Actually, its not the program I refer to below, but it is very similar to a 2006 program, this one being made in 2008. So similar, it looks like they are giving the public a repeated dose of exactly the same thing. Drip feeding the propaganda that homeopathy is baaaaad, we must ban it! etc. etc. No doubt Sense about Science are behind this one as well..... Roll on Codex, Bilderberg, NWO, goodbye freedom of choice.
This nonsense program was an undercover investigation by campaigning group "Sense about Science" and BBC Newsnight. Sense about Science are another dodgy "charity" organisation, which is really a political policy marketer to promote coorporate interests. It was set up in 2002 by Lord Dick Tavern, who was previously top PR man for GlaxoSmithKline and a Bilderberger.
I might add that quite frankly, this lousy piece was nothing more than another propaganda attempt, to further the overall Bilderberg drive to ban homeopathy outright. With these credentials from the outset, there was no intention for the BBC to present a ‘Fair and unbiased’ report. Sense about Science have an agenda, therefore it cannot be unbiased.
@KEJenner Why do homeopaths consider evidence disproving their expertise in magically imbuing vegetables with positive, disease fighting, elements that can bring happiness and peace to the world conspiratorial work by people determined to destroy the world?
@xtam092 People assume that because its FDA approved and sold at a reputable entity alongside real medicine...that its as effective as real medicine. There needs to be an anti-homeopathic movement asap
I suggest this idiot goes to parts of Africa where Malaria is still endemic for at least a year then report back on how effective homeopathic medicines are against malaria.
While Homeopathy detractors cling to 8 FLAWED studies to discredit Homeopathy, there are over 200 well conducted clinical trials and studies done to prove that Homeopathy is NOT placebo effect by eminent scientists, among them:
Hans Von Euler - Nobel Laureate in Chemistry 1930
Brian David Josephson - Nobel Laureate in Physics 1973
Luc Montagnier - Nobel Laureate in Physiology & Medicine 2009
A recent study in the International Journal of Oncology demonstrated that four ultra-diluted homeopathic medicines exerted preferential cytotoxic effects against two breast cancer cell lines
Frenkel M et al. (2010): Cytotoxic effects of ultra-diluted remedies on breast cancer cells. International Journal of Oncology, 36: 395-403.
Every single homeopath is a quack. Every single school that teaches homeopathy are criminals. Every single company making homeopathic remedies are scam artists.
Absolutely and wholeheartedly disgusting to the core. Those fuckers have absolutely no morals what-so-ever.
If someone took Polo mints and had unprotected sex with a stranger and remain HIV-, would you say that the Polo mints protected them or that they were lucky? The Susan Curtis school of proof can convey special powers to the Polo mints merely by annectdote.
Same here kishan, iwas vaccine damaged, developed epilepsy, cured with homeopathy, i have not looked back to allopathy since; may be this is the reason why the allopaths and the drug companies hate the homeopahts, because they can undo what they do, defying science and scientific thinking???
@codyneel1I'm severely allergic to the antibiotic: penicillin-semi-coma resulted. My NHS medical doctor now prescribes me with safer homeopathic alternatives, to antibiotics.
@Amygdala100 Shut-up! You are on the comments section of every homeopathic video I see saying your NHS doctor prescribed you something for "abc" or "xyz". I say you're a homeopathic practitioner (or someone with a financial interest in homeopathy), or your "medical doctor" is a twat.
@LAnonHubbard I've noticed that you are also here, there and everywhere and I respect your freedom to do so, whatever interests or payroll you're on.
No, I'm not a homeopath, my NHS medical doctor who is also a trainer of doctors and nurses, integrated and trained himself in this area and has liberated me from the hospitalization of the antibiotics which robbed me of part of my childhood.
@Amygdala100 Yes, I am here because you're commenting on every homeopathic related video you can find and spreading lies. You also seem to be playing the game of rating up your messages. Even on anti-homeopathy videos, your comments are up-rated which is HIGHLY SUSPICIOUS!
My interests are in doing what little I can to protect fellow human beings from charlatans like homeopaths, priests, water diviners, and other quacks. Check who I am subscribed to for verification.
@Amygdala100 (...Continued) You are most certainly more connected to homeopathy than you pretend to be. If it happened to work for you, then fine - I'm glad for you. Why come on YouTube day after day quoting (bogus) nobel laureates, (dodgy) clinical trials, (questionable) percentages on success rates?
You're definitely in it for the money, so just 'fess up and we'll move on.
