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  • Counting Population

  • It is amazing to me how educated, intelligent people can look at the growing population and think that there is no problem. We have survived by drawing down the earth's capital at a rate which can not be sustained.

  • It is interesting that a senior editor at National Geographic can discuss the issue of overpopulation with no mention of its impacts on other species.

    The only question is: can we keep adding more people, without the system crashing (enough food, water, etc. for people).

    Kunzig is "optimistic" about all this, as he tells us. But he can only keep his optimism by writing off other species.

    For a less selfish view, read Dave Foreman's new book, "Manswarm and the Killing of Wildlife"

  • its interesting, when they talk about overpopulation...they seem to show developing countries.... that is not true. Holland,United States is more populated than most african countries.... Africa is just beginning but they cannot say that our population will be this or that.... on what basis?

  • i tried to put my comment on the national geographic and THEY REFUSED TO PUBLISH IT...

    in their video it says that 50% are consuming worlds energy,but who is using this energy? its the world's richest countries....then they say that 13% dont have access to water... this has nothing to do over population, its luck of infrustructure,development.... its an unfair way of making those who live in developing world take the burden.

  • f u c k white people. they are evil

  • @streethustla24 they have a history of such.....yes indeed

  • In Mexico, Mexicans control all of their own government and private institutions, so that is Mexican Privilege.

    In Africa, Blacks control everything, so that is Black privilege.

    In Asia, Asians control everything from top to bottom and that means they have Asian privilege.

    Of course the only "privilege" these anti-Whites combat, is that of White people in their own countries.

    Anti-Racist is a codeword for Anti-White.

  • @Australiano75 You’re the one demanding White genocide.

    And now you're trying to silence me because I dared to speak out against it. If a White person opposes White genocide you anti-Whites scream, "racist naziwhowantstokillsixmillionje­ws."

    Everything you argue for supports the continued program of genocide against my race.

    Why do you hate White children so much? Why are you pushing White genocide on the internet?

    Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White.

  • @AusGael You are the final solution, the 20% that should be knocked off so humanity can progress. YOUR RACE hahaha fucking go and get a dna testing dickhead, i'm sure you'll find heaps of other races in you, you aren't fucking clean unless you are the very first born of the earth. You racists make me laugh with all your "save the white race", but when someone asks you where did your family come from you say "i'm a bit of this, a bit of that" fucking dickhead hahahaha

  • @Australiano75 <--- Anti-White says,

    "You racists make me laugh with all your "save the white race"... fucking dickhead"hahahaha

    Your hatred for White people is palpable. It is genocidal.

    

  • @Australiano75 What do you think about the hate crimes being perpetrated against whites such as the attack by several black women on a 14 year old girl on a Portland Oregon bus? Are you in favor of them? I'm asking in a nice tone if an anti-White such as yourself condones such behavior by blacks against lone defenseless whites.

  • @MrMantraMan

    "What do you think about the hate crimes being perpetrated against whites such as the attack by several black women on a 14 year old girl"

    If Austarliano is being honest he will say:"I`m a white genocide supporter,why would I care about attacks on white people?"

  • @MrMantraMan OH mr dickhead, go back to watching your clockwork orange and stroking yourself over local Imperial Kludd. You only count that poor little fly's fart atrocity, how aout yoru fucked up country that has killed millions of people. Never thought of that did you Mr KKK?

  • @Australiano75 That is how you justify a hate crime? I'm pretty sure you are in violation of your own country's hate crime laws yourself so keep it up Mr. Anti-White.

  • @MrMantraMan Eh he he he, ok Jed, pass me da moonshine, as long as you get yaself one of those things called an edumacashun and improve on ya countrys literacy rate, i think we might have ourselves a kentucky fried deal! Now were did ya put ya put dat KKK robe ya had, or is it in the wash getting the shit stains out of it from getting ass raped by ya brother? Hate crimes is a made up word. haters gonna hate jed!

  • @Australiano75 Meanwhile, back on planet earth; the continued programs and policies of multiculturalism, diversity and assimilation are destroying White countries and ONLY White countries.

    Fight against anti-white hating fiends like Australoass75. Tell this avowed liar we don’t want White Genocide or his agendas that would eliminate our White children.

  • @Australiano75 Are you ok? Would you call an African or Asian man names if he wanted to preserve his nation? Or are you anti-Whites just trained to hate whites? Do you anti-Whites get together and celebrate violence towards whites? Thanks for the answers.

  • @MrMantraMan Zzz, you're a jaw breaking yawn. Carry on with your verbal diarrhea. Doesn't feel like your screaming into the wind sometimes? Mummy didn't listen to you, but thank sakes for youtube and its commentary, now you can splatter the net with excrement from your mouth and hope that others would listen. Anyway its better if we get rid of whites like you, you're country seems to have a very low literacy and IQ rate. I prefer a world of smart people, no matter what colour they are.

  • @Australiano75 In your opinion he is racist. You are only saying it because he is White and has an opinion. Anti-racism is a code word for ANTI-WHITE animals like you to hide behind.

    Show the racism in his comment fool!

  • @kontejners define white wanker?

  • @kontejners Also have you heard of reverse racism FOOL? His comment is saying that brown peopel (whatever the fuck they are) is threatening the white race, like what white race? If its the stupid white race like him, then so be it, let the flood gates open. Whats the difference between white and brown anyway? we're all human, or did you forget that in hitler school?

