@xAllenIversonx Nope, he's the worst character in the game, absolute bottom of the tier list. Rachel and Nu kind of broke the game. But the tiers don't really matter for those who don't play on such a high level.
@layarteBdnAevoL I dont know he seems pretty OP to me. way to simple and damaging. I mean theres a reason why everyone online uses him when they start getting their ass kicked by someone lol
@xAllenIversonx Like I said, at a lower level it doesn't really matter all that much =-P. His damage will cause alot of problems early on, I'd imagine when you first start if you chose Nu and your buddy uses Tager, Tager will win. But when you get down to it, you can really zone him out / use him as a combo sandbag. There's a video around here of a high end Tager vs a high end Nu, the entire match is Tager locked at the edge of the screen, unable do to anything, except the one round he wins.
I believe he did everything up to the tager buster in about 8 seconds. This dude beat someone in 8 seconds? clearly he shouldn't be allowed to use tager. lol
@platefork naa there it is almost so for everyone example tager vs hmm V-12 i think the name is of the char just dont go near tager and he can hardly touch you if yuou know how to play :P but i understand u he got insane dmg :P if you have seen that collectors edition disc were they show basics on the chars tager takes 100% hp with one throw when the opponents health bar says danger :) oo and he can juggle 100% hp :P
you buffer 720 from any move, even JC'able moves. just hit 8 during start up frames, and buffer away, hitting 8 again the second time, and press C before you jump. I dont play tager, but if I can 720 buffer from a 6A, then.... well....... lol
@dequann A jump is the standard easy mode, just do a super jump/normal jump towards them, doing the 720 in the air and slamming C on the landing. Better ones to practice are off backdashes, or a checky small jump back, makes me people think you messed up off a Spark, and they tend to tech neutral. You can punish this hubris with REAL SOVIET DAMAGE. Another awesome buffer is the 720 itself. If you have 100%, use one 720 as a whiff to lure for another. Tends to cause rage :3
CHRIST!!!! Do you know how fast you have to be to pull off a practically unbuffered 720 like at 1:31? Brings me a tear of pride as a Tager player......and a tear of sadness as a Noel player.
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hopefully that distortion drive gets nerfed along with his normal moves buffs just to even things out, else it's going to be another monster character dominating the SBO.
wow, tager is breaking the rules of sciene!! FINISH HIM is suppose to be when the opponent is near 10%, not freaking 50 % of health!!!! REAL SOVIENT DAMAGE anyone?
Mike Z being a Tager god aside I watched the first round and I just thought, wow the noel player messed up once, only once the entire round after getting tager down to about 25%, and then that happens. I realize this is actually one of those battles where Noel actually has a big advantage according to some tier lists, but holy crap!
The problem with characters like Noel and V-13 is that they're too easy to learn. So when an average gamer (not that I'm saying AlphaKami is average by any stretch of the imagination, just generalizing) goes up against someone who knows how to play characters like Hakumen, Tager, Bang etc. they'll lose, because everyone knows what Nu and noel are capable of, and can counter easily. Now a good gamer can almost always win with Nu, but we're talking Mike Z level good. Most people online can't.
MIke z plays Tager, that is it, not Hakumen, not Bang or any other low tier or high tier. Mike z is Tager. And Noel is more complicated then just scrubby ass 2D spam. You have to learn how to safely apply pressure, learn your Mix-up options and how to Land cancel J. D. Nu Is easy once you learn how to zone with her, but it takes a few plays to get it down.
I know that Mike only plays Tager. I was speaking in generalizations. I'm talking mostly about average gamers. Noel is more complicated to use than nu, and has much more non-boring mathces. That was more of a vent from seeing so many 'middle, overhead, low' attempted combo spam (from nu), and so many "hold forward and mash D +C" from noel. I apologize if I came across as arrogant or condescending to noel players, as I know they aren't all bad. Nu is still boring though, even if she is top tier.
I dislike how nu's combos are like... DD, down DD, Forward DD, Up DD, Up DD, etc. I mean I get the idea of generally having some level of skill for zoning, but it's just kind of ridiculous. Getting nerfed in the patch though I hear... Maybe something fun will happen?
