Until hollywood, and a few celebrities, make it PC to have sympathy for men, we won't have it. When feminists stop being only about women and go back to their desire for equality for the genders and include men, we won't have a concern for men's rights. Until men learn to love each other the way women do, this won't be a great place to be male. It is why conscription registration still exists as to possibly enslave men into another male holocaust.
Men ignore the pain of other men because they are indoctrinated with the idea that if a real man wants to be considered so, he must not have sympathy for another man. As far as genital mutilation is concerned, many mutilated men defend their scars because they have scars and want to repeat the cycle of sexual abuse. However, some are brave enough to be honest, like you and me, to realise the pain of other men. The feminist movement is about women and not equality. I don't like most feminists.
You know I am just now watching this video again because I ended up linking it in a conversation about MRAs, and really, that comment about Axe body spray really makes me wonder about how Axe is marketed. And I mean I say that as some one who uses a lot o Axe products. But think about the same commercial with a women and being assaulted by a bunch of men and the response that would get. Really no mater what angle you look at this things really dont peace together well.
Bottom line, we now live in a society where a couple of mentally I'll psychopaths are allowed to go on live tv and laugh at a man who has been severely sexually tortured and humiliated.
THAT IS SICK, and shows women's true colors.
If you wanna have a voice google "CBS complaints" and you can make a complaint on this episode of the talk.
Also one of the psychopaths is on twitter @JulieChen. Feel free to bombard the bitch's twitter account.
...at that point, it is no longer "mere" sexual assault, but child abuse. When it trickles down to children, arguably the most vulnerable demographic in any society, there's a fucking problem. And for there to be so little of a public reaction - the first time I had heard about it was when I watched this video, and I'm two weeks late - is complete and total bullshit. This is definite red flag.
And I cannot believe that mother didn't press charges.
My little brother is ten years old - I really can't imagine what my reaction would be, if he were to be pinned down and stripped, humilated, and traumatized by a group of older girls. To be perfectly honest, that incident outrages me far more than some California woman sexually mutilating her husband ever could, even if that sounds wrong and even if the situation is far more severe...
I think it comes down to societies views on gender roles, men are supposed to be tough and women are supposed to be weak. So crimes on women are percieved worse because their the 'weaker' sex.
You know, I was waiting for you to make a video about this, but the day you uploaded this, my computer broke.
I agree 100%, this situation is not something to chuckle over or just ignore because the victim is a man. This is a violent crime against a human being by another human being, plain and simple. It boggles my mind that I haven't seen this ANYWHERE except a few videos on Youtube. I8<
I'd assume that no one's mad about it because we all generally realize that women have been forced to be subservient to men for the large part of the last 100,000 years and have only recently been deemed nearly human. Even today males usually dominate business and politics whereas women are basically exploited. They are also the victims of far more sexual assaults.
Know why people don't take you guys's mens rights vlogs seriously?
TJ argues women are responsible for preventing rape, thus blaming them. He doesn't understand feminism, doesn't quote mainstream modern feminists yet somehow can indict them. Oh and he also thinks that ignoring sexual history is assuming men are guilty.
@onlyAerik I don't agree with everything that TJ says, and I pointed out in this video that I think his assessment concerning the role of feminism was incorrect. All I said I agreed with him on was his disgust in the way this situation developed.
I suggest you watch my video again and this time, take the time to actually listen to what I did and didn't say.
@onlyAerik He quotes active, regular everyday feminists. Perhaps not the famous ones, but definitely common ones. Also, LatumWay didn't claim to agree with TJ on all womens rights / feminism issues; he actually says at 2:30 that this is not feminism's fault.
So far the only idiots caught thinking the situation was funny were the assholes on 'the talk', which is a rip off of 'the view' with the express purpose of being The view if all four hosts were morons all the time.
And this is an indictment of society? How come you don't indict society when they say stupidass shit about anything else?
the biggest risk factor for murder for women is pregnancy, or breaking up with a man. It's really common for angry ex boyfriends and ex husbands to assault and murder women. And you never near it. Because we're that fucking casual about it.
You say if it were the other way around, people would be enraged. Except it happens often, and nobody gives a shit.
@onlyAerik There probably are cases of sexual violence against women that go under-reported. I'm very much aware of that. But A. there are certainly examples of sexual violence against men that go unreported, due to the stigma attached to being a male victim, and B. my contention was not that violence against women doesn't go unreported a significant amount of the time. My contention was that violence against women would never be laughed at in this way on national TV. Thats all I said.
Putting aside dopey women on a chat show laughing - my first reaction to this was 'what did this guy do to deserve this? How much of an utter bastard must he have been?"
No-one else seems to be asking this question. The just blame her. I put this to someone at work who said "well I think they'd only been married a year" - well obviously one year isn't enough time to beat or psychologically damage someone, clearly.
On the other hand she might be a completely violent psycho. Food for thought.
@geffel They were actually married for six months, and I've not seen any evidence, in police or news reports to suggest anything other than she is a completely violent psycho. Assuming that it must have been his fault may be an indicator of this particular brand of sexism, directed at men.
I should reititerate that no-one I've spoken to abotu this story, male or female, has sided with the woman or thought it was funny. There's been a unanimous response of revulsion and anger directed at the woman. Twas just I, subjugated by feminists as i have been over the years, that jumped to the conclusion that the man must have been beating or otherwise terrorising her.
Well this is why I wondered about her motivation. What drives someone to do that? It's either a case of terrible abuse drove her to desperate measures, or, as you say, cunt percentage+mental level ratio...there's probably a logarithm or something to work out how much of a cunt she must have been.
you make a fantastic point. and the worst thing is on that show they talk and laugh about similar things all the time. and i think it is just because of the idea that men are just stronger, bigger, etc. than female. in 9 times out of 10 when something happens to a women they are immediately characterized as a victim.
Cntd. It is, in my view, a form of victim-blaming. I don't think it is even consciously done in most cases, but the humor comes from the fact that a "weaker" woman was the aggressor and the "stronger" man is the victim.
Seriously, this is classic TPHMT. Male victims of abuse are ashamed to report it or seek help. Women who behave aggressively are "bitches", but men who are perceived as weak are in jeopardy of losing their masculinity altogether. I could go on, but you're right, it isn't fair.
Ok, I have a whole lot to say about all the points you've raised (all excellent!) but here is just one I think you didn't address. Why aren't more people talking about this? Why is this situation (and hundreds others like it) horrific when the victim is female but humorous when the victim is male? I think partly because the image of a man or boy as helpless, dominated, in need of defense and aid, is a direct contradiction of how most people (and most men) construct their image of masculinity.
@latumway I agree with you one hundred percent. I was appalled and absolutely livid when I saw the footage of 'the talk'. I can't believe the lack of people that are pissed off about this. I think gender issues have reached a point where men need a lobby, and a movement too.
I was utterly enraged by what I saw on that show. I have seen a lot of genocide and murder on that news of mine, but nothing made me more disillusioned with the human condition than seeing a lot of women laughing at a man being horrendously mutilated.
I've called this "subjugation" with regard to women who hurt female causes, so I guess it works for men who hurt male causes (like the right to have a penis, or be free from genital mutilation).
With your brilliant mix of sense of humor, logical thinking, and bits of harshness, perhaps you should start a Youtube... er... Meninism movement? Penisism?
I'd say Masculinism but it sounds like a word thrown around at bodybuilding tournaments.
Testicular fortitudism? I'm grasping at straws here.
Great video. I totally agree. Rights are rights. Abuse is abuse. I think that if we are truly serious about equality, it shouldn't be viewed as women's rights or men's rights. Gender is irrelevant. Rights are rights... Mutilation of anyone's body by another person is abuse. Discrimination based on gender, race, religion, etc. is all still discrimination. I don't give a shit what group or category the victim may fit into.