  • @Australiano75 <-- Anti-White/

    "we're all human"

    Stalin said, he was a friend of humanity as well.

    You are justifying genocide against my race, by saying you are a "friend of humanity".

    I don't believe you. You want White GeNOcide.

    Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White.

  • @Australiano75 does not have a College degree (according to his channel) but has proven himself a future diploma holder in a most atrocious curriculum: He’s matriculated into the Program of (How to Promote White Genocide without Guilt of Consequences). He and his professors care little of the future decimation that will face White children in their planned Multicultural hell-hole. His anti-white agenda is pure evil but practiced and taught in every White county and University.

  • @wolfram54321 Wolfram54321, AusGael, MrMantraman, Lockhammer1972 keep on giving your posts a thumbs up, its kind of like a one armed man trying to high five himself. Absolutely proves nothing, or on another level it could be like a board of directors at Shit Lickers Inc promoting their own Shit Licker to be promoted for selling the Shit Licker product to Shit Lickers only, get my drift?

  • @wolfram54321 Of course you wouldn't see personal and real data on my profile wall. i'm not that stupid. So what proof do you have fool? We study Int. Development, you wouldn't even know what the fuck that is, because you come from a country that has a 55 ranking in a literacy rate, while you are considered 4-5th in the Human Development Index of the world, while Australia (a middle power ranks 2nd), so blow that out your arse fool.

  • @Australiano75 admits he is a LIAR. Thank-you for clearing that up. As for the quote you just copied from your school book; remember to give that to your mommy professor who tells you what to think and say. HA HA HA

  • @kontejners And looking at your history of commentry all over facebook, you seem to be some kind of third reicht crusader hey... telling everyone their anti white. Fucking go back to your paranoid fantasy dreams of getting ass raped by hitler.

  • @Australiano75 <-- Anti-White

    You are saying, any White man that opposes a White Genocide pusher like you, is a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionje­ws.

  • @Australiano75 What makes you an anti-White may I ask?

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  • @AusGael You seem to be a bit of an idiot, seems a lot of people have attacked your stupid comments here. Yes it is a working hypothesis and it has been proven that we all came from africa, what about it? why are you some paranoid racist for? I'm white, Australian and have a mixed background. If you are so much about white is right, how about you get the fuck out of australia and give your little white land back to the original black man? Ahhhh now you shut your mouth. FOOL!

  • @Australiano75 I notice you removed your original comment where you justified White genocide. (titter)

    Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White.

  • @AusGael Oh did I? I'm sorry you must of hallucinated that shit while getting ass raped by the Führer in your reverse racist paranoid dreams about some blah blah anti white race shit. I don't remove any of my comments, i speak the truth, while you just dribble shit. Cry that shit into your pillow fag rag.

  • @Australiano75

    "I'm white, Australian and have a mixed background."

    You can't be White and have a mixed background. White means you are of European stock and you are loyal to people of European stock.

    Like all anti-Whites you are trying to turn all White countries brown. That means no WHite people anywhere. That is genocide.

    So you are mixed race, which means you are something new and are loyal to your own kind. It is in your ethnic interest to turn all White countries brown.

  • @Lockhammer1972 Actually if you had a look at the world history, you'd see that there is no "white" europe, its been filtered by other races so many times I think you misunderstand what being white is, did you know that the true aryan race comes from Northern India? Not only that, my mixed background is 100% European (going by your stands what "white" is actually). So do you call spanish a white person? Did you know that their race is mixed of goths, romans, africans, arabs.

  • @Australiano75

    You are justifying White GeNOcide.

  • Damn Multiculturalism, it's destroying Europe. It's perfectly acceptable for Asian or African countries to be nationalistic and racially solid, but European countries NEED diversity. Biggest bullshit ever.

  • Incredible details of data behind at Knoema.com

  • Europe is not a country, man!!!

  • These guys criticizing intermarriage are likely to have never felt love in their lives.

  • Bomb the Japanese, problem solved.

    That's how America does it.

  • And White technology and White medicine has made it all possible. We have drastically lowered the rate of death in infants. And what do we have for it? A world in cultural decay. Europe and the West R being buried in primitive, uneducated, superstition people who do not share our democratic and liberal culturtal values. On most of these hungry mouths, freedom is wasted. ISLAM will bury us all. Life is not a "right", but the property of the healthy. It is time for a weeding out of the unfit.

  • hi

  • Niggers, Mexicans and India breed like fucking cockroaches. Our planet and human species is DOOMED. In our lifetime!

  • We are 4 billion over populated. Actually 5 billion over populated. Thats why the earth is polluted and quality of life is shit. 

  • 500 MILLION IS ENOUGH ON THIS PLANET AND IT CAN BE FIXED IN 100 YEARS WITHOUT KILLING ANYBODY JUST BY SEPARAITING MALE FROM FEMALE DURING SOME DECADES USING THE ARMED FORCES AROUND THE GLOOB AND HUGE CAMPS OR CITIES AND ONE DAY PARADISE WILL BE BACK.

  • @MrGrauman

    Separating male from female, does NOT paradise make. Surely you know the reproductive and companionship attraction between the sexes, is very great?

