@sharaaby You do realise not all Palestinians are Muslim, right? And that arabs in Israel, the descendants of those who managed to stay in 1948 Palestine are horribly discriminated against? From your comment you know nothing about this struggle and only care about condemning others who don't fit your narrow world view - it seems like you're the hypocrite.
q basa con el mundo porq la gente no se quega mira como begaban el niño no tienen terecho fueraaaaa islael y biba palestine (Free Palestine(وكانت إسرائيل فلسطين حرة
this d.a.m group are arab from israel and they dont believe in the quran they drink alcohole and look like americans they are just want to make money with there music they dont care about the arabs they are hipocrites
Well, I dont think there is a Palestinian Nation at all... I think its a Colonial invention Palestinian Nation. I think there is an Arab Nation... I think that until the end of the 19TH century, Palestine was the South of Great Syria.
Arab Israel Member of Knesset, Azmi Bishara, on Israeli TV
@NERV180 Saying "I love Palestine" is really stupid because there's no such thing. It's like saying "I love Santa Claus", except that Old Saint Nick isn't a violent barbaric jihadi piece of trash.
@jimmyjoemeeker Palestine was the historic name of a strip of land, and the Palestinians a the group of people who used to live there as a majority. By loving Palestine, they are celebrating what they see as their right to all or part of the land. It isn't all that complicated. Your criticism of people saying that they love Palestine is either founded in willfull ignorance, or an immense amount of genuine stupidity.
"It is only for tactical reasons that we carefully stress our Palestinian identity, for it is in the national interest of the Arabs to encourage a separate Palestinian identity to counter Zionism: The founding of a Palestinian state is a new tool in the ongoing battle against Israel..."
Zohair Mohsin, member of PLO Executive Council, to the Dutch newspaper Trouw, March 31, 1977
@jimmyjoemeeker You think I haven't seen that quote of yours before? I have. All that says is that Palestinian nationalism is relatively new, just like Zionism. It doesn't change the fact that the people claiming to be Palestinians lived on that land for generation upon generation where as Zionists had not until they immigrated.
@jimmyjoemeeker In your comment, you've equated Palestine with violent, barbaric, jihadi trash. Would it be fair of me to paint Israel as nothing more than a sick and radical state founded on ethnic cleansing and aparthied? Obliviously, Palestine and Israel are not terrorist organizations (though their governments may be headed by terrorists), but rather, words/countries that represent larger groups of people who are both moderate and extreme.
@NERV180 You can use any empty slogans that you want, but Israel is the only place in the Middle East where ARAB citizens actually have rights. And if you would take the time to look up what "apartheid" means, the root of the word, it is accurate about the Arabs- but not Israel. "Palestine" doesn't exist because they have consistently chosen war- jihad, and their goal is apartheid.
@jimmyjoemeeker If I had to pick a country to live in in the Middle East, I would pick Israel (not the West Bank/Gaza) over the other Arab states, but that still does not change the fact that in the West Bank, ethnic cleansing is taking place. Can you give me a better word for a state that supports the massive immigration of civilians into the militarily occupied area of another group of people?
@NERV180 The only ethnic cleansing that anyone is talking about are the Arabs trying to ethnically cleanse the Jews- again. Jews lived there throughout history until the Arabs ethnically cleansed them for 2 decades in the 20th century. And if Israel is ethnically cleansing the Arabs, then why is the Arab population growing?
@jimmyjoemeeker I am not talking about genocide. I am talking about ethnic cleansing, meaning detatching a group of people from their land and destroying their legitimate nationalist aspirations. The Israeli occupation, settlers, house demolitions and wall are taking Palestinian property, erasing their culture from the land and making a two state peace in the region impossible.
@NERV180 Ethnic cleansing is what the Arabs did to the Jews in Judea, Samaria, and Gaza in 1929, 1936, and finally, in 1948: They forcibly and violently expelled every last Jew from their homes, stealing everything, raping and pillaging in the process.
The Arabs could have fulfilled nationalist aspirations in 1948, but they were more interested in jihad. They have no legitimate anything now. They threw away all of their chances.
@jimmyjoemeeker Oh kinda like how Germany was more interested in war in WW1? Kinda like how Germany was more interested in Nazism in WW2? Kinda like how Italy was more interested in Facism in WW2? Just how Japan chose war in WW2 after being nuked once? Prices were paid for these transgressions, but the civilian populations that remained never lost their legitimacy.
You have no knowledge of history and you keep proving that again and again. Just as one example, see how many ethnic German civilians were expelled from Danzig (renamed Gdansk) and all of East Prussia, areas of Czechoslovakia, and elsewhere in Europe- never to return- millions and millions. Societies pay the price for the choices that they make. It's over. Get over it. Either be a good citizen where you are or go to jail.
@jimmyjoemeeker The settlers build roads and other things that the Palestinians cannot use. Can you think of a better word other than Aparthied when two civilian populations are living in the same area (West Bank), yet one is given more rights than the other by a governing body?
@NERV180 That's a lie. The Arabs can use all roads. There isn't 1 road that Israeli Arabs can't use, and non-Israeli Arabs are also allowed to use the roads. There was a recent court case that upheld that. But there are roads that the Arabs can use that are forbidden for the Jews. Yes, apartheid. WhenJews can use those roads too, it will be fair.
@jimmyjoemeeker I am not talking about the Israeli Arabs. I am talking about the Palestinians in the West Bank. Currently, in the West Bank, there are two groups of people, one a minority and another a majority. The minority has more rights than the majority. That is Apartheid.
@NERV180 Because the Arabs have consistently tried to deny the Jews their rights, including the right to live, the right to buy and own property (selling land to a Jew is a capital offense,and the death penalty has been enforced many times), the right to even be there, they themselves suffer.
Because the Arabs insist on apartheid:
ETYMOLOGY:
Afrikaans : Dutch apart, separate (from French à part, apart; see apart) + Dutch -heid, -hood
@jimmyjoemeeker Just answer the question because your a such a smarty who can look up etymologies. What do you call it, when two civilian populations inhabit the same land (West Bank), yet one group is given more power than the other by a governing body for the reason that they are of one culture and the other is not. Please tell me the word for that.
@NERV180 When the Arabs forcibly expelled every last Jew- ethnically cleansed them, stole their homes, and have done everything in their power to prevent the Jews from returning (apartheid), then the Arabs forfeited their own rights.
Besides, King Hussein of Jordan had granted them Jordanian citizenship, so let them go to Amman and whine.
@jimmyjoemeeker You can't just say the Arabs did this and that. When it comes to the creation of Israel, the Palestinian Arabs were essentially complete victims to Jewish Military violence, where as in other countries, over a 20 year span, Jews were harrassed in other Arab countries .
@NERV180 The Arabs were victims of their own violent jihad, which they lost. Nobody forced them to choose war instead of a peaceful state next to Israel. They made their choice and now it's time for them to move on.
@jimmyjoemeeker What do you mean that Apartheid is accurate about the Arabs and not Israel? In a sense, I agree because in the West Bank, the situation can be likened to Apartheid, but in Israel(excluding the West Bank and Gaza) there is no apartheid, though there is descrimination against the Arab citizens on both social and state levels.
@jimmyjoemeeker Palestine, in this case meaning the entire land West of Jordan, does not exist because the country was ethnically cleansed when Israel was created. If your going to give me some crap about how the Arab states ordered everyone to go, I can tell you it is fact that the Israelis to a significant enough extent, did forcefully evacuate plenty of villages themselves, probably more villages than the Arabs willingly fleed from, by calls or by fear from war.
@NERV180 It was the Arabs who ethnically cleansed the Jews from everywhere that they conquered; hebron, Gush Etzion, part of Jerusalem, and other locations. And yes, the Arabs did order them to go. They also lied about incidents like Deir Yassin. The Arabs who fought there even admit that they were cynically used by the Arabs.
@jimmyjoemeeker The Arabs used the Arabs. The Arabs here did this to the Arabs there. Speak in rediculous generalizations. Its easy to blame people when you speak like that. At least have the decency to refer to the Arab States, Palestinian local leadership, the Jordanian Military etc. When you fog up groups like that, it is the sign that you are trying to put blame where it doesnt fit rather than be specific about your accusations.
@NERV180 The Arabs, as a whole, including the Arab states and the would-have-been 'Palestinians' made the choice not only to reject United Nations Resolution 181, but also to go to war. They are to blame.
@jimmyjoemeeker Have you seen the map of the partition? It was an insane concept and it made little sense for the majority population to give more than half their country to people who weren't even in the country. Plus, Israel has violated every resolution after that. They have more resolutions on them than any other country, and have violated more of them than any other country.
@NERV180 Now you're just trying to justify the Arabs choosing war. I understand. The Jews got a Bantustan that was 2/3 desert without Jerusalem but the Arabs went to war. As to resolutions, the Arabs violated the first one. Obviously UN resolutions aren't important to them- until they lose.
@jimmyjoemeeker The big difference for your Bantustan comparison is that they willingly picked that. Those people moved to Palestine with the hopes that something like that would happen. For the Palestinians who lived their, they did not pick the Bantustands that they currently live in. Also, at the time, they had the impression that they would be able to make the desert habitable. Also, the very same can be said of Israel: UN resolutions only apply when they want them to.
@NERV180 Incorrect. If you look at the debates of the time among the Jewish leadership, they were very unhappy with having to settle for a Bantustan that was almost all desert and not even including Jerusalem, which had had more Jews than Muslims for as long as they had counted the population.
The Arabs wantonly violated United Nations Resolution 181, thereby forfeiting any legal right to anything, and went to war to destroy Bantustan Israel. After you dis the UN, you can't then hide behind it.
