggested. The blades change angle to maintain speed. Downside? Maybe they're not pretty, but unless u like living without electricity, either shut up or come up with something better. Guaranteed someone else will have a problem with that too.
dieseldeanjesse 2 weeks ago 3
@dieseldeanjesse Coal is better.
jkovert 2 weeks ago
the op is a fucking idoit......
kaltadesmon 2 weeks ago 2
This video is fucking stupid...I lived right next to those and they were fucking cool as hell!
GG4S3xTo 2 weeks ago
terrible video... so annoying
fuckthechurch 3 weeks ago
Weird and cool!
MrSpongedog5 1 month ago
The only reliable, natural way to operate a generator is a dam.
thirdsamuel43 1 month ago 2
You are looking at a very old wind farm that uses old technology. This is like comparing the wright brothers airplane to a Boeing. If we all traveled in old technology people would complain about the clutter in the sky. If you dislike clean energy I suggest you close your computer and never use it. Reducing your energy consumption is the only way we can reduce the need to produce more power generating facilities.
booter1100 1 month ago
I am confused, looking at these pictures all I see is something good...
You expect us to get Anything without touching Anything? I'd advice looking at things a bit more realistic. The primary focus of Windmills imo, isn't just that their clean, but also that they are renewable and cheap.
AarsalM 1 month ago
Would you swap that for an open cut coal mine 10 times the land area,
82snowball 1 month ago
How about you stop using any electricity, or plastics, rubber, metal, or produce, or anything else that uses fuel or electricity then you can lecture me on clean energy. Oh wait, whats that? You cant stop using all of those luxuries that are part of modern living? Thats right so quit your bitching!
GaryParent 1 month ago
what is this crap???
bjkerp 1 month ago
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Every generation produces it's unique blight upon the landscape. Past generations gave us cheap electricity and hydrocarbon emissions. This generation gives us extemely expensive electricity, decreased soil moisture, and the worst eyesore since Stalin started putting up high-rise apartments in St. Petersburg.
Well, at least the socialist technocrats feel good about themselves.
CosmasNDamian 1 month ago
Every generation produces it's unique blight upon the landscape. Past generations gave us cheap electricity and hydrocarbon emissions. This generation gives us extemely expensive electricity, decreased soil moisture, and the worst eyesore since Stalin started putting up high-rise apartments in St. Petersburg.
Well, at least the socialist technocrats feel good about themselves.
CosmasNDamian 1 month ago
Yeah man, there's not nearly enough useless desert land in the world.
darraghmcgrath18 1 month ago
@MrBen515 Do some simple research and you'll find wind power ain't the way forward. When the grid is taking electricity generated by wind farms they don't turn oil, gas or coal power stations off, they keep them burning, as backup, so in reality, they don't make shit of a difference. At all. They just increase your energy bill and cost you more money, and have an average output efficiency of around 19-23%. Invest in a load of hamsters and put them in wheels, Be more efficient and cleaner.
brjacks1988 1 month ago
@brjacks1988 It's actually around 40% efficient and yields far cheaper electricity. Plus each turbine generates the amount of energy used during its manufacture within 4-7 months of operation. Through its lifetime each yields about 35 times the amount of energy used to put it there.
darraghmcgrath18 1 month ago
@brjacks1988 wind is closer to 45-50% efficient and everything you stated is a testament to our culture of greed, not the inefficiencies of wind and solar power.
UncleArty1 1 month ago
Beautiful sight can you get some video of them operating that would nice to see.
ohyrag 1 month ago
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WORLD RECORD: BIGGEST WIND TURBINE
Visit: windturbinecarriedbywheels.weebly.com
ZERO-NOISE from gears and generators since they're sealed underground.
SAVES THE BIRDS AND BATS since the turbines are slow-moving.
DOES NOT NEED TO OCCUPY A WIDER LANDSCAPE since the turbine can be very tall.
MAY BE LOWER-COST since it can use parts of junked trucks and others.
ELUDES HURRICANE FORCE since the blades automatically close.
HELPS THE WIND ENERGY COMPANIES since it is FREE FOR ALL.
TheServiceWeb 1 month ago
oh god, someones always gotta complain.
mrsrobypaul 1 month ago
Well I found Darth Vaders lightsaber
BrewCrew4Life21 1 month ago
yeah, your a genius! Fuck clean energy, lets just burn coal and and oil or deal with the after math of a failed nuclear reactor, why even try something new right? Brilliant mate....
MrBen515 1 month ago 13
@MrBen515Well said m8.
