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  • doesn't it take more energy to charge batteries though? so that 50% is out the window.

  • damn my car is out of batteries....its ok i have a laptop

  • ima just go with gas more fun

  • lithium ion batteries can over heat and explode...sell them to the terrorists and they got car bombs with style

  • all you morons talking about 'but we have to generate that energy and produce CO2 anyway' :

    - it is way more efficient done in one place, not independently in each of our engines, spending most of their time on IDLE in traffic

    - there are lots of other ways to generate electricity than fossil fuel burning

    - electric cars have other default efficiencies such as regenerative brakes..

    and so on. there is no argument against it... electric is better.

  • Green sucks cap & trade is scam Batteris are bad Toxic waste--- produce-- 57 Chev

  • Yeah, but what's up with the additional CO2 which is produced by making electric energy for the battery? It seems no one gets it: We're polluting the air, no matter what we do.

  • How about solar power generators... There is no substitute like that for gas

  • Sandrine Ceurstemont is a FUCKING BITCH.

  • nice idea, nice car, but it's about the sund, too! a good car HAS to make noise, it's part of it's character!

  • they're just making sure we're going from one "plug in" to another. same old BS and people will always be willing to buy it by the time a "viable" option is available

  • By the mean time they can rape South America from it's natural resources...just check how they are destabilizing Bolivia which has the worlds largest lithium reserve.Even if they are rich in natural resources...they will stay poor and never know they could profit at least from it.People will buy but they will never ask themselves how was it made,by who and from where the raw materials came.I'm not against technology don't get me wrong...but over consuming has it's problems.

  • tesla kicks ass i don't wanta blow up with hygrogen

  • Lol , you drive a vehicle with gasoline just sloshing arround in a flimsy metal can under the floor right now. Hydrogen isn't much worse.

  • The Tesla is unreliable, as found on Top Gear. And takes 14 hours to 'refuel'. Making long trips impossible. However, the Honda Clarity - which Top Gear loved - is slower, but has true potential.

  • yeah but how many miles per dollar do they get?

  • Tesla has an 135 MPG equivalent rating, that is calculated from price of electricity used compared to price of gas. The max range on EPA cycle is 244 miles. So, a full charge is equivalent to 244/135=1.8 gallons of gas. Current US gas price is $1.659. So, to charge Tesla you'd spend just $3.06! That's 80 miles per single dollar!

  • or you couldve just done 135/1.66

  • oh and thats not calculated based on PRICE of electricity, mpgge is calculated based on the same ENERGY as a gallon of gas.

    the "miles per dollar" depends how much gas costs and how much electricity costs

  • what a bitch wich is presenting in this video!

  • watch "who killed electric cars"

    they had electric cars long time ago in usa, but all those gas companies brought it down

  • Silent cars, just what the rapist, burglar and getaway driver need.

  • same with secret agents and cops ;)

  • HAHA GREAT !@!!! thos battery fail ....

  • Where did this woman learn to speak? No gaps, timing, weighing, emphasis or any of the things that help make English understandable! {:o|

  • uh...at 1:14 as the red one passes by the camera, I think I see a gas cap...anyone else?

  • Hm, that could be a power outlet..

  • Yeahhh i saw it too, after a few good looks

  • Charge port

  • It's not a "gas cap"- it is a charging port located where gas cap usually is for convenience.

  • nice

  • Only thing I dislike about silent cars is... I can't hear them!! I bike a good bit, so when a car starts moving with out warning it makes me jump. (in parking lots and etc)

  • i hear they might just add a speaker that makes the sound of a gas engine. I get spooked already by they hybrids. So I think something should be added easily to make a bit more sound, specially for the blind.

  • Great, those are the cars that I want, expect the high price.

  • holy crap

    My phone has a 450 kg battery in it? Damn I'm strong.

  • where will the batteries go when they arent good anymore?

  • Basically he price of the car covers the recycling of the battery so It wont harm the environment and the recycled materials will be used for new batteries.