@jimmyjoemeeker They were unhappy in the way that a muggerwas unhappy that he got your wallet full of cash but not your credit card because you left it at home. Again, if violating a UN resolution is a forfeit of any legal right to anything, Israel has conceded this more than any country on the planet.
@NERV180 Actually, it was the Arabs who were the would-be muggers. They didn't succede. What the Arabs have done was violently reject the UN resolution that would have settled the issue peacefully, then once they lost the war they started, tried to hide behind the same United Nations that they rejected.
"The Arabs wantonly violated United Nations Resolution 181" You're kidding right? You stand behind the lunatic state of Israel and complain about someone violating a UN Resolution? No country in the world violates more UN Resolutions than the Israeli Regime. This isn't of fiction of my imagination. It's history. It`s documented. Everyone knows it. You`d better leave violating UN Resolutions out of your support for your criminal State of Israel.
@NERV180 response to jimmyjoemeeker: ``Please don`t make things up. Resolution 181 suggested Jews get 55% of the land. Palestinians 45%. Israel was not a `bantustan`. it was a contiguous portion. Connected south of Ramla. Connected south of Nazareth. Palestine: identical connection south of Ramla. identical connection south of Nazareth.
The only ``bantustan`: Palestine`s Jaffa south of Tel Aviv. Check Palestine now, or what was offered at Oslo, you will see real bantustans: Palestinian.
Please don`t make things up. Resolution 181 suggested (Resolutions are not law) Jews get 55% of the land. Palestinians 45%. Israel was not a `bantustan`. it was a contiguous portion. Connected south of Ramla. Connected south of Nazareth. Palestine: identical connection south of Ramla. identical connection south of Nazareth.
The only ``bantustan`: Palestine`s Jaffa south of Tel Aviv. Check Palestine now, or what was offered at Oslo, you will see real bantustans: Palestinian.
"The Arab States encouraged the Palestine Arabs to leave their homes temporarily in order to be out of the way of the Arab invasion armies."
Editorial, Falastin, February 19, 1949 (Amman)
"We will smash the country with our guns and obliterate every place the Jews seek shelter in. The Arabs should conduct their wives and children to safe areas until the fighting has died down."
Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri Said, as quoted by Nimr el Hawari "Sir Am Nakbah", 1952, Nazareth
@jimmyjoemeeker The first one is not first hand evidence and your second quote is completely rediculous. Just because someone said they should keep their "wives and children [in] safe areas" during the war, it is somehow implied that the Arab states told people to go miles and miles away from their country? Couldn't that safe area have been a basement, another villiage, a church, outskirt of the city etc.? It's certainly a double entendre, the more rediculous interpretation being on your end.
In retrospect, Palestinians of today admit that one of the most terrible mistakes they made back in 1948 was to over-report the details of the Deir Yassin massacre. "The goal was to mobilize Arab support for the Palestinians who were slaughtered by the Zionists but what really happened was that more and more Palestinians became scared and left their country," said Hazem Nusseibeh...
David Ben-Gurion: "We should prepare to go over to the offensive. Our aim is to smash Lebanon, Trans-Jordan, and Syria. The weak point is Lebanon, for the Moslem regime is artificial and easy for us to undermine. We shall establish a Christian state there, and then we will smash the Arab Legion, eliminate Trans-Jordan; Syria will fall to us. We then bomb and move on and take Port Said, Alexandria and Sinai."
"We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population."
"The Arab Higher Committee encouraged the refugees' flight from their homes in Jaffa, Haifa, and Jerusalem."
Broadcast by the Near East Arabic Broadcasting Station on April 3, 1949 (Cyprus)
"The 15th May, 1948, arrived ... On that day the mufti of Jerusalem appealed to the Arabs of Palestine to leave the country, because the Arab armies were about to enter and fight in their stead."
@jimmyjoemeeker Dr. Childers was intrigued enough to go on and examine the original (October 2) 1948 issue of the 'Economist.' It turned out that the report, which made vague reference to "announcements made over the air" by the Arab Higher Committee, had been written from Cyprus by a correspondent who used an uncorroborated Israeli source. As Hitchens remarks: "It hardly counted as evidence, let alone first-hand testimony."
@jimmyjoemeeker The second quote here is not a first hand account, but I'll investigate whether or not there is any record of the mufti of Jerusalem ever saying anything like this.
@jimmyjoemeeker "Examining every official Israeli statement about the Arab exodus, I was struck by the fact that no primary evidence of evacuation orders was ever produced. The charge, Israel claimed, was "documented"; but where were the documents? There had allegedly been Arab radio broadcasts ordering the evacuation; but no dates, names of stations, or texts of messages were ever cited.
"The fact that there are these refugees is the direct consequence of the act of the Arab states in opposing partition and the Jewish state. The Arab states agreed upon this policy unanimously and they must share in the solution of the problem." Emile Ghoury, secretary, Palestinian Arab Higher Committee, Beirut Telegraph Sept. 6, 1948.
"We brought destruction upon the refugees by calling on them to leave their homes."
Khaled al-Azam, Syrian Prime Minister in 1949 (memoirs, 1973)
@jimmyjoemeeker The first quote is irrelevant because it doesn't comment on the actualy broadcasts. All it says is that the Arabs essentially paid for not agreeing to the partition, but it doesn't actually say what happened to the refugees. Your second quote in this instance, it perhaps the best of your quotes. I'll have to get back to you on that one. You must admit, the deep problems with your other quotes certainly make this one less powerful.
@jimmyjoemeeker In Israel in 1958, as a guest of the Foreign Office and therefore doubly hopeful of serious assistance, I asked to be shown the proofs, I was assured they existed, and was promised them. None had been offered when I left, but I was again assured. I asked to have the material sent on to me. I am still waiting." -Dr. Childers
The mass evacuation, prompted partly by fear, partly by order of Arab leaders, left the Arab quarter of Haifa a ghost city. By withdrawing Arab workers their leaders hoped to paralyze Haifa." Time Magazine, May 3, 1948
Tha Palestinians... (fled) in fear of violence at the hands of Jews after 1948 - violence that did not occur, but rumors of which led to a mass exodus. It is important to note that the Jews did not forcibly expel Palestinians
@NERV180 Not to mention, Quaddafi is just flat out wrong in the same breath. There are unarguable instances of Jews forcibly expelling Palestinians. I hope we are past that argument. What we are arguing is whether or not there were these broadcasts, and whether or not they were the significant factor in the exodus.
@jimmyjoemeeker No, but he isn't someone I consider intelligent. You and I both know for a fact that he was wrong by insinuating that there wasn't any instance of Jews focibly expelling Palestinians.
@NERV180 Qadaffi didn't "insinuate": He stated a fact, and not out of love for Israel.
I know that there is a huge amount of proof that the Jews didn't expel the Arabs, which is why as of 2008, there were well over a million Arab citizens of Israel. However, the Arabs did in fact forcibly expel the Jews; all Jews from Judea, Samaria, and Gaza by 1948, and subsequently, from much of the Arab world.
@jimmyjoemeeker If you cannot be convinced that at least some degree of forceful explusion was commited by Jews against Arabs, your simply out of touch with reality. All I can tell you is research it because it is an undebatable fact. What is debatable is the scale and degree, and your side doesn't seem to be winning that one either.
@NERV180 Again, it was the Arabs who ethnically cleansed the Jews. That's a fact. That's why not one Jew was left in Judea, Samaria, or Gaza by the end of the 1948 war. That's why not one Jew was left in the half of Jerusalem that the Arabs illegally occupied- and the Jews had been the majority.
If Israel did try to expel the Arabs, they sure did a poor job, "forgetting" a million of them. So sorry, but there's way too much evidence that some, but not all, Arabs fled. Even they admit it.
@jimmyjoemeeker Forgetting a million of them? Are you refering to the million and a half or so Arabs who reside in Israel? In case you don't know, populations grow. There were a bit under 1 million Arabs were in the territory that is now Israel in 1947. An estimated 650,000-750,000 Palestinians became refugees. An estimated 156,000 remained. In my book, they weren't all that forgetful.
@jimmyjoemeeker A guarantee you that Arab explusions of Jews in Palestine, which is not a really talked about because of its insignificance, could not even near 650,000-750,000
@jimmyjoemeeker I'l say it once again that you are out of touch with reality. Look at Israeli historians. They do not support the idea that "there's way too much evidence that some, but not all, Arabs fled." Even the official Israeli version hardly comes close to resembling your version.
@jimmyjoemeeker I think Christopher Hitchens perfectly describes your conduct.
"Even though nobody has ever testified to having heard [the broadcasts], and even though no record of their transmission has ever been found, we shall hear of these orders and broadcasts again and again."
@NERV180 The Arabs who were in Deir Yassin admitted it was a lie:
'Interviews: 50th Anniversary Of Deir Yassin Massacre':
Ali Yousef Jaber, Abu Yousef:
I said to him: if you want to frame them, do not use Deir Yassin, or our women. Do not attribute to us something that never happened, otherwise this is infamy that our village and its people do not deserve...
@jimmyjoemeeker I don't particularly know a lot about Deir Yassin, but it certainly happened. I have heard that it has been intentionally exaggerated, but it defintly happened and the Israeli government admits it. Plus, there are other instances of Jewish violence against civilians during that period of time.
@NERV180 You don't know about Deir Yassin and yet you use it as a "proof"? It is the prime example of THE lie, and the villagers who were there admit it. If you Google the article that I quoted you'll see for yourself.
@jimmyjoemeeker Sorry, I made the mistake of believing that a tiny concession would give you the impression that I am not as much of a disillusioned fool as you probably think I am, but your beyond predictabe response justifies me to have that impression of you. I said that I don't know a lot about Deir Yassin, not that I don't know about it at all. And, as I said before, it is irrelevant because it is not the only example of Jewish violence at the time.