I can understand, even if I do agree, why women laughed at the cutting off story. Its because it seems that a lot of women jokingly or in anger threaten to cut off their partners penis, so these woman feel like they can relate. I also believe that there's a whole 'crowd mentality' thing, where if one person laughs, everyone else should. I do believe firmly that mens rights should be more important. People think of men as strong. Well men are weak too. They need help as well.
I don't think there should be an uproar over jokes made about anyone's personal tragedies, male or female. I can imagine all sorts of humorous quips that could be made about a woman who got her breasts cut off, and I laughed at many a Bobbit joke back in the day. Obviously there's a time & a place for everything, but jokes about the misfortune of others can be hilarious; if anything, it's the hypocrisy aspect of situations like this that's the problem, not the joking.
The sad truth is that men police each others behaviour and there is a lot of peer pressure to conform to this stereotype of what a man should be. A man who shows any kind of emotion is considered less of a man:( This attitude is self destructive and that is why a lot of men are to afraid to say "hay don't say that about men that's sexist."
I understand every word you say, but for some reason I cannot get the same level of anger. You are 100% correct, and logically I should be just as horrified as if the gender roles were reversed. But I am not. Why? Not totally sure. Logically I know you are correct. And typically I find it easy to dispose of any social training in favour of logic. So why not on this issue? Is it possible that biology is actually a factor here? Is it possible we are wired to empathize more with women?
I'm horrified that anyone would laugh at that crime. I wish there was a way to convey the horror of what happened to this guy. Clearly, she is a nutcase and he had good reason to be divorcing her. Whatever his reasons, he did not deserve permanent mutilation.
The reason feminism is a valid scapegoat here is that this is the social climate of male/female interaction that they have been advocating for years. I dont think most feminists would advocate the mutilation of anyone, but socially speaking, women could not be viewed as equal or superior to men if males were not derided and made to look like evildoers deserving of whatever comes their way. Feminism may not be the reason those ladies said what they said, but feminism is what set the stage for it.
Stop complaining about it on Youtube and do what I did. Write to the sponsors of the show, let them know that you find it disgusting and that you can no longer think about their products without being reminded about how it was presented on a program for which they are paying.
I worked for a victim's assistance agency for years. Your comment just blew my mind, because you're way way off. Some of the offenders used their own sexual abuse as an excuse for molesting a child. But I've known many women survivors of child sexual abuse who didn't grow up to rape their children.
As I recall, weren't these SAME 'girls' upset about the woman who had her nose cut off for wanting a divorce? Isn't it strange and silly that these 'girls' on a TV show are comfortable enough to laugh about this being married to MEN who made it possible for them to be there? Silly little girls usually make silly little women......
The legacy of the Patriarchal system is part of what keeps stuff like this quieter. Men must be strong, tough, not complain.
What movement would you like? The Mens Rights Movement is an attempt to do this, and not all of them are crazy. Just as the Feminasi's arn't the bulk of feminism, or represent what I'd consider feminist ideals, the mens rights movement could do a lot of good
If MRA's weren't such 'Angry Conservatives' all the time;)
....I can understand if the guy was a bastard and was beating her to within an inch of her life... and she had cauliflower ear, or broken bones, and feared for her safety...then maybe that kind of response would be understandable...not right or justified, but understandable...Bitch needs to go to prison forever...
The reason why people are remaining silent about this is because people don't want to loose their jobs, and be shunned by everyone. Now why is that you may ask? It's because we're living in a pussy-whipped society. Back in the "good old day", it was men who have all the rights and women were the subordinate gender. These days, in many ways, the roles have been reversed.
@Justinfh2point0 Women do not have "all the rights" It is pretty even here in the states. And, even though most businesses here are working to change, men still make up to 3% more for the same jobs, even when their qualifications are identical with their female co workers. There should be no subordinate gender.
It isn't funny when someone gets physically mutilated, or humiliated like that 11 year old boy.
@AEVautomatic I just wonder if you'd have the same cosmetic preference if you weren't cut shortly after being born. All the same, I don't really have a problem with an adult preferring to be circumcised as long as he does't force his preference on a child, so I guess there's not really an issue here.
I'm a woman, and I agree with you 100%. This is disgusting behavior and no one, man or woman, should stand for it. Shame on any woman who has laughed at this situation.
Funny you say this isn't talked about when just about every video in my inbox is about this subject. Regardless, I feel it's probably the same reasons why no one takes a white person seriously when he claims to have been racially discriminated against. Blacks have been oppressed for so long, and even though things are better today than say 40 years ago, a white person claiming discrimination generally isn't taken seriously. Same thing when men are sexually discriminated against.
I'm not convinced that there exists such a thing as "the feminist movement". I've never met two feminists that agree on what that means, and some of them have just plain incompatible views. I'm reluctant to use it as a label and would rather go case by case on this.
I think that most people don't do what you do. Think about if the tables were switched would we be outraged? That's the problem with a lot of things actually not only when it comes to men and women.
I'm angry about it. I've already written several advertisers to that show, to let them know that as long as they advertise on a show that could behave this way, I will not be buying their products. There are a few of us women who aren't laughing about this shit.
I am also strongly against circumcision without consent, unless it is medically needed.
Some of the lack of outrage may stem from the idea that men have to remain stoic, and only show the accepted range of emotions. Just a thought.
Sexism is a double edged sword. It cuts both ways. I don't find it funny at all that a man was mutilated. I was disgusted by what "The Talk" women had to say. I don't watch that kind of crap, but have seen the clip. When it's a woman doing hideous things to a man, it's never treated as serious as when a man hurts a woman. So many people treat it as a joke. If a 13 year old boy is molested by a female teacher, people make stupid fucking jokes about it. Like it's not serious at all. Sick.
I am a woman...sad that I have to state that, but anyway...I would seriously, if given the choice of being raped or having to watch someone get their dick cut off, would choose being raped in place of them being mutilated in such a way...castration of any kind makes my stomach turn, and that anyone could do this to another human being makes me sick.
It seems to me that male's reactions come out of the stereotype that men have to be the tough guy. Men joke about it because you're supposed to be tough, and there is a perception that the tough guy wouldn't let his dick be cut off or let himself be stripped. Stereotypes can hurt men and women alike.
Alas i think that part of the reason that you won't see this getting tons of attention may be that in some form men are afraid of getting angry about this due to the possibility of being labeled a sexist.
To be honest I think the reason it hasn't really been talked about is because the news is focusing on other things at the moment. Wrong but true, also something similar happened back in the 90s except the penis was discovered and reattached. It's not "new enough" or w/e.
I find it crude, vile ,disgusting humor; if I watched the show this would cause me to stop. However, so long as the crime itself is prosecuted do a really few jokes really affect anything?
There is still a feeling of men being protectors-but only protectors of women. To many men, being humiliated by a woman is emasculating. And to stand up for someone who is emasculated seems to somehow be construed as emasculating. Perhaps this is a stretch, but it seems an argument along these lines may be made: the more men fight to uphold feminism, the more they neglect their own gender and belittle the feminist cause.
There's a culture that men are supposed to be thick-skinned and not "get their knickers in a twist" over anything. It's the idea that getting outraged over our rights is seen as "weak" and unmanly. It's linked to the reason that so many male rapes go unreported. Do a search for male rape in Congo or Zimbabwe.. most of the articles will talk about the shame factor and men's reluctance to draw awareness to the issue.
I think Sharon was wrong in her nonchalance, that said, the audience laugther could have been due to feeling uncomfortable. The people could be laughing "at her", not with her.
Other than that, I got the sense you may have confused the issue. Cutting someone's genitalia off against their concent is extremely wrong no matter what sex you are or what circumstance. But I'm not sure joking about such tragedies merits social movements.
Thought experiment: what if it was a hermaphrodite..out of text
1. It is absolutely disgusting, appalling, and awful that ANY group of "women" would laugh at such a horrible thing. I am in complete and utter disgust for women who would condone this and/or say its a joke.