IntEngT 1 month ago
@MrBen515
Hey genius! Little problem with that. You still have to have all those coal and gas-fired plants up and running 24/7/365 for when the wind STOPS BLOWING. In fact it's more wasteful and polluting because they have to rev up and spool down several times a day but they can never be turned off. Just like stop-and-go city driving it takes MORE fuel and makes MORE pollution. Electricity can't be stored on a large scale.
pinz2022 2 weeks ago
If all the women stopped masturbating with their electric vibrators all day and went back to using their fingers, apples, oranges, bannas, cucumbers, zuccinies, egg plants, dildos, bottles, fire extinguishers, oak tree trunks etc., then that would reduce the worlds demand for electricity by 51%.
callmeshane303 1 month ago
People should learn to switch off....save energy. I don't use dryers, dishwashers etc ...old fashioned way is the best it's how we lived and survived before..no problem to me..My energy bills are very low....I even walk everywhere I can, good exercise..maybe we all just need to change our lifestyles.
roseipk 1 month ago
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@NewWisGuy
"This was once a pristine wilderness area" - yeah and now it has wind turbines.
So you drive your fuel guzzling car, you use plastic based video cameras, and you use coal burning based electricity to feed your fucking PC - so what are YOU complaining about big ASSHOLE IDIOTs.
123kkambiz 1 month ago
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"This was once a pristine wilderness area" - yeah and now it has wind turbines.
@NewWiseGuy
So you drive your fuel guzzling car, you use plastic based video cameras, and you use coal burning based electricity to feed your fucking PC - so what are YOU complaining about ASShole Idiot.
123kkambiz 1 month ago
In ten years time it's all gone, Thorium will replace most of them.
Tralgit 1 month ago
Finally the energy greed of the USA has a face. And(!) it's growing on your soil, not on the soil of 3rd world countries. In my opinion, this is a change to the better.
AlMayer1100 1 month ago
NIMBY asshole
bigdougo 1 month ago
Yep, Big money for the Filthy few. ONE SQUARE METER OF SUN EQUALS 1kW. 1 hour = 1kW hour. Use Fresnel lenses to concentrate sun on liquid-filled circulation pipes that heat the system. Store energy in high salinity tanks for when the sun is not shining.
Simple solutions exist. And there are MANY more.
Grow one food plant per person in your house. It will change your LIFE for Good.
No more excuses for ignorance and apathy.
May Peace Prevail on Earth
MrFixErit 2 months ago
@MrFixErit You dont need to do that. Below your feet there is a reactor. The biggest one we know. Producing 2000 zetawatthours per year. 10,000 times the consumption of the entire world. Harvest this. Its called "geo-thermal" energy. No weather problems. No wind problems. 24/7 availability. Way cheaper than all other alternative energy.
AlMayer1100 1 month ago
@AlMayer1100 True. And do we mention ZPE?
MrFixErit 1 month ago
@AlMayer1100
OK - electric drill and several K of extension cord.
Post the video when your done.
callmeshane303 1 month ago
@AlMayer1100 You are so right there. The trouble here in Wales is the green lobby are sold on wind power and nothing else. Even if it spoils our beautiful countryside and the one thing we depend on tourism .
taffy402 1 week ago
Quick reality check: It's a desert, not a national park. While the impact of wind farms is not non-existent, it is marginal next to the utter devastation done (to often rich ecosystems) by enormous coal mining operations and through oil extraction. Those of us in rich countries often act like that's not the case though, because it happens in far away places where poor people live and we've all gotten used to the consequences of our energy needs being someone else's problem.
iaincollins 2 months ago
Without that highway built in the middle of nowhere, no one would even see these turbines up close. Along with that, the ecosystem did not change with their installation.
flavious27 2 months ago
Oil dericks would be a better stigh on the landscape... At least that energy is somewhat efficient, this just mars the landscape and kills wildlife
pinedrape30 2 months ago
all i hear is waaaa waaaa waaa suck it up hipies its a lot cleaner then oil wich btw you guys bitched about since the 60's!! so when we make a cleaner alternative you bitch about somthin else!! well its not gonna be perfect so get used to it.
sargentshaft 2 months ago
pretty things along side of the road vs time spent enjoying the heat or ac or the computer or hot shower or tv or refrigerated food, or anything else that makes modern life modern. There is always going to be a trade off. I would have to assume that the maker of this vid is also just as outraged about the defacing of pristine wilderness in the north slope-prudhoe bay area of N. Alaska??? The "eternal" sources of energy have to be harnessed. Or we return to the dark ages., Our choice.