@NERV180 It's not an example at all of Jewish violence, but it is the best example of the Arab lie that became their centerpiece. Not even the lie about a "massacre" in Jenin in 2002 even approached the low level of that lie.
@jimmyjoemeeker Even if you don't believe this (which would put you out of touch with the reality of this conflict), can you tell me which state resisted international law by denying the refugees the right to return after the war?
@NERV180 The Arabs were victims of their own aggression. Israel accepted the Jewish refugees from Arab terror- nearly a million from across the Arab world. The Arabs need to own up to their own responsibilities and accept the blame- and he Arabs, that are theirs.
@jimmyjoemeeker Even if your going to say "they didnt accept the partition, so they had to pay." Your now advocating that a civilian population pays for the non-acceptance of a deal by the government? Blaming civilians, for government actions; sounds a bit like that word terrorism. And it isnt even like they didn't have good reason to resist the partition. Lets say France was "holy" to some immigrant population. You think that they would accept becoming a minority in their own country?
@jimmyjoemeeker Again, my initial comment was meant to intend, though it went way over your head, that the Palestinians and Israelis are both people who now both have legitimate claims to their part of the land. To refer to Palestinians in general as cockaroaches or barbaric trash, is discusting on your part. You should be ashamed. I hope that when you run into anyone calling Palestinians or Israelis cockaroaches, you tell them they're fucked up people, just like I'm doing to you now.
@NERV180 I don't refer to the Arabs (there's no such thing as "Palestine", so obviously there's no such thing as "Palestinians") as cockroaches, but they have behaved in a barbaric manner for so many decades. Dancing in the streets when a suicide bomber blows up an Israeli school bus or pizzeria is barbaric- at least in the civilized world.
The Arabs have no claims to the land. They forfeited any claims when they chose the gun. Move on.
@jimmyjoemeeker Oh an the Israeli's have never done a single barbaric thing? It is a fact that they expelled civilians from their homes. We can argue the scale, but it certainly happened and don't be so damn sure it was only a few incidents. Having children write on missles, continuing the cicle of violence is prettry barbaric to me. Setting up these rediculous outposts and settlements with the support of the government, making peace impossible, is pretty damn bad too if you ask me.
@NERV180 The Arabs admit that they fled in 1948. It was widely reported that their leaders told them to get out of the way so that they could destroy Israel. Those who didn't listen are citizens in the only country in the Middle East where people have rights.
There is no "circle of violence". If the jihadis stop trying to murder, nobody else will die. They were doing it even when there were no "settlements", and are doing now in Gaza, which has no "settlements". Jihadis always have a "reason".
@jimmyjoemeeker "Israel opened up part of its archives in the 1980s for investigation by historians. This coincided with the emergence of various Israeli historians, called New Historians, who favored a more critical analysis of Israel's history. The most famous scholar of this group, Benny Morris, concludes that Jewish military attacks were the main direct cause of the exodus, followed by Arab fear due to the fall of a nearby town, Arab fear of impending attack, and expulsions."
@jimmyjoemeeker How did I forget? Back in the good ol' days of the Jewish Gangs in Palestine, there were Jews who would blow up marketplaces full of civilians.
@jimmyjoemeeker i have an idea; why dont u just piss off since i bet u would be like a cockroach if u were in any palestinian's place in gaza. seriously what would u do??
If I were in their place I would be a jihadi cockroach like they are? Good thing I'm not in their place. So let's break out the Raid and clean up Israel of all jihadi cockroaches.
I wouldn't be in their place because I would have made peace and had myself a state. They're too hell-bent on getting their 72 year old virgins.
if i read this comments i get tears in my eyes. how can this israelis sereosly believe what they do can be good and right. how can they terrorize these people after what was done to the jews in the holocaust. but they never went to places like jenin or gaza and they dont want to see or hear how peole are getting terrorized, not only physically but also mental.
i´m not palestinian but my heart is with you palestine! and i was in palestine and israel and saw what is happening with my own eyes.
It are the palestinian people who make Palestine, I am not Palestinian, but i support Palestine, all these people who read your comments know you are just a peace of shit, so they dont take you serious
thats what your naive voice says, look at america, hollywoodstars are convicting to Islam, and we have no future? The country where most of the moslim-hating people live, is transforming to a place where people convict to our religion. We dont have a future? give us 20 years, and even your children will be muslims, and there is nothing you can do...
You dumb jihadi; Palestine never existed and never will exist. You violent jihadi cavepeople would all starve todeath if you didn't have oil under your feet, and even that won't save you from yourselves.
As to converts to Islam, Hollywood stars are converting? Wow. You sure are getting the dregs- and not many.
In 20 years Europe will have sent your sorry asses back to your god-cursed countries and you'll be dying of starvation- and the rest of the world will celebrate.
Israel is real. It's a country. The land is the land of the nation of Israel, which is also very real. The racist imperialists are the jihadis, who think that the entire world belongs to them.
Thatincludes the would-have-been Palies, who are a recent, barbaric invention.
tu parli di cose che non conosci e non sei obbligato ad esprimere un commento (thank god)
se vieni a Roma (sempre che tu sappia dove si trovi)
ti accompagno a Ramallah a vivere la situazione ma forse hai il cervello troppo anabolizzato per fare una cosa utile per la tua evoluzione. e Dio lasciamolo da parte che e' rimasto arretrato con il suo lavoro.
hai qualche difficolta' a capire, cerco di spiegarmi meglio: io a roma ci vivo e in palestina e israele ci sono stato 6 volte e conosco la realta' della zona. Non farti influenzare da quello che dicono i mass media e vedi con i tuoi occhi.
Solo allora potrai farti un idea. non sono contro gli ebrei ma contro i soprusi perpetrati dai potenti chiunque essi siano. peace and love.
You are the one who doesn't understand. You might live in Rome. You might have visited Israel, but you have never visited "Palestine", because there's no such place as "Palestine".
It has nothing to do with the media. It has to do with reality. Because the Arabs want violence and war and terror- not peace and love, "Palestine" doesn't exist and will never exist.
Every time it could have come into existence, they violently chose not to.
It's not an issue of "if". It's a fact: "Palestine" doesn't exist. There's no such country, has no land, no currency, no stamps, no history, and no future.
And the issue of the UN is very funny, because the reason why "Palestine" doesn't exist is because the would-have-been "Palestinians" didn't accept UN 181, which established Israel and would have established them.
The first ones who made terrorist attacks in Israel were the Arabs- even before their riots and terror in 1920-1921. Barbarians
@jimmyjoemeeker you would do the same if u had pride and someone tried to take your land. its something called emotion and pride and love towards ur assets (land family and so on) but, of course, many careless people out there would call the ppl who want their things back "terrorists"
It wasn't their land. It never was their land. Yasser Arafat himself was born and grew up in Egypt. The problem is that you jihadis think that everything is yours, and because you're so greedy and prone to violence, you keep shooting yourselves in the foot.
Keep it up and there will be nothing left for you. I for one won't care. You did it to yourselves.
talk about barbarians, the US is the most barbaric state in the world. USA murdered tens of thousnads of mexican people during the mexican- US war just to satisfie the USA's and the americans crave for more land . and the barbaric atrocities by the US dont stop there.
I never fail to notice how you jihadi cave men have to go back in history to find our atrocities, just like you have to go WAY back in history to find anything positive about Muzzies.
And no matter how far back you go, there's no such thing as a nation called the "Palestinians" or a country called "Palestine".
By the way, I have some Mexican blood in me- and more Native American blood, hijo de puta.
i am not muslim, stupid idiot, i am cathlic. and if you want i cant name some recent atrocoties, for example, the police brutality in the USA is one, the bombing of baghdad, where the US murdered thousand of civillians with no prejudice and with no concern for who was the figthers, and who where the civillians. it doesnt matter if you have mexican blood in you, it does not make you a mexican , your nation still ruined mexico and because of usa, mexico is the way it is today.
There have been 1359 murdered and 3212 wounded in the name of Allah has been in the past 2 months in 283 attacks in Afghanistan, Algeria, Bangladesh, Dagestan, Egypt, France, Germany, India, Ingushetia, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Kenya, Nigeria, Pakistan, Philippines, Somalia, Sudan, Thailand, and Yemen.
And in Iraq, it is almost totally Muslims murdering Muslims.
Yes, it's Islam.
Obviously, the civilized world will not accept this, even if you will.
count all the murders in detroit, usa, los angeles, and every other city in USA, most of the murderers are christian, therefore, folowing your logic, all christians are evil savages. lets not forget of all the children christian USA soldiers have raped in the iraq war, or the number of countrys christian USA bomber pilots have flow over and bombed in the name of GOOOOOOOOOD, and GEORGE DUBYA' BUSH, its sick that your country attacked and cut a nation in half in the name of the lord
The murders in western cities are not about religion. They're about other things. And we, as civilized societies, don't accept murder as legitimate.
Muzzies, on the other hand, murder in the name of Allah- including murdering other Muslims in the name of Allah: And their "cultures" glorify it.
We don't fight against the jihadi barbarians in the name of God. We fight in the name of civilization, to prevent them from murdering in the name of Allah.
Who says that I'm white? People of every race, color and creed are being murdered by your death cult called Islam- everywhere on earth.
As to Japan, it wasn't in the name of Christianity and it wasn't in the name of white folks. It was because Japan started a war. They did it against us, against China, against the Philippines, against everyone.