  • Is'nt it dangerous if the car gets to silent?

  • What's so dangerous about that? Sure the engine noise might help other drivers know where you are, but only if you're so close that seeing you would be easy too. And if your car is quiet it would help you hear important things going on outside of your car like police sirens and such. Then again, it could be dangerous if your wife is used to escorting her secret lover out the back door when she hears your car pull up...

  • I did'nt mean for other cars. Just think of a 12 year old wobbling around on bicicle down a country road and all of a sudden a car swoshes by without you even hearing it coming. What would happen if she just lost balance for a secon and went just a meter into the road, easygoing and unalert as she is.

    One of the most important senses in traffic for pedestriants just went useless.

  • wtf.. the battery alone costst 40.000 dollars? geez...

  • really? this isn't "new"....... these news reports are so old.

  • the batterys on those cars cost a fortune

  • hydrogen fuel cells are bs

  • cars rocks are fun and give a scene of freedom but were are cars that work whit compress air, instead of simplify we are complicated the situation whit bigger longer cars that works to complicated i like more Europeans small and efficient cars

  • CO2 is not driving global warming...

    What is driving the CO2 fear campaign?

  • Why not power these cars with a Perendev magnetic motor that needs no batteries or fuel.

  • or why not just make all roads slope downwards so we can roll down them, that would also need no batteries or fuel.

  • haha lol... matieman77... we can go down the slopes easily without fuel.. but how are we supposed to get back home? ... lol we need fuel to drive back up the slope!

  • thats why you make ALL of the roads slope down you would never have to go up!

    but this would mean that we wouldn't have to pay any money for fuel and the government dosent want that

    yea, thats how stupid people sound when they talk about over unity devices that don't work

  • matieman77

    thats exactly my point... if we make ALL of the roads slope downwards... how are we supposed to drive back up those roads? like.... without fuel... ??!!?

    anyways happy thinking

    take care

    god bless

  • VOLT is only coming in 2010, because Chevy wants to make sure that gas prices don't fall by then.

  • If all these technologies are already invented, why are there such few electrical cars, if any? Any why would they make the VOLT only in 2010, cant they make it sooner?

  • Imagine how much money and power revolving around oil would be lost if these cars were put into mass production.

  • yea, but it will save oil and reduce global warming in the long run

  • Yes it will Torn. But think about it. SAy if you own an oil company and some people create an efficient electric car. That would be a huge threat to your oil business. So the logical thing to do would be to buy out those people. Then you can say you are doing research on electric cars for the future but in reality you are just holding technology back so you can make as much money as possible from oil.

  • looks good for an electric car

  • Hydrogen is a energy medium. It's mad ineffecient, and you burn shitte to make it. It's a pipe dream.

    In the short term, it's PEVs, but in the long term, there are no cars.

  • @aquamammal bitching about it not working will not make it any better.

  • Instead of a gas hybrid why not a Hydrogen hybrid even better.

  • Because the car isn't efficient enough to run on both Hydrogen and Electricity.

    The US should just drill oil on our soil and the price of oil will go down dramatically. Also, Global Warming is just a load of shit. 30-40 years ago they were screaming that there was going to be an ice age...

  • "The US should just drill oil on our soil and the price of oil will go down dramatically"

    False:

    "Global Warming is just a load of shit. 30-40 years ago they were screaming that there was going to be an ice age..."

    Mis information: What your talking of is Global dimming. The global Wormiest where there then too. Most believed in global warming would happen. But a few believed in global dimming. But they decided to wait for more data. and today the jury is in. GW

  • Awesome!

  • Are lithium ion batteries recyclable?

  • Yep-- same as notebook and mobile batteries.

  • Hydrogen is great but the future is a Methane economy!

    The proposed answer to our energy needs by the Nobel price winner of 2005

  • the GM Volt looks awfully SAAB'ish viewed from the front!

  • I'd love to own one of those cars, just can't really afford one at the moment. But it is good to see some more progress in electric cars.

