Chinese 'renegade bidder' thwarts art auction - 02 Mar 09

[Geeeez100]

fucking make france pay for what they did..... china has been to friendly ...... make them feel the anger and wrath of the dragon..

[jackrowet1234]

Oh, and stop following me around, attacking EVERYTHING I say.

Your relentless quest to discredit me, makes you look like an idiot, because you don't even read what I post, and you reply is so irrelivent a feel bad for your service provider.

[ChineseCalligraphy]

I think it's an obvious sack of caque. They're quite obviously China's wares or property.  if they were looted give them back from the standpoint of the civilised world at hand.

Why we need a stuck-up voice over and the display of "An Art Expert" (Do people take that kind of terminology seriously still???) is rather like a 5 year old trying to justify why he stole the biscuits.

Its odd but in these instances one would imagine a bigger international intellectuality. Give back stolen goods!

[jackrowet1234]

Its not "The French" who are selling these things, sure the guy may BE French, but he doesn't represent the people. He does however have very strong feelings on Tibet, and he uses his PERSONAL, not NATIONAL power to influence things. He doesn't like CCP, but I'm sure hes fine with regular Chinese people. If you think CCP= culture, your fucked, bronze heads= culture, your fucked,Chinese history=culture, your fucked. YOU, the Chinese PERSON, RIGHT NOW, represent China. NOTHING ELSE.

[ZhuHongForever]

This person jackrowet1234 canadian goes around shouting abuses, insults, stereotypes

why do you use vulgarities for what? Our country is bad? Is that really ur business? Why don't u do something constructive to your own country instead?

[jackrowet1234]

Fuck countries. My goal is a better WORLD. I will improve Canada, China, Tibet, ect ect.

Please back up you accusations.

I will continue to use fucking vulgarities, regardless of your feelings. Sensthitive boy, aren't you? hahaha.

[skatergeek1981]

@jackrowet1234 Fair enough, if Berge felt so concerned about the welfare of Tibey - they why not make an International statement and GIFT the heads to the Dalai Lama. Bottom line, he's MONEY hungry and no matter the implications, will hide behind any veil to justify it and besides which - the irony of the matter is, had it not been for the lack lustre human rights status of China - I doubt him and his partnet would have an alleged clothing empire to speak of? Aaah - KARMA - don't u love it?

[MingQing]

So...The British and French agree it is okay to steal one item and re-sell it back to its owner? o.O damn i feel sad for ppl in British and French that there now have more ugly history.

[lynne02191]

this is fuckin unbelievable,I hardly to imagine what's in french's head, i mean those chinese things r the loots that french looted from the french invastion to china handred years ago, and now france want to build good relationship with china but at the meantime they publicly put those goods in auction, and said such a ridiculous statement at the end of the video ... if france really want to break the friendship up with china, then say it clearly, and do not do things hypocritically!

[antiquitiesus]

Christie's should be held fully accountable for this GROSS violation of the cultural rights of an entire nation. Regardless of whether we are referring to China or another country, treasures that were plundered from their native lands should be returned to their place of origin. Past wrongs should be corrected. Christie's irresponsible and provocative actions unmasked its true identity - that of a THIEVE that aids in the plunder of other nations' cultural patrimony.

[jackrowet1234]

Some bronze heads woop dee doo. A thirty foot religious icon was completely decimated and buried by the Chinese, and they want some heads that have been in some french homosexuals garden for the last couple of year? Ok, that'll cost yout Tibet.

[havocrein]

What we destroy our self can justifies your stealing? How? What we do with our own goods and propety is our own problem, might it be good or bad, thank you!

[jackrowet1234]

Well if they're not in tact, why do you call them "treasure"?

[Username28469]

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[zys714]

lol what does this has to do with the lamas?

[bjan87]

"I'll only return the stole goods if you would change your national policy because I'm a smelly Frenchman." What an asshole.

[skatergeek1981]

@bjan87 If Berge cared that much about the welfare of the Dalai Lama and Tibet - then why not make a moral statement in support of his alleged viewpoint - and gift it to the Dalai Lama. Bottom line - the queen is MONEY hungry just like the thieving bastards who stole it in the first place.

[hcn9]

WTF!? that guy is saying he will return the goods if china allows dalai lama back?? what a stupid and unrealistic request. someone needs to kick some sense into him

[AntiDefm]

China government should press the crime charge to anyone who owns the stolen Chinese historical relics.

Any owner of stolen Chinese relics should keep in mind that he might be arrested and put on trial some day in his life.

[BruceLeeKickYoAss4]

Very Good job Mr. Cai! I support you and China 100%. These shameless west crook DOGS have the nerve to openly selling STOLEN goods, China should issue an arrest warrant to the current owner of these looted antiques.

Since when a person can sell STOLEN LOOTED items opently like that?? What kind of law/legal system these white trash western filthy DOGS living in?????

[jackrowet1234]

Well at least they're still intact, unlike the 30-foot statue of Guru Rinpoche in Samye Monastery, that was destroyed Chinese Communist sewer rats.

[OrsinoDuke]

lol. you called this as intact? Only the heads left, all other parts of the statues destroyed as well as the whole Yuanming Yuan. Only ill-educated and brainwashed dumb white assholes can call this as intact.

[emceemike]

intact as in the fact they were completely beheaded and ripped off of the strucutre they were orginally built on?

[hcn9]

they are intact? if they are still intact then where is the rest of the body? idiot...

[Stridus7]

France stole a couple head .....

China stole a entire country

[OrsinoDuke]

well, if you really think so, you can always refuse to pay for this 'country' and call for stop if someone wanna auction off this country to raise money for some AIDS funds.

[hcn9]

"France stole a couple head .....

China stole a entire country"

*sigh* another dumb white guy who