You Muzzies are doing it on an even greater scale now, and that includes in your barbaric Islamic Republic of Mauritania. Why don't you go back there?
again, you go wit the racist xenophobic name calling, shows your maturity. i have said i am not muslim, but you are a stupid americunt, so you cannot think of anything else to say, some, Mr. genocide, when are you going to return those millions of square miles you stole from mexico? when are you going to acknoladge the may lai ,massacre? islam the death cult? sorry, but your nation is nation of death and genocides, your nation is far from perfect, you americunts are even
so everytime, i heard george dubya say shit as, "may god guide us" and other things along those lines, the war is not about religion. when usa tries to ethnicaly clense iraq and impose a NEW religeon, it is all about religeon. for example, the united states bombed mousqes, and sends christian "missionarys" and you say every muslim kills in the name of a religeon, with out any fact to your ignorant comment, so i will say every white, black, kills in the name of god, and money, and Mcdonalds.
Jimmy Carter also says that- much more, but in neither case is it the same, or even close to the same, as your jihadis.
If we wanted to ethnically cleanse Iraq, there would be nothing left of Iraq. Again, haji-boy, it is the MUSLIMS in Iraq who are murdering each other by the thousands, and it was Saddam Hussein who was responsible for over a million dead; in Iraq, Iran, Kuwait, Saudi, and even in Israel with his Scuds back in 1991.
ONLY Muslims are mudering folks everywhere for Allah.
scared of universal health care. to be honest, i dont give a fuck about the united states, if a school full of white american children where to blow up tomorrow, i would not even shed a tear, because you americans deserve it. you nation has invaded countless nations, raped millions of children, and you still try to be hyupocritical and criticize islam? pathetic, gives me another reason to hate americunts
Millions of Christians didn't visit Bethlehem last week, moron. Read the news. There were thousands.
Bethlehem is a Jewish city that is presently occupied mostly by Muslims. Do a Google search for "O, Muslim town of Bethlehem..." and you'll see. I saw when I was there.
Jesus was a Jew from Bethlehem in Judaea .
By the way, you are the Jews' dogs, not the other way around (as your YouTube page says). They own you.
if ur saying all this honestly, then u know nothing. bbc cnn and all those are owned by jews. i doubt theyd be telling ppl the truth. and yes logically the palestinian state no longer exists now since the jews and their america took it, but palestine will come back...
Another jihadi conspiracy theorist. The BBC is a publicly owned corporation that operates under a Royal Charter issued by the British Crown and its operations are overseen by twelve Governors who are appointed by the Crown on the advice of the Government. There are no Jews in their leadership, but there is someone named Samir Shah.
CNN is a subsidiary of Turner Broadcasting Systems, which is owned by Time Warner, a public company.
And there was NEVER a "Palestinian" state in history. Never.
"The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity... There is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct Palestinian people to oppose Zionism."
all i know that everything have been done on this earth will be writen in the history book , so i realy dont care if i die terrorist or die like a normal human but all i know that only god can judge if you are a terrorist or realy human
Palestine is Innocent!! war on terorism? Israel has no life, the raids that happened today must not be repeated!! 200 dead.155 in pieces, and another 200 injured. What is this massacre!! how can this happen and the world remain silent!@!@!@ how will demonstrations help!! WAKE UP!! INNCOENT LIVES ARE DYING FOR NO CAUSE!!!!!WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!
@sharaaby You do realise not all Palestinians are Muslim, right? And that arabs in Israel, the descendants of those who managed to stay in 1948 Palestine are horribly discriminated against? From your comment you know nothing about this struggle and only care about condemning others who don't fit your narrow world view - it seems like you're the hypocrite.
qmcomputer 3 months ago in playlist work_tunes
seriously Israel thinks their god..
aionplayer123 3 months ago
Adrenaline-pumping track...should be assigned as a national anthem!
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q basa con el mundo porq la gente no se quega mira como begaban el niño no tienen terecho fueraaaaa islael y biba palestine (Free Palestine(وكانت إسرائيل فلسطين حرة
tarik199513 5 months ago
q basa con el mundo porq la gente no se quega mira como begaban el niño no tie
nen terecho fueraaaaa islael y biba palestine (Free Palestine(وكانت إسرائيل فلسطين حرة
tarik199513 5 months ago
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who is "we"?and what do "we" rule?
imperialLily 6 months ago
zionists and ignorants r the DIRTof this society!
imperialLily 7 months ago
this d.a.m group are arab from israel and they dont believe in the quran they drink alcohole and look like americans they are just want to make money with there music they dont care about the arabs they are hipocrites
sharaaby 9 months ago
ISLAM shall win!! ALLAHU AKBAR
111Intifada 10 months ago
gaaaaaaaaaaaaay
nablus0is0nablus 1 year ago
when will we realize we all come from the SAME PLANET!!
i love you all, even if you hate me.
thelettertsix 1 year ago 10
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Trust me, this love you talk about, every Palestinian have it the heart..
The problem is these sons of bitchez who turns the image upside down..
everyone knows what im talkin about that the world is turning upside down .. Wrong is right these days. ( That is what the media wants
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@thelettertsix i dont hate ya =)
kupaksulja 8 months ago
great song
3aladal3ona 1 year ago
Well, I dont think there is a Palestinian Nation at all... I think its a Colonial invention Palestinian Nation. I think there is an Arab Nation... I think that until the end of the 19TH century, Palestine was the South of Great Syria.
Arab Israel Member of Knesset, Azmi Bishara, on Israeli TV
jimmyjoemeeker 1 year ago
very good but sad video. i just think that the subtitles should be clearer
:)
kkkkhaledddd 1 year ago
destroy all religions and kill all gods - this is only way to peace
chujwico 1 year ago
@chujwico If your not aware, but this conflict is more than just religion.
NERV180 1 year ago
Keep the faith! One day our dream of the free Palestine will become true.
MelchiorFinland 1 year ago
One of the best songs I have ever heard. Really good! I love Palestine with all my soul.
MelchiorFinland 1 year ago
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You can't love "Palestine" because there's no such thing. You should see a psychologist about your delusions.
jimmyjoemeeker 1 year ago
@jimmyjoemeeker Are you seriously unable to understand what someone saying "I love Palestine" means? Your really a stupid person.
NERV180 1 year ago
@NERV180 Saying "I love Palestine" is really stupid because there's no such thing. It's like saying "I love Santa Claus", except that Old Saint Nick isn't a violent barbaric jihadi piece of trash.
jimmyjoemeeker 1 year ago
@jimmyjoemeeker Palestine was the historic name of a strip of land, and the Palestinians a the group of people who used to live there as a majority. By loving Palestine, they are celebrating what they see as their right to all or part of the land. It isn't all that complicated. Your criticism of people saying that they love Palestine is either founded in willfull ignorance, or an immense amount of genuine stupidity.
NERV180 1 year ago
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"It is only for tactical reasons that we carefully stress our Palestinian identity, for it is in the national interest of the Arabs to encourage a separate Palestinian identity to counter Zionism: The founding of a Palestinian state is a new tool in the ongoing battle against Israel..."
Zohair Mohsin, member of PLO Executive Council, to the Dutch newspaper Trouw, March 31, 1977
jimmyjoemeeker 1 year ago
@jimmyjoemeeker You think I haven't seen that quote of yours before? I have. All that says is that Palestinian nationalism is relatively new, just like Zionism. It doesn't change the fact that the people claiming to be Palestinians lived on that land for generation upon generation where as Zionists had not until they immigrated.
NERV180 1 year ago
@jimmyjoemeeker In your comment, you've equated Palestine with violent, barbaric, jihadi trash. Would it be fair of me to paint Israel as nothing more than a sick and radical state founded on ethnic cleansing and aparthied? Obliviously, Palestine and Israel are not terrorist organizations (though their governments may be headed by terrorists), but rather, words/countries that represent larger groups of people who are both moderate and extreme.
NERV180 1 year ago
@NERV180 You can use any empty slogans that you want, but Israel is the only place in the Middle East where ARAB citizens actually have rights. And if you would take the time to look up what "apartheid" means, the root of the word, it is accurate about the Arabs- but not Israel. "Palestine" doesn't exist because they have consistently chosen war- jihad, and their goal is apartheid.
jimmyjoemeeker 1 year ago
@jimmyjoemeeker If I had to pick a country to live in in the Middle East, I would pick Israel (not the West Bank/Gaza) over the other Arab states, but that still does not change the fact that in the West Bank, ethnic cleansing is taking place. Can you give me a better word for a state that supports the massive immigration of civilians into the militarily occupied area of another group of people?
NERV180 1 year ago
@NERV180 The only ethnic cleansing that anyone is talking about are the Arabs trying to ethnically cleanse the Jews- again. Jews lived there throughout history until the Arabs ethnically cleansed them for 2 decades in the 20th century. And if Israel is ethnically cleansing the Arabs, then why is the Arab population growing?
jimmyjoemeeker 1 year ago
@jimmyjoemeeker I am not talking about genocide. I am talking about ethnic cleansing, meaning detatching a group of people from their land and destroying their legitimate nationalist aspirations. The Israeli occupation, settlers, house demolitions and wall are taking Palestinian property, erasing their culture from the land and making a two state peace in the region impossible.
NERV180 1 year ago
@NERV180 Ethnic cleansing is what the Arabs did to the Jews in Judea, Samaria, and Gaza in 1929, 1936, and finally, in 1948: They forcibly and violently expelled every last Jew from their homes, stealing everything, raping and pillaging in the process.
The Arabs could have fulfilled nationalist aspirations in 1948, but they were more interested in jihad. They have no legitimate anything now. They threw away all of their chances.
jimmyjoemeeker 1 year ago
@jimmyjoemeeker Oh kinda like how Germany was more interested in war in WW1? Kinda like how Germany was more interested in Nazism in WW2? Kinda like how Italy was more interested in Facism in WW2? Just how Japan chose war in WW2 after being nuked once? Prices were paid for these transgressions, but the civilian populations that remained never lost their legitimacy.