In a French study published in 1987, Silica, prepared homeopathically to the 10c potency, stimulated macrophage activity by nearly 70 percent. Macrophages are white cells belonging to the immune defense system that destroy harmful cells and microorganisms. Homeopathic remedies were also shown to be effective in correcting immunological disorders in mice.
First you must direct us to the original sources so we can assess the study design quality, bias and validity of its conclusions for ourselves.
Also, in vitro studies cannot support more general extrapolations. You make the results of the study sound remarkable, but that may be your own misunderstanding.
You need more studies than that to be able to make reliable conclusions. All the recent systematic reviews and meta analyses show no efficacy for homeopathy.
@Teghead mohanaturo never answers messages. He only ever goes around to spread lies as a missionary to do his bit to raise confidence for the quackery industry that he's playing in.
The mighty boot of truth works on the principle of energy. The kinetic energy of this mighty boot cannot be resisted by even the most highly attenuated woo.
she admits that there haven't been any trials of homeopathic dilutions on malaria yet still she sells the shit, no wonder she walked out. BUSTED!!!!!! Money talks, bullshit walks as they say:)))
While Homeopathy detractors cling to 8 FLAWED studies to discredit Homeopathy, there are over 200 well conducted clinical trials and studies done by eminent scientists and physicians around the world to prove that Homeopathy is NOT placebo effect.
lol, i suggest you research your claims. Mos, if not all, properly conducted studies have shown homeopathy is, at best, the placebo effect. If you are so sure homeopathy can prevent or cure malaria i challenge you to live in tropicall Africa with only homeopathic dilutions to fight off malaria & if you don't contract malaria i might believe your claims
We can replace antibiotics with fresh raw garlic. It is more effective and strengthens the immune system minus side-effects of Allopathic antibiotics.
Allopathy is completely useless in the treatment oc chronic diseases.
Allopathy is only good to keep death at bay for the critically ill who have weakened their immune systems by long term use of drugs, vaccinations & antibiotics.
Patients who have opted to use Homeopathy and Acupuncture for their long term healthcare have fewer hospital visits and a much more healthier immune system.
Any firm, or any individual, who knowingly offers homeopathic alternatives to real medicine as a prophylactic against ANY mortal illness should be prosecuted for attempted or actual negligent manslaughter.
THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE DIE EVERY YEAR FROM ALLOPATHIC MEDICINE.
"real medicine" ??
A senior executive with Britain's biggest drugs company has admitted that most prescription medicines do not work on most people who take them.
Allen Roses, worldwide vice-president of genetics at GlaxoSmithKline (GSK), said fewer than half of the patients prescribed some of the most expensive drugs actually derived any benefit from them.
1.) Either homeopathy or "allopathic" medicine is real (where "real" means "based upon sound reasoning and an accurate understanding of the universe").
2.) "Allopathic" medicine is not perfectly effective.
3.) Therefore, "allopathic" medicine is not real.
3.) Therefore, homeopathy is real.
Your argument is predicated on a false dilemma and requires unwarranted goalpost-shifting to get off the ground.
I'm pretty sure I accurately summarized the argument behind your post.
It's possible you weren't trying to argue in favor of homeopathy, although that was a reasonable assumption. In that case, you're only arguing propositions 2 and 3 (the first 3, obviously... excuse the typo), which is still faulty reasoning.
Meanwhile, you claim that your "understanding of this issue is rather more intrinsic." As far as I can tell, that's a meaningless string of words. Please to explain.
@MichaelKingsfordGray Homeopathy in my country is an integrated part of care within our "real" hospitals, and clinics funded by our National Health Service-see NHS CHOICES, many NHS doctors and nurses respect homeopathy as a successful form of treatment and will respect our freedom of choice and have reported on the benefits to people; however, When a country goes to war, well, obviously, the country seeks ways to save money-the good times go!
It is troubling that someone could have the attitude that a product could help a particular problem but try to lessen their liability by saying "It might or might not work" without any scientific credence. They could sell Pepsi and say the same thing.
I worked at nealsyard for many years, Romy Frazer the CEO at nealsyard, trusted to many people, especially the so-called advisers employed by her over the years. Most of them came to nealsyard with nothing more than conjectural bullshit advise, and expensive wages. One in particular was the previous General Manager who left nealsyard around 1996/97, he was the biggest "snake in the grass" ever employed here. The good people at nealsyard usually got pushed out. Best of Luck Romy.
"Homeopathic alternatives to immunisation"? That's outrageous - bordering on criminal.
HBJ
HunchbackJack 4 months ago
Go and ask them. If you are asking that question, you don't know anything of any substance about them... just like you don't know about homeopathy.
