Exodus Revealed S01E03 - Riddles of the Bible - National Geographic Channel

[vancecarriere]

Grown-ups trying to explain the burning bush nonsense with a BBQ. Observing what "believers" do and say I am so repeatedly disappointed in humans that I want to apologize for our species to the more intelligent primates that I hope will eventually replace us.

[biboy2255]

It's all a matter of faith - that simple.

[die101]

28:42 that kind of wind in real world would have already blown all the isrealites away

[samzcs]

24:30, only Moses lived in the dessert before God called him to deliver his people on the promised land. not the Hebrews who traveled for 40 years in the desserts. -.-

[cornMFbrownie]

a wind strong enough to part the red sea would blow the jews off of the land bridge.

[cornMFbrownie]

he doesnt have proof but he does have evidence. those 2 words define each other. I wonder if he knows that. LOL

[Zalahblue]

Islam? LOL! Guess they have to toss the trash religion in there or get sued by freaking whining crying muzzies even-tho the Islamic BS was invented 600 Years AFTER the Cruification of Jesus Christ which means it was created THOUSANDS OF YEARS after the Exodus. Even National Geographic can't get the islamic history crap right.

[nicelogin2]

If God was able to talk to Moses and asked Moses to confront the pharaoh king, then why wouldn't God just talk to pharaoh directly? And what's with the punishment for all of the innocent people when only one person was wrong doing? Gees... God is driving people crazy!

Dad: "Son, go to the kitchen and grab me a beer from the fridge."

Son: "No!"

Dad: "If you don't, I am going to walk down the street and find a stick, and beat you and your sister and your mom up."

[vidz022]

How can these experts explain Moses accuracy of executing the plague? the miracles? Did he know that its gonna happen? Like for example the water that made a path for them, did Moses know that theres going to be a huge blowing of wind to divide the water or a tsunami to cause it??

[GW74CVN]

ok, I like to know what school/ universities the scientist that used the leaves blower for the separation of the Red Sea, so I can avoid that going to that school. Again, White man have proof themselves to be the world most idiotic scientist, simply for the sake of entertainment, thank you much.

[GW74CVN]

@GW74CVN I think during that time all the Israelites (woman and child) was taught to used leaves blower to do the sand blowing job in Egypt. Then they bring it with them to the Red Sea to used it as Sea Blower :))))

[rendy88]

that's one plump pig

[smarthandsomeguy]

Evidently, the exodus as described in the bible did not happen. I find it disturbing that NG even tries to reconcile fiction with reality.

[phantomf41]

@smarthandsomeguy How do you know that it didn't happened?

[smarthandsomeguy]

@phantomf41 >"How do you know"

To my knowledge, archeologists (except religious fundamentalists) agree, that the Israelites came about by gradually separating themselves from their canaanite neighbors.

Besides the TOTAL lack of evidence for the exodus (and you would expect some archeological evidence of 2 million ppl living for 40 years in a desert that takes a couple of days to cross), there is a lot of evidence pointing to canaanite origins.

(Pottery, script system and a lot more).

[TVScio]

ZZZzzz Atheists constantly taking time out of their day to attack religion does nothing but waste their time. Unless you were one of those kids who would break stuff or scream just to get attention, I don't see what you get from it. Real religious people just laugh at you, those who argue are not religious. Keep that in mind attention seekers... lol

[jamaicanification]

@TVScio the irony is that atheists probably think more about religion than religious people do. Hence all the freakin youtube atheists who sit in their basement all day going to religion videos and either thumbs upping other atheists comments or wasting time talking about tooth fairies. What can ya do though man....

[TVScio]

@jamaicanification The way I see it....chillin in their basements 24/7, they've run outta of shit to watch...and being criticized for being dead weight losers their whole lives...they've chosen to target the people in society who wont retaliate like a 12 year old special ed kid with a helmet.

Just cause the religious freaks make the most noise, doesn't mean the majority is like that. People need to respect each others beliefs as long as they're not hateful or prejudice... religious or not.