MrDANNYUNDERWOODky 2 months ago
I dont see how putting up a windfarm destroys anything? I will admit, they are not astethicly the most ornate or beautiful of man's creations, but they look much better than an oil spill, or the aftermath of a nat gas pipeline explosion, they don't cause ur water to catch fire as it comes out of the tap. Maybe just don't put them right next to a road? I really dont think they would harm any of the wild life in the area, maybe just not pretty to look at, but think of the time spent looking at
MrDANNYUNDERWOODky 2 months ago
this video blows donkey member
billhein0401 2 months ago
Wind turbines is a lot less hazardous then a nuclear power plant = 100 000 years of radioactive waist or can blow up at any time. Coal or petrolium power plant wich pollutes the atmosphere and your childrens lungs + acide rain fall wich destroys lakes + global warming ! You really dont have to be a genius to figure it out ;-)
3nlighted 2 months ago
Speacking of windmills I have my "wind power blows me away" shirt.
christianbanaski1 2 months ago
So what's next? Before (Dutch settlement) and after (today) pictures of Manhattan Island?
Are we supposed to let every spot of earth remain "pristine" and go live in caves?
cbf9427 2 months ago
yea ...having eletricty sucks
macandtrv 2 months ago
These windmill farms are making strip mining look good again. At least those can be replanted when they're finished.
spacerconrad 2 months ago
poor animals, they wont have anywhere to live
TD5X 2 months ago
Ahh californians.. Always bitching..
hwoods01 2 months ago
terrible.... this is defnately not the solution for powering the future.
SaGruenwdt 2 months ago
I LOVE THIS SONG!!!!!!!!!!!
Jdog5234 2 months ago
I've seen this area via Google Earth and they really crammed all these wind turbines together much more densely compared to other wind farm projects I've seen.
Still mixed on the prospect of wind energy. It's certainly gotten cheaper in $/kW but it can never be more than a supplemental source of power due to its naturally intermittent nature (same with solar). Yes you could theoretically store excess power in batteries however any kind of battery storage would drive up costs incredibly.
cortezopossum 2 months ago
Love to see a bird make it through that - forget Frogger! Holy crap. Like a goldfish in a in-sink-er-ator (garbage disposal)
jmvahlsing 2 months ago
Wind and solar are not enough to meet the world's energy demands. They are unreliable and have downright awful cost-per-megawatt ratios. What are you going to do once you inevitably run out of Neodynium for turbines? Or the many other rare metals used in solar panels?
OfficeThug 2 months ago
@OfficeThug And just what are those 'many' rare metals you are referring to in regards to the manufacture of solar panels? The sun is unreliable? And by the way, there is more than 30X more energy hitting the earth every day from the Sun, than all the energy we consume.
xxskoolsuxx43 2 months ago
@xxskoolsuxx43 The sun don't shine during the evening, and it's radiation is scattered by clouds. In contrast, fossil and nuclear plants run almost 24/7 with very little down time.
Also do you have any idea what the surface area of the earth is? The amount of radiation hitting the same area covered by a typical plant of any kind is peanuts compared the the output of that plant. The more space and "stuff" you need to use to achieve the same result, the costlier it will be.
OfficeThug 2 months ago
@xxskoolsuxx43 As for metal useage, there's plenty and they're crucial in the making of semiconductors for p and n-doping the silicon, stuff like indium and tantalum, as well as stuff that helps make up charge collector materials like gallium.
And before you ask, no, we cannot store surplus energy with any sort of cost-efficiency. As a battery chemist I can attest to the fact that there is virtually nothing going on in the field of large-scale energy storage, it's very primitive
OfficeThug 2 months ago
Wind turbines are beautiful if used sporadically. What you're seeing here is a planning catastrophe.
Muckydoggy1 2 months ago
YOU are aware he put you in debt. but made himself a nice penny, grow up, sustainable energy is needed, keep pouring in gas and oil and coal into making electricity
LSFATV - We have enough oil, coal and natural gas to last for longer than you think
now that is a stupid comment, and selfish one, yeah maybe we do until we are all dead, what about our kids, their kids, even in 300 years, what if they burned up all our resources 300 years ago? selfish POS
hynzify 2 months ago
@hynzify actually, at current consumption, US reserves would last for only 3 years!
skateonthexpnk 2 months ago
@skateonthexpnk well...tell that to LSFATV,,, I was just trying prove a point, I don't understand all the negative comments about windmills around... maybe people have just ran out of thing to be negative about on youtube
hynzify 2 months ago
Wow look at all of you blaming the government.... do you not realize the people have the power? except when your a bunch of pussies, complaining on youtube, go to your government, write them letters, protest if needed, but no, you will complain on youtube, about what? WINDMILLS? ha...how much did nuclear plants cost when they came out, how much do they still cost to build, run, and maintain, and how much pollution and wasted resources? YOU are aware your country voted in bush and
hynzify 2 months ago
awesome! thats a crapload of coal and gas and shit thats not going to end up in our air! there should be wind power everywhere. its the best behind nuclear power
DiamondPilotDan 2 months ago
Ok...let me get this straight, environmentalists...conning a frog into championing your cause is more attractive than the wind farms your video shows? Scratches head quizzically.....
dshmechanic 2 months ago
Unfortunately you're retarded.
