I know nothing of Swedish language, politics or political parties, but the word 'riksdagspartiet' sounds like 'reichstagg party'. Did not Hitler burn down the Reichstagg, (the German parliament building), blame it on 'terrorists' and use the event to remove rights and freedoms from the German populace? Nothing new under the sun. Be careful, my friends in Sweden.
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This film sucks, shame on whoever made it! (The anti-FRA propaganda that is, not The Dead Poet Society) By the way americans, I think the Patriot act is one of the best things President Bush has done, and he's done a lot of great things! Like invading Iraq and Afghanistan, a pity that he didn't take Iran too...
Ja, jag saknar helt medkänsla för människor. Jag tänker bara på nationens bästa och historien, d.v.s. vad följande generationer kommer att få lära sig på sina historielektioner. Var det svaret du ville ha?
I dont see how a clip from The Dead Poet Society is helpful to your argument but you do make a good point about government surveillance and rights to privacy. In America the Patriot act was passed that basically does the same thing of violating peoples rights under the hysteria of national security. Benjamin Franklin said those who sacrifice freedom for security shall have neither!
The MPs (represented by the students in this film) voted for a law
That allows the total communication watching (mobile telephone, satellite, internet) that passes Swedens borders.
At the end of the month internet providers, mobile teleoperators etc, should give all the traffic generated by the Swedish people to the Ministry of Defence.
This is the most offensive law ever voted and against the constitution.
There are penalties for wire tapping for simple citizens.
USA avlyssnar redan ALL våran trafik och det enda FRA lagen skulle göra är att VI i Sverige tar makten från USA.
Vi bedömmer själva ifall någon är ett hot mot Sveriges befolkning, inte USA.
FRA's avlyssning går via dator och den plockar ut misstänksamma meddelanden som lyssnas på av FRA's anställda. Så 99.9999% av Sveriges meddelanden kommer inte höras av FRA's anställda utan en dator.
Personligen har jag inga problem med att en dator läser det jag skriver för det gör datorer HELA TIDEN!!!!!
In the beginning of google maps and google earth you could see the FRA buildings, but after they had complained to google there is now forest where the buildings used to be.
You know, Adolf Hitler did many things similar to this, as has every other dictator. You think people would learn.
We need someone like V from V for Vendetta..
Nothing wrong with government of any type, except when you get selfish power hungry politicians in office.
To my friends in Sweden, my sympathies lie with you. Best of luck, you have a beautiful country and language, and you have the power to show your government what you think.
Since the military was based on the people and would never have followed an order to oppress the people (themselves) the politicians have totally slaughtered the military now for 15 years and there is nothing left of the old 1 million man strong military.
Civil or not, it´s still a part of the military- just like the king is.
There´s nothing sane about SD, all they want to do is throw everyone out of the country who was not born here. Just like the nazis in Germany said everything was because of the jews, SD blame everything on immigrants.
PP would be very good in the parlament because we don´t give a shit for the blocks of blue and red.
It is true that I´ve heard those lies and propaganda in the media: from Jimmie Åkesson himself... I don´t think he´s been spreading them to speak bad for SD, do you?
And another thing. He just said the same thing as Mona Sahlin about the FRA-law: That he don´t like it "as it is today". SD are not interested in geting totally rid of that law. They want it just like the socialists want it, maybe with a little facejob but overall still a bigbrother-law.
I'm sorry but I don't think I would ever like to vote on a Piratparty who thinks that socialists are responsible for ideas that belongs to SD-politicians, racists, conservatives ans some socialdemocrats.
With "socialists" I was talking about the same party you call "socialdemocrats". Maybe I used the wrong word, but the bottom line was that Sverigedemokraterna and Socialdemokraterna both want the FRA-law
Yes, because mixing Socialists with Socialdemocrats is hardly happy. Not when knowing that many Socialists were citizen controlled through opinion-registration by the Swedish secret service during the 1970's. Surprisingly the Social democrat Olof Palme also was suspected. Though that perspective it's quite ironic that Bodström, Socialdemocrats took up the FRA-law. Even more surprising that many conservatives, for freedom and individuality, voted 'yes'.