I know those moves are her gimic in the game but the zoning is way too overpowered I hope they nerf her to be balanced and arakune needs to get rid of his stupid wall trap infinite
Fuck Noel in the fucking ass. I'm not too much of a Tager player (I play him sometimes in friendly casuals), but I definitely have respect for the serious Tager players. :)
I love how at 0:35 Noel has full health, Tager in the corner and generally upper hand, and at 0:48, 13 seconds later, Noel is dead.
futsk01 2 months ago
0:55 Git crushed!!
kikoukira 4 months ago
That, my friends, is a tick distortion finish.
Speedygi81 6 months ago
MikeZ is one of the main reasons I even picked up this game.
I was watching a Hisoutensoku vid with the Soviet Meme and and that's where it started for me.
IronKingLeo 8 months ago
MikeZ's Yomi>=9000
awesomeuno1 11 months ago
Broccoli Tager eats his veggies; Noel clearly does not and instead eats REAL SOVIET DAMAGE.
kusanagifan101 1 year ago 6
0:44 one of the most homogenous traps ever xD.
i think Mike_Z feels more comfortable with BB's TG than GG's PO. TG seems to be definetly more variable ;]
shzindenPL 1 year ago
Mike Z will eat your children and bite your ear off
Urmean15 1 year ago
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Tager sort of ruins this game doesnt he? Way to OP
xAllenIversonx 1 year ago
@xAllenIversonx Nope, he's the worst character in the game, absolute bottom of the tier list. Rachel and Nu kind of broke the game. But the tiers don't really matter for those who don't play on such a high level.
layarteBdnAevoL 1 year ago
@layarteBdnAevoL I dont know he seems pretty OP to me. way to simple and damaging. I mean theres a reason why everyone online uses him when they start getting their ass kicked by someone lol
xAllenIversonx 1 year ago
@xAllenIversonx Like I said, at a lower level it doesn't really matter all that much =-P. His damage will cause alot of problems early on, I'd imagine when you first start if you chose Nu and your buddy uses Tager, Tager will win. But when you get down to it, you can really zone him out / use him as a combo sandbag. There's a video around here of a high end Tager vs a high end Nu, the entire match is Tager locked at the edge of the screen, unable do to anything, except the one round he wins.
layarteBdnAevoL 1 year ago
Soviet Damage!
KazutoNarue 1 year ago
he told Noel to go make him a sandwich
Dashthefox 1 year ago
@Dashthefox She said no. This is what happen when you say no to Tager.
Jinshintaku 1 year ago
This is literally how every match between Tager & Noel are when me & my friend play
The minute he slips up with the combos he's done
SugacaneNinja 1 year ago
I believe he did everything up to the tager buster in about 8 seconds. This dude beat someone in 8 seconds? clearly he shouldn't be allowed to use tager. lol
ChaosBlade144 1 year ago
THE JOLLY GREEN GIANT?
IkariTenryo 1 year ago
Tager is futuristic TF2 Heavy.
AKSsasori 1 year ago
:39 to :45, WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT
TheFleeingPhoenix 1 year ago
@TheFleeingPhoenix That was real Soviet damage.
GmelMkII 1 year ago
Dude cause of MikeZ i am a Tager player and I hope one day i can pull off mad combos like him
Overlordkezia 1 year ago
This is why Tager should be banned xD!
baez550 1 year ago
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@baez550 Oh, did you mean v-13 or Nu?
PanicFan 1 year ago
B.R.O.K.E.N.! Ban Robots or Overpowered Killing Engines Now!
kankerturk123 1 year ago
@kankerturk123 Oh, did you mean v-13 or Nu?
PanicFan 1 year ago
1 combo kill.
GOD I LOVE MIKE Z
Xajora 1 year ago
That was a fucking awesome comeback.
elderdruid44 1 year ago
0:37
ONE FREAKING MISTAKE by the Noel Player cost the round
Its weird if u think about it
platefork 1 year ago 2
@platefork naa there it is almost so for everyone example tager vs hmm V-12 i think the name is of the char just dont go near tager and he can hardly touch you if yuou know how to play :P but i understand u he got insane dmg :P if you have seen that collectors edition disc were they show basics on the chars tager takes 100% hp with one throw when the opponents health bar says danger :) oo and he can juggle 100% hp :P
Renas88 1 year ago
@platefork
2 mistakes, before the genesic emrald tager busters noel could have barrier bursted.
Most people dont know to do that though, so your pretty much right.