KEJenner 8 months ago
Actually, its not the program I refer to below, but it is very similar to a 2006 program, this one being made in 2008. So similar, it looks like they are giving the public a repeated dose of exactly the same thing. Drip feeding the propaganda that homeopathy is baaaaad, we must ban it! etc. etc. No doubt Sense about Science are behind this one as well..... Roll on Codex, Bilderberg, NWO, goodbye freedom of choice.
KEJenner 8 months ago
This nonsense program was an undercover investigation by campaigning group "Sense about Science" and BBC Newsnight. Sense about Science are another dodgy "charity" organisation, which is really a political policy marketer to promote coorporate interests. It was set up in 2002 by Lord Dick Tavern, who was previously top PR man for GlaxoSmithKline and a Bilderberger.
KEJenner 8 months ago
I might add that quite frankly, this lousy piece was nothing more than another propaganda attempt, to further the overall Bilderberg drive to ban homeopathy outright. With these credentials from the outset, there was no intention for the BBC to present a ‘Fair and unbiased’ report. Sense about Science have an agenda, therefore it cannot be unbiased.
KEJenner 8 months ago
@KEJenner Why do you think Bilderberg want to ban homeopathy?
blacktriangle 8 months ago
@KEJenner Why do you think Bilderberg want to ban homeopathy?
blacktriangle 8 months ago
@KEJenner Why do homeopaths consider evidence disproving their expertise in magically imbuing vegetables with positive, disease fighting, elements that can bring happiness and peace to the world conspiratorial work by people determined to destroy the world?
rohgenextfan 7 months ago
i work in a pharmacy that sells homeopathic products (mind you there is like 6 in the whole shop for sleeping/stress and what not)
everytime i walk past it i feel like ripping them off the shelf and shoving them in the trash....
xtam092 1 year ago
@xtam092 People assume that because its FDA approved and sold at a reputable entity alongside real medicine...that its as effective as real medicine. There needs to be an anti-homeopathic movement asap
axe863 1 year ago
@xtam092 Obviously the FDA has no direct effect on Australia.... Im talking as an American :P
axe863 1 year ago
I suggest this idiot goes to parts of Africa where Malaria is still endemic for at least a year then report back on how effective homeopathic medicines are against malaria.
Aydosh1991 1 year ago 2
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While Homeopathy detractors cling to 8 FLAWED studies to discredit Homeopathy, there are over 200 well conducted clinical trials and studies done to prove that Homeopathy is NOT placebo effect by eminent scientists, among them:
Hans Von Euler - Nobel Laureate in Chemistry 1930
Brian David Josephson - Nobel Laureate in Physics 1973
Luc Montagnier - Nobel Laureate in Physiology & Medicine 2009
mohanaturo 1 year ago
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Feb 13, 2010 HOMEOPATHY CURES BREAST CANCER
A recent study in the International Journal of Oncology demonstrated that four ultra-diluted homeopathic medicines exerted preferential cytotoxic effects against two breast cancer cell lines
Frenkel M et al. (2010): Cytotoxic effects of ultra-diluted remedies on breast cancer cells. International Journal of Oncology, 36: 395-403.
mohanaturo 1 year ago
I hope that Susan Curtis goes to jail.
axe863 1 year ago
a rather good expose of this form of quackery
stonetop 1 year ago 3
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Homeopaths are thick as pigshit! Give me the thumbs up if you agree!
Amygdala1OO 1 year ago 115
If PLAIN WATER can prevent/cure malaria, then homeopathy might stand a chance LOL.
DilutionDelusion 1 year ago 6
I use many Neal's Yard products but after seeing this documentary it has put me of buying from there in the future.
misty8385 1 year ago
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Frenkel M et al. (2010): Cytotoxic effects of ultra-diluted remedies on breast cancer cells, International Journal of Oncology, 36: 395-403.
mohanaturo 1 year ago
Every single homeopath is a quack. Every single school that teaches homeopathy are criminals. Every single company making homeopathic remedies are scam artists.
Absolutely and wholeheartedly disgusting to the core. Those fuckers have absolutely no morals what-so-ever.
antibunker 1 year ago 2
If someone took Polo mints and had unprotected sex with a stranger and remain HIV-, would you say that the Polo mints protected them or that they were lucky? The Susan Curtis school of proof can convey special powers to the Polo mints merely by annectdote.
metalbucket2 1 year ago
Her anecdotal evidence of one lends evidence to the fact that she is a quack trying to fleece money off people with more money than sense.
metalbucket2 1 year ago
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Worked for me as I was so ill for years, every time I traveled so my Gp and my specialist told me to try homeopathy.
and It worked!!!!
so Ive been using it for 15 years for most problems , Ow and I have not seen the Gp or been to the hospital for any illness since.