PutItAway101 2 months ago
your tax money paid for that by the way
331446757 3 months ago
Looks much better than an abandoned oilfield...
MrZimzim35 3 months ago
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This whole wind energy mess just further illustrates how the American people have been played by their elected officials who bought into the “global warming” hysteria that spawned the push for wind energy in the first place. And now that the renewable energy tax subsidies are gradually coming to an end in some places, the true financial and economic viability, or lack of wind energy, is on display for the world to see.
extere 3 months ago
"this was once a pristine natural desert"
translation: "This was once one of the most sterile and un-used tracts of land that nature is capable of producing"
at least they put it to use. the desert may be beautiful, but it's too goddamn hot to stay outside long enough to appreciate it, so what's the point?
ShuRugal1 3 months ago
OK. An ugly and VERY old wind farm from experimental days. You want to talk NOW and REAL? Well, one modern machine now is worth ten old machines and are much more spaced out (laws oblige them to be anyway). And with what would you replace wind turbines in, say, Spain, where they cover 17% of demand annually? ANYBODY?? If you want to go out of your way to produce the ugly side of power, go film a coal or gas fired station. Or Fukushima!!
malarbusto 3 months ago
agree with @robmccar88 ......at some point or another .....we have to accept that renewable energy can help our future generations to sustain....when we have dug into all that can be dug-ed into!
abhishek2255 3 months ago
so we can't burn coal even with the new pollution scrubbers, we can't frack the shale for natural gas, we can't build nukes. solar and wind are expensive but relatively clean. I'm so fed up with the whiners bitching about the windmills. the asthetics are in the eye of the beholder and most don't find windmills ugly. they are not very loud. birds? are you serious? something tells me they will adapt and learn to not fly into the huge spinny thing over there.
robmccar88 3 months ago
@robmccar88 Try living next to one asshole.
TheMadCrumpet 3 months ago
@TheMadCrumpet hey fuckstick, Americans currently use electricity. deal with it. why not piss and moan like a little bitch about living next to a coal fired power plant or a steel mill. How about tall city buildings or gravel pits or landfill mountains or refineries or any number of man made nuisances. some people will whine and complain no matter what you do. unfortunately they are the ones that get heard. more realistic and practical people need to speak up and drown out the nutjobs
robmccar88 3 months ago
@robmccar88 Hey asshole. I'm fine with coal power plants. At least those are actually efficient and are not totally propped up by my taxpayer dollars. This is totally subsidized by the government. The government is 15 trillion in debt and is bleeding 1.4 trillion annually. The billions the government throws at this shit only hurts future generations. Why don't you just open a plant that runs off the blood of dead babies, because those are who will suffer from all this wasteful spending.
TheMadCrumpet 3 months ago
@TheMadCrumpet yea you're absolutely right man. definetly better to keep producing energy in a way that will eventually finish. once the coal and oil runs out, then what do you propose? you really think it's a good idea to stay dependent on a resource that we know for a fact is going to finish sometime pretty soon? god, you sure do know how to plan for the future. besides the fact that the oil industry has some of the biggest tax breaks and subsidies than anything else, especially wind power
LSFATV 3 months ago
@LSFATV We have enough oil, coal and natural gas to last for longer than you think.Of course you're under the impression that the government has to switch us to a different form of energy because the free market can't. That is where our viewpoints differ.The free market is pushing against these newer forms of energy because they are not yet cost efficient and yet the government keeps on doing it. Imagine what would have happend if the government intervined in the computer industry during the 80s
TheMadCrumpet 3 months ago
@LSFATV Almost everything the government does causes prices to rise. Look at healthcare and College tuituions. The government took over the student loan industry, the prices of tuition go through the roof. The government takes over healthcare, the prices go through the roof. The government decides to get into the business of mortgages. Housing prices boom, and then collapse causing a depression.
Look at computers. The government stays away, prices go down and technology increases.
TheMadCrumpet 3 months ago
@LSFATV I have no doubt that we will have to use new forms of energy in the future. It's just I would prefer having the market ease us into in a cost effecitve manner. It's better than the government trying to force out a baby that is still developing in the whomb. Besides, the government has no money. All we are doing is destroying our future. What good is a million windmills and solar panels, if there is a total economic breakdown and people are rioting in the streets?