Well I´m not sure that the socialdemocrats would agree that they´re not some kind of socialists, but anyway, that´s not in my interest to speak tomato about since I´m not a socialdemocrat...:)
Oh, yes, Socialdemocrats who tries to make the impression that they are socialists...it's a little bit like when the Swedish Conservatives, Moderaterna were trying to give some kind of Social democratic touch in their campaign to win the election...and then in America when that half racist guy Ron Paul suddenly became soooo revolutionary.
Stupidity at high level, imho! It's obvious that the advertising business (the less smart ones) have had too much influence on the campaigns.
All parties in the riksdag are socialist, including the social-moderates, social-liberals, social-centers and social-christians...
There has not been a real "free-market, small-government and low-taxes"-party in Sweden for 30-40 years. Even though it represents the most popular politics in the world.
Ron Paul stands for freedom for ALL. And are the only presidential candidate not part of the NWO, or member of the Council of foreign relations!
Hahaha, great humor! Please show me when he said something even remotely like that, if he did it would be 100 videos of that here on YT.
I suppose you know that FRA have already been doing this for a long time already (totally unrestricted), but it took an alliance government to set up rules for them. Unfortunately the ugly face of riksdagspartiet revealed itself and the law got fucked up.
SD would restrict FRA much much more heavilly. As an opposite of the total freedom they had before...
SD is not at all necessary to avert these fascist tendencies, as a matter of fact the SD-party voted FOR the law - please remember this, Swedish people ...
I suppose it has never occurred to the SD that it might be a good idea to take away all of the FRA:s jurisdiction to interfere with civilian police work? Why must we go back to the way things were before just becasue we decide to scrap Lex orwell? I guess most SD-voters and elected officials think that the wire tapping of innocent swedes might come in handy the day that their concentration camps opens up.
Well, since making aquaintance with the rhetorics of SD it's not hard seeing the parallells with the naziparty. It's unsurprisingly not far from the doublespeak that the so called american libertarians are occupying themselves with.
Btw: Hitler also let people who weren't Arian stay in his little reich, we all know what happened to them.
So you think randomly mobilized conscripts would have willingly taken part in the actions of an oppressive government?
If so you also believe an oppressive government could come to power even when 1/9 of the people could rise up in forceful resistance in the form of a regular army...
Fuck you Sweden, we didn't give you right to peek in to our mails. t. angry finn
Basaltq 2 years ago
I know nothing of Swedish language, politics or political parties, but the word 'riksdagspartiet' sounds like 'reichstagg party'. Did not Hitler burn down the Reichstagg, (the German parliament building), blame it on 'terrorists' and use the event to remove rights and freedoms from the German populace? Nothing new under the sun. Be careful, my friends in Sweden.
Mytheoryous 2 years ago
V for Vendetta is the best and most important movie ever
notblondeswede 3 years ago
Please sing the current FRA petition at:.petitiononline com / NORFRA/
Casar1973 3 years ago
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This film sucks, shame on whoever made it! (The anti-FRA propaganda that is, not The Dead Poet Society) By the way americans, I think the Patriot act is one of the best things President Bush has done, and he's done a lot of great things! Like invading Iraq and Afghanistan, a pity that he didn't take Iran too...
SwedishConservative 3 years ago
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Komsip 2 years ago
Ja, jag saknar helt medkänsla för människor. Jag tänker bara på nationens bästa och historien, d.v.s. vad följande generationer kommer att få lära sig på sina historielektioner. Var det svaret du ville ha?
SwedishConservative 2 years ago
I dont see how a clip from The Dead Poet Society is helpful to your argument but you do make a good point about government surveillance and rights to privacy. In America the Patriot act was passed that basically does the same thing of violating peoples rights under the hysteria of national security. Benjamin Franklin said those who sacrifice freedom for security shall have neither!
skylofts 3 years ago
The MPs (represented by the students in this film) voted for a law
That allows the total communication watching (mobile telephone, satellite, internet) that passes Swedens borders.
At the end of the month internet providers, mobile teleoperators etc, should give all the traffic generated by the Swedish people to the Ministry of Defence.
This is the most offensive law ever voted and against the constitution.
There are penalties for wire tapping for simple citizens.
NefeliDanai 3 years ago
Haha, 1:23, "roligt". :)
NinZine 3 years ago
RISE AND MAKE REVOLUTION
commit crimes until they bring back that law
anukefromrussia 3 years ago 2
5* for u
akisioannina 3 years ago
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USA avlyssnar redan ALL våran trafik och det enda FRA lagen skulle göra är att VI i Sverige tar makten från USA.