  • Hydrogen is a pipe dream.

    Consumers, ask yourselves this. Why is it that cars are designed to go speeds that they can never legally be allowed to go? WTF is this? What does it matter the volt can go fast when if you push it to the metal, you should go to jail?

    And fuck cars anyways, they will never be the long term solution.

    XVX for life, R.A.S.H. 'til death.

  • I suppose you have never heard of track days or the Autobahn.

  • lol , like u are the smart guy, and the rest of the world isnt...lol dude

  • What do you propose? Boats?

  • Cities that are designed with the pedestrian, and not the internal combustion engine in mind. Public/last km transit and mixed use private/public space. It's not that hard to understand that the current way cities are set up are death machines.

    XVX for life, R.A.S.H. 'til death.

    Boats... will be a solution to travelling across oceans very soon because they are effecient and less polluting. Trains will be the main way we get around on land.

    Get used to it.

    Fuck cars (and roads)

  • I hate cars too. They've completely taken over towns and cities. Before they became so widespread, streets were peaceful, safe and pleasant. I remember them with nostalgia.

    The cars featured here go some way towards decreasing noise, but then drivers won't be satisfied if they can't pester and fester the streets with their car stereos at top volume.

  • Before the automobile streets were filled with disease ridden horse manure from all the horse drawn carts, donkeys,...

  • "...streets were filled with disease ridden horse manure..."

    That was before the bicycle, underground trains and motorised public transport were invented. Just get rid of private cars and streets and roads will regain a great chunk of their previous peace, with no loss of efficiency.

    My hope that this will ever happen? Nil. I'm just ranting.

  • Bicycles were around since the 1800s. That's a 100+ year period where horses and such were still used. Bicycles did not solve transportation/health issues back than and I doubt it will today.

    I'm sorry but you are going to have to expand on 'with no loss of efficiency'. You can't just say it with legitimacy and expect it to stick, at least not with me.

  • "That's a 100+ year period where horses and such were still used."

    I should've said, "before comfortable bicycles became widely available".

    "with no loss of efficiency"

    I just think that, with a good network of motorised public transport and supplies, there would be no need for the proliferation of private cars. But monkeys will never let go: creature comforts always become inalienable rights.

  • The automobile replaced horses and such not comfy bicycles.

    What expertise do you have that qualifies your opinion? Why do you denigrate monkeys? Why do you apply rights into this?

  • "What expertise do you have &c ?"

    Having lived through a period when cars were not pervasive and people moved around very well without them, thank you.

    "Why do you denigrate monkeys?"

    That's not denigrating. It's describing.

    "Why do you apply rights into this?"

    Any conceivable policy that would prevent members of the public from freely owning and using cars would be brought down on the argument of people's "right" to property and freedom. But private cars are no more than a comfort.

  • If I witness a brain surgery does that give me the expertise to than conduct a surgery myself?

    When have you witnessed a monkey driving an automobile to be able to describe the sight?

    So cars are not property? When did we start using the term comfort in relation to issues surrounding rights?

  • "If I witness a brain surgery &c ?"

    I KNOW streets were much pleasanter, peacefuler and safer back then with 5% of the cars there are today. I'm sorry for people who don't know that.

    humans=monkey

    All rights are comforts in a way. Give a beggar a penny every day and he'll end up taking it for granted. One day you don't give it to him, and he'll throw a brick at you. After he takes it for granted, he'll begin to see it as his inaliable right.

    And that's because he's a monkey.

  • Well I now know how to cut open someone's skull, do I than have the expertise necessary to make an informed opinion/judgement/...? Did you witness all the streets?

    Why do you denigrate monkeys again?

    "...One day you don't give it to him, and he'll throw a brick at you..." How can he throw what he was not given?

    Do you understand the underlying concept of rights?

  • There are different levels of knowledge. Do you need any expertise to know, for instance, that you're getting older? Do you need to do clinical tests to ascertain that? Or to know that a hard place is less comfortable than a soft one? Do you need to do hardness test with an ISO9002 certification? Stop talking nonsense.

