Gregory Chaitin Lecture Lisbon University 2004 Pt 8

[stargen5]

"why isn't there any air in this room..." he is gasping....

[f00kumofo123]

IMHO, this theory is based on inherently wrong assumptions that numbers are universal concept. Numbers are human invention. To correctly model this universe, you will need to include intelligent entity into that model that will invent their concept of calculation and eventually build an iteration of their model of universe and so on.

This riddle is essentially an infinite loop theory that proves humans cannot build such a model.

[Entertainmentwf]

I'm guessing you've never heard of recursion theory... You don't need no intelligent entity to do anything. Good example: Genetic algorithms which can generate more and more

'complicated' solutions and computations from simpler ones..

Of course numbers are a convention but, you got to remember computation is the best direction we have... Of course that is your opinion but, it really kind of defeats the purpose since you are supposing something Godel, Turing, and even Chaitin showed wrong.

[f00kumofo123]

I do not want to hear name calling. Give me your understanding. For now I assume the math is a substitute for religion. Both designed to model, not explain.

[f00kumofo123]

Precision increases with time pass. Isn't it true to state that universe lives up to match human demands at any time. So if tomorrows precision demand is let's say 1000000 decimal places, can it be that the hypercomputer that runs universe is scaled to match that demand?

[KatAngelaRebel]

what a funny theory. Quite interesting to watch him. But he's too atomistic, Democrit. Of course quantum mechanics is right and the Universe is not deterministic.

[Entertainmentwf]

I really don't think you understand the concepts Chaitin is presenting...