NERV180 1 year ago
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You have no knowledge of history and you keep proving that again and again. Just as one example, see how many ethnic German civilians were expelled from Danzig (renamed Gdansk) and all of East Prussia, areas of Czechoslovakia, and elsewhere in Europe- never to return- millions and millions. Societies pay the price for the choices that they make. It's over. Get over it. Either be a good citizen where you are or go to jail.
jimmyjoemeeker 1 year ago
@jimmyjoemeeker The settlers build roads and other things that the Palestinians cannot use. Can you think of a better word other than Aparthied when two civilian populations are living in the same area (West Bank), yet one is given more rights than the other by a governing body?
NERV180 1 year ago
@NERV180 That's a lie. The Arabs can use all roads. There isn't 1 road that Israeli Arabs can't use, and non-Israeli Arabs are also allowed to use the roads. There was a recent court case that upheld that. But there are roads that the Arabs can use that are forbidden for the Jews. Yes, apartheid. WhenJews can use those roads too, it will be fair.
jimmyjoemeeker 1 year ago
@jimmyjoemeeker I am not talking about the Israeli Arabs. I am talking about the Palestinians in the West Bank. Currently, in the West Bank, there are two groups of people, one a minority and another a majority. The minority has more rights than the majority. That is Apartheid.
NERV180 1 year ago
@NERV180 Because the Arabs have consistently tried to deny the Jews their rights, including the right to live, the right to buy and own property (selling land to a Jew is a capital offense,and the death penalty has been enforced many times), the right to even be there, they themselves suffer.
Because the Arabs insist on apartheid:
ETYMOLOGY:
Afrikaans : Dutch apart, separate (from French à part, apart; see apart) + Dutch -heid, -hood
They themselves pay the price.
And they deserve to.
jimmyjoemeeker 1 year ago
@jimmyjoemeeker Just answer the question because your a such a smarty who can look up etymologies. What do you call it, when two civilian populations inhabit the same land (West Bank), yet one group is given more power than the other by a governing body for the reason that they are of one culture and the other is not. Please tell me the word for that.
NERV180 1 year ago
@NERV180 When the Arabs forcibly expelled every last Jew- ethnically cleansed them, stole their homes, and have done everything in their power to prevent the Jews from returning (apartheid), then the Arabs forfeited their own rights.
Besides, King Hussein of Jordan had granted them Jordanian citizenship, so let them go to Amman and whine.
jimmyjoemeeker 1 year ago
@jimmyjoemeeker You can't just say the Arabs did this and that. When it comes to the creation of Israel, the Palestinian Arabs were essentially complete victims to Jewish Military violence, where as in other countries, over a 20 year span, Jews were harrassed in other Arab countries .
NERV180 1 year ago
@NERV180 The Arabs were victims of their own violent jihad, which they lost. Nobody forced them to choose war instead of a peaceful state next to Israel. They made their choice and now it's time for them to move on.
jimmyjoemeeker 1 year ago
@jimmyjoemeeker What do you mean that Apartheid is accurate about the Arabs and not Israel? In a sense, I agree because in the West Bank, the situation can be likened to Apartheid, but in Israel(excluding the West Bank and Gaza) there is no apartheid, though there is descrimination against the Arab citizens on both social and state levels.
NERV180 1 year ago
@jimmyjoemeeker Palestine, in this case meaning the entire land West of Jordan, does not exist because the country was ethnically cleansed when Israel was created. If your going to give me some crap about how the Arab states ordered everyone to go, I can tell you it is fact that the Israelis to a significant enough extent, did forcefully evacuate plenty of villages themselves, probably more villages than the Arabs willingly fleed from, by calls or by fear from war.
NERV180 1 year ago
@NERV180 It was the Arabs who ethnically cleansed the Jews from everywhere that they conquered; hebron, Gush Etzion, part of Jerusalem, and other locations. And yes, the Arabs did order them to go. They also lied about incidents like Deir Yassin. The Arabs who fought there even admit that they were cynically used by the Arabs.
jimmyjoemeeker 1 year ago
@jimmyjoemeeker The Arabs used the Arabs. The Arabs here did this to the Arabs there. Speak in rediculous generalizations. Its easy to blame people when you speak like that. At least have the decency to refer to the Arab States, Palestinian local leadership, the Jordanian Military etc. When you fog up groups like that, it is the sign that you are trying to put blame where it doesnt fit rather than be specific about your accusations.
NERV180 1 year ago
@NERV180 The Arabs, as a whole, including the Arab states and the would-have-been 'Palestinians' made the choice not only to reject United Nations Resolution 181, but also to go to war. They are to blame.
jimmyjoemeeker 1 year ago
@jimmyjoemeeker Have you seen the map of the partition? It was an insane concept and it made little sense for the majority population to give more than half their country to people who weren't even in the country. Plus, Israel has violated every resolution after that. They have more resolutions on them than any other country, and have violated more of them than any other country.
NERV180 1 year ago
@NERV180 Now you're just trying to justify the Arabs choosing war. I understand. The Jews got a Bantustan that was 2/3 desert without Jerusalem but the Arabs went to war. As to resolutions, the Arabs violated the first one. Obviously UN resolutions aren't important to them- until they lose.
jimmyjoemeeker 1 year ago
@jimmyjoemeeker The big difference for your Bantustan comparison is that they willingly picked that. Those people moved to Palestine with the hopes that something like that would happen. For the Palestinians who lived their, they did not pick the Bantustands that they currently live in. Also, at the time, they had the impression that they would be able to make the desert habitable. Also, the very same can be said of Israel: UN resolutions only apply when they want them to.
NERV180 1 year ago
@NERV180 Incorrect. If you look at the debates of the time among the Jewish leadership, they were very unhappy with having to settle for a Bantustan that was almost all desert and not even including Jerusalem, which had had more Jews than Muslims for as long as they had counted the population.
The Arabs wantonly violated United Nations Resolution 181, thereby forfeiting any legal right to anything, and went to war to destroy Bantustan Israel. After you dis the UN, you can't then hide behind it.
jimmyjoemeeker 1 year ago
@jimmyjoemeeker They were unhappy in the way that a muggerwas unhappy that he got your wallet full of cash but not your credit card because you left it at home. Again, if violating a UN resolution is a forfeit of any legal right to anything, Israel has conceded this more than any country on the planet.
NERV180 1 year ago
@NERV180 Actually, it was the Arabs who were the would-be muggers. They didn't succede. What the Arabs have done was violently reject the UN resolution that would have settled the issue peacefully, then once they lost the war they started, tried to hide behind the same United Nations that they rejected.
Tough luck.
jimmyjoemeeker 1 year ago
@jimmyjoemeeker
"The Arabs wantonly violated United Nations Resolution 181" You're kidding right? You stand behind the lunatic state of Israel and complain about someone violating a UN Resolution? No country in the world violates more UN Resolutions than the Israeli Regime. This isn't of fiction of my imagination. It's history. It`s documented. Everyone knows it. You`d better leave violating UN Resolutions out of your support for your criminal State of Israel.
badgeless 1 year ago 3
@jimmyjoemeeker nobody lost Jerusalem. It was to be an internationally governed area. a holy city to Arabs and Jews.
badgeless 1 year ago
@badgeless now just for jews they dont let us get in
arabouss 1 year ago
@NERV180 response to jimmyjoemeeker: ``Please don`t make things up. Resolution 181 suggested Jews get 55% of the land. Palestinians 45%. Israel was not a `bantustan`. it was a contiguous portion. Connected south of Ramla. Connected south of Nazareth. Palestine: identical connection south of Ramla. identical connection south of Nazareth.
The only ``bantustan`: Palestine`s Jaffa south of Tel Aviv. Check Palestine now, or what was offered at Oslo, you will see real bantustans: Palestinian.
badgeless 1 year ago
@jimmyjoemeeker
Please don`t make things up. Resolution 181 suggested (Resolutions are not law) Jews get 55% of the land. Palestinians 45%. Israel was not a `bantustan`. it was a contiguous portion. Connected south of Ramla. Connected south of Nazareth. Palestine: identical connection south of Ramla. identical connection south of Nazareth.
The only ``bantustan`: Palestine`s Jaffa south of Tel Aviv. Check Palestine now, or what was offered at Oslo, you will see real bantustans: Palestinian.
badgeless 1 year ago
@jimmyjoemeeker
UN Resolutions obviously are not important to Israel, the violators of more than any country in the world. ever. since the UN began.
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@jimmyjoemeeker For example, who told the Palestinians to leave? Who told them? What villages were contacted? What exactly did they say to them?
NERV180 1 year ago
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"The Arab States encouraged the Palestine Arabs to leave their homes temporarily in order to be out of the way of the Arab invasion armies."
Editorial, Falastin, February 19, 1949 (Amman)
"We will smash the country with our guns and obliterate every place the Jews seek shelter in. The Arabs should conduct their wives and children to safe areas until the fighting has died down."
Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri Said, as quoted by Nimr el Hawari "Sir Am Nakbah", 1952, Nazareth
jimmyjoemeeker 1 year ago
@jimmyjoemeeker The first one is not first hand evidence and your second quote is completely rediculous. Just because someone said they should keep their "wives and children [in] safe areas" during the war, it is somehow implied that the Arab states told people to go miles and miles away from their country? Couldn't that safe area have been a basement, another villiage, a church, outskirt of the city etc.? It's certainly a double entendre, the more rediculous interpretation being on your end.