Vi bedömmer själva ifall någon är ett hot mot Sveriges befolkning, inte USA.
FRA's avlyssning går via dator och den plockar ut misstänksamma meddelanden som lyssnas på av FRA's anställda. Så 99.9999% av Sveriges meddelanden kommer inte höras av FRA's anställda utan en dator.
Personligen har jag inga problem med att en dator läser det jag skriver för det gör datorer HELA TIDEN!!!!!
Salladsdressing 3 years ago
beväpna er!!
1GRRRR 3 years ago
Never trust the government, because the government does not trust you.
Internationalen 3 years ago 8
How about a FRA-book... Easy and convenient. No need to register data, it will keep itself up-to-date.
ydyammo 3 years ago
asball
samanwhothefuckareu 3 years ago
if big brother headquarters were not illegal. they would at least give their locations & numbers. i googled & looked really hard yesterday
but never found not one. hhhmmmmm i wonder why!!?!??!??!??
becuase we still are not anymore safer or anyless safer then before.....
THriCEB 3 years ago
In the beginning of google maps and google earth you could see the FRA buildings, but after they had complained to google there is now forest where the buildings used to be.
The Muskö base is still visible though.
Scurck 3 years ago
all you sweds now use those lines to ddos the goverment and finaces all of you now think how many 100mbit and gbit lines there are. ddos them now!!!
PeZCoRe87 3 years ago
FUCK THE FRA LAW!!
AdDeOWN 3 years ago
Yes the law passed.. It's hard to believe how this can happen to a democratic country like Sweden
NefeliDanai 3 years ago
No-longer democratic, now military fascist regime...
ManiacMediaDirector 3 years ago 5
hah so true
breendon89 3 years ago 3
You know, Adolf Hitler did many things similar to this, as has every other dictator. You think people would learn.
We need someone like V from V for Vendetta..
Nothing wrong with government of any type, except when you get selfish power hungry politicians in office.
To my friends in Sweden, my sympathies lie with you. Best of luck, you have a beautiful country and language, and you have the power to show your government what you think.
godzillaman13 3 years ago 3
No military.
Since the military was based on the people and would never have followed an order to oppress the people (themselves) the politicians have totally slaughtered the military now for 15 years and there is nothing left of the old 1 million man strong military.
Now: bureaucratic fascist regime.
Rösta SD, 2009 & 2010!
Scurck 3 years ago
Oh yes military! What do you think "FRA" stand for? "Försvarets radioanstalt".
SD is no alternative, vote for Piratpartiet!
ManiacMediaDirector 3 years ago
"FRA är en civil myndighet som hör till Försvarsdepartementets verksamhetsområde."
SD is the only sane and realistic alternative. PP is just a waste of votes.
Scurck 3 years ago
Civil or not, it´s still a part of the military- just like the king is.
There´s nothing sane about SD, all they want to do is throw everyone out of the country who was not born here. Just like the nazis in Germany said everything was because of the jews, SD blame everything on immigrants.
PP would be very good in the parlament because we don´t give a shit for the blocks of blue and red.
ManiacMediaDirector 3 years ago
They are under försvarsdepartementet, that is not necessary military.
You only repeat the lies and propaganda you have heard about SD in the media.
1. SD do not want to throw out anyone, except non-citizen criminals. They should be deported as it is today, but that rarely happens.
->Not even ND wants to throw out everyone!
2. SD do not blame everything on immigrants, they blame most things on the politicians in the big7!
There are no blocks, only one. They are all of the same: Rikdsagspartiet.
Scurck 3 years ago
It is true that I´ve heard those lies and propaganda in the media: from Jimmie Åkesson himself... I don´t think he´s been spreading them to speak bad for SD, do you?
And another thing. He just said the same thing as Mona Sahlin about the FRA-law: That he don´t like it "as it is today". SD are not interested in geting totally rid of that law. They want it just like the socialists want it, maybe with a little facejob but overall still a bigbrother-law.
ManiacMediaDirector 3 years ago
Hold it. What has the socialists to do this?