TheMadCrumpet 3 months ago
There may be no perfectly trouble free energy techology, but it amazes me how anyone can ignore the health benefits here both environmentally and to humans. Carbon-based fuels are behind widespread lung disease in cities, my son in point, who suffers potentially deadly asthma. It has been given an uncritical free pass for far too long. Wind power can be paired with energy storage infrastructures such as hydro dam "batteries" or underground pressure chambers to broaden the reliability.
Tube31425 3 months ago
all those metal trees just to power a soda machine
xzero0100 3 months ago
wind turbines look like giant flowers, just slowly blowing in the breeze.
jfarrington85 3 months ago
We have wind generators... i like them versus power plants
MackMooreInc 3 months ago
This is the single most expensive per KWhr energy market in America dispite masive taxpayer subsidies. It's getting worse as the turbines age and maintenance expenses mount along with down time. This is also one of the absolute best wind locations in the country. The wind blows almost all the time and it blows hard. Despite that fact the this facility wouldn't last a year without tax payer subsidies. If it can't be made to work here what the hell makes anyone think it will work elsewhere.
DamageSix 3 months ago
@DamageSix subsidies you say ? Better get aware of fossil fuel subsidies !
iwantabride101 3 months ago
I couldn't take kermit's singing!
Comments2010 3 months ago
Why would all you dumbfucks rather see a big huge coal factory pluming out 7 tons (Yes 7+ tons or more) of Green house gases a hour over a farm of quiet pleasant white wind turbines? Your logic is flawed.
14omega28ok 3 months ago
@14omega28ok Iknow, in my area duke energy wants to put 100+ turbines around the valley I live in. so many people are against it. and I always tell them;"would you rather see a massive nuclear or coal plant right here?"
farmsquidly 3 months ago
"This was once a pristine wilderness area" - yeah and now it has wind turbines.
So you drive your fuel guzzling car, you use plastic based video cameras, and you use coal burning based electricity to feed your fucking PC - so what are YOU complaining about arsehole.
callmeshane303 4 months ago 44
@callmeshane303 I'm not sure I understand your comeback. So then it's okay to ruin the wilderness? I think he makes a good point. It once was a pristine wilderness area.
jdpartist 2 months ago
@callmeshane303 Wind turbines of this design are useless. We have endless amounts of green energy in other forms, but these windfarms are about money making....not energy saving.
roseipk 1 month ago
@roseipk Of course they are about money making. Generating electricity and making a profit, thats what every source of energy tries to do. Why would anyone just pull a fortune out of their ass to build wind turbines when theres no promise of breaking even?
xygomorphic44 1 month ago
@callmeshane303 There is many more forms of energy....Hydro electric. Solar even thermal. wind turbines are useless, and there to fool us all.
roseipk 1 month ago
@roseipk
You have picked your nose till your skull hit empty.
callmeshane303 1 month ago
Dozens of ugly windmills placed into an ugly landscape, delivering at least energy. So. What's the problem?
ichmalealsobinich 4 months ago
fuck the birds
wattywaca 4 months ago
DIPPY HIPPYS
tonyzzzynot 4 months ago
can anybody tell me how many coal, gas, nuclear, oil fired power stations are going to close down due to wind turbines taking over ?
captainumbnuts2 4 months ago
@captainumbnuts2 not many. cuz people like you dont realize that wind turbine companies open jobs too.
ConnecticutLongboard 4 months ago
@captainumbnuts2 yes absolutely ZERO. none nodda zip. Between China and India they are firing up one new coal plant every eight days. Even if wind did make sense we need about 3-5 million wind mills which will get rid of zero nuke plants. Every windfarm will need a backup plant for when the wind doesn't blow so at best you'd get a reduction of use that the chinese and indians will more than compenstate for with their increased coal plants which doen't have our emission reduction technology.
DamageSix 3 months ago 2
The term windMILL is erroneous. A MILL grinds grain, etc.
These are just turbines. Ugly, white, landscape-wrecking turbines.
Antithropocentric 4 months ago
@Antithropocentric
They mill electrons - so it's a wind mill.
callmeshane303 1 month ago
@callmeshane303 Your reply says it all about your mentality.............
roseipk 1 month ago
@roseipk
LOL
Your failure to appreciate the dynamic constance of my technically and grammatically correct comment speaks volumes about you.