    There is no pleasant scenario by which world pop can atrophy or reduce to 500 million. That number is from the Georgia Guidestones, and shows NWO criminal elites, to not only have caused spread of poverty by manipulating governments and economies rigged against the poor, but that they aim to murder the poor for the "sin" of being poor.

  • Im so glad we white people get to build up the world with our technology, give the rest of the world our medicine and money.

    Then they have the audacity to tell US our children can't exist when its the 3rd world going through a baby boom because of the technology we gave them.

    I love it how I'm called a racist because I'm white and ITS THE TRUTH.

    Anti-population is a code word for LESS WHITE PEOPLE.

  • We don't seem to be able to video respond any more and I think given National Geographic's 7 billion series, the satire on over population fears entitled Get off my Planet: Happy Birthday 7 Billion will be of interst. Its also on you tube but I don't think we can post links.

  • And all the white genocide pushers hiding behind "anti-racism" care about is making sure that 7 billion has no white people in it.

    They know that genocide is genocide, no matter how it is carried out.

    They know: Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

  • People talk about this RACE problem, and how this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country. They say the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e. intermarry, with all those non-whites. It’s really just the final solution to the white problem. It’s genocide. They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white. Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

  • @AusGael how bout when white people took our counrties before and looting our wealth and stole from our people and rape our women, treat us like slaves. how about that ha? every war in the world today are the reason of white people screwing up this there before. and now we are taking over ur place ha? go f...k ur self.

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  • @jghgfghj You're justifying white genocide "because of history." You anti-whites always talk about my race as though we are especially exploitative of other peoples; as though white people have some sort of monopoly on evil and therefore deserve genocide. Most normal people find genocide abhorrent and totally unacceptable, but anti-whites like you drool at the prospect of world where there are no more white children.

    That's why we say anti-racist is just a code word for anti-white.

  • @AusGael i dont hate white people and im not racist but it is a historical fact that over the last 400 years the white man has made black people and Asia countries their slaves. now all of the sudden the educated white people are trying turn things around by inviting foreigners and givin black people freedom in america and south Africa.

  • @AusGael Another great reason not to have kids

  • @AusGael oh shut up, I'm tired of your "Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white" bullshit, it's everywhere, you repeat it like a fucking mantra. it might be that some day there are no more whites? maybe, maybe not, who gives a shit? oh what a tragedy, such a loss.. give me a fucking break would you? Are you aware that the origins of mankind are in Africa? skin color is just an adaptation to the enviroment. What makes whites so special? or any other "race" for that matter... (from a white guy)

  • @DocStrange0123 "skin color is just an adaptation to the enviroment" Not really. I'm pretty sure, due to evolution, some races have genetically different brains and thinking mechanisms that they inherited. Why is it that Whites and Asians seem to be the most civilized races, while other races, like Africans and Australian Aborigines, tend to be lower, and/or have fewer intellect at all? Is it just in their collective culture, or is it something they are born into? I say genetics.

  • @pashedmotatos

    Since when were Asian countries civilized?

  • @Jurib Japan, South Korea, China.

  • @DocStrange0123 Bravo, I tried telling this dickhead before the same thing. He's just a paranoid reverse racist. I'm white Australian, but made up of many backgrounds. I don't know why this australian idiot AusGael seems to think he's so special. Tell him to give the land back to the black man in Australia and head back to his white space if he thinks that. he's an idiot.

  • @Australiano75 <- Looks for support from a fellow anti-White who commented over 1 month ago. (titter) You're so pathetic.

    Why do you support White genocide?

    Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White.

  • @AusGael you just make shit up as you go, same blurb on your profile page "bwah bwah shit dribble anti racist code word shit blabba blabbar anti white".... Go and cry that shit into your pillow. You're all dreaming this shit up.World history and dna testing on you would fuck'n make you look like a dickhead paranoid racist.

    

  • @AusGael Booo hooo, mummy didn't listen to me, school didn't listen to me, so I'll post my shit on the net hoping that I can find a charles manson support group for my random irrelevant thoughts. If the new race replaces the white race with more intelligent and efficient people, and your race is dying out due to slow reproduction, then go and fucking get an education and fuck like crazy you dickhead.

  • @AusGael And I don't mean filling up trailer parks with dumb white shits like you neither.

  • I bet the Roman Catholic priests are so happy now cuz the larger the population = more donation, more brainwashed followers, and of course, more little kids to molest.

  • my theory

    more population equal more war equal more deaths and end of world

    2012 evidence

  • my theory

    more population equal more war equal more deaths and end of world

  • Bitch, I don't care why you love petmeds.

  • Am I wrong but about twenty years ago in school we were always taught that the world population was 8 Billion. So why all the excitement when one billion has vanished!!

  • @vanallenbelt1

    About 20 years ago, world population was officially surpassed 5 billion as of 1987. Now there are nearly 2 billion more of us! So that might be something to get a bit excited about, however, what really is new? History of the world has included expanding human populations and people spreading out over the globe.

    Imagine the crisis if for some reason, women could no longer conceive babies? More and more people would be glad to live, so go ahead enjoy having natural big families!

  • Ok! Change the gov.Bomb the elite and start over. It will come to everybody going green. I don't no. I like this guy. It is Hard to priedict what will happen. I am most worried about viruses and the gov. implanting them. G

    od bless to all.