2. At the same time, I'm a bit offended at the fact there are SOME men who think that ALL women would laugh at such a thing. That's an insult to sane women like myself.
3. Like you said, it is not "feminism's" fault at all. That's dumb.
One news article I've seen on this had a comments section full of responses from women assuming a priori that he must have "deserved" it (because men are beasts made for chopping up if you get sick of them). As though that's just the NATURAL consequence of divorcing your wife. As though it's natural to assume that HE did something wrong rather than considering that maybe the psychopath who drugs, binds, tortures and mutilates men, may not deserve a man! Fucking backwards thinking.
of course, when a woman does it, there is no outrage, but if a man does it, then he is shunned by just about everyone- that is hypocrisy at its finest
Women are callous, immoral creatures and in spite of this men are such gullible fucking idiots that they believe whatever women tell them. Both men and women are bad and men are responsible for not calling those psychos out before it got this bad and women are responsible for not being able to control themselves. Only evil pieces of garbage would laugh at human mutilation.
I think all issues that are ignored by men regarding their own welfare can go back to the constantly-pushed and ignorant understanding that if they complained, they "wouldn't be men". Honestly, it's consistent with MGM and all these other news stories. "It happened to me and I didn't feel it" is a great example of the obvious psychological defense, non-sequitur in nature, to detract from what is actually happening and to avoid complaining and to stay a "man" (whatever that means).
the problem i have with a men's right movement is essentially the same problem i have with women's rights movements. it shouldn't be "them" versus "us", comparing what "they" have to what "we" have. it should be about making all human beings fall into the "us" category. what's the point in creating camps? this goes for all bigotry issues, really.
This is I realize soley my personal view but I beilieve the reason that women are allowed to get away with such clearly cruel behavior shown by the lack of empathy is that men tend to blame the victim more. I know thats a sweeping generalitzation I try to avoid these but men are less sympathetic to male victims because I think they each secretly think, "No woman could ever do that to me." Outrage requires enough emapthy to put yourself in their place. I don't know many men who want be there.
Men's rights activists were talking about this pretty much right away. I'm not saying everyone should be a men's rights advocate, but more men should at least be paying attention to what men's rights activists are saying. Feminism has basically monopolized gender discussion in society and it was their responsibility to bring this to the public and they failed. This is why feminism is bullshit.
... and much of where modern feminism (and masculinism, though it has no real majority political following that I know of) falls short is that instead of fighting this core group of prejudices that restrict both men and women to their respective cultural role-playing, they try to polarize the issues by painting one side as victimized and the other as perpetrator. And even the most reasonable among one side hesitate to speak first against the everyday problems that concern only the other side.
I was thinking about this a while back and I realized that a lot of what we experience as obstacles to men's equal treatment -- the perceived expendability of men (their body parts and even lives), the tendency to assume men are guilty of violent crimes or at blame for their divorce or not good for taking care of children, etc. -- come from the same group of prejudices that are responsible for various mistreatment of women...
This reminds me of some article on tumblr, where a man tried to rob a woman who owned a hair salon and she tied him up and raped him for days. People were posting positive comments on it like she was some kind of fucking hero. I lost faith humanity that day.
I tend to agree with xxxthepeachxxx, that feminism should be viewed as a movement for equal rights, what it has morphed into is a movement for female superiority. I'm a feminist in the original sense, that of equal rights. And there is definitely a double standard at work, that only females can be victims, and when victimization happens to males, it's just funny. It's the product of making females the sacred cow, which happened accidentally, when trying to secure them equal rights.
@LaturnWay: You brought this to my attention ... and i AM outraged ... but because you handled this so well ... i faved your vid instead of making an own one ... i am not that fluent in english anyway. Thanks, Sir.
I was watching this with my headphones out, and my feminist brother said that you were wrong. I still agree, but I hate having feminist brothers, and I'M THE GIRL IN THE FAMILY and I'm not a feminist, I belive in equal rights.
@FrackMeister He said you were wrong about "if it had happened to a women" part. He thought if there was a group of men laughing at a women having her clitoris cut off that people would laugh with them. feminists....
I think the reason there isn't an outrage is, as you suggested, because it happens more rarely... when has it happened before BTW?
I'm not saying this makes it OK to laugh at it. It doesn't. But it should be a good explanation as to why there isn't an outrage - because it is considered an isolated incident which won't happen again. Why would anyone bother themselves with something that's unlikely to ever get repeated (or rather, what seems won't get repeated) and which hasn't happened before?
How many men and women in our group have made videos on this topic? I ask because there are two that I know of made who are women that taKE A LOT OF SHIT for being feminists.
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Um men do that shit to their wives that try to leave them all the fucking time. Its just not talked about publicly. One crazy woman cuts off her cheating husband who filed for divorce from her's dick is supposed to be a real problem we all need to focus on? Gimme a break! Take a fucking number dudes.
@iremythpurr I think its interesting that you bring up the fact that he was cheating... like justified what happened.
And I never said that this doesn't happen to women. It may even be the case that it happens more often - I don't know. My point was, people are shocked and sombre about it when it happens to women. When it happens to men, its a joke,
@iremythpurr Actually, we do talk about it all the time, all the time. There are governmental institutions dedicated to violence against women, there are shelters all over the place, laws, indeed, violence against women--as a topic--makes up a large part of the Women/Gender Studies debates. So, don't claim it isn't talked about. Here is a rare instance where violence against men is being talked about. Its rarity and the brutality of the crime is why it is being talked about at all this time.
@iremythpurr Upload any video of a man under any circumstances mocking the mutilation of a woman on television along with rousing laughter from male audience members and I will be glad to shut up and take a number. But in the absence of being able to do so perhaps you might want to reevaluate which side of this issue you really want to defend.
@iremythpurr Typical feminist shaming... NO WHERE - NO EFFING - WHERE has it been stated or PROVEN that he was cheating. He wanted a divorce. Furthermore, let's just say he did cheat, you somehow find that particular act to be a justification for mutilation/attempted murder? You are one sick f88k.
I suspect it's just like the breast cancer issue where more people die of prostate cancer, but boobs are a girly part so more money gets raised for it, etc.
If a man was sexually mutilating a woman it would be national (worldwide) news and there would be a pouring out of outrage from men and women alike. These stories are always big, even when they happen in 3rd world countries.
People are just getting sick of people like you playing victim.
@iremythpurr It's not about focusing on the problem of wives mutilating husbands at the expense of every other problem. It's about recognizing that it is no less an act of violence than any act of violence against women.
when I heard about this random guy getting his cock chopped off I locked myself in a closet and cried my eyes out while sucking my thumb. first bobbit, then this guy. its a crime spree that is spreading all over the world. join me at the MY DICK MY RIGHTS rally on september 11 in New York. the madness has to end.
@Slapnuts6931 Oh, there're lots more cases than bobbit. If you go on wikipedia about all the cases, there's tons of em. 90% of them were in asia, which, i'm like, wtf, why?
Goodness, I came here thinking even one act of genital mutilation/attempted murder was one too many and not a laughing matter, but your sarcasm has surely set me straight, good sir.
@Invesigator I know a nice place with padded walls and people who can look after you and your mental condition. Maybe your parents should consider sending you there.
@Invesigator You're a conspiracy theorist and conspiracy theorists are the biggest nutters and they never can provide any proof for their claims. You might as well wear a tin foil hat and a sandwich board go outside and spout your nonsense.
@Invesigator First off, lesbiabinism is homosexuality, secondly, how does it lead to communism, thirdly, how does any of that lead to atheism, and how does that lead to anti islam, if atheism is against any religion, its against all, remember, we dont play favourites depending on which invisible friend you believe in. Lastly, have you not noticed that most of the non muslims who speak out in defense of moderate muslims are atheists, its the right wing christians who are attacking islam.