Thank god for Homeopathy well Dr Samuel Heinemann anyway.
kishan2000 1 year ago
@kishan2000 Anecdotal evidence is not proof.
AlexxxNZ 1 year ago
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@kishan2000
Same here kishan, iwas vaccine damaged, developed epilepsy, cured with homeopathy, i have not looked back to allopathy since; may be this is the reason why the allopaths and the drug companies hate the homeopahts, because they can undo what they do, defying science and scientific thinking???
codyneel1 1 year ago
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@codyneel1I'm severely allergic to the antibiotic: penicillin-semi-coma resulted. My NHS medical doctor now prescribes me with safer homeopathic alternatives, to antibiotics.
Amygdala100 1 year ago
@Amygdala100 Shut-up! You are on the comments section of every homeopathic video I see saying your NHS doctor prescribed you something for "abc" or "xyz". I say you're a homeopathic practitioner (or someone with a financial interest in homeopathy), or your "medical doctor" is a twat.
LAnonHubbard 1 year ago 7
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@LAnonHubbard I've noticed that you are also here, there and everywhere and I respect your freedom to do so, whatever interests or payroll you're on.
No, I'm not a homeopath, my NHS medical doctor who is also a trainer of doctors and nurses, integrated and trained himself in this area and has liberated me from the hospitalization of the antibiotics which robbed me of part of my childhood.
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Amygdala100 1 year ago
@Amygdala100 Yes, I am here because you're commenting on every homeopathic related video you can find and spreading lies. You also seem to be playing the game of rating up your messages. Even on anti-homeopathy videos, your comments are up-rated which is HIGHLY SUSPICIOUS!
My interests are in doing what little I can to protect fellow human beings from charlatans like homeopaths, priests, water diviners, and other quacks. Check who I am subscribed to for verification.
Continued...
LAnonHubbard 1 year ago 8
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heatherashio101 1 year ago
@heatherashio101 Well perhaps you and your friends will all p**s off and practice your witch-doctory in private.
And good riddance.
LAnonHubbard 1 year ago 69
@Amygdala100 (...Continued) You are most certainly more connected to homeopathy than you pretend to be. If it happened to work for you, then fine - I'm glad for you. Why come on YouTube day after day quoting (bogus) nobel laureates, (dodgy) clinical trials, (questionable) percentages on success rates?
You're definitely in it for the money, so just 'fess up and we'll move on.
LAnonHubbard 1 year ago 7
Homeopaths are thick as shit.
munsism 1 year ago 4
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In a French study published in 1987, Silica, prepared homeopathically to the 10c potency, stimulated macrophage activity by nearly 70 percent. Macrophages are white cells belonging to the immune defense system that destroy harmful cells and microorganisms. Homeopathic remedies were also shown to be effective in correcting immunological disorders in mice.
mohanaturo 2 years ago
@mohanaturo
First you must direct us to the original sources so we can assess the study design quality, bias and validity of its conclusions for ourselves.
Also, in vitro studies cannot support more general extrapolations. You make the results of the study sound remarkable, but that may be your own misunderstanding.
You need more studies than that to be able to make reliable conclusions. All the recent systematic reviews and meta analyses show no efficacy for homeopathy.
Teghead 1 year ago 4
@Teghead mohanaturo never answers messages. He only ever goes around to spread lies as a missionary to do his bit to raise confidence for the quackery industry that he's playing in.
antibunker 1 year ago 13
@mohanaturo Cherry Picking and lies. Pure and simple, oh, pure utter lying sack of shit !
antibunker 1 year ago 17
The mighty boot of truth works on the principle of energy. The kinetic energy of this mighty boot cannot be resisted by even the most highly attenuated woo.
holycatsbatman 2 years ago 2
Homeopathic medicine for malaria and other serious diseases is criminal.
There is nothing in it.
It Does not work!
SkepRob 2 years ago
she admits that there haven't been any trials of homeopathic dilutions on malaria yet still she sells the shit, no wonder she walked out. BUSTED!!!!!! Money talks, bullshit walks as they say:)))
KalahariSurf 2 years ago 3
I *hail* companies like Glaxo Smith Kline who can help put an end to this quackery!
a1mint 2 years ago 3
While Homeopathy detractors cling to 8 FLAWED studies to discredit Homeopathy, there are over 200 well conducted clinical trials and studies done by eminent scientists and physicians around the world to prove that Homeopathy is NOT placebo effect.
mohanaturo 2 years ago
lol, i suggest you research your claims. Mos, if not all, properly conducted studies have shown homeopathy is, at best, the placebo effect. If you are so sure homeopathy can prevent or cure malaria i challenge you to live in tropicall Africa with only homeopathic dilutions to fight off malaria & if you don't contract malaria i might believe your claims
KalahariSurf 2 years ago 3
LOL, I'm already doing that & teaching many people to do the same.