NERV180 1 year ago
@NERV180 Again from the Deir Yassin lie article:
In retrospect, Palestinians of today admit that one of the most terrible mistakes they made back in 1948 was to over-report the details of the Deir Yassin massacre. "The goal was to mobilize Arab support for the Palestinians who were slaughtered by the Zionists but what really happened was that more and more Palestinians became scared and left their country," said Hazem Nusseibeh...
jimmyjoemeeker 1 year ago
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David Ben-Gurion: "We should prepare to go over to the offensive. Our aim is to smash Lebanon, Trans-Jordan, and Syria. The weak point is Lebanon, for the Moslem regime is artificial and easy for us to undermine. We shall establish a Christian state there, and then we will smash the Arab Legion, eliminate Trans-Jordan; Syria will fall to us. We then bomb and move on and take Port Said, Alexandria and Sinai."
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@jimmyjoemeeker
David Ben-Gurion
"We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population."
badgeless 1 year ago
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"The Arab Higher Committee encouraged the refugees' flight from their homes in Jaffa, Haifa, and Jerusalem."
Broadcast by the Near East Arabic Broadcasting Station on April 3, 1949 (Cyprus)
"The 15th May, 1948, arrived ... On that day the mufti of Jerusalem appealed to the Arabs of Palestine to leave the country, because the Arab armies were about to enter and fight in their stead."
- The Cairo daily Akhbar el Yom, Oct. 12, 1963
jimmyjoemeeker 1 year ago
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@jimmyjoemeeker Dr. Childers was intrigued enough to go on and examine the original (October 2) 1948 issue of the 'Economist.' It turned out that the report, which made vague reference to "announcements made over the air" by the Arab Higher Committee, had been written from Cyprus by a correspondent who used an uncorroborated Israeli source. As Hitchens remarks: "It hardly counted as evidence, let alone first-hand testimony."
NERV180 1 year ago
@jimmyjoemeeker The second quote here is not a first hand account, but I'll investigate whether or not there is any record of the mufti of Jerusalem ever saying anything like this.
NERV180 1 year ago
@jimmyjoemeeker "Examining every official Israeli statement about the Arab exodus, I was struck by the fact that no primary evidence of evacuation orders was ever produced. The charge, Israel claimed, was "documented"; but where were the documents? There had allegedly been Arab radio broadcasts ordering the evacuation; but no dates, names of stations, or texts of messages were ever cited.
NERV180 1 year ago
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"The fact that there are these refugees is the direct consequence of the act of the Arab states in opposing partition and the Jewish state. The Arab states agreed upon this policy unanimously and they must share in the solution of the problem." Emile Ghoury, secretary, Palestinian Arab Higher Committee, Beirut Telegraph Sept. 6, 1948.
"We brought destruction upon the refugees by calling on them to leave their homes."
Khaled al-Azam, Syrian Prime Minister in 1949 (memoirs, 1973)
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NERV180 1 year ago
@jimmyjoemeeker The first quote is irrelevant because it doesn't comment on the actualy broadcasts. All it says is that the Arabs essentially paid for not agreeing to the partition, but it doesn't actually say what happened to the refugees. Your second quote in this instance, it perhaps the best of your quotes. I'll have to get back to you on that one. You must admit, the deep problems with your other quotes certainly make this one less powerful.
NERV180 1 year ago
@jimmyjoemeeker In Israel in 1958, as a guest of the Foreign Office and therefore doubly hopeful of serious assistance, I asked to be shown the proofs, I was assured they existed, and was promised them. None had been offered when I left, but I was again assured. I asked to have the material sent on to me. I am still waiting." -Dr. Childers
NERV180 1 year ago
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The mass evacuation, prompted partly by fear, partly by order of Arab leaders, left the Arab quarter of Haifa a ghost city. By withdrawing Arab workers their leaders hoped to paralyze Haifa." Time Magazine, May 3, 1948
Tha Palestinians... (fled) in fear of violence at the hands of Jews after 1948 - violence that did not occur, but rumors of which led to a mass exodus. It is important to note that the Jews did not forcibly expel Palestinians
Muammar Qaddafi in IHT, Jan. 22, 09
jimmyjoemeeker 1 year ago
@jimmyjoemeeker Yeah, because some Time Magazine quote and quote from Muammar Qaddafi are really scholarly sources or first hand evidence.
NERV180 1 year ago
@NERV180 Not to mention, Quaddafi is just flat out wrong in the same breath. There are unarguable instances of Jews forcibly expelling Palestinians. I hope we are past that argument. What we are arguing is whether or not there were these broadcasts, and whether or not they were the significant factor in the exodus.
NERV180 1 year ago
@NERV180 Even Qaddafi admits that your big lie was a big lie. Do you think he is a supporter of israel?
jimmyjoemeeker 1 year ago
@jimmyjoemeeker No, but he isn't someone I consider intelligent. You and I both know for a fact that he was wrong by insinuating that there wasn't any instance of Jews focibly expelling Palestinians.
NERV180 1 year ago
@NERV180 Qadaffi didn't "insinuate": He stated a fact, and not out of love for Israel.
I know that there is a huge amount of proof that the Jews didn't expel the Arabs, which is why as of 2008, there were well over a million Arab citizens of Israel. However, the Arabs did in fact forcibly expel the Jews; all Jews from Judea, Samaria, and Gaza by 1948, and subsequently, from much of the Arab world.
jimmyjoemeeker 1 year ago
@jimmyjoemeeker If you cannot be convinced that at least some degree of forceful explusion was commited by Jews against Arabs, your simply out of touch with reality. All I can tell you is research it because it is an undebatable fact. What is debatable is the scale and degree, and your side doesn't seem to be winning that one either.
NERV180 1 year ago
@NERV180 Again, it was the Arabs who ethnically cleansed the Jews. That's a fact. That's why not one Jew was left in Judea, Samaria, or Gaza by the end of the 1948 war. That's why not one Jew was left in the half of Jerusalem that the Arabs illegally occupied- and the Jews had been the majority.
If Israel did try to expel the Arabs, they sure did a poor job, "forgetting" a million of them. So sorry, but there's way too much evidence that some, but not all, Arabs fled. Even they admit it.
jimmyjoemeeker 1 year ago
@jimmyjoemeeker Forgetting a million of them? Are you refering to the million and a half or so Arabs who reside in Israel? In case you don't know, populations grow. There were a bit under 1 million Arabs were in the territory that is now Israel in 1947. An estimated 650,000-750,000 Palestinians became refugees. An estimated 156,000 remained. In my book, they weren't all that forgetful.
NERV180 1 year ago
@jimmyjoemeeker A guarantee you that Arab explusions of Jews in Palestine, which is not a really talked about because of its insignificance, could not even near 650,000-750,000
NERV180 1 year ago
@jimmyjoemeeker I'l say it once again that you are out of touch with reality. Look at Israeli historians. They do not support the idea that "there's way too much evidence that some, but not all, Arabs fled." Even the official Israeli version hardly comes close to resembling your version.
NERV180 1 year ago
@jimmyjoemeeker I think Christopher Hitchens perfectly describes your conduct.
"Even though nobody has ever testified to having heard [the broadcasts], and even though no record of their transmission has ever been found, we shall hear of these orders and broadcasts again and again."
NERV180 1 year ago
@jimmyjoemeeker For example, you cannot deny what happened in Deir Yassin.
NERV180 1 year ago
@NERV180 The Arabs who were in Deir Yassin admitted it was a lie:
'Interviews: 50th Anniversary Of Deir Yassin Massacre':
Ali Yousef Jaber, Abu Yousef:
I said to him: if you want to frame them, do not use Deir Yassin, or our women. Do not attribute to us something that never happened, otherwise this is infamy that our village and its people do not deserve...
jimmyjoemeeker 1 year ago
@jimmyjoemeeker I don't particularly know a lot about Deir Yassin, but it certainly happened. I have heard that it has been intentionally exaggerated, but it defintly happened and the Israeli government admits it. Plus, there are other instances of Jewish violence against civilians during that period of time.
NERV180 1 year ago
@NERV180 You don't know about Deir Yassin and yet you use it as a "proof"? It is the prime example of THE lie, and the villagers who were there admit it. If you Google the article that I quoted you'll see for yourself.
jimmyjoemeeker 1 year ago
@jimmyjoemeeker Sorry, I made the mistake of believing that a tiny concession would give you the impression that I am not as much of a disillusioned fool as you probably think I am, but your beyond predictabe response justifies me to have that impression of you. I said that I don't know a lot about Deir Yassin, not that I don't know about it at all. And, as I said before, it is irrelevant because it is not the only example of Jewish violence at the time.
NERV180 1 year ago
@NERV180 It's not an example at all of Jewish violence, but it is the best example of the Arab lie that became their centerpiece. Not even the lie about a "massacre" in Jenin in 2002 even approached the low level of that lie.
jimmyjoemeeker 1 year ago
@jimmyjoemeeker Deir Yassin: ``It is the prime example of THE lie,``
Benny Morris - you know who he is - respected - historian - Zionist.
When asked the question:
``how many acts of Israeli massacre were perpetrated in 1948?``
Morris (read carefully please):
"The worst cases were Saliha (70-80 killed), Deir Yassin (100-110), Lod (250), Dawayima (hundreds) and perhaps Abu Shusha (70)
You must have some difficulty discrediting one of your own historians.
badgeless 1 year ago 2
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@NERV180 my reply to jimmyjoemeeker. Deir Yassin:
``It is the prime example of THE lie,``
Benny Morris - you know who he is - respected - historian - Zionist.
When asked the question:
``how many acts of Israeli massacre were perpetrated in 1948?``
Morris (read carefully please):
"The worst cases were Saliha (70-80 killed), Deir Yassin (100-110), Lod (250), Dawayima (hundreds) and perhaps Abu Shusha (70)
You must have some difficulty discrediting one of your own historians.
badgeless 1 year ago
@jimmyjoemeeker Even if you don't believe this (which would put you out of touch with the reality of this conflict), can you tell me which state resisted international law by denying the refugees the right to return after the war?