  • "Do you understand the underlying concept of rights?"

    I don't think you've thought that one through. No right is uncomfortable. In practice, all rights are rights to be comfortable about something.

    Also, my point there (which you don't seem to have seen) is that, even if it gets proved that car ownership harmful to life in general and that we'd be much better off without them, they will never be prohibited because for humans an acquired comfort is very quickly taken to be a acquired right.

  • Hey doctor, what's your definition of a right?

  • This is why Japan Roxors

  • So you propose designing and building new cities? What do you propose to do with the cities we have now?

    Don't we already travel oceans with boats??? Which types of boats are you referring to because boats take an immense amount of resources to build and maintain.

    Are trains more efficient than the personal automobile? I ask because I've read studies that say in the end they're not.

  • Good. At least the auto conglomerates are at least attempting to expand the electric market.

  • Impressed by the cars. Unimpressed by the narrator. She uses the exact same intonation for EVERY sentence.

  • and your comments wont change anything

  • You've made me see the light. I expected the audio to change instantly after my comment, and now I regret to admit that this is not possible. Thank you BF2mods. You've changed my life. I'll never say anything stupid again.

  • Hear hear!

  • ahahaha =D

  • :•)

  • this is fkin cool! long live green energy

  • Maybe if they can have a little bit more endurance they will be really efficient.

  • The electric bills will cost more than petrol -.-

  • You need to learn. Fucking idiot.

    Where do you get your opinion from. Have you seen figures that back up your claim.

    Ignorant theist. pissant.

    XVX for life, R.A.S.H. 'til death.

  • Jesus! Did something happen to you when you were a kid?

  • FUTURISTIC CARS!! I WANT ONE! LOL

  • This is EXACTLY the path to follow: combine ecology, nice design and affordable prices and I'm sure it will be a great sucess in a few years, and a bad shot for the oil lobby.

  • Maybe a good one. It could free up oil for other areas of society?

  • Agree. And why not be the first (shy) step in order to move away from oil, and invest more in alternative, less polluing energy sources. A long way to go, but somewhere there has to be a starting point :-). I'm sure that the businesses will be able to make money with cleaner energy (and even use it as a selling argument), a matter of time.

  • Definitely! If anything can be made more environmentally friendly then its a good idea. I cant wait to get my own house and equip it with solar panels, and the like.

  • Agreed :-)

  • doesn't look so bad does it?

  • Don't expect the Volt to show up any time soon. GM had the technology for 50 years and refused to put a reasonable hybrid on the road at a reasonable price.

    Meanwhile, backyard mechanics and start-up companies who do make hybrids often find themselves in trouble because GM has bought up patents on key technology that is necessary to make the electric car a reality.

  • you are probably aware that there are other car makers than GM and that japanese car producer have hybrid in production at reasonable prices since a few years (toyota prius as an example - I recently was in Vancouver, majoroty of taxi are hybrid) and that germans (BMW, Mercs & co) will begin in the next 3-5 years. I agree this will take time, but I would not define them as "backyard and start up companies"

  • lol

  • Doesn't a lot of electrical energy go into the production/freezing of hydrogen, which is provided by thermal power plants burning fossil fuels? I really don't understand how hydrogen cars are "green" if the production of their fuel requires so much power.

  • that's half the selling trick :o the power plant calculations aren't count in :(

  • my guess is that the coal used to produce the electricity would still produce less carbon dioxide than a normal car would. and the plan is that eventually we will get all of our electricity from green energy...

  • I always thought cryogenic freezing was a very power intensive process. It would be interesting to see a comparison between amount of greenhouse gases emitted per mile for both hydrogen production and gas.

    It might kill the hydrogen car industry lol.

  • they don't freeze the hydrogen, it's just highly compressed.

  • w000t!

  • cool

  • No EMP protection.

  • "No EMP protection."

    So what neither do other new cars.

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