Latum, why do you put so much stress on the comments and not on the fact that the rapist women & stripper girls got away with it and that the penis-cut-off-woman received a ridiculous punishment(much much lower than what a man would get)?
I'm female and I was never laughing at that poor man. I guess I'm a feminist but I suppose I'm a masculinist as well because I am anti-circumcision and believe that men being raped shouldn't be seen as funny. NO RAPE should be seen as funny. I may be one of your few female subscribers, but so far there hasn't been much I disagree with you on (not including peanut butter or cats or silly things like that). But all the important stuff... I agree with you.
Yeah, pretty much. Of course all these women know men they wouldn't want this to happen to, but a *stranger* who's a man probably deserved it...
Sexism against women is a terrible thing, but at least it gets addressed. Sexist attitudes against men are almost never addressed because being expected to "take it like a man" and be too tough to ever complain is part and parcel of the sexist expectations thrust upon men.
@FishofMuu The only reason I know is because I have a client that watches it and my scheduled time to see her is right after the show... I usually catch the last couple minutes and a whole replay because my client thinks it is wonderful. When she told me about the reaction to the man losing his penis and she was laughing, I had to tell her how inappropriate that was and why... then I got in trouble with my boss for saying something so forward to a client.
Can you remember Andy Gray being sacked from SkySports? A group of men laughed at a female linesman, this is much less serious than this event. However, it is always the case. Men are meant to be 'thick-skinned' and take the brunt of jokes. It's okay for women to be attacked.
It's just the way the world works, it's not the way it should be, but it just happens to be the case. I completely agree with you.
I was watching "The Steve Wilko Show" and the guy was claiming he was drugged and raped. The response from the host and audience was laughter and disbelief. Although turned out he was full of BS. This showed how people in general don't think men can be rapped and laugh when it is brought up.
Until hollywood, and a few celebrities, make it PC to have sympathy for men, we won't have it. When feminists stop being only about women and go back to their desire for equality for the genders and include men, we won't have a concern for men's rights. Until men learn to love each other the way women do, this won't be a great place to be male. It is why conscription registration still exists as to possibly enslave men into another male holocaust.
gdcat777 5 days ago in playlist Genital Integrity
Men ignore the pain of other men because they are indoctrinated with the idea that if a real man wants to be considered so, he must not have sympathy for another man. As far as genital mutilation is concerned, many mutilated men defend their scars because they have scars and want to repeat the cycle of sexual abuse. However, some are brave enough to be honest, like you and me, to realise the pain of other men. The feminist movement is about women and not equality. I don't like most feminists.
gdcat777 5 days ago in playlist Genital Integrity
On this issue.
adrinalus 1 month ago
I agree with you I'm a man.
adrinalus 1 month ago
You know I am just now watching this video again because I ended up linking it in a conversation about MRAs, and really, that comment about Axe body spray really makes me wonder about how Axe is marketed. And I mean I say that as some one who uses a lot o Axe products. But think about the same commercial with a women and being assaulted by a bunch of men and the response that would get. Really no mater what angle you look at this things really dont peace together well.
RomeoCo 2 months ago
Bottom line, we now live in a society where a couple of mentally I'll psychopaths are allowed to go on live tv and laugh at a man who has been severely sexually tortured and humiliated.
THAT IS SICK, and shows women's true colors.
If you wanna have a voice google "CBS complaints" and you can make a complaint on this episode of the talk.
Also one of the psychopaths is on twitter @JulieChen. Feel free to bombard the bitch's twitter account.
American women are sick brainwashed fucks.
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caliguy999 2 months ago
I agree with you completely. Good video. Keep it up. Maybe if enough people discuss this, things will change. I applaud your good efforts. Kudos.
vuturistic 6 months ago
I really appreciate your intelligent opinions. Keep it up.
johnnyboy3327 6 months ago
...at that point, it is no longer "mere" sexual assault, but child abuse. When it trickles down to children, arguably the most vulnerable demographic in any society, there's a fucking problem. And for there to be so little of a public reaction - the first time I had heard about it was when I watched this video, and I'm two weeks late - is complete and total bullshit. This is definite red flag.
And I cannot believe that mother didn't press charges.
conejaverde 6 months ago
My little brother is ten years old - I really can't imagine what my reaction would be, if he were to be pinned down and stripped, humilated, and traumatized by a group of older girls. To be perfectly honest, that incident outrages me far more than some California woman sexually mutilating her husband ever could, even if that sounds wrong and even if the situation is far more severe...
conejaverde 6 months ago
I think it comes down to societies views on gender roles, men are supposed to be tough and women are supposed to be weak. So crimes on women are percieved worse because their the 'weaker' sex.
vaseline162 7 months ago
You know, I was waiting for you to make a video about this, but the day you uploaded this, my computer broke.
I agree 100%, this situation is not something to chuckle over or just ignore because the victim is a man. This is a violent crime against a human being by another human being, plain and simple. It boggles my mind that I haven't seen this ANYWHERE except a few videos on Youtube. I8<
RedMiel 7 months ago
I'd assume that no one's mad about it because we all generally realize that women have been forced to be subservient to men for the large part of the last 100,000 years and have only recently been deemed nearly human. Even today males usually dominate business and politics whereas women are basically exploited. They are also the victims of far more sexual assaults.
HorrorIllogium 7 months ago
@HorrorIllogium "for the large part of the last 100,000 years and have only recently been deemed nearly human."
That's not true. They were discriminated against, sure, but there was never any doubt concerning their humanity.
"whereas women are basically exploited."
Examples?
"They are also the victims of far more sexual assaults."
So because it happens more often to men, that makes it okay to laugh at it when it happens to men?
LatumWay 7 months ago
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HorrorIllogium 7 months ago
@HorrorIllogium Sorry, I meant to say
"So because it happens LESS often to men, that makes it okay to laugh at it when it happens to men?"
Do you agree with that statement?
LatumWay 7 months ago
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HorrorIllogium 7 months ago
@HorrorIllogium Then fuck you, you disgusting waste of a human being.
LatumWay 7 months ago
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HorrorIllogium 7 months ago
@HorrorIllogium I'll bet. Cunt.
LatumWay 7 months ago
@LatumWay Oh the vitriol.
HorrorIllogium 7 months ago
Know why people don't take you guys's mens rights vlogs seriously?
TJ argues women are responsible for preventing rape, thus blaming them. He doesn't understand feminism, doesn't quote mainstream modern feminists yet somehow can indict them. Oh and he also thinks that ignoring sexual history is assuming men are guilty.
and you praise him??!
I say again, go fuck yourselves.
onlyAerik 7 months ago
@onlyAerik I don't agree with everything that TJ says, and I pointed out in this video that I think his assessment concerning the role of feminism was incorrect. All I said I agreed with him on was his disgust in the way this situation developed.
I suggest you watch my video again and this time, take the time to actually listen to what I did and didn't say.
LatumWay 7 months ago
@onlyAerik He quotes active, regular everyday feminists. Perhaps not the famous ones, but definitely common ones. Also, LatumWay didn't claim to agree with TJ on all womens rights / feminism issues; he actually says at 2:30 that this is not feminism's fault.
MrMultiPat 7 months ago
So far the only idiots caught thinking the situation was funny were the assholes on 'the talk', which is a rip off of 'the view' with the express purpose of being The view if all four hosts were morons all the time.
And this is an indictment of society? How come you don't indict society when they say stupidass shit about anything else?
I call bullshit.
onlyAerik 7 months ago
AND GUESS WHAT?
the biggest risk factor for murder for women is pregnancy, or breaking up with a man. It's really common for angry ex boyfriends and ex husbands to assault and murder women. And you never near it. Because we're that fucking casual about it.
You say if it were the other way around, people would be enraged. Except it happens often, and nobody gives a shit.