Can you send me some pictures of you masturbating - a home vid would be nice.
callmeshane303 1 month ago
100 people work for the oil companies and are fearful of new energies.
firechaser4 4 months ago
@firechaser4, one doesn't need to be "pro oil" to be anti industrial blight on the landscape. Why make it so mindlessly simplistic?
The breed of so-called environmentalists who push wind turbines will never make sense to me. I always thought of "the environment" as including the pristine visual (and audible) state of nature, which wind turbines are seriously messing with.
We need more birth control above all else - to stop the constantly growing demand for energy.
Antithropocentric 4 months ago
@Antithropocentric
Amen to that - overpopulation & liquid & gas pollution are the main issues, CO2 warming is a made up cover to industrialise vast portions of the countryside & other rural environments with turbines. Which in themselves are highly polluting to make & transport. Google: rare earth metals & turbines & china and see what happens.....
captainumbnuts2 4 months ago
@firechaser4
how are turbines produced and transported & constructed without the use of oil? Is it magic green fairy dust that powers the power stations supplying the vast smelting works required to produce the steel & aluminium these turbines consume. Is fairy dust powering the excavators taking the iron ore & other minerals out of the earth to produce the steel and aluminium? Does this fairy dust power the boats bringing the turbines over from China? does this dust produce the plastics etc
captainumbnuts2 4 months ago
Oh hell no I wish I worked for an Oil company. I just design weapons for a living.
DamageSix 3 months ago
I see a lot of stupid eco clowns posting how great and beautiful these behemoth looking turbo fans are. I'll bet you all voted for the great ONE didn't you? Any of you still a fan of him and his wise investment of Solyndra?
loveroflifemom 4 months ago
Wind farms give me the creeps. I live in Illinois and the beautiful green farmland is being taken over by these creepy wind farms. We love to go camping west of our town and on the way we pass through beautiful farm land, woods and then we come upon the wind farms with their stupid fan looking turbine fans. This weekend we had beautiful fall colors and then we came upon the stupid wind farms again. Stupid non U.S. made wind farms.
loveroflifemom 4 months ago
I'll take this over coal plants and nuclear plants any day. By using youtube and posting this video you are using electricity. Guess that never occurred to you hypocrit.
shadowym1 4 months ago
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Do you think the Japanese people are thinking that investing in wind and solar 25 years ago might not have been such a bad idea?
jdkooken 5 months ago
Please don't call them wind "farms." Farms are where things are grown. These monsters don't grow. They are Industrial Wind Turbine Complexes! And, if you read scientific studies about them, you will find that they are not very efficient. If you listen to the government or the taxpayer subsidized wind energy companies, they are the answer to all our energy problems.
MrPhotoDan 5 months ago
Who Sees That All Three Billboards Are The Same?
emcamev 5 months ago
In the United States, turbines kill 70,000 birds per year, compared to 500 million killed by domestic cats every year. If you’re really a bird lover, point your finger over at those ferocious felines. A real concern for birds is noted in the 2009 study in Nature that estimated that up to a quarter of all bird species could become extinct by 2054 due to global climate change, for which wind energy is one of the solutions.
satanas1984 5 months ago
Those blasted wires spoil the view of the turbines!!
ChuffChuffWoo 5 months ago
Stupid crappy song!
acnfanmanin 5 months ago
These don't look half as bad as those oil pumps that are all over your precious deserts.
carpetrug01 5 months ago
If it's cutting down on oil use, it's automatically wonderful.
transdrole 5 months ago 5
@transdrole - Sure, but the problem is, they aren't cutting down on anything.
NewWiseGuy 5 months ago
@NewWiseGuy
This guy is right think of all the Fossil fuels used in the process of making all the parts involved, shipping all those parts to there destination, assembling the parts on location i.e Cranes, The workers driving to and from the field everyday while they are being assembled, Lets not forget the fact that then you have to factor in the construction of new transformer stations, and in locations where they put in a wind farm like the one near me deforestation
Twitchy380Magnum 3 months ago
@Twitchy380Magnum
I'm no Eco Nut I drive a 3mpg Jeep, and heat my house with a 20 year old oil thirsty furnace. I'm just pointing out the obvious reality that windmills are a make work project for generations to come.
Twitchy380Magnum 3 months ago
@NewWiseGuy Then apparently you are not well informed. They are already cutting out millions of lbs of fossil fuel globally each year and will continue to grow. I do not think they look bad and would rather them be there then my grandchildren be born with automatic health problems because we are pumping so many pollutants into the air with no regard to health and environment!
ViolentJay435 3 months ago
@transdrole The only thing that is wonderful is the amount of money al gore is making off of you stupid pricks.