[jamaicanification]

@TVScio i hear you man. But hey, these new atheists dont even care. Its like they put 2 fingers in their ears like a bunch of immature 3rd graders and scream 'blah, blah, blah'. the thing is that the more traditional atheists like marx, engels, hume and the others, while they had faults in their arguments, they used logic and reason, and took the question of god seriously. these new atheists now just when they speak they sound like the ravings of an idiot child

[jeebersjumpincryst]

@jamaicanification hell yea man! Im an atheist and Im embarrassed by the fundie atheists! well said n thumbs up!

[jamaicanification]

@jeebersjumpincryst yeah. We have to be vigilant against fundamentalism on both sides :). Thanks thought man. You just prove that not all atheists are aggressive, just like how not all religious people are aggressive

[otaku3d]

@jamaicanification yea, internet people is shame. People that gives opinion is useless, you better sit on your church and remain quiet wile the preacher feeds your medicine

[jamaicanification]

@otaku3d What the hell are you talking about?????????????? What does me sittting quietly in Church have to do with the fact that many internet atheists are some of the most idiotic people on the face of the planet and just troll on every youtube forum or yahoo answers cause they have no life?

[otaku3d]

@jamaicanification that my friend , it is called: social networking, an open forun to disscusion, that is beating closed media. Christian Preachers and islamic preachers troll people, troll politics and troll science. They have large groups of mind controlled people both sides , every side say "the opposite is work of the demon". Fundamentalist religion hates criticism , they establish : "disagree with my god and you are evil". In an open forum your religion will not get the silent acceptance

[AtheistToothFairy]

Once again we see how these believers try really hard to shoehorn some vague evidence into their mythology, all while ignoring the evidence that clearly would be there if such myths were true.

[AtheistsAreSkeptics]

@AtheistToothFairy

The Exodus, whether it happened or never happened, only tells us how evil and unforgiving the evil God of the evil Bible is.

[AtheistToothFairy]

@AtheistsAreSkeptics

I couldn't agree with you more!!



[forlatagate]

@AtheistsAreSkeptics the hebrews made an agreement with thier god,they dealt with it so why can 't you?.if anybody is evil,your evil.and the hebrews gos does forgive,

[imation879]

@forlatagate how are we evil? please tell me because i think im a pretty good guy. We just dont believe in what you believe. Wheres the harm in that?

[AtheistsAreSkeptics]

@imation879

We are evil? LOL I didnt said that.

What I said is, the Bible and the Bible God are EVIL.. but not you..

[jamaicanification]

@AtheistsAreSkeptics

3)The Mesha Stele that describes the Revolt of king Mesha

-" Omri was king of Israel and he oppressed Moab for many days because Kemosh was angry with his land. And his son replaced him; and he also said, "I will oppress Moab". In my days he spoke thus. But I was victorious over him and his house. And Israel suffered everlasting destruction"(obviously they didn't suffer everlasting destruction)

[AtheistsAreSkeptics]

@jamaicanification

Firstborn BABIES??

Dude, did you read my comments properly and understood it correctly? Its no wonder why you cant even have proper understanding of your evil Bible, you just keep reading without trying to understand anything...

Which part of my comments did I said something about "firstborn babies"? LOL.. I SAID, innocent firstborn Egyptians, but nothing about babies :P

Cont..

[otaku3d]

@AtheistsAreSkeptics yes , innocent firsborn Egyptians are not babies, just animals. for the isralel´s god

[AtheistsAreSkeptics]

@jamaicanification

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Want to learn more about the Immoralities of the evil Bible and your evil God?

Exodus 2:12 - "... he killed the Egyptian and hid him in the sand."

- Moses murders an Egyptian. I see this as outright immoral, evil deeds can never be eliminated by another evil deeds.

Moses saw an Egyptian beating an Israelite slave, he then tried to stop the beating by committing a murder.

The worst part about this is that GOD DID NOTHING, He just sat back and enjoyed the show.

Cont..