You can all go fuck yourselves.
onlyAerik 7 months ago
@onlyAerik There probably are cases of sexual violence against women that go under-reported. I'm very much aware of that. But A. there are certainly examples of sexual violence against men that go unreported, due to the stigma attached to being a male victim, and B. my contention was not that violence against women doesn't go unreported a significant amount of the time. My contention was that violence against women would never be laughed at in this way on national TV. Thats all I said.
LatumWay 7 months ago 5
@onlyAerik Such as?
LatumWay 7 months ago
Putting aside dopey women on a chat show laughing - my first reaction to this was 'what did this guy do to deserve this? How much of an utter bastard must he have been?"
No-one else seems to be asking this question. The just blame her. I put this to someone at work who said "well I think they'd only been married a year" - well obviously one year isn't enough time to beat or psychologically damage someone, clearly.
On the other hand she might be a completely violent psycho. Food for thought.
geffel 7 months ago
@geffel They were actually married for six months, and I've not seen any evidence, in police or news reports to suggest anything other than she is a completely violent psycho. Assuming that it must have been his fault may be an indicator of this particular brand of sexism, directed at men.
LatumWay 7 months ago
@LatumWay
Righto. I've certainly known plenty of mental women..especially since I moved to California. I think it's something they put in the water.
meanwhile your closing comments reminded me that Sand Francisco is putting a ban on child circumcision to the ballot. I'll mail you the link.
geffel 7 months ago
@LatumWay
I should reititerate that no-one I've spoken to abotu this story, male or female, has sided with the woman or thought it was funny. There's been a unanimous response of revulsion and anger directed at the woman. Twas just I, subjugated by feminists as i have been over the years, that jumped to the conclusion that the man must have been beating or otherwise terrorising her.
geffel 7 months ago
@geffel How much of an absolute cunt must she have been for a guy to cut off her genitals and tits and burned them in his barbecue?
BoozyBeggar 7 months ago
@BoozyBeggar
Well this is why I wondered about her motivation. What drives someone to do that? It's either a case of terrible abuse drove her to desperate measures, or, as you say, cunt percentage+mental level ratio...there's probably a logarithm or something to work out how much of a cunt she must have been.
geffel 7 months ago
You're a student, aren't you? So what time in the afternoon was it when you got up?
geffel 7 months ago
@geffel No comment.
LatumWay 7 months ago
you make a fantastic point. and the worst thing is on that show they talk and laugh about similar things all the time. and i think it is just because of the idea that men are just stronger, bigger, etc. than female. in 9 times out of 10 when something happens to a women they are immediately characterized as a victim.
its an absolutely terrible thing.
again, great vid.
zentouro 7 months ago
Cntd. It is, in my view, a form of victim-blaming. I don't think it is even consciously done in most cases, but the humor comes from the fact that a "weaker" woman was the aggressor and the "stronger" man is the victim.
Seriously, this is classic TPHMT. Male victims of abuse are ashamed to report it or seek help. Women who behave aggressively are "bitches", but men who are perceived as weak are in jeopardy of losing their masculinity altogether. I could go on, but you're right, it isn't fair.
Kestra84 7 months ago
Ok, I have a whole lot to say about all the points you've raised (all excellent!) but here is just one I think you didn't address. Why aren't more people talking about this? Why is this situation (and hundreds others like it) horrific when the victim is female but humorous when the victim is male? I think partly because the image of a man or boy as helpless, dominated, in need of defense and aid, is a direct contradiction of how most people (and most men) construct their image of masculinity.
Kestra84 7 months ago
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AfroMageman 7 months ago
@latumway I agree with you one hundred percent. I was appalled and absolutely livid when I saw the footage of 'the talk'. I can't believe the lack of people that are pissed off about this. I think gender issues have reached a point where men need a lobby, and a movement too.
YoungLifeVices 7 months ago
I was utterly enraged by what I saw on that show. I have seen a lot of genocide and murder on that news of mine, but nothing made me more disillusioned with the human condition than seeing a lot of women laughing at a man being horrendously mutilated.
I was angry. Very angry.
salamirterra 7 months ago
I've called this "subjugation" with regard to women who hurt female causes, so I guess it works for men who hurt male causes (like the right to have a penis, or be free from genital mutilation).
TheLonelyImmortal 7 months ago
With your brilliant mix of sense of humor, logical thinking, and bits of harshness, perhaps you should start a Youtube... er... Meninism movement? Penisism?
I'd say Masculinism but it sounds like a word thrown around at bodybuilding tournaments.
Testicular fortitudism? I'm grasping at straws here.
WolfGuyX 7 months ago
I totally agree. Excellent video. Thanks for it :)
harsanity 7 months ago
Great video. I totally agree. Rights are rights. Abuse is abuse. I think that if we are truly serious about equality, it shouldn't be viewed as women's rights or men's rights. Gender is irrelevant. Rights are rights... Mutilation of anyone's body by another person is abuse. Discrimination based on gender, race, religion, etc. is all still discrimination. I don't give a shit what group or category the victim may fit into.
Devilock07 7 months ago 10
I can understand, even if I do agree, why women laughed at the cutting off story. Its because it seems that a lot of women jokingly or in anger threaten to cut off their partners penis, so these woman feel like they can relate. I also believe that there's a whole 'crowd mentality' thing, where if one person laughs, everyone else should. I do believe firmly that mens rights should be more important. People think of men as strong. Well men are weak too. They need help as well.
loonypants1 7 months ago
I don't think there should be an uproar over jokes made about anyone's personal tragedies, male or female. I can imagine all sorts of humorous quips that could be made about a woman who got her breasts cut off, and I laughed at many a Bobbit joke back in the day. Obviously there's a time & a place for everything, but jokes about the misfortune of others can be hilarious; if anything, it's the hypocrisy aspect of situations like this that's the problem, not the joking.
army103 7 months ago
i think there will always be an imbalance of this sort of thing
dustinjr1993 7 months ago
The sad truth is that men police each others behaviour and there is a lot of peer pressure to conform to this stereotype of what a man should be. A man who shows any kind of emotion is considered less of a man:( This attitude is self destructive and that is why a lot of men are to afraid to say "hay don't say that about men that's sexist."
fivecrownsful 7 months ago
I understand every word you say, but for some reason I cannot get the same level of anger. You are 100% correct, and logically I should be just as horrified as if the gender roles were reversed. But I am not. Why? Not totally sure. Logically I know you are correct. And typically I find it easy to dispose of any social training in favour of logic. So why not on this issue? Is it possible that biology is actually a factor here? Is it possible we are wired to empathize more with women?
morganbath 7 months ago
I'm horrified that anyone would laugh at that crime. I wish there was a way to convey the horror of what happened to this guy. Clearly, she is a nutcase and he had good reason to be divorcing her. Whatever his reasons, he did not deserve permanent mutilation.
FranWins0827 7 months ago
I coulda swore I commented on this video...
CJCA915 7 months ago
The reason feminism is a valid scapegoat here is that this is the social climate of male/female interaction that they have been advocating for years. I dont think most feminists would advocate the mutilation of anyone, but socially speaking, women could not be viewed as equal or superior to men if males were not derided and made to look like evildoers deserving of whatever comes their way. Feminism may not be the reason those ladies said what they said, but feminism is what set the stage for it.
ThoughtfulAtheist 7 months ago
Stop complaining about it on Youtube and do what I did. Write to the sponsors of the show, let them know that you find it disgusting and that you can no longer think about their products without being reminded about how it was presented on a program for which they are paying.
That is the way to really have an effect.
curlew0609 7 months ago
@curlew0609 for anyone who's interested in doing this, there's a link for this on Nellididdle' video
watch?v=t8Tj_jKui1g
DeeDemonwitch 7 months ago
Personally I think Sharron and anyone who laughed ought to be branded. With a branding iron. "I think abuse is funny" right across their tits/chest.