TheMadCrumpet 3 months ago 6
@TheMadCrumpet guess you voted for bush, look how much money he made off you!!! hahah.... nice debt...
hynzify 2 months ago
@hynzify If you think I voted for bush, you are misled. Obama is pretty much Bush's third term. I oppose all these wars, and I oppose the welfare. I don't just support any Republican who claims to be conservative... I only support Ron Paul.
TheMadCrumpet 2 months ago
@TheMadCrumpet
How? He did not get any money from me ...
Lammy2k 2 months ago
@TheMadCrumpet Why dont make a suggestion for Energy Problems, instead of siting behind computer and writing bullshit comments
123kkambiz 1 month ago
@123kkambiz I have. Let the free market decide what we use and stop subsidizing energies that we prefer... We are shutting down 25% of our coal plants by 2015 for no apparent reason other than this illusive climate change... which is nothing more than the 50km pole shifts we get each year. What would of happend if, when the first computer was created, we all went to that and dropped all type writers immediatly... We have to let the free market ease us into new energies when it is cost efficient.
TheMadCrumpet 1 month ago
@TheMadCrumpet How did he do that? These things was in use way before he was even born. They ACTUALLY DO make power and in some areas like umm "deserts" they are the only way to get power... Yea... fucking al fooled everyone didnt he.
vasthtml 1 month ago
@vasthtml He promotes all these green energy initatives while he holds stocks in them... He gains to profit from things like cap and trade and green energy. At the moment green energy is not cost efficient at all... We need to let the market ease us into these things, not the government. Imagine if in 1915 the government forced everyone to get rid of their horses and buggies and use cars because they are better... It doesn't work that way. Stop the subsidies and bail outs of these corporations..
TheMadCrumpet 1 month ago
@TheMadCrumpet Do you honestly think Al Gore is profiting more than the oil companies? Are you retarded?
darraghmcgrath18 1 month ago
@darraghmcgrath18 Nope, but he is definatley profiting. The government needs to stop subsidizing everything... Including oil.
TheMadCrumpet 1 month ago
If NASA would release the patents for the space solar panels we would never need to pay for power again...untill then wind power is the best we got...
SLINGSHOTandMOLOTOWS 6 months ago
This is necessary to save the planet. I live by this wind farm and you seem to fail to mention the impact of the freeway that cut migration routes to and from San Gorgonio and San Jacinto Mt. and the casino and strip mall's. You are truly a fool!! but I do like the song. P.S. i am almost finished with my wind turbine technician program. Tell me where you live so I can suggest a wind farm in your area.
bbbbb2013 6 months ago 8
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@bbbbb2013 The "planet" is safe. We are doing no harm with anything we do. We are a part of nature, as surely as the birds and the trees. What we do is very much a part of the evolution of the planet. Truth be told, unless we humans are able to continue to advance, the planet will certainly be completely destroyed. The evolving sun will eventually engulf the Earth. We are the only hope of saving any part of it before that happens.
NewWiseGuy 5 months ago
@NewWiseGuy, unless you're being sarcastic that's a complete lie. Total denial of man-made deforestation, extinctions, water shortages, toxic pesticides, radiation poisoning, air pollution, water pollution, global warming, etc?
If Man is all natural, what is NOT natural? The definition begs the question. Man has introduced all kinds of substances and physical impacts that nature itself couldn't have produced.
What is the point of this video, anyhow? It seems schizoid in light of your comment.
Antithropocentric 4 months ago
@NewWiseGuy Hey man you may have never gone to school and learned about this, but this world is just several switch flips away from nuclear winter. We can easily destroy the planet as much as we can improve it.
Nathan173AB 4 months ago
@NewWiseGuy Your fucking retarded
CephalopodsRock 4 months ago
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nothinglikeit22 3 months ago
@NewWiseGuy ROFLMFAO!!!!! Omg sorry dude but you made me laugh. Yes we ARE harming this planet, Humans are the reason I am feeling 2.0 - 4.9 Earthquakes every single day almost here in what used to be a Seismically quiet Oklahoma. The Sun thing? Lmfao you are NOT going to save this planet from the Sun engulfing us. Our only hope is to get the fuck off this planet, As its almost/pretty much dead if we keep on this rate. Please educate yourself before making yourself look like a complete dumbass.
14omega28ok 3 months ago
@bbbbb2013 lol i can tell you where I live but we have a mandate against that here in the blur ridge mtns. and besides tminate domain doesnt exist here either so cant be forced to do as asked by anyone
TheHighlander1320 4 months ago
The video states "this once was a pristine, natural, desert ecosytem". The great thing about wind farms is that they allow the ground they are built on to remain "natural". All the wee beasties and plants can get on with their lives quite happily. With nuclear and fossil fuel the ground is wholly built-on and remains contaminated for decades (centuries for nuclear) afterwards. The mining of raw materials they require only adds to the environmental devastation.