  • Also see "overconsumpulation" and "one planet one child" for more on this topic.

  • Ther is so much land out there. People need to Know this. get on google earth.It is polution that we need to tackel. i realy believe that this earth can hold 30 billion plus.

    Do not let them scare you.

  • @hunsadersrockinranch 58 national science academies disagree with you.

  • here are some solutions to overpopulation - change laws, change tax policies, stop giving freebies to freeloaders - for example, you have children then you pay for them and stop asking the taxpayer to fund them and you will se birth rates decrease dramatically.

  • @dmeiske1

    Change laws? Okay, how about abolishing most every supposed (unconstitutional) "law" since the Civil War, and go back to the U.S. Constitution. Change tax policies? Abolish the unconstitutional income tax, so we can have jobs again and take care of our (naturally growing) families. Freebies? Those aren't free, but are used to buy off votes of gullible people. If we could get the politicians out of our pockets and out of our business, then we could be more self reliant, save for future

  • I am sick of people having 6 kids, meanwhile there are kids who need homes, meanwhile kids are starving, homeless youth need support...ahhhh....I am talking about people I know in Australia...so depressing...

    I am personally thinking of not having any children simply because i know there are plenty of humans going to be born anyways...haha...sad but i realise humans take up alot of 1.space, 2. resources, 3. energy

  • @Missrainbowmuffin

    It's wonderful for people to be having 6 or more children, as the door to life should be kept wide open, and the body's reproductive rhythms respected, babies welcome to push out just as fast as they come.

    It's not either-or, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's some of the larger families doing much of the adopting of children needing homes, that, and those who are infertile or just can't seem to conceive more children.

    More and more people would be glad to come alive!

  • @pronatalist If everyone thought it was "wonderful to be having 6 or more children" this world wouldn't be all happy, cheerful and HURRAY FOR HUMAN LIFE!!! Seriously...ever been to India? There is a reason Western countries no longer breed like rabbits - i.e we don't need to and shouldn't have to for many reasons...

  • @Missrainbowmuffin

    If everyone thought it was wonderful to have so many children then the world would be a lot better place, as the people would be in obedience to God, rather than rebellion, and thus can expect blessings and their countries to prosper

    There is a reason? What? The New World Order elites rampant pushing of unnatural contraceptives? Sabotage of the natural human fertility? You would think that the wealthiest families,or countries, would want the most children? They can afford it

  • @Missrainbowmuffin Western countries especially America are breeding more than you think. Teen pregnancies in America are 8 times than anywhere else. Think about that. 8 times more than India. And being that despite what alot of ppl think majority of Americans are dirt fucking poor or borderline poor. If you combined middle class and upper classs toghther you still wouldn't get half of the lower class. Poor eco systems create babies = help to work . Why do you think Africa is overpopulated?

  • @selftaughtninja

    About your replies to selftaughtninja:

    American teenage pregnancies are 8 times than anywhere else? 8 times seems just too high, to be believable? Can you cite a source?

    A caution. I've heard somewhere, a claim that anti-life, pro-abort, or whatever pro-"Sex Ed" special interest group, is telling half-truths about our American "teenage pregnancy" rate, to push a pagan agenda. Supposedly, U.S. has a million teenage pregnancies/year. But half are to MARRIED 18 or 19-year-olds.

  • @pronatalist Actually thats my fault. I was on the computer and my roomate was watching dr phil and I overheard it. So I dont know if it really is a fact. But thats what I heard.

  • @selftaughtninja

    Liberals find or make up selective statistics, to tell their lies. Statistics aren't reliable, especially if put out by politically-motivated governments.

    why poor people breed so much: They say of poor people, that children are their only wealth. And their "old age security." And sex about the only recreation they can afford.

    I asked a father of 8, why they had so many children. "Didn't really give it much thought." Even in modern times, so many just keep fucking naturally.

  • @selftaughtninja

    There's a population undercounting theory, says world pop may already be to 8 or 8 1/2 billion by now. How many people are alive these days, living in shacks or huts, little or no paperwork showing that they exist? How many births aren't recorded?

    I heard on some TV game show, some remark that pop pretty much only goes up. I should hope so. We expect for our investments to go up. We expect for our hearts to keep beating, we keep eating, so we should expect to keep reproducing.

  • @pronatalist Actually I didn't think about that. There prolly is over 8 billion ppl even possibly 9 billion. the crazy thing is if wasnt for HIV ( I'm not glad that disease kills ppl just giving an example) but if it wasnt for that disease. We'd prolly be at about 14 or 15 billion. Everytime we go up a billion it takes less and less time to make a billion. It use to take 12 years to get to a billion. I think now it takes 10 yrs. With 200 mil being born each year.

  • @selftaughtninja

    Some YouTube video said that so many children died of AIDS in Africa, it couldn't have been from sexual promiscuity. Only way possible, was that they put AIDS in the vaccines. See what I mean about warning against trying to impose pop "control?" Bad ideas contribute to criminal behavior of criminal elites. And yet they say AIDS hasn't killed enough people, to put all that much a dent into the pop growth.

    So let us grow to 15 billion, or however many. Pop is what it is.