Bobbiethejean 7 months ago
Well, it's so clear to me now. You're my favorite youtuber!
SyncopatedProgress 7 months ago
The majority of child molestations are committed by women. Just chucking it out there.
maggot432 7 months ago
@maggot432
I worked for a victim's assistance agency for years. Your comment just blew my mind, because you're way way off. Some of the offenders used their own sexual abuse as an excuse for molesting a child. But I've known many women survivors of child sexual abuse who didn't grow up to rape their children.
Hereticbooks 7 months ago
As I recall, weren't these SAME 'girls' upset about the woman who had her nose cut off for wanting a divorce? Isn't it strange and silly that these 'girls' on a TV show are comfortable enough to laugh about this being married to MEN who made it possible for them to be there? Silly little girls usually make silly little women......
g15206 7 months ago
I'd agree you are pretty balanced on feminism.
The legacy of the Patriarchal system is part of what keeps stuff like this quieter. Men must be strong, tough, not complain.
What movement would you like? The Mens Rights Movement is an attempt to do this, and not all of them are crazy. Just as the Feminasi's arn't the bulk of feminism, or represent what I'd consider feminist ideals, the mens rights movement could do a lot of good
If MRA's weren't such 'Angry Conservatives' all the time;)
TheBoyFromNorfolk 7 months ago
There's no uproar because most women ARE biased in that way, and men are just not aware of it.
resonantdave 7 months ago
I think we need to get away from mens rights vs. women's rights vs. black rights vs. gay rights and get down to the bottom line.
Human Rights. We are all human beings. Black, white, asian, gay, strait, male, female, athiest, christian, muslim, jewish, british, american...etc.
Spyraleyed777 7 months ago
....I can understand if the guy was a bastard and was beating her to within an inch of her life... and she had cauliflower ear, or broken bones, and feared for her safety...then maybe that kind of response would be understandable...not right or justified, but understandable...Bitch needs to go to prison forever...
Spyraleyed777 7 months ago
The reason why people are remaining silent about this is because people don't want to loose their jobs, and be shunned by everyone. Now why is that you may ask? It's because we're living in a pussy-whipped society. Back in the "good old day", it was men who have all the rights and women were the subordinate gender. These days, in many ways, the roles have been reversed.
Justinfh2point0 7 months ago
@Justinfh2point0 Women do not have "all the rights" It is pretty even here in the states. And, even though most businesses here are working to change, men still make up to 3% more for the same jobs, even when their qualifications are identical with their female co workers. There should be no subordinate gender.
It isn't funny when someone gets physically mutilated, or humiliated like that 11 year old boy.
Spyraleyed777 7 months ago
Well most men don't have the same pscychology women do.
AEVautomatic 7 months ago
@AEVautomatic STFU!
Justinfh2point0 7 months ago
@Justinfh2point0 omg I stated a fact that has been proven and is taught in almost every university. I better stfu before people realize the truth.
AEVautomatic 7 months ago
Can't really miss work to have it done.
AEVautomatic 7 months ago
Actually you can't feel pain the same way after you are born. I'm glad to have been circumsized then for cosmetic reasons.
AEVautomatic 7 months ago
@AEVautomatic You say that now, but I bet if you had a choice in the matter it would be a much different story.
RockoMyler 7 months ago
@RockoMyler well I would have t do it now if they didn't do it then.
AEVautomatic 7 months ago
@AEVautomatic I just wonder if you'd have the same cosmetic preference if you weren't cut shortly after being born. All the same, I don't really have a problem with an adult preferring to be circumcised as long as he does't force his preference on a child, so I guess there's not really an issue here.
RockoMyler 7 months ago
I'm a woman, and I agree with you 100%. This is disgusting behavior and no one, man or woman, should stand for it. Shame on any woman who has laughed at this situation.
Reesary 7 months ago
Funny you say this isn't talked about when just about every video in my inbox is about this subject. Regardless, I feel it's probably the same reasons why no one takes a white person seriously when he claims to have been racially discriminated against. Blacks have been oppressed for so long, and even though things are better today than say 40 years ago, a white person claiming discrimination generally isn't taken seriously. Same thing when men are sexually discriminated against.
TheCurmudgen 7 months ago
just finished watching this vid and had to subscribe to you.
baltashchit 7 months ago
I'm not convinced that there exists such a thing as "the feminist movement". I've never met two feminists that agree on what that means, and some of them have just plain incompatible views. I'm reluctant to use it as a label and would rather go case by case on this.
arsenelupin123 7 months ago
I think that most people don't do what you do. Think about if the tables were switched would we be outraged? That's the problem with a lot of things actually not only when it comes to men and women.
notyetaladie 7 months ago
I'm angry about it. I've already written several advertisers to that show, to let them know that as long as they advertise on a show that could behave this way, I will not be buying their products. There are a few of us women who aren't laughing about this shit.
I am also strongly against circumcision without consent, unless it is medically needed.
Some of the lack of outrage may stem from the idea that men have to remain stoic, and only show the accepted range of emotions. Just a thought.
fizzybgood 7 months ago
Sexism is a double edged sword. It cuts both ways. I don't find it funny at all that a man was mutilated. I was disgusted by what "The Talk" women had to say. I don't watch that kind of crap, but have seen the clip. When it's a woman doing hideous things to a man, it's never treated as serious as when a man hurts a woman. So many people treat it as a joke. If a 13 year old boy is molested by a female teacher, people make stupid fucking jokes about it. Like it's not serious at all. Sick.
Roseybaby63 7 months ago
I am a woman...sad that I have to state that, but anyway...I would seriously, if given the choice of being raped or having to watch someone get their dick cut off, would choose being raped in place of them being mutilated in such a way...castration of any kind makes my stomach turn, and that anyone could do this to another human being makes me sick.
brianlover926 7 months ago
It seems to me that male's reactions come out of the stereotype that men have to be the tough guy. Men joke about it because you're supposed to be tough, and there is a perception that the tough guy wouldn't let his dick be cut off or let himself be stripped. Stereotypes can hurt men and women alike.
ski1080s 7 months ago
@ski1080s yeah, pretty much this.
Alas i think that part of the reason that you won't see this getting tons of attention may be that in some form men are afraid of getting angry about this due to the possibility of being labeled a sexist.
DoYouReadSutterCane 7 months ago
Hey, you didn't tell us that one thing in TJ's video you disagreed with!
himethisisme 7 months ago
@himethisisme
2:24 he said it pretty clearly.
Atheistcat2004 7 months ago 2
@Atheistcat2004 I am a dumb.
himethisisme 7 months ago
@himethisisme
It's all good, it's not as bad as looking for your keys and finding them in the pants that you are wearing :P
Atheistcat2004 7 months ago
There are actually a few small Men's Rights groups.
minusRobert 7 months ago
To be honest I think the reason it hasn't really been talked about is because the news is focusing on other things at the moment. Wrong but true, also something similar happened back in the 90s except the penis was discovered and reattached. It's not "new enough" or w/e.
I find it crude, vile ,disgusting humor; if I watched the show this would cause me to stop. However, so long as the crime itself is prosecuted do a really few jokes really affect anything?
UnlimitedApathy 7 months ago
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UnlimitedApathy 7 months ago
There is still a feeling of men being protectors-but only protectors of women. To many men, being humiliated by a woman is emasculating. And to stand up for someone who is emasculated seems to somehow be construed as emasculating. Perhaps this is a stretch, but it seems an argument along these lines may be made: the more men fight to uphold feminism, the more they neglect their own gender and belittle the feminist cause.
MichelaLee 7 months ago
There's a culture that men are supposed to be thick-skinned and not "get their knickers in a twist" over anything. It's the idea that getting outraged over our rights is seen as "weak" and unmanly. It's linked to the reason that so many male rapes go unreported. Do a search for male rape in Congo or Zimbabwe.. most of the articles will talk about the shame factor and men's reluctance to draw awareness to the issue.
antonc81 7 months ago
I think Sharon was wrong in her nonchalance, that said, the audience laugther could have been due to feeling uncomfortable. The people could be laughing "at her", not with her.