[jamaicanification]

@AtheistsAreSkeptics moses killed the Egyptian because the egytian was whipping that israelite to death. Tell me something, back in the day in the African slave trade, if you saw a plantation owner beating an African slave almost to death, and working him to the point of starvation, and then the slave retaliated and ends up killing the master, is that slave a murderer, or is he just responding to the oppression on beatings he's getting?

[otaku3d]

@AtheistsAreSkeptics no, god made moses the gang leader, this murder was a gang "initiation" protocol , (you know , that "hard" thing to do for your gang). like Abraham was initiated in this gang, by accepting to kill his son. Twisted minds are the moral seeds

[AtheistsAreSkeptics]

@jamaicanification

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And how bout this??

Exodus 12:29 - "... at midnight the LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in..."

Its so clear isnt it? Your evil God murdered innocent firstborn Egyptians (not babies, LOL), just because the Pharoah wont do God's will..

This is how present-day Mafia Druglords would do if you dare oppose him. He'll cut you and your family into pieces.

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[jamaicanification]

@AtheistsAreSkeptics second, when we talk about the plagues of Egypt, they were sent on Egypt as a nation because Egypt was collectively responsible for the enslavement of the Hebrews. Thats why its a nation wide thing. third, if would trust infidel.org or those websites, ive checked them and they aren't that good. Fourth, i respect your right to be an atheist too, i dont hate you. Im just rebutting your claims

[AtheistsAreSkeptics]

@jamaicanification

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Should I still continue? Theres still to many of them, this could take me forever! Let me just give you a few websites giving details about how evil the Evil Bible and your Evil God is:

evilbible(dot)com

infidels(dot)org/library/moder­n/donald_morgan/atrocity(dot)h­tml

I dont want to be drawn in again on a long debate about this shit, you probably wont listen to me anyway.

I suggest that you re-read your Evil Bible.. and try to understand it unbiasedly.

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[AtheistsAreSkeptics]

@jamaicanification

Cont..

Hey dude, do not misunderstand me.. I do respect your beliefs and your religion.

But that doesnt mean that your beliefs and your religion is spared from my criticism. It also applies to me, you can criticized my Atheist belief all you want as long as it is valid.

I always welcome criticisms, I helps me to rethink my thoughts, my ideas, my standpoint, my decisions, and my future actions. You should be too.

So please dont hate me if I call your god and your book evil.

[TVScio]

@AtheistsAreSkeptics If you're so open minded with your criticisms, you shouldn't refer to religion in blanket statements. Criticize individual bits of religion if that makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside lol but when you talk about all religions as a whole, all you can say about them is what they have in common, and the only things that have in common is live peacefully, help people who are less fortunate, and follow your beliefs with strong conviction. If that makes religion evil..ok

[AtheistsAreSkeptics]

@TVScio

"all religions as a whole.... have in common is live peacefully"

Tell that to the Crusaders, to the Jihadists, to the Terrorists, and to the Islamic Republic of Iran who publicly threatens to wipe the Jewish state off the map.

Also, go ask the Pakistanis and the Indians, ask them whats the REASON why they split their countries into two..

Ask the Hindus and Buddhist in Malaysia, Singapore, and Thailand how they suffer in the hands of "peaceful" Muslims.

And these are just the few.

[TVScio]

@AtheistsAreSkeptics Thanks for the history lesson ? Although I think it's you that needs one...All you're doing is taking bits of history and biasly applying them to your weak argument. With or without religion, humans create war. I can think way more that have been fought in the name of domination. Hell, there's been just as many wars and fights over women...I guess by your weak ass definition of evil...women are also evil....

[AtheistsAreSkeptics]

@TVScio

It is you who said women, guns and lands are evil.. NOT ME :D

I NEVER SAID RELIGION IS EVIL, but I wish I did :P  ..So you should stop putting words into my mouth because that only makes you a "weak ass" LIAR ..LOL

I only said that the Bible and the Bible God are Evil... I am no blind to see that benign religions like Christianity and Judaism are already learning how to IGNORE the immoralities in the Evil Bible, that kind of thing is surely not evil.