Xajora 1 year ago
@Xajora
U cant burst as soon the background becomes Blue or while recovering
platefork 1 year ago
1:29 ...what the FUCK did Mike_Z just buffer the 720C out of 5B? I don't know what to believe about anything anymore.
towelie893 1 year ago 3
thats actually pretty easy
a very good 720setup is j.B 5A 5B 720
careful to not cancel the 5B tho, othewise it can be throw rejected
platefork 1 year ago
It's funny that mike z got knocked out of this tournament by another tager player.
OscarMaris 2 years ago
anyone know what are great moves to buffer for the 720
dequann 2 years ago
you buffer 720 from any move, even JC'able moves. just hit 8 during start up frames, and buffer away, hitting 8 again the second time, and press C before you jump. I dont play tager, but if I can 720 buffer from a 6A, then.... well....... lol
Anon4907 2 years ago
thanks
dequann 2 years ago
@dequann A jump is the standard easy mode, just do a super jump/normal jump towards them, doing the 720 in the air and slamming C on the landing. Better ones to practice are off backdashes, or a checky small jump back, makes me people think you messed up off a Spark, and they tend to tech neutral. You can punish this hubris with REAL SOVIET DAMAGE. Another awesome buffer is the 720 itself. If you have 100%, use one 720 as a whiff to lure for another. Tends to cause rage :3
VictimOfAnger 1 year ago
I've fell for that trap a few times myself. this isn't a hard matchup for Noel so long as you know when to stop rushing down and watch for the setups
silverdoggg 2 years ago
why was the 2nd round sped up?
AlphaT0kairu 2 years ago
i can never get that first 720 throw setup to work, it always just grabs them i can never get them to fall underneath as seen here, any tips?
IISADHD 2 years ago
You have to learn how long to hold Atomic colliderm It takes some timing.
teepofoulu 2 years ago
you dont hold it out you just input atomic collider and start on your 720 it stays out just long enough to pull them back towards the ground
Sturm64 2 years ago
Noel-Tager matchup is pretty bad. Noel can crackle as much as she want, once Tager catches her, it's over.
Zanza14 2 years ago
It's 5.5 in Noel's Favor This is a really balanced match-up If you want to see bad Find a carl vs Tager. 8-2
teepofoulu 2 years ago
It's amazing how Tager has the potentiel to combo kill his opponent in 1 combo!!
TheAlienmonkey 2 years ago
2 720 was not combo'd there. It was a tech trap
teepofoulu 2 years ago
@teepofoulu still all in one preassure string :D must admit i am not too much into the technical sides of fighting games but i love them anyways :D
TheAlienmonkey 2 years ago
True but it is Tech Trap If the other player walkedaway basically the 720 wouldn't of hit. They recovered at a bad time.
teepofoulu 2 years ago
MIKKEEEE ZZZZZZ!!! That 1st combo was sooo nasty lol
StaticShock13 2 years ago
that first combo that mike z pulled off was a real soviet combo
TVBOY3 2 years ago 7
Yeah, but the best part about it was the tech trap to reset Noel with the Atomic Collider into 720
DJRedrumofEPG 2 years ago
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mrq8 2 years ago
CHRIST!!!! Do you know how fast you have to be to pull off a practically unbuffered 720 like at 1:31? Brings me a tear of pride as a Tager player......and a tear of sadness as a Noel player.
Negajoe 2 years ago
u can buffer during the b. its not that hard, in fact i normally do it too early and the opponent has a chance to tech it.
IISADHD 2 years ago 2
@Negajoe It's easy to buffer during B. It's harder to buffer in hit/blockstun, actually.
Montegrano 2 years ago
WTF happened on 0:43? he cancelled his atomic collider to aN emerald buster?
XiahouYuan111 2 years ago
No, he used AC to pull Noel back in and to buffer the 720. No RCing there but it is somewhat difficult to pull off.
Montegrano 2 years ago
REAL SOVIET DAMAGE
zeonicgeneral 2 years ago 39
why is everypne crying about a tager buff? he's the worst character in the game
thecrayola8 2 years ago
Because they suck against a Tager who excells at guessing games. Though genesic buster IS a tad too damaging.