Other than that, I got the sense you may have confused the issue. Cutting someone's genitalia off against their concent is extremely wrong no matter what sex you are or what circumstance. But I'm not sure joking about such tragedies merits social movements.
Thought experiment: what if it was a hermaphrodite..out of text
FatLingon 7 months ago
1. It is absolutely disgusting, appalling, and awful that ANY group of "women" would laugh at such a horrible thing. I am in complete and utter disgust for women who would condone this and/or say its a joke.
2. At the same time, I'm a bit offended at the fact there are SOME men who think that ALL women would laugh at such a thing. That's an insult to sane women like myself.
3. Like you said, it is not "feminism's" fault at all. That's dumb.
4. I COMPLETELY agree w/ everything you said.
fruitikay 7 months ago 17
@fruitikay "Feminism's fault?" I'm a feminist and I don't think it was a bit funny.
curlew0609 7 months ago
@curlew0609 I suggest you go read my comment again. That is all.
fruitikay 7 months ago
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FatLingon 7 months ago
One news article I've seen on this had a comments section full of responses from women assuming a priori that he must have "deserved" it (because men are beasts made for chopping up if you get sick of them). As though that's just the NATURAL consequence of divorcing your wife. As though it's natural to assume that HE did something wrong rather than considering that maybe the psychopath who drugs, binds, tortures and mutilates men, may not deserve a man! Fucking backwards thinking.
PerilocutionAZ09 7 months ago
of course, when a woman does it, there is no outrage, but if a man does it, then he is shunned by just about everyone- that is hypocrisy at its finest
denverfan97 7 months ago
Women are callous, immoral creatures and in spite of this men are such gullible fucking idiots that they believe whatever women tell them. Both men and women are bad and men are responsible for not calling those psychos out before it got this bad and women are responsible for not being able to control themselves. Only evil pieces of garbage would laugh at human mutilation.
Popadibs 7 months ago
We teach our boys to never lose, never surrender.
Then we're shocked by massively higher suicide rates in men, or how often men don't seek medical intervention.
This is why there's a double standard, it starts before you can talk and it hurts a lot of people, people you'll never know are hurt.
ShallowBeThyGames 7 months ago
I think all issues that are ignored by men regarding their own welfare can go back to the constantly-pushed and ignorant understanding that if they complained, they "wouldn't be men". Honestly, it's consistent with MGM and all these other news stories. "It happened to me and I didn't feel it" is a great example of the obvious psychological defense, non-sequitur in nature, to detract from what is actually happening and to avoid complaining and to stay a "man" (whatever that means).
wizardsbane 7 months ago
the problem i have with a men's right movement is essentially the same problem i have with women's rights movements. it shouldn't be "them" versus "us", comparing what "they" have to what "we" have. it should be about making all human beings fall into the "us" category. what's the point in creating camps? this goes for all bigotry issues, really.
fivesilvercoins 7 months ago
Fuck this is so messed up. What the hell is going on? How can people be that hateful?
Aresftfun 7 months ago
This is I realize soley my personal view but I beilieve the reason that women are allowed to get away with such clearly cruel behavior shown by the lack of empathy is that men tend to blame the victim more. I know thats a sweeping generalitzation I try to avoid these but men are less sympathetic to male victims because I think they each secretly think, "No woman could ever do that to me." Outrage requires enough emapthy to put yourself in their place. I don't know many men who want be there.
wombofdoom 7 months ago
Men's rights activists were talking about this pretty much right away. I'm not saying everyone should be a men's rights advocate, but more men should at least be paying attention to what men's rights activists are saying. Feminism has basically monopolized gender discussion in society and it was their responsibility to bring this to the public and they failed. This is why feminism is bullshit.
TruTV 7 months ago 3
Men have issues of feeling like they are not MANLY if they complain they have been abused...Laughing is easier.
Viracocha711 7 months ago
... and much of where modern feminism (and masculinism, though it has no real majority political following that I know of) falls short is that instead of fighting this core group of prejudices that restrict both men and women to their respective cultural role-playing, they try to polarize the issues by painting one side as victimized and the other as perpetrator. And even the most reasonable among one side hesitate to speak first against the everyday problems that concern only the other side.
klutterkicker 7 months ago
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klutterkicker 7 months ago
I was thinking about this a while back and I realized that a lot of what we experience as obstacles to men's equal treatment -- the perceived expendability of men (their body parts and even lives), the tendency to assume men are guilty of violent crimes or at blame for their divorce or not good for taking care of children, etc. -- come from the same group of prejudices that are responsible for various mistreatment of women...
klutterkicker 7 months ago
This reminds me of some article on tumblr, where a man tried to rob a woman who owned a hair salon and she tied him up and raped him for days. People were posting positive comments on it like she was some kind of fucking hero. I lost faith humanity that day.
sunakochan69 7 months ago 5
I tend to agree with xxxthepeachxxx, that feminism should be viewed as a movement for equal rights, what it has morphed into is a movement for female superiority. I'm a feminist in the original sense, that of equal rights. And there is definitely a double standard at work, that only females can be victims, and when victimization happens to males, it's just funny. It's the product of making females the sacred cow, which happened accidentally, when trying to secure them equal rights.
gustjorodedheo 7 months ago
I think another user on youtube had a similar view as you did. check out /watch?v=yauKPGd12cM
CerexFlikex 7 months ago
I agree with everything in this video, man. Scary shit.
TalkingWigHead 7 months ago
@LaturnWay: You brought this to my attention ... and i AM outraged ... but because you handled this so well ... i faved your vid instead of making an own one ... i am not that fluent in english anyway. Thanks, Sir.
waldegg 7 months ago
I was watching this with my headphones out, and my feminist brother said that you were wrong. I still agree, but I hate having feminist brothers, and I'M THE GIRL IN THE FAMILY and I'm not a feminist, I belive in equal rights.
FrackMeister 7 months ago 3
@FrackMeister Did he give a reason as to why I was wrong?
LatumWay 7 months ago 2
@LatumWay No, he just said you were wrong and left. He's kinda different if ya-know-wut-I-mean.
FrackMeister 7 months ago
@FrackMeister He said you were wrong about "if it had happened to a women" part. He thought if there was a group of men laughing at a women having her clitoris cut off that people would laugh with them. feminists....
FrackMeister 7 months ago
@FrackMeister Then your brothers aren't real feminists. True feminists believe in equality, not superiority.
exxxys 7 months ago
I think the reason there isn't an outrage is, as you suggested, because it happens more rarely... when has it happened before BTW?
I'm not saying this makes it OK to laugh at it. It doesn't. But it should be a good explanation as to why there isn't an outrage - because it is considered an isolated incident which won't happen again. Why would anyone bother themselves with something that's unlikely to ever get repeated (or rather, what seems won't get repeated) and which hasn't happened before?
boenrobot 7 months ago
Wasnt he cheating on her?
Tuckercrew 7 months ago
@Tuckercrew I'm not aware of that, but even if he did, it's hardly relevant to the case.
w35m4n 7 months ago
@w35m4n I really dont care his dick was chopped off
Tuckercrew 7 months ago
How many men and women in our group have made videos on this topic? I ask because there are two that I know of made who are women that taKE A LOT OF SHIT for being feminists.
Cheers Christine
christinepeace 7 months ago
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Um men do that shit to their wives that try to leave them all the fucking time. Its just not talked about publicly. One crazy woman cuts off her cheating husband who filed for divorce from her's dick is supposed to be a real problem we all need to focus on? Gimme a break! Take a fucking number dudes.
iremythpurr 7 months ago
@iremythpurr aaah ...sweet moral relativism
waldegg 7 months ago 3
And how often .... and THAT'S the point here ... actual violent crimes against women get pulled into the (western) media as a subject of humor?
waldegg 7 months ago
@iremythpurr I think its interesting that you bring up the fact that he was cheating... like justified what happened.