  • @selftaughtninja

    I think the pop undercounting theory pretty much says, take the "official" pop count, and add another billion and maybe a half too. Because we all know that communists and politicians can't count. They can't even seem to balance their own checkbooks. Hey, it's a theory to consider. Okay, but I don't think you can just throw in +2 billion more, or 9 billion means nothing, because now we are just making up numbers. Could be 9 billion,sure, but it may be only 6 billion? Who knows?

  • @selftaughtninja

    Do you know what level of ESTIMATING goes on in deriving pop counts? Neither do I. So we are limited as to how much we can "correct for" discrepancies. So I pretty much keep to the "official" numbers,as why argue over what most people agree on,well unless it's relevant to the discussion?

    Which gets to another theory of mine. Isn't it a bit odd, how much family size has supposedly dropped all around the world, due to the rampant use of contraceptives? And yet so many don't use?

  • @selftaughtninja

    This means, not only might there be MORE world pop than we have been told, but it may still be growing more rapidly, than the "official" figures would have us to believe? But then is that "bad" news? Not at all,for it further proves that the planet can indeed hold so many people.But unlike the evil liberal control freaks,I don't have a research budget to prove my theories.There's probably not 9B,but who knows?

    Are they telling us everybody uses birth control,to make it happen?

  • @selftaughtninja

    Yes, each billion naturally comes faster and faster, for now there's more women of childbearing age, than there was previously. And yet, that last couple billions each came 12 years apart, so it's not speeding up any more. Or is it?

    Look at all the lies they told us. Maybe not enough people were using the nasty unnatural contraceptives, so they just "deem" that they are, hoping the propaganda that "everybody's doing it," can somehow snare more people into using birth control?

  • @selftaughtninja

    So if pop has risen to 8 or 9 billion already, then maybe indeed the billions are coming faster still, but not by the admitted "official" numbers. If it was only 10 years, with 200 mil born each year, that would mean half as many are dying. But the figures I have heard, is each person who dies, is replaced by 3 more. Probably not more than 120 or 140 mil births per year, 80 mil net increase

    We don't need disease to slow pop, as there's more homes/parents now to raise more kids

  • @pronatalist "80 mil net increase"

    The annual net increase is now 75 million. That's calculated from an annual growth rate of 1.092%, and a population of 6.9 billion. 75 million per year works out to 13.3 years between billions.

  • @hitssquad

    1.1%What? Not even 1.2% or 1.3%? And yet 90-some % of pop growth now comes from developing countries they claim? Russia doesn't have a big enough pop to be skewing the world rate of growth downward so much. Is this evidence that they are "deeming" (my theory) the growth rate to be lower than it actually is, pretending everybody is using the unnatural "artificial" "birth control" they keep pushing?

    7B by Oct, so that's 7.0B now, not 6.9B. 6B to 7B = 12 years. 13 years not yet proven?

  • @hitssquad

    Notice I threw out your 1.092% figure, and replaced it with 1.1%. Due to 500 char limit, but more importantly, you had too many significant digits. Proper scientific measurements are only supposed to have 1 uncertain digit, so the number is rounded to achieve that standard. Some us so doubt the methodology of pop counts, pop could be 6B or 8B or 8.5B.

    Growing pop base is battling against a lowering of the annual increase absolute figure, although it supposedly peaked in the 1980s.

  • @hitssquad

    selftaughtninja opines that years between billions, continues to shrink, as world pop naturally burgeons exponentially, I would add. While I would welcome that prospect, as it is the natural expectation, the "official" numbers don't confirm this either, not during the last few decades.

    Now let's say world did ACCURATE census, and surprising shock!, unreported births brings head count to 10B. Would that be a cause for alarm?, rush to 1-child worldwide policy? NO. Proof of NWO liars.

  • @pronatalist "I threw out your 1.092% figure, and replaced it with 1.1%."

    It's from the CIA World Factbook. Please look it up:

    Population: 6,928,198,253 (July 2011 est.)

    Population growth rate: 1.092% (2011 est.)

    Birth rate: 19.15 births/1,000 population (2011 est.)

    Death rate: 8.12 deaths/1,000 population (July 2011 est.)

    .

    "you had too many significant digits. Proper scientific measurements are only supposed to have 1 uncertain digit"

    You're being absurd.

  • @hitssquad

    I'm being absurd? I'm trying to get it right, and perhaps trying to make a point as to the great uncertainty in some of the statistics. Pop estimates are more like guess-timates. We live in a populous world that is growing by nearly a billion a decade. When we can't be sure whether it be, 7B or 8.5B, what does 6.9B or 7.0B matter? CIA says 6.9B, NG claims 7B already. Who's more official?

    Just "babies inside womb" would add another 0.1B,and who has counted these already alive people?

  • @pronatalist "NG claims 7B already."

    No. National Geographic is using UN figures. The two main bodies figuring world population are the UN and the US Census Bureau. The UN has tended to estimate slightly higher figures than the US Census Bureau. However, even the UN doesn't think the world has reached 7 billion yet: [wiki] "The "Day of 7 Billion" has been targeted by the United States Census Bureau to be in July 2012, while the Population Division of the United Nations suggests 26 August 2011."

  • @hitssquad

    And here I thought I heard somewhere, that we are supposed to reach the 7B mark in October? So while the world pop odometer may not have turned over all 10 digits just yet, we are at 7.0B already, by UN figures. 6 million * 2.3 months shy, still = 7.0B. But no way can they have accurate pop data from 200 countries, and every remote island.

