Moeller Method - Demo

[BittenMitten]

nice job!

[Brossel]

beautiful

[smartestmanonnet]

Smooth as a baby's bunda

[ksbg247]

Neat druming

[insightmetal]

Smoothly and lovely way of using Moeller!

[alvinleong2]

like your kit's sound

[lileulileu]

It's always pleasure to watch this video.

[drummer9042]

Ur doing it wrong. the stick is supposed to fly up on the down stoke so u can get a better sound out of the second stroke

[michaelmcmichaelson]

your drums sound amazing

[j0natz07]

good job man!!!

[xDrumsx4xLifex]

what is the point of this technique anyway? what is the avantage to it?

[ZiobroV]

@xDrumsx4xLifex Speed without the pain, without the strain on the wrists.

[antobrez]

Lovely :)

[bcwdrums]

Excellent stuff man...

[adzug]

watch jojos vid, sez you can do single doubles and 3s. more to the point i see alotta nerdos sayin this is it this isnt. ultimatly, if you play easy smoothly and in pocket youre playing well. my wrists and fingers are very very tight from work. sos i try my best to loosen and play moller but im limited in motion. cheers

[giosmrbig]

ottima tecnica bravo !!

[alloneword154]

Is this just R L alternating singles. With kind of a ghost note for the secondary???

[drumaddict26]

i love your snare!

[Phdinyourdemise]

i was always taught moeller was 2

then i watched chapin and he said 3

but the 2 is very useful i find

[brokeassdrummer]

Moeller is three notes a hand

[drummerkingmike]

@brokeassdrummer No - moeller can be ANY number of strokes. Youre confusing the actual techniqe with a common application of it.

[brokeassdrummer]

Chapin said so himself. It's 3

[drummerkingmike]

Sorry buddy but you're wrong and it's a shame cos it means you're missing out on something really great. Chapin said it should be learned as a three but once mastered it's uses are endless. Look at a video on here called Jim Chapin - Moeller Technique - Part 1 (jim and Dom Famularo) and you'll see him demonstrating moeller technique as 1, 2, 3 and 4 strokes with each hand. You're missing the point like so many do - moeller technique is a motion, not a number

[brokeassdrummer]

I guess you're right.

[Sutor]

Moeller is a technique, there are loads of exercises to practise it.

Most commonly with accents is 2's, 3's and 4's on each hand alternately.

[aintmybabyfour]

niceeeee. bravo

[demidrums]

well done man, nice snare.

[joeyjoejoe1916]

Great sounding drums.. lovely ride cymbal too!

[Lee222222]

thanks very much bro ! very natural looking ! God Bless you !

[Led757]

how long have you been playing for?

[shlempnar]

what i thought the moeller was a three "stroke" motion. i'm pretty sure i even heard it in a chapin video. this is just the whiping motion. the moeller would be the whip still.. but... stroke,tap,up-stroke. rather than stroke, up-stroke.

[drummerkingmike]

Moeller technique is just the motion. It can be one, two, three, fifty strokes, doesnt matter man - its just the motion that allows fluid playing and smooth accents.

[insightmetal]

You nailed it!

[gregs300]

Dude play around the barrel, Check Jim Chapin out he does!!!!

[69adrummer]

Dude, that bass drum kicks like a mule! Nice sound!

[ant1ph0n]

kit sounds nice!

[azzel7]

calm down buddy.

[robinmotion12]

are you retarded..that's moeller

[VitalThreatsDrumme]

nicely done! great sounding set

[imgonnawasteyou]

best sounding drum kit on youtube EVER.

and amazing playing to boot.

[mauroiron25]

great! very good!

[10013417coco]

hi im a drummer

[POPtheoriginal]

lol noooo shit

[lileulileu]

hahahahah :)

[lileulileu]

Do U feel comfortable playing double stroke rolls with this grip? Cos when I place the forefinger forward to press more for faster moeller strokes (the grip is between the middle finger and the thumb), i loose the finger control (for which I use the middle finger, but the grip is between the forefinger and the thumb)?

[krisdrepko]

Get lessons man, they always help. And doing everything slow and perfecting it before you go into faster tempo's is Crucial. I personally play Trad but I mastered both grips and found matched grip has a whole different feel and really opened up my creativity to drumming. (That's just me though)

But make sure if you're looking for a teacher to find someone who can teach advanced lessons and not just 9 year olds..

[lileulileu]

Well, I think someone can and should learn from anybody else. It doesn't matter being better than him/her, older or younger. When I saw for the first time this video of wingnutrules, believe me, this was my Crucial moment. All I needed after that was time only. I've got the creativity needed :) And besides, I learned moeller single stroke roll doing it faster first, then in slower tempo... and first with 4, then with 3 strokes. I guess it's different with anybody :)

[gkdrummerboy]

Actually I did that also, and you lose control. My teacher said when doing moeller stroke try to keep the index finger secure or else the rest of your fingers squeeze to compensate for the lack of control so you don;t play as relaxed.

[OKalrightalready]

the actual true moeller grip is the "fife and drum" grip traditional grip with one hand and the "back of the hand" (match grip)

using the pinky as the fulcrum

[tazslingerland]

SNARE DRUM SOUNDS GREAT CONGRATS

[garbageburrito]

you're quite good.

[max2dlax]

good sounding freakin drums dude. how do u get such a true tone?

[marcelokonzen]

this is not moeller is more to up and down troke ...moller is 1 arm moviment 3 or 4 rits in the snare...

[wingnutrules]

Moeller gets used for 2,3, and 4 strokes primary. But 2 does play into it.

[voodoodrums1981]

Moeller it's not about how many notes you gain in one arm movement...it's about the whip motion...and yes, the guy in the video is using the Moeller motion...

And there are three heights too, the low, medium and full motion...he is using something like the low motion...

[cjcdrums]

The new Jojo Mayer DVD is by far the best source for learning the moeller that I've seen, if you really want to learn it I'd suggest getting that.

[Kelavmeister]

i just got that- and i totally agree, hes outstanding!

[kvhhd56]

bottom line..nice job :)

[jopets06]

that was tight

[lileulileu]

I watch this video almost every day and ... I admire your skills. It's a kind of inspiration for me.) Good for me you've uploaded your video. Thanx!

[richcapo]

Good job. But watch out for switching to pure bounce at the higher speeds. It's no a press roll -- you have to articulate each hit with the wrist. Check out Chapin or Wasserman's vids on this. Again, good job, but slow down and get the technique down pat before you speed it up.

[wingnutrules]

Do you have any video of yourself doing this technique? You mentioned this twice now. I'd like to see how you do it, and how well. Just wondering, it helps to be sure that you're getting good advice from someone who can actually execute it.

[richcapo]

Sorry, no video. Check out Chapin's video -- he's the master of the technique, as far as I'm concerned. Don't need my advice when you have his! :)

[terminatordrum]

@wingnutrules what snare is this?

[Fma1416]

@wingnutrules OOOOH BURRNNNNNN

[littlephoenix1115]

actually its not that its a press roll... it can be interpreted as a controlled and staggerred open roll... theres varying opinion after years... chapin has taught both but clearly says the technique isnt dependant on the bounce and said to work with both

[CMSdline]

Can you do this while playing traditional also

[littlephoenix1115]

the moeller technicque was founded on civil war snare players who also were the proponent of traditional grip

[Catholicdrummer]

You got a pretty nice kit. I especially like the sound of your snare, what kind is it?

[Dee603]

good job