To developed a healthy immune system without the need for drugs, vaccinations & antibiotics.
I've taught many of my patients between the ages of 40 - 75 to resist Allopathy and use Acupuncture and Homeopathy instead
Swine flu vaccine causes Guillain Barre syndrome.
Antibiotics weaken the immune system.
mohanaturo 2 years ago
We can replace antibiotics with fresh raw garlic. It is more effective and strengthens the immune system minus side-effects of Allopathic antibiotics.
Allopathy is completely useless in the treatment oc chronic diseases.
Allopathy is only good to keep death at bay for the critically ill who have weakened their immune systems by long term use of drugs, vaccinations & antibiotics.
mohanaturo 2 years ago
Patients who have opted to use Homeopathy and Acupuncture for their long term healthcare have fewer hospital visits and a much more healthier immune system.
mohanaturo 2 years ago
"Swine flu vaccine causes Guillain Barre syndrome" that was the case in the 70s. i suggest you update your knowledge base
KalahariSurf 2 years ago 4
Any firm, or any individual, who knowingly offers homeopathic alternatives to real medicine as a prophylactic against ANY mortal illness should be prosecuted for attempted or actual negligent manslaughter.
MichaelKingsfordGray 2 years ago 5
THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE DIE EVERY YEAR FROM ALLOPATHIC MEDICINE.
"real medicine" ??
A senior executive with Britain's biggest drugs company has admitted that most prescription medicines do not work on most people who take them.
Allen Roses, worldwide vice-president of genetics at GlaxoSmithKline (GSK), said fewer than half of the patients prescribed some of the most expensive drugs actually derived any benefit from them.
The facts are more interesting.
Kingfillins 2 years ago
Your argument runs thus:
1.) Either homeopathy or "allopathic" medicine is real (where "real" means "based upon sound reasoning and an accurate understanding of the universe").
2.) "Allopathic" medicine is not perfectly effective.
3.) Therefore, "allopathic" medicine is not real.
3.) Therefore, homeopathy is real.
Your argument is predicated on a false dilemma and requires unwarranted goalpost-shifting to get off the ground.
Logic is not the homeopath's forte.
frezno109 2 years ago 2
frezno109, Cheers, However this is your logic not mine. This is not what I suggesting.
You are missing my point and thus are simply left with your own thoughts. These thoughts reflect you rather than me.
My understanding of this issue is rather more intrinsic.
Kingfillins 2 years ago
I'm pretty sure I accurately summarized the argument behind your post.
It's possible you weren't trying to argue in favor of homeopathy, although that was a reasonable assumption. In that case, you're only arguing propositions 2 and 3 (the first 3, obviously... excuse the typo), which is still faulty reasoning.
Meanwhile, you claim that your "understanding of this issue is rather more intrinsic." As far as I can tell, that's a meaningless string of words. Please to explain.
frezno109 2 years ago
Awesome deductive breakdown. I haven't seen the argument laid out like that. I shall steal, if you don't mind? :)
brilyn 2 years ago
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@MichaelKingsfordGray Homeopathy in my country is an integrated part of care within our "real" hospitals, and clinics funded by our National Health Service-see NHS CHOICES, many NHS doctors and nurses respect homeopathy as a successful form of treatment and will respect our freedom of choice and have reported on the benefits to people; however, When a country goes to war, well, obviously, the country seeks ways to save money-the good times go!
Amygdala100 1 year ago 5
It is troubling that someone could have the attitude that a product could help a particular problem but try to lessen their liability by saying "It might or might not work" without any scientific credence. They could sell Pepsi and say the same thing.
fredhetz 3 years ago 3
I worked at nealsyard for many years, Romy Frazer the CEO at nealsyard, trusted to many people, especially the so-called advisers employed by her over the years. Most of them came to nealsyard with nothing more than conjectural bullshit advise, and expensive wages. One in particular was the previous General Manager who left nealsyard around 1996/97, he was the biggest "snake in the grass" ever employed here. The good people at nealsyard usually got pushed out. Best of Luck Romy.
wahrawho 3 years ago