    Of course, slightly wrong statistics, poor methodology, isn't near as bad, as their godless trivialization of human beings as comodities to abuse

  • @hitssquad:

    It's CIA being absurd and unscientific. Of course, I should expect that from an incompetent gov agency? 10 sig. digits for world pop? Does anybody have any idea how fast pop grows overall worldwide? We add 2 or 3 people per second, 211,000 per day, net increase. So within the time it takes to type or copy-and-paste, the figure is already out-of-date. World pop expands by 6 million a month, so the figure should have 4 sig. digits at most,if it's updated monthly

    10 digit=pop odometer

  • @pronatalist "October?"

    Wiki needs updating. The UNFPA recently (just last month) revised its estimated day of 7 billion to October 31, 2011: unfpa. org/public/home/news/pid/7597 "PRESS RELEASE 03 May 2011 [...] World population is projected to reach 7 billion on 31 October 2011, according to the 2010 Revision of World Population Prospects, the official United Nations population projections prepared by the Population Division of the Department of Economic and Social Affairs and released today."

  • @hitssquad

    UNFPA? United Nations Fund for Population Activities? What kind of evil org tries to legitimize its meddling in the most intimate of human relations, with a name like that? What are Population Activites anyway? Shoving condoms in people's faces? Spewing anti-life propaganda? Or perhaps dragging off women to forced abortions? Or perhaps they try to pretend like they are some legitimate (wicked) authority on pop matters, by collecting reams of stats?

    I've opposed pop control 2 decades

  • @selftaughtninja

    Pop phobics actually hinder whatever reforms might be needed, to help ADAPT to the increasingly populous world our world may be perhaps becoming.

    We didn't get to 7B for no reason, but by some intelligent design of God. So celebrate the natural blossoming of human life, even upon a now populous world. Not only should people feel welcome to enjoy having "all the children that God gives," but as the number of fertile birth canals naturally rises, let babies freely come from all.

  • @selftaughtninja World development indicators show otherwise that United States population, unlike many other areas in the West is growing, but nothing compared to India and China, even in Africa with AIDS, their fetility (birth) rates outweigh the deaths. Teen pregnancies is just one factor, I am considering the growth overall in birth rates. India and China are each over the 1 billion mark...America hasn't touched 500 million....and I am glad it hasn't

  • @Missrainbowmuffin

    If India and China, can each apparently hold over a billion people, why not also America? Are we somehow too "special" or privileged, that we shouldn't have to also adapt to a population so dense? And yet we have so much land, America could easily hold billions of people.

    I don't believe in use of "birth control," as it goes against nature and has a wicked history. I would welcome an America pushing towards a billion, especially if it comes naturally by natural increase.

  • @TERIYAAA!!!!! What in the flying Hell on Satan's back are you doing here? I thought you went back to the doctor for a stronger dose of Viagra. Guess it didn't work. Too limp, like your brain. Birth control happens in nature. Armadillos can postpone a pregnancy and if no favorable conditions are found, they can ABORT their fetuses! Birth control and abortion are natural. Let the pop stabilize! Society will improve with higher IQ people. Let nature free. ALF/ELF and abortion rights forever!

  • @vgman94

    "on Satan's back?" Huh? You aren't going to take my Lord's name in vain? Sinners do that, showing that they know who the true God is, so that they have no excuse. You don't hear people taking Buddha or Alla's name in vain? I haven't heard your expression before. What does it mean?

    We aren't armadillos. If you haven't noticed, humans are way more populous than armadillos. Humans can make favorable conditions for the natural spread of human life,most everywhere. Let the pop soar natural

  • @pronatalist Your lord? The Lord wouldn't ever want you using His name. Exodus and Numbers 5: 11-31 contradict your belief against abortion. Hell, the only reason you are against abortion is because it lowers pop. Common sense says we should moderate our numbers. Of course, common sense has become all too uncommon in these years. You conservitards are against animal rights, against abortion rights and want to destroy the planet with overpopulation. You sickos need a real education.

  • @vgman94

    What do you know of my Lord, to tell me that he wouldn't want me to mention his name?

    The Bible warns again and again, that the wicked will perish. That does not translate into that we should "abort" the righteous. Lowering the pop growth, is not the only reason I oppose abortion. I don't just only want for the human pop to naturally grow and grow, but what about individual rights for individuals? Right to life is rather prerequisite to the other human rights, don't you think?

  • @vgman94

    Common sense says that our now "huge" human numbers, should be free to grow. People know this, for how many times have I heard, "There's lots of places all around to put more people." Sure, I agree with this, but that popular saying also implies that people have a natural or God-given desire for mankind to increase and multiply,even if it may mean a "denser,"more populous,world

    Moderate our numbers? How about, you first? I need no excuse to go on living, or to be procreating naturally

  • @vgman94

    It should be obvious that contraception is not natural, condoms are not natural, imposing abortion upon humans is not natural. Abortions rarely are "do it yourself," but performed by an abortion "doctor" in some awful abortion mill. It's easier and far more natural, to let the baby inside go on growing,growing towards birth. And to let the next pregnancy come afterward,when it comes

    Truth be told, the planet can potentially hold a far larger and denser human pop, if developed for that

  • The Earth can hold more humans at the expense of animals. This is immoral to Gaia, to God and to animals and ourselves. Try going outside your trailer and see what it's like in a crowded mall. Don't even leave until the mall closes, then think about how it'd be day after day. The baby would be better off morally if aborted and the living would be better off with a lower pop. Stop being such a troll because your mom aborted a sibling. He is GONE, let it go! Then you, a wicked one, shall perish.