NoritadaEgami 2 years ago
yes he is in calamity triger but what do you think of him in continum shift
ikarugalover674 2 years ago
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hopefully that distortion drive gets nerfed along with his normal moves buffs just to even things out, else it's going to be another monster character dominating the SBO.
azraelsohma 2 years ago
Noel died in under 15 hits I would like to see how Mike handles Tager in BB:CS
Xninja2456 2 years ago
That Noel is well-played n decent but oh my, she got RAPED !!! Mike Z is a god
1stFeeder 2 years ago
and tagers getting buffs in the expansion...
gateofdestiny 2 years ago
It's legitimate. All you ever see are the "OH MY GOD TAGER ONE COMBO" videos, you should watch some of the "Tager V Ara/Carl" videos. Lol.
pwnzjoo1 2 years ago 2
thank god she got a nerf? she was the epitome of average buddy, unlike the top tiers she didnt rly need 1 -_-'
on the contrary her damage is on the low end and she requires complex timing juggles to deal good damage.
guildwarsdabest 2 years ago 5
LOL plasma to buffer in 720
jesus christ, mike. jesus christ.
ecksyz 2 years ago
wow, tager is breaking the rules of sciene!! FINISH HIM is suppose to be when the opponent is near 10%, not freaking 50 % of health!!!! REAL SOVIENT DAMAGE anyone?
xxkingdededexx 2 years ago 9
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xxkingdededexx 2 years ago
wtf MikeZ, just wtf.
skyryuu 2 years ago
Mike Z is my hero.
Shippoiship 2 years ago
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And this video sums up why I hate Tager.... lol.
Akadou 2 years ago
That was the most magnificent tech trap I have ever seen. I'm genuinely afraid of Tager now.
rickjamesia 2 years ago 2
mike z's tager has crazy soviet strength
IceDrake1337 2 years ago 4
i bet that noel was like 'wtf, i nearly had him?!!!!!'. the minute mike landed that grab, i knew it was all over, lol.
cookiehours 2 years ago
Did Mike just buffer a 720 by dragging Alpha down with atomic collider?
Mike_Z you magnificent bastard.
deafinmyrighteye 2 years ago 3
i jizzed my pants when i saw that
soulfire64 2 years ago
IRONFISTO.
UnusuallyLargeCrab 2 years ago 5
I love how after MikeZ destroys Noel with that 720, he violates her lol.
A2ZOMG 2 years ago 2
Noel first round must have been like O_o;; WDF JUST HAPPENED!?!?!
Silencer565 2 years ago 2
Mike Z being a Tager god aside I watched the first round and I just thought, wow the noel player messed up once, only once the entire round after getting tager down to about 25%, and then that happens. I realize this is actually one of those battles where Noel actually has a big advantage according to some tier lists, but holy crap!
DivingLancer 2 years ago
Buffering 720 out of 5B is actually preferred since that move isn't jump-cancellable, and is also done with 2B.
bestialrager 2 years ago
...that first round...holy shit. o-o
cookiehours 2 years ago
mike z is a MONSTA. HIDE YO CHILDREN
wolfumz 2 years ago 28
@wolfumz actually... that noel user is jus trash
coldfire320 11 months ago
dats how tager should be played
levinsnakes 2 years ago
He buffered 720 out of 5B?!??!??!?!
dragoslove 2 years ago
I'm convinced Mike Z can buffer that 720 out of anything. He's too good.
BloodyPuppy 2 years ago 4
The day when Mike Z does an unbuffered 720 while standing is the day that the world ends.
Kodama867 2 years ago 6
He can already do that. Check the Tager dustloop forums for more details.
Brotrr 2 years ago
JESUS...That Tager of his is crazy..
Dragonslayer9 2 years ago
love the stomp at the end
grindcoreman90 2 years ago 3
Aw Tager broke Noel's grab but Noel didn't break Tager's grab :( Hawt Sexeh Fight tho ;)
Thienthan 2 years ago
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Tager is so overpower
renidal 2 years ago
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tager is the worst character in the game by far
springbeak 2 years ago
wow, i can't believe i got -7 for this. Tager is fucking awesome and my main. But he's at the bottom of the tier list for a reason.
springbeak 2 years ago
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ikarugalover674 2 years ago
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Noel is sooooo noobishly easy to use. Nothing a lil' 720 can't fix though
Spuddud 2 years ago
The problem with characters like Noel and V-13 is that they're too easy to learn. So when an average gamer (not that I'm saying AlphaKami is average by any stretch of the imagination, just generalizing) goes up against someone who knows how to play characters like Hakumen, Tager, Bang etc. they'll lose, because everyone knows what Nu and noel are capable of, and can counter easily. Now a good gamer can almost always win with Nu, but we're talking Mike Z level good. Most people online can't.