I'm sorry but I don't think I would ever like to vote on a Piratparty who thinks that socialists are responsible for ideas that belongs to SD-politicians, racists, conservatives ans some socialdemocrats.
disannAPP 3 years ago
With "socialists" I was talking about the same party you call "socialdemocrats". Maybe I used the wrong word, but the bottom line was that Sverigedemokraterna and Socialdemokraterna both want the FRA-law
ManiacMediaDirector 3 years ago
Yes, because mixing Socialists with Socialdemocrats is hardly happy. Not when knowing that many Socialists were citizen controlled through opinion-registration by the Swedish secret service during the 1970's. Surprisingly the Social democrat Olof Palme also was suspected. Though that perspective it's quite ironic that Bodström, Socialdemocrats took up the FRA-law. Even more surprising that many conservatives, for freedom and individuality, voted 'yes'.
Anyway good luck with the goofies!
disannAPP 3 years ago
Well I´m not sure that the socialdemocrats would agree that they´re not some kind of socialists, but anyway, that´s not in my interest to speak tomato about since I´m not a socialdemocrat...:)
ManiacMediaDirector 3 years ago
Oh, yes, Socialdemocrats who tries to make the impression that they are socialists...it's a little bit like when the Swedish Conservatives, Moderaterna were trying to give some kind of Social democratic touch in their campaign to win the election...and then in America when that half racist guy Ron Paul suddenly became soooo revolutionary.
Stupidity at high level, imho! It's obvious that the advertising business (the less smart ones) have had too much influence on the campaigns.
disannAPP 3 years ago
All parties in the riksdag are socialist, including the social-moderates, social-liberals, social-centers and social-christians...
There has not been a real "free-market, small-government and low-taxes"-party in Sweden for 30-40 years. Even though it represents the most popular politics in the world.
Ron Paul stands for freedom for ALL. And are the only presidential candidate not part of the NWO, or member of the Council of foreign relations!
Reality exist, whether you like it or not.
Scurck 3 years ago
Hahaha, great humor! Please show me when he said something even remotely like that, if he did it would be 100 videos of that here on YT.
I suppose you know that FRA have already been doing this for a long time already (totally unrestricted), but it took an alliance government to set up rules for them. Unfortunately the ugly face of riksdagspartiet revealed itself and the law got fucked up.
SD would restrict FRA much much more heavilly. As an opposite of the total freedom they had before...
Scurck 3 years ago
SD is not at all necessary to avert these fascist tendencies, as a matter of fact the SD-party voted FOR the law - please remember this, Swedish people ...
TT
leechwalesa 3 years ago 3
Really, WHERE did they vote on that?
For if you have any insight into Swedish politics you should know that SD is not part of the parliament... yet.
Scurck 3 years ago
I suppose it has never occurred to the SD that it might be a good idea to take away all of the FRA:s jurisdiction to interfere with civilian police work? Why must we go back to the way things were before just becasue we decide to scrap Lex orwell? I guess most SD-voters and elected officials think that the wire tapping of innocent swedes might come in handy the day that their concentration camps opens up.
Vavtrudner 3 years ago
Hello on you Scurck!
Well, since making aquaintance with the rhetorics of SD it's not hard seeing the parallells with the naziparty. It's unsurprisingly not far from the doublespeak that the so called american libertarians are occupying themselves with.
Btw: Hitler also let people who weren't Arian stay in his little reich, we all know what happened to them.
disannAPP 3 years ago
Nazi? Dude you really need to get in contact with reality.
Like the fact that the immigration politics of many Socialdemocratic parties around Europe is far more restrictive then what SD wants for Sweden.
It is the seven sects in riksdagspartiet who are the extremists.
Scurck 3 years ago
The SD voted FOR the law, this is important to remember, now isn't it ...?
TT
leechwalesa 3 years ago 2
As stated, SD wants the law, but it should be modified with much heavier restrictions.
The opposite would be to be against the law, but that would mean that FRA got totally free hands again.
Scurck 3 years ago
"the military was based on the people and would never have followed an order to opress the people"
lol the best 5 star joke ever
yeah, uhm, and a worm is actually a sock
disannAPP 3 years ago
So you think randomly mobilized conscripts would have willingly taken part in the actions of an oppressive government?
If so you also believe an oppressive government could come to power even when 1/9 of the people could rise up in forceful resistance in the form of a regular army...
Scurck 3 years ago
sorry to tell... the la past
Tomjon1991 3 years ago
Very good.
osobaum 3 years ago
This is brilliant
moloch8000 3 years ago 2
the dialogues are taken from another site i just made the sad translation...
NefeliDanai 3 years ago