  • @vgman94

    Many animals appear to have no complaint at all, of humanity's expanding numbers. Even animals might understand, that humans too have a powerful urge to reproduce, although animals likely don't think much of such things. Some rabbit that likes to hide under my car, and gazes at me rather than flee. Birds watch humans and cars whizzing by, from their perch on the power lines. Perhaps they too, think humans are amazing, curious.

    Even a "very crowded mall" is better than no life at all.

  • @vgman94

    Why can't you see, that nature, Gaia, whatever you want to call it, is driving human numbers to expand? As another YT video info text opined, Gaia is pregnant and really wants to have this baby. In nature, life naturally expands into most every available niche, so should it be so surprising then, that huge cities steadily grow huger, or that urban areas seems to spread, a little bit perhaps, like a "virus?"

    My Mom had 4 children, no abortions, said I should have all children God gives

  • @vgman94

    Bees live in beehives, so what's so wrong then, with there coming to be so many, many humans, that some either choose to, or have to, live in massive supercities, just for the planet to somehow hold so many people?

    People are not better off with a lower pop, but with a much higher pop, so that people may somehow go on enjoying having their precious darling babies. Perhaps giving up supposedly, "a little green space" is but a small price to pay, for more people to experience life?

  • @vgman94

    But crowding is not caused by high pop levels, so much as by poverty created by wicked govs and dishonest paper fiat currencies, designed to transfer wealth from productive people to the criminal elite politicians.

    Why are fat, lazy, "educated," Americans so spoiled rotten, that some whine against how natural it may be now, for countries to have a billion+ inhabitants? I say that if we too grew to over a billion, the planet could hold better a lot more people. We can "scoot over" too.

  • @pronatalist Having billions of residents in a country is NOT natural. Natural = nature. You don't see animals overpopulating to our degree. How cruel you are to torture animals for your own selfish wants and pretend Gaia wishes humans to expand. The puppies live, but they're NOT happy. Being cramped until they're basically piles of bodies in a cage where they can't move at all is not good. Life is not that good, and no matter what, there is a level of crowding NO-ONE can ge used to.

  • @vgman94

    Why is it not natural to have billions of people in a country? Of course it is. It's nature doing it. Are penises not natural? How about vaginas? Is sexual intercourse not natural? Did China and India naturally grow so populated, by "test tube" babies or something? Of course not, but by the old natural way of humans reproducing.

    Humans are not "overpopulated." That we enjoy being constantly "in heat" is a sign that humans were designed to eventually populate perhaps to very high level

  • @pronatalist Because animals don't Nature and natural is what animals and environment do/allow. If we do it and other species don't, it's not natural Sexual intercourse is natural, creating a mass extinction through overpopulation is NOT. HAHAHA! We enjoy constantly being in heat... Right. Maybe when we have a partner, but without one, it's absolute torture. No, we populate the way we do because we were designed with weakness. Disease and predation were supposed to control us.

  • @vgman94

    Humans are not "outside" of nature, but a part of nature, and yet we transcend nature, having been created in God's image. See, that's something I vehemently disagree with the enviro-wackos about, them trying to exclude humans having any rightful place within nature, as if we were "foreign invaders" with no human rights? Thus, even the huge cities it may take to somehow absorb our huge and naturally rising pops, ARE NATURAL, and thus "Gaia" should have no objection to cities spreading.

  • @vgman94

    I also don't agree with enviros, that the so-called human "overpopulation" is supposedly eventually fatal to humans. No, we are naturally and intelligently altering nature to better hold so many people, which as I previously explained, we should have some natural right to do so. And we humans need not apologize for having risen towards perhaps a "climax" kind that takes over, humans being now among the most populous of the large mammals.

    Births should be free to greatly outpace deaths

  • @vgman94

    You didn't know that humans are constantly "in heat?" We breed year-round, we are not confined to some limited breeding season, like many animals are. Quite many humans have sex nearly daily, although we are among the slowest-breeding of God's creatures. 9 months in the womb, is a bit long on the gestational average timetable for mammals.

    It's absolute torture? Your opinion. If I could adjust the reproductive drive dial for humans, I would turn it up a bit, not down, so deal with it.

  • @pronatalist Dost thou read? I said we don't enjoy constantly being in heat without a partner. Without someone to have sex with, being in heat is misery. The reproductive drive is painful for people. It should go down for mental welfare as well as the population crisis.

  • @vgman94

    So you agree with Big Brother gov, banning orgasm, perhaps with awful experimental pills or something? Funny, I always seem to hear of people wanting a little bit "bigger" penis, not to be less-endowed or less "in heat."

    Why do people joke about "just take a cold shower?" While I don't agree with making the water cold, if one feels their penis stiffening, there is wisdom in those old sayings. It really means, Have some self-control. Don't medicate everything with some unnatural pill.