Shottty101 2 years ago
MIke z plays Tager, that is it, not Hakumen, not Bang or any other low tier or high tier. Mike z is Tager. And Noel is more complicated then just scrubby ass 2D spam. You have to learn how to safely apply pressure, learn your Mix-up options and how to Land cancel J. D. Nu Is easy once you learn how to zone with her, but it takes a few plays to get it down.
ZhangHe2369 2 years ago 3
I know that Mike only plays Tager. I was speaking in generalizations. I'm talking mostly about average gamers. Noel is more complicated to use than nu, and has much more non-boring mathces. That was more of a vent from seeing so many 'middle, overhead, low' attempted combo spam (from nu), and so many "hold forward and mash D +C" from noel. I apologize if I came across as arrogant or condescending to noel players, as I know they aren't all bad. Nu is still boring though, even if she is top tier.
Shottty101 2 years ago
apology accepted, with that you get a thumps up!
ZhangHe2369 2 years ago
I usually try to keep things civil. I have the bad habit of having spasms of stupidity at times though :P
Shottty101 2 years ago
yeah guilty gear xx2ac top tiers are exciting but nu is just uhhhhhhhh
ikarugalover674 2 years ago
I dislike how nu's combos are like... DD, down DD, Forward DD, Up DD, Up DD, etc. I mean I get the idea of generally having some level of skill for zoning, but it's just kind of ridiculous. Getting nerfed in the patch though I hear... Maybe something fun will happen?
Shottty101 2 years ago
I know those moves are her gimic in the game but the zoning is way too overpowered I hope they nerf her to be balanced and arakune needs to get rid of his stupid wall trap infinite
ikarugalover674 2 years ago
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Thank god shes getting a nerf in blazblue continum shift. THE PEOPLE ARE DANCING IN THE STREETS HALALUYA!!!
ikarugalover674 2 years ago
I thought she wasn't even in continuum shift >.>;;
Shottty101 2 years ago
oh wait sorry thats a different character just simular to nu but no more gayness
ikarugalover674 2 years ago
"Similar to Nu."
Oh boy.
TasaKun 2 years ago
lol she isnt even top tier
kingj521 2 years ago
thank lord she not anymorte but im worried about the new tager. looking at his buffed up moves
ikarugalover674 2 years ago
she was never top tier
kingj521 2 years ago
it's obvious the people that rated his comment as negative are the faggots that play nu, god damn nu fags... YAY NERFS LMAO.
Ninja7ime 2 years ago
Wow. Mike Z is worse than the fucking plague. I swear he touches you and you end up dead.
I may have to call shennanigans on this Tager...
TheBIackstar 2 years ago 3
Mike Z knows how to play against noel, he perfected the Noel that eventually won the EVO tourney.
Besides, he's not even high tier and the entire point of a grappler is the HOLY FUCK 75% DAMAGE COMBO
vgnerd404d 2 years ago
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That was 1 game in an exhibition. Heart nana got him back three games in a row... Hearnana > Z but i still give Z props on being the best tager ever.
ZhangHe2369 2 years ago
Fuck Noel in the fucking ass. I'm not too much of a Tager player (I play him sometimes in friendly casuals), but I definitely have respect for the serious Tager players. :)
DarkFox6400 2 years ago
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This video had about 300 views until I posted it in the Tager thread on SRK.
LeftyHangsLower 2 years ago
That, my friends, is real soviet damage.
CurlehMustash 2 years ago 17
holy that 720 setup was fucking sweet.
Squishy3 2 years ago
Settle down rookie.
Thomahawk08 2 years ago
Most beautiful green Tager I have ever seen.
WellnessMan 2 years ago 2
ill blue your blaz
boothesquirrel 2 years ago
MIKE ZEEEEEEE
FCSugaFree 2 years ago 2
This is the reason I play Tager.
aakurtz 2 years ago 5
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FUCK TAGER
jimbobhotdog 2 years ago
you mean FUCK YEAH TAGER!!
AntiPeach 2 years ago 17
fucking owned! poor noel player putting in some work and all for not against the frankenstein tager!
gidian 2 years ago 2
One combo, one tech trap and it's GG.
LeftyHangsLower 2 years ago 3
REAL SOVIET DAMAGE!
Ryyudo 2 years ago 13