NERV180 1 year ago
@NERV180 The Arabs were victims of their own aggression. Israel accepted the Jewish refugees from Arab terror- nearly a million from across the Arab world. The Arabs need to own up to their own responsibilities and accept the blame- and he Arabs, that are theirs.
jimmyjoemeeker 1 year ago
@jimmyjoemeeker Even if your going to say "they didnt accept the partition, so they had to pay." Your now advocating that a civilian population pays for the non-acceptance of a deal by the government? Blaming civilians, for government actions; sounds a bit like that word terrorism. And it isnt even like they didn't have good reason to resist the partition. Lets say France was "holy" to some immigrant population. You think that they would accept becoming a minority in their own country?
NERV180 1 year ago
@jimmyjoemeeker Again, my initial comment was meant to intend, though it went way over your head, that the Palestinians and Israelis are both people who now both have legitimate claims to their part of the land. To refer to Palestinians in general as cockaroaches or barbaric trash, is discusting on your part. You should be ashamed. I hope that when you run into anyone calling Palestinians or Israelis cockaroaches, you tell them they're fucked up people, just like I'm doing to you now.
NERV180 1 year ago
@NERV180 I don't refer to the Arabs (there's no such thing as "Palestine", so obviously there's no such thing as "Palestinians") as cockroaches, but they have behaved in a barbaric manner for so many decades. Dancing in the streets when a suicide bomber blows up an Israeli school bus or pizzeria is barbaric- at least in the civilized world.
The Arabs have no claims to the land. They forfeited any claims when they chose the gun. Move on.
jimmyjoemeeker 1 year ago
@jimmyjoemeeker Oh an the Israeli's have never done a single barbaric thing? It is a fact that they expelled civilians from their homes. We can argue the scale, but it certainly happened and don't be so damn sure it was only a few incidents. Having children write on missles, continuing the cicle of violence is prettry barbaric to me. Setting up these rediculous outposts and settlements with the support of the government, making peace impossible, is pretty damn bad too if you ask me.
NERV180 1 year ago
@NERV180 The Arabs admit that they fled in 1948. It was widely reported that their leaders told them to get out of the way so that they could destroy Israel. Those who didn't listen are citizens in the only country in the Middle East where people have rights.
There is no "circle of violence". If the jihadis stop trying to murder, nobody else will die. They were doing it even when there were no "settlements", and are doing now in Gaza, which has no "settlements". Jihadis always have a "reason".
jimmyjoemeeker 1 year ago
@jimmyjoemeeker "Israel opened up part of its archives in the 1980s for investigation by historians. This coincided with the emergence of various Israeli historians, called New Historians, who favored a more critical analysis of Israel's history. The most famous scholar of this group, Benny Morris, concludes that Jewish military attacks were the main direct cause of the exodus, followed by Arab fear due to the fall of a nearby town, Arab fear of impending attack, and expulsions."
NERV180 1 year ago
@jimmyjoemeeker How did I forget? Back in the good ol' days of the Jewish Gangs in Palestine, there were Jews who would blow up marketplaces full of civilians.
NERV180 1 year ago
tnx we are all with palastina
TheAlgerienzone 1 year ago
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Mafish Falastina.
jimmyjoemeeker 1 year ago
@jimmyjoemeeker i have an idea; why dont u just piss off since i bet u would be like a cockroach if u were in any palestinian's place in gaza. seriously what would u do??
kkkkhaledddd 1 year ago
@kkkkhaledddd,
If I were in their place I would be a jihadi cockroach like they are? Good thing I'm not in their place. So let's break out the Raid and clean up Israel of all jihadi cockroaches.
I wouldn't be in their place because I would have made peace and had myself a state. They're too hell-bent on getting their 72 year old virgins.
jimmyjoemeeker 1 year ago
@jimmyjoemeeker Clearly you know oh so very much about this complicated conflict.
NERV180 1 year ago
France & the world community supports a free Palestine.
pcfcgt 2 years ago
december/january 2008-2009: in Gaza...over 1000 INNOCENT PEOPLE LOST THEIR LIVES.
in just 3 weeks.
were they terrorists too? well over 200 of them were children.
lakersownsuns 2 years ago
if i read this comments i get tears in my eyes. how can this israelis sereosly believe what they do can be good and right. how can they terrorize these people after what was done to the jews in the holocaust. but they never went to places like jenin or gaza and they dont want to see or hear how peole are getting terrorized, not only physically but also mental.
i´m not palestinian but my heart is with you palestine! and i was in palestine and israel and saw what is happening with my own eyes.
mcms9217 2 years ago
death to the jews , long life palestine
mahmoudnij 2 years ago
Assalamunaaika Palestine, InnALLAHa Ma As Saa'breen...
May Allah Bless U All...
rockstar130986 2 years ago
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fibbingcats 2 years ago
3anjad keef betnadene erhabi
1997Ismail1997 2 years ago
FUCK JEWS!
omarthebest4 2 years ago
free palestine fuck zionists
bejustlikeyouuuu 3 years ago 8
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There's no such thing as "Palestine".
jimmyjoemeeker 2 years ago
It are the palestinian people who make Palestine, I am not Palestinian, but i support Palestine, all these people who read your comments know you are just a peace of shit, so they dont take you serious
mmmjjjyassin 2 years ago
Therre are no 'Palestinian' people and no 'Palestine'. You jihadis have no future in the civilized world, and if you keep it up, not anywhere.
jimmyjoemeeker 2 years ago
thats what your naive voice says, look at america, hollywoodstars are convicting to Islam, and we have no future? The country where most of the moslim-hating people live, is transforming to a place where people convict to our religion. We dont have a future? give us 20 years, and even your children will be muslims, and there is nothing you can do...
mmmjjjyassin 2 years ago
You dumb jihadi; Palestine never existed and never will exist. You violent jihadi cavepeople would all starve todeath if you didn't have oil under your feet, and even that won't save you from yourselves.
As to converts to Islam, Hollywood stars are converting? Wow. You sure are getting the dregs- and not many.
In 20 years Europe will have sent your sorry asses back to your god-cursed countries and you'll be dying of starvation- and the rest of the world will celebrate.
jimmyjoemeeker 2 years ago
you will be the first to suffer... you will regret ever saying this
brotdher 2 years ago
Go suck your mother's dick, you jihadi piece of shit. We in the civilized world will always shit on you goat-herding, camel humping barbarians.
jimmyjoemeeker 2 years ago
You must be either living on another planet or a simple ignorant American. Its people like u who make the US looks so incompetent or outright dumb.
A Frenchman who supports the Palestinian struggle
pcfcgt 2 years ago
I live in the world of reality. There's no such thing as "Palestine" and no "Palestinian" people.
Look up the video "Professor Azmi Bishara: There Is No "Palestinian Nation", Never Was!"
France exists. "Palestine" doesn't. You can support the tooth fairy and it won't make her real either.
jimmyjoemeeker 2 years ago
Google it fucker. U Americans are so fucking ignorant & dumb no wonder why u are in the quicksand of Afghanistan; "the graveyard of empires"
pcfcgt 2 years ago
The only place it exists is online- in cyberspace.
Now go back to your mud hut and find a nice "wife" from one of your goats before you hurt yourself.
jimmyjoemeeker 2 years ago
The American, Yankee empire is collapsing-
VIVA LA REVOLUCION!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PRESIDENTE CHAVEZ
pcfcgt 2 years ago
Your country (the US) lost in Vietnam & you'll loose again in Afghanistan just like the Brits, Russians & Soviets, u loosers-
pcfcgt 2 years ago
LOL! The only way you barbaric jihadis can win a war is if you're fighting other jihadis.
jimmyjoemeeker 2 years ago
The end of the American, Yankee empire.
"PRESIDENTE CHAVEZ"
pcfcgt 2 years ago
true
afghanistan=the graveyard for strong nations
brotdher 2 years ago
@jimmyjoemeeker
Zionism and Israel are also constructs (things dreamed up by racist imperialists).. your argument is seriously flawed
youbi7777 2 years ago
youbi7777,
Israel is real. It's a country. The land is the land of the nation of Israel, which is also very real. The racist imperialists are the jihadis, who think that the entire world belongs to them.
Thatincludes the would-have-been Palies, who are a recent, barbaric invention.
jimmyjoemeeker 2 years ago
@jimmyjoemeeker
mavvaffanculo
studia
vai in pelestina
e poi parla
65reflex 2 years ago
I have studied, you dumb fucking gugatz.
There's no such thing as "Palestine". There is such a thing as Israel. Thank God.
jimmyjoemeeker 2 years ago
tu parli di cose che non conosci e non sei obbligato ad esprimere un commento (thank god)
se vieni a Roma (sempre che tu sappia dove si trovi)
ti accompagno a Ramallah a vivere la situazione ma forse hai il cervello troppo anabolizzato per fare una cosa utile per la tua evoluzione. e Dio lasciamolo da parte che e' rimasto arretrato con il suo lavoro.
ACTA NON VERBA
65reflex 2 years ago
I know all about it, boy. You don't know the difference between Rome and Ramallah.
And you jihadis think you can fight. Little Israel kicks your haji ass every time you try.
Loser.
jimmyjoemeeker 2 years ago
hai qualche difficolta' a capire, cerco di spiegarmi meglio: io a roma ci vivo e in palestina e israele ci sono stato 6 volte e conosco la realta' della zona. Non farti influenzare da quello che dicono i mass media e vedi con i tuoi occhi.