MeBungoPony 6 months ago 7
@MeBungoPony I guess you don't care about all the flying "wee beasties".
NewWiseGuy 5 months ago
@NewWiseGuy Studies have shown birds can easily see turbines and they simply avoid them. You will get the odd bird making an error in judgement but clean house windows are many times more dangerous to them than wind turbines. If you consider how birds can see tiny prey from relatively great heights, it's a bit insulting to claim they can't see big, muckle wind turbines :)
MeBungoPony 5 months ago 14
@MeBungoPony Unfortunately that just isn't true. There is a nice video showing a hawk, playing around the moving blades until he is struck. Bats are devastated by wind turbines. They seem to be attracted to them, and then they die of the sudden pressure change near the blades. they don't even need to be hit. Besides, whay have this hazzard when they don't replace fossil fuels anyhow?
NewWiseGuy 5 months ago
@NewWiseGuy I'm afraid we'll have to differ here. Turbines do kill birds but are among the lowest risks to them. As I said, they can see them. In the US, turbines reportedly kill around 70k birds/year; aircraft - 80k; cars - 57m; windows - 97m; cats - 500m. It is estimated fossil fuels kill 10x more birds than wind. People always cite the one video that shows a bird being killed by a turbine. Try doing a search for images of bird strikes on windows. You'll get thousands of examples.
MeBungoPony 5 months ago
@NewWiseGuy he wise guy unfortunatly you see HEPPOLT TURBINE INVISABLE?
aacowboy12 5 months ago
@MeBungoPony, you are lying about those "studies." Even the large turbines have very high blade-tip speeds. Turbines are not benign for birds, and they trash natural landscapes.
And no, I'm not "pro oil" just because I am honest about the downside of wind power. I'm not for putting solar farms all over the desert, either. Solar belongs on existing man-made structures. We can't keep widening our physical footprint for the sake of reducing our carbon footprint. Too much of a trade-off.
Antithropocentric 4 months ago
@Antithropocentric I can only be "lying" if I made up the stats I posted. As I only quoted the results of other peoples studies, your claim is unwarranted. I never claimed turbines were "benign" to birds. But for the most part, they see and avoid them. Hence only 70k bird deaths in the US from turbines compared to nearly 100m from windows. You appear to be a foil to "panzermacher", who claims wind energy is a conspiracy to reduce world popln, while you see it as a misguided way to maintain it.
MeBungoPony 4 months ago
@MeBungoPony, bird deaths from turbines are in ADDITION to, not in competition with, deaths from hitting windows, etc. "Only" 70k seems like an odd statement. Remember, they want to massively increase the numbers of turbines, so it's a growing issue. They also kill a lot of bats.
I don't see a death conspiracy, just a callous attitude toward priceless landscapes, and overstatements about actual power produced. There are many articles on those topics for those who care to read them.
Antithropocentric 4 months ago
@MeBungoPony
well it won't be this study you are referring to then: worldwideweb.inbo.be/content/homepage_en.asp
captainumbnuts2 4 months ago
@captainumbnuts2 Sorry, your link took me to a Dutch (I think) site with no indication of what I was supposed to be looking at. I don't speak Dutch :(
MeBungoPony 4 months ago
@MeBungoPony - Yet Bats are killed en MASSE because the ULFV kills them off... killing tens of thousands of bats out in Pennsylvania.
incendiumx 3 months ago
@NewWiseGuy , yeah lets save the birds, fuck the air quality, the birds are more important. You see my point here? Eventually you have to step in and decide what is more important, the lives of a few thousand beards per year, or the future of our planet. I pick our planet. You pick the birds. None of our decisions matter right now. However think to 200 years from now, what will the planet be like when our great great great grandchildren's turn comes?
TheTurbinator 4 months ago
@TheTurbinator
The planet will be full of people without any space whatsoever & wind turbines will be a long gone dangerous & expensive folly, but the landowners will have made a fortune out of it. As for the 'beards' they will have been eaten by the starving multiple billions.
captainumbnuts2 4 months ago
@MeBungoPony "The great thing about wind farms is that they allow the ground they are built on to remain "natural"
Except for the 1000 tons of cement used to anchor these 400 ft titanium monstrosities & you fail to mention that a Coal fueled Power station or a Nuclear Plant only requires 1000th of the land area needed to generate MORE electricity in 1 day than this wind farm will generate in a year.
panzermacher 5 months ago