And I never said that this doesn't happen to women. It may even be the case that it happens more often - I don't know. My point was, people are shocked and sombre about it when it happens to women. When it happens to men, its a joke,
LatumWay 7 months ago 34
@iremythpurr Actually, we do talk about it all the time, all the time. There are governmental institutions dedicated to violence against women, there are shelters all over the place, laws, indeed, violence against women--as a topic--makes up a large part of the Women/Gender Studies debates. So, don't claim it isn't talked about. Here is a rare instance where violence against men is being talked about. Its rarity and the brutality of the crime is why it is being talked about at all this time.
wintereis57 7 months ago 3
@iremythpurr Upload any video of a man under any circumstances mocking the mutilation of a woman on television along with rousing laughter from male audience members and I will be glad to shut up and take a number. But in the absence of being able to do so perhaps you might want to reevaluate which side of this issue you really want to defend.
harussell 7 months ago
@iremythpurr Typical feminist shaming... NO WHERE - NO EFFING - WHERE has it been stated or PROVEN that he was cheating. He wanted a divorce. Furthermore, let's just say he did cheat, you somehow find that particular act to be a justification for mutilation/attempted murder? You are one sick f88k.
TMOTS
themanonthestreet 7 months ago 10
@iremythpurr Really? Got any stats on that?
I suspect it's just like the breast cancer issue where more people die of prostate cancer, but boobs are a girly part so more money gets raised for it, etc.
If a man was sexually mutilating a woman it would be national (worldwide) news and there would be a pouring out of outrage from men and women alike. These stories are always big, even when they happen in 3rd world countries.
People are just getting sick of people like you playing victim.
MrTruthAddict 7 months ago
@iremythpurr So it's OK to laugh when a woman gets her bits cut off?
n3rdm4n 7 months ago
@iremythpurr It's not about focusing on the problem of wives mutilating husbands at the expense of every other problem. It's about recognizing that it is no less an act of violence than any act of violence against women.
MntlWard 7 months ago
when I heard about this random guy getting his cock chopped off I locked myself in a closet and cried my eyes out while sucking my thumb. first bobbit, then this guy. its a crime spree that is spreading all over the world. join me at the MY DICK MY RIGHTS rally on september 11 in New York. the madness has to end.
Slapnuts6931 7 months ago
@Slapnuts6931
lol.
iremythpurr 7 months ago
@Slapnuts6931 Oh, there're lots more cases than bobbit. If you go on wikipedia about all the cases, there's tons of em. 90% of them were in asia, which, i'm like, wtf, why?
AfreensHair 7 months ago
@Slapnuts6931
Goodness, I came here thinking even one act of genital mutilation/attempted murder was one too many and not a laughing matter, but your sarcasm has surely set me straight, good sir.
bowlsallbroken 7 months ago
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agree agree agree agree agree agree agree
mrmyxlptlk 7 months ago
I am Muslim and hate feminists. Feminism has been a long held goal by the founder of the Bavarian Illuminati i.e. Adam Weishaupt.
Feminism = Lesbianism = homosexuality = communism = Judaism = Zionism = Neo-conservativsm = atheism = anti-Islam
Invesigator 7 months ago
@Invesigator I know a nice place with padded walls and people who can look after you and your mental condition. Maybe your parents should consider sending you there.
Azraelseraphim 7 months ago 3
@Azraelseraphim You think I should be institutionalized? For what reason?
Invesigator 7 months ago
@Invesigator You're a conspiracy theorist and conspiracy theorists are the biggest nutters and they never can provide any proof for their claims. You might as well wear a tin foil hat and a sandwich board go outside and spout your nonsense.
Azraelseraphim 7 months ago
@Invesigator You are a brilliant example for the dehumanising and mind-distorting effects of religion, thank you.
waldegg 7 months ago
@waldegg Not all Muslims hate feminists. I live in England.
Invesigator 7 months ago
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I did not claim that all muslims are like you ... i just stated that you are a good example for what happens when the religion-thingy goes wrong
waldegg 7 months ago
@Invesigator First off, lesbiabinism is homosexuality, secondly, how does it lead to communism, thirdly, how does any of that lead to atheism, and how does that lead to anti islam, if atheism is against any religion, its against all, remember, we dont play favourites depending on which invisible friend you believe in. Lastly, have you not noticed that most of the non muslims who speak out in defense of moderate muslims are atheists, its the right wing christians who are attacking islam.
iseezapie 7 months ago
Fuck women!
Well, no not in the literal sense, Thank god I am a homosexual!
Ewww, crazy evil women.
bhavvv 7 months ago
Latum, why do you put so much stress on the comments and not on the fact that the rapist women & stripper girls got away with it and that the penis-cut-off-woman received a ridiculous punishment(much much lower than what a man would get)?
pwnz0rz0r 7 months ago
Because if men ever talk about male victimization (especially if they claim themselves to be a victim) they are berated.
kinabrew 7 months ago
I'm not for just female rights... I'm for all human rights.
johncrab67 7 months ago
I'm female and I was never laughing at that poor man. I guess I'm a feminist but I suppose I'm a masculinist as well because I am anti-circumcision and believe that men being raped shouldn't be seen as funny. NO RAPE should be seen as funny. I may be one of your few female subscribers, but so far there hasn't been much I disagree with you on (not including peanut butter or cats or silly things like that). But all the important stuff... I agree with you.
shakensilence 7 months ago
Gosh why no matter where I go on the internet i can't escape this story, lol
s07561277 7 months ago
Here is the problem. Men have been turned into monsters
When you see a man standing alone in a park near young children, what is your first thought?
When you see a woman standing alone in a park near young children, what is your first thought?
Men have been turned into monsters, to be feared and suspected and questioned at all times
That's why there is no outrage, it's just a monster getting its dick cut off, its not like its a big deal.
vesman81 7 months ago
@vesman81
Yeah, pretty much. Of course all these women know men they wouldn't want this to happen to, but a *stranger* who's a man probably deserved it...
Sexism against women is a terrible thing, but at least it gets addressed. Sexist attitudes against men are almost never addressed because being expected to "take it like a man" and be too tough to ever complain is part and parcel of the sexist expectations thrust upon men.
bowlsallbroken 7 months ago
Is 'The Talk' like a British 'The Veiw'?
FishofMuu 7 months ago
@FishofMuu The Talk is I think CBS's version of the View.. it is an American show.
shakensilence 7 months ago
@shakensilence Oh.... shows how little I watch TV.
FishofMuu 7 months ago
@FishofMuu The only reason I know is because I have a client that watches it and my scheduled time to see her is right after the show... I usually catch the last couple minutes and a whole replay because my client thinks it is wonderful. When she told me about the reaction to the man losing his penis and she was laughing, I had to tell her how inappropriate that was and why... then I got in trouble with my boss for saying something so forward to a client.
shakensilence 7 months ago
Can you remember Andy Gray being sacked from SkySports? A group of men laughed at a female linesman, this is much less serious than this event. However, it is always the case. Men are meant to be 'thick-skinned' and take the brunt of jokes. It's okay for women to be attacked.
It's just the way the world works, it's not the way it should be, but it just happens to be the case. I completely agree with you.
anthonyjasonkendrick 7 months ago
I was watching "The Steve Wilko Show" and the guy was claiming he was drugged and raped. The response from the host and audience was laughter and disbelief. Although turned out he was full of BS. This showed how people in general don't think men can be rapped and laugh when it is brought up.
cheddar07 7 months ago
I was pissed at the reaction of this psycho wife and everybody laughing at this shit.
gir908922 7 months ago