Solo allora potrai farti un idea. non sono contro gli ebrei ma contro i soprusi perpetrati dai potenti chiunque essi siano. peace and love.
p.s. thanks for boy
65reflex 2 years ago
You are the one who doesn't understand. You might live in Rome. You might have visited Israel, but you have never visited "Palestine", because there's no such place as "Palestine".
It has nothing to do with the media. It has to do with reality. Because the Arabs want violence and war and terror- not peace and love, "Palestine" doesn't exist and will never exist.
Every time it could have come into existence, they violently chose not to.
Gentiles like me know that. Everyone knows it.
jimmyjoemeeker 2 years ago
@jimmyjoemeeker
se la palestina non esiste quali sono secondo te i confini di Israele?
quelli della dichiarazione di Balfour?
quelli prima o dopo la guerra dei 6 giorni?
quelli dopo la guerra dello Yom Kippur?
Sai quante risoluzioni dell'ONU ha disatteso Israele?
Sai chi ha fatto i primi attentati terroristici in terrasanta?
Sai quando e' nata Hamas e perche'?
Non pensi che la colpa di tutto sia stata di noi europei prima e degli usa dopo ti ringrazio se mi rispondi
ciao
65reflex 2 years ago
It's not an issue of "if". It's a fact: "Palestine" doesn't exist. There's no such country, has no land, no currency, no stamps, no history, and no future.
And the issue of the UN is very funny, because the reason why "Palestine" doesn't exist is because the would-have-been "Palestinians" didn't accept UN 181, which established Israel and would have established them.
The first ones who made terrorist attacks in Israel were the Arabs- even before their riots and terror in 1920-1921. Barbarians
jimmyjoemeeker 2 years ago
@jimmyjoemeeker you would do the same if u had pride and someone tried to take your land. its something called emotion and pride and love towards ur assets (land family and so on) but, of course, many careless people out there would call the ppl who want their things back "terrorists"
kkkkhaledddd 2 years ago
It wasn't their land. It never was their land. Yasser Arafat himself was born and grew up in Egypt. The problem is that you jihadis think that everything is yours, and because you're so greedy and prone to violence, you keep shooting yourselves in the foot.
Keep it up and there will be nothing left for you. I for one won't care. You did it to yourselves.
jimmyjoemeeker 2 years ago
talk about barbarians, the US is the most barbaric state in the world. USA murdered tens of thousnads of mexican people during the mexican- US war just to satisfie the USA's and the americans crave for more land . and the barbaric atrocities by the US dont stop there.
al3xt3hl0nly 1 year ago
I never fail to notice how you jihadi cave men have to go back in history to find our atrocities, just like you have to go WAY back in history to find anything positive about Muzzies.
And no matter how far back you go, there's no such thing as a nation called the "Palestinians" or a country called "Palestine".
By the way, I have some Mexican blood in me- and more Native American blood, hijo de puta.
jimmyjoemeeker 1 year ago
i am not muslim, stupid idiot, i am cathlic. and if you want i cant name some recent atrocoties, for example, the police brutality in the USA is one, the bombing of baghdad, where the US murdered thousand of civillians with no prejudice and with no concern for who was the figthers, and who where the civillians. it doesnt matter if you have mexican blood in you, it does not make you a mexican , your nation still ruined mexico and because of usa, mexico is the way it is today.
al3xt3hl0nly 1 year ago
Catholics can spell "Catholic", moron.
There have been 1359 murdered and 3212 wounded in the name of Allah has been in the past 2 months in 283 attacks in Afghanistan, Algeria, Bangladesh, Dagestan, Egypt, France, Germany, India, Ingushetia, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Kenya, Nigeria, Pakistan, Philippines, Somalia, Sudan, Thailand, and Yemen.
And in Iraq, it is almost totally Muslims murdering Muslims.
Yes, it's Islam.
Obviously, the civilized world will not accept this, even if you will.
jimmyjoemeeker 1 year ago
count all the murders in detroit, usa, los angeles, and every other city in USA, most of the murderers are christian, therefore, folowing your logic, all christians are evil savages. lets not forget of all the children christian USA soldiers have raped in the iraq war, or the number of countrys christian USA bomber pilots have flow over and bombed in the name of GOOOOOOOOOD, and GEORGE DUBYA' BUSH, its sick that your country attacked and cut a nation in half in the name of the lord
al3xt3hl0nly 1 year ago
The murders in western cities are not about religion. They're about other things. And we, as civilized societies, don't accept murder as legitimate.
Muzzies, on the other hand, murder in the name of Allah- including murdering other Muslims in the name of Allah: And their "cultures" glorify it.
We don't fight against the jihadi barbarians in the name of God. We fight in the name of civilization, to prevent them from murdering in the name of Allah.
Islam is a death cult; violent and barbaric.
jimmyjoemeeker 1 year ago
lol - says the white arse holes of - WW1 WW2 plus loads other - oh remember Hiroshima?
Million upon Millions.
pixelrow 1 year ago
Who says that I'm white? People of every race, color and creed are being murdered by your death cult called Islam- everywhere on earth.
As to Japan, it wasn't in the name of Christianity and it wasn't in the name of white folks. It was because Japan started a war. They did it against us, against China, against the Philippines, against everyone.
You Muzzies are doing it on an even greater scale now, and that includes in your barbaric Islamic Republic of Mauritania. Why don't you go back there?
jimmyjoemeeker 1 year ago
again, you go wit the racist xenophobic name calling, shows your maturity. i have said i am not muslim, but you are a stupid americunt, so you cannot think of anything else to say, some, Mr. genocide, when are you going to return those millions of square miles you stole from mexico? when are you going to acknoladge the may lai ,massacre? islam the death cult? sorry, but your nation is nation of death and genocides, your nation is far from perfect, you americunts are even
al3xt3hl0nly 1 year ago
so everytime, i heard george dubya say shit as, "may god guide us" and other things along those lines, the war is not about religion. when usa tries to ethnicaly clense iraq and impose a NEW religeon, it is all about religeon. for example, the united states bombed mousqes, and sends christian "missionarys" and you say every muslim kills in the name of a religeon, with out any fact to your ignorant comment, so i will say every white, black, kills in the name of god, and money, and Mcdonalds.
al3xt3hl0nly 1 year ago
Jimmy Carter also says that- much more, but in neither case is it the same, or even close to the same, as your jihadis.
If we wanted to ethnically cleanse Iraq, there would be nothing left of Iraq. Again, haji-boy, it is the MUSLIMS in Iraq who are murdering each other by the thousands, and it was Saddam Hussein who was responsible for over a million dead; in Iraq, Iran, Kuwait, Saudi, and even in Israel with his Scuds back in 1991.
ONLY Muslims are mudering folks everywhere for Allah.
jimmyjoemeeker 1 year ago
scared of universal health care. to be honest, i dont give a fuck about the united states, if a school full of white american children where to blow up tomorrow, i would not even shed a tear, because you americans deserve it. you nation has invaded countless nations, raped millions of children, and you still try to be hyupocritical and criticize islam? pathetic, gives me another reason to hate americunts
al3xt3hl0nly 1 year ago
yeah like killing of bush and blair wasnt Cathloic - even promoted by the Pope.
pixelrow 1 year ago
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FreshPrinceTVseries 1 year ago
@jimmyjoemeeker
millions of Christians visited bethlehem last week which is a Palestinian city , and you will kiss thier asses so they let you go in .
3asifah 2 years ago
Millions of Christians didn't visit Bethlehem last week, moron. Read the news. There were thousands.
Bethlehem is a Jewish city that is presently occupied mostly by Muslims. Do a Google search for "O, Muslim town of Bethlehem..." and you'll see. I saw when I was there.
Jesus was a Jew from Bethlehem in Judaea .
By the way, you are the Jews' dogs, not the other way around (as your YouTube page says). They own you.
jimmyjoemeeker 2 years ago
@jimmyjoemeeker
if ur saying all this honestly, then u know nothing. bbc cnn and all those are owned by jews. i doubt theyd be telling ppl the truth. and yes logically the palestinian state no longer exists now since the jews and their america took it, but palestine will come back...
kkkkhaledddd 2 years ago
Another jihadi conspiracy theorist. The BBC is a publicly owned corporation that operates under a Royal Charter issued by the British Crown and its operations are overseen by twelve Governors who are appointed by the Crown on the advice of the Government. There are no Jews in their leadership, but there is someone named Samir Shah.
CNN is a subsidiary of Turner Broadcasting Systems, which is owned by Time Warner, a public company.
And there was NEVER a "Palestinian" state in history. Never.
jimmyjoemeeker 2 years ago
@jimmyjoemeeker a jew or a slave of jews taught u
kkkkhaledddd 2 years ago
No, haji boy: I just don't like jihadis. I know why you live in Austria though; so you can be close to your hero, Adolf Hitler.
jimmyjoemeeker 2 years ago
To quote Zuheir Mohsen:
"The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity... There is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct Palestinian people to oppose Zionism."
jimmyjoemeeker 2 years ago
all i know that everything have been done on this earth will be writen in the history book , so i realy dont care if i die terrorist or die like a normal human but all i know that only god can judge if you are a terrorist or realy human
boshkaly 3 years ago 5
Palestine is Innocent!! war on terorism? Israel has no life, the raids that happened today must not be repeated!! 200 dead.155 in pieces, and another 200 injured. What is this massacre!! how can this happen and the world remain silent!@!@!@ how will demonstrations help!! WAKE UP!! INNCOENT LIVES ARE DYING FOR NO CAUSE!!!!!WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!
kel464 3 years ago 4
actually its more like 5000 dead now more than 1000 injuired and more than half of the 5000 in peices
thexxgun11 2 years ago