[TVScio]

Continue...How someone uses religion doesnt make it evil... that's like saying a gun is evil cause it can kill. But it can also save and defend. Almost like religion, or just about anything in life. There's two sides to everything, you're just choosing to attack one side needlessly.

If anything...maybe that makes you evil...by your weak ass definition of evil that is.

[TVScio]

@AtheistsAreSkeptics oh and hey...don't forget land is evil... Since almost every war is actually fought over land, whether or not there's a holy msg behind the war.

With this new insight, you can spend 16 hours a day trying to curse land, since you clearly have nothing better to do but attack random things :] But at least you have the right target now. "Websters dictionary: Evil; Anything that a war can be fought over" didn't see that bit, sorry.

[forlatagate]

@imation879 everyone thinks of them self in the best light ,i used the term evil for a person violating the truth

[jamaicanification]

@AtheistsAreSkeptics how does it tell you how evil and unforgiving god is? Could you provide and example?

[AtheistsAreSkeptics]

@jamaicanification

Please read the entire book of Exodus. Clearly you are not reading it, or maybe just cherry-picking what you want to read.

The Exodus is not just about the silly story of the parting of the sea, or the talking bush..

IT ALSO TELLS YOU a story of how innocent first born Egyptians were murdered,.. how the Israelites raped, enslaved, and exterminated the entire Canaanite settlers in the "promised land".. which is of course, personally and explicitly commanded by your evil GOD.

[jamaicanification]

@AtheistsAreSkeptics I have read the entire bible. Now, you've repeated the typical talking points that the god of the old testament was this big bad psychotic schizoid that ordered the deaths of babies in Egypt and the rape, enslavement and pillaging of the land of Canaan. Lets refute this. First of the allegation that god killed babies in the land of Egypt(continued)

[jamaicanification]

@AtheistsAreSkeptics Exodus chp 11 vs 4 "and every firstborn son in Egypt will die, from the king's son, who is heir to the throne, to the son of the slave who grinds corn. The firstborn of all the cattle will die also" I heard firstborn repeatedly but i never heard babies. Thats because being the first born does not mean your baby. The average Egyptian family probably had around 5 kids and the firstborn in some cases could be as old as 30 yrs of age(continued)

[jamaicanification]

@AtheistsAreSkeptics so their's nothing in the texts that suggests God ordered the killing of babies in the 10th plague. Second, "how the Israelites rapes, enslaved and exterminated the entire Canaanite settlers in the "promised land". There is no mention of them raping Canaanites. Give me a verse. Second, if they were exterminated, why is it that the Bible records Canaanites living among the Israelites(continued)

[jamaicanification]

@AtheistsAreSkeptics Judges chp 3 vs 3 "Those left in the land were the five Philistine cities, all the Canaanites, the Sidonians, and the Hivites who lived in the Lebanon Mountains from the Mount Baal Hermon as far as Hamath Pass". Clearly they weren't genocided. What people have to understand is that when the old testament generally describes war, it reflects the general Near Eastern War rhetoric of the time(continued)

[jamaicanification]

@AtheistsAreSkeptics I'll give you an example. Joshua chp 11 vs 4 "They came with all their soldiers-an army with as many men as there are grains of sand on the seashore. They also had man horses and chariots". Thats clear hyperbole right there. And ironically from one the the biblical books that atheists like use to say god is a genocidal freak!lol. There are also many examples outside of the bible to back my point(continued)

[jamaicanification]

@AtheistsAreSkeptics

1)The descriptions of Rameses iii during the bronze age collapse when he talks about his fight with the Sea peoples

-"Their confederation was the Peleset, Tjeker, Shekelesh, Denyen and Weshesh, lands united. They laid their hands upon the land as far as the circuit of the earth, their hearts confident and trusting: 'Our plans will succeed!' (obviously they did go across the cricuit of the earth) (continued)

[jamaicanification]

@AtheistsAreSkeptics

2)The way the Merneptah stele describes the conquest of Canaan

-"Canaan is captive with all woe. Ashkelon is conquered, Gezer seized, Yanoam made nonexistent; Israel is wasted, its seed is no more."(obviously Israel still exists)