  • @pronatalist I never said ban orgasm. I say ban tax incentives for childbirth, ban social praise for having kids, give tax incentives to the child free and thos ewho donote to green organizations. Why don't you have some self control and stop commenting? You're drowning the damn video.

  • @vgman94

    Sorry about posting too much. I wish I could be more concise. However, I do not like to leave unanswered questions, especially when I so know the answers.

    Some cities have huge numbers of people, and there must needs be some accommodation for the natural increase of so many people, as surely people living in cities, also have need for "sexual release" of having their babies too? Most cities have plenty of ground-level places. But if unaffordable, why can't you move to the countryside?

  • @vgman94

    Perhaps the NG article, does speak to the need for some changes, as the world pop naturally grows past the "huge" size of 7 billion. But I wish they would have talked more of the need for pop accommodation, and not so much of pushing the unnatural, anti-life, birth "control."

    You speak for coercion against "large" families, something that I, as a pro-lifer, must oppose. People should never pay taxes\penalties for "overbreeding," but rather, simply provide for, love their children.

  • @vgman94

    You say you aren't for banning orgasm, but have you really thought through your position? If orgasm is allowed, permitted, urged, then isn't it possible, the human race may go on growing and growing? More people = more orgams = more babies being born = more future orgasms = swelling pop?

    Is orgasm the most thoughtful, intelligent way to contemplate the proper pace of the natural expansion of mankind? No,it's God's reward for doing our duty to multiply, and reminds us to marry and mate

  • @vgman94

    Should young guys in China,be between a rock and a hard place, so to speak? What are they do to, with their powerful reproductive urges, if they can't marry and enjoy big families, in China? Go to some other country and get married? Doesn't China have the 1st duty to better accommodate their own pop growth,by allowing their spacious huge country,to steadily grow denser and denser with people? China obviously knows how to build more housing, more cities, more power plants,more factories

  • @pronatalist Go back into your little shit hole. I'm not replying to this myriad of insanity. Get a clue, you asinine burro. Go screw an octopus and leave intelligent humans in peace.

  • @vgman94

    Should I be some anti-pop, cruel, party-pooper? Let people enjoy having their sex, let the pop grow, as pop expands, let more people become sexually active. Unlike the evil pop phobics, I do believe there are ample means to better accommodate rising human pops, well into the future.

    I agree with incentives and social praise for having kids. Sure, perhaps many countries don't have any "shortage" of people anymore. But more and more people would be glad to live, and we can find places.

  • @vgman94

    I believe the human reproductive drive is for good reason, not some "evolution mistake" or vestige of the past. I believe it is for today, even within today's populous supercities. The remedy is not less reproductive drive, but to help people find suitable partners to get married, and then welcome them to let the babies push out naturally, without any means of imposing "birth control."

    I agree with Rosanne,TV sitcom,saying erections for young guys are normal,sometimes even tenting up.

  • @vgman94

    I agree with Roseanne, that the school bus can be like a "vibrator." It just won't stop, even as a young guy with new sexual "feelings," feels an erection rising up,"a trouser snake." Is the answer to ban buses? Of course not, let's be realistic. But they should put seatbelts on gov buses. No, the answer is to ignore spontaneous hard-ons if the guy isn't flaunting it, or hide it under one's coat or bookbag? Puberty is a natural part of growing up

    Let more people marry,procreate freely

  • @vgman94

    That's another thing I can't stand about the weak-minded enviro-wackos, their sloppy opinions that more people ought to die due to disease and predation, to somehow keep the birth-death ratio "in balance," so as to end the natural human pop "explosion." Why are they so against humans,their very own kind? Perhaps because they are superstitious,or they listen to"doctrines of demons,"being so much into deception and false religion?

    The pro-life message does nothing to keep pop "in check"

  • @vgman94

    That's a reason I consider it important, for pro-life activists such as myself, to be prepared to give a good explanation as to why encouraging the natural pop rise, is probably a good thing anyway.

    Of course, it's probably a good thing to be skeptical, as to whether it's a good thing to have so much sex in our music, on TV, in advertisements, in video games. They are "lust songs," not love songs?

    But I do agree with corporate advertising culture, urging big families, for more sales.

  • @vgman94

    Gaia isn't even real, so isn't it a bit silly to talk about whether Gaia wants humans to expand? In fiction, you have to ask THE AUTHOR what the fictional character wants. Who is the author? Doctrines of demons? Evil people or demons? Or is it simply nature which God created. Scripture, and most major religions all tell humans to expand numbers.

    If humans enjoy sex natural, reject the awful body-polluting contraceptives, then expect many families to grow large, pops to grow and grow.

  • @vgman94

    How do you know that there's some level of crowding no one can get used to? Some guy said on TV of 9-11, that he misses his brother. "There was so many of us, we once shared beds." Sounds like he grew up in a large family, within "overcrowded" housing, the house was so full of children. Sounds like he got rather used to it, wouldn't have it any other way. Sure, a larger home would be preferable, if affordable for them.

    Crowds so dense people can hardly move, are remedied by highrises?

  • @pronatalist Highrise still means you don't have much space and some people enjoy being on the ground. OOOOHH, So when you want to get rid of someone, it's the ones you don't like? What happened to turning the other cheek and "love thy neighbor" and forgiving your enemies as the Bible said? There is no "new normal". Things are getting worse due to population. Get a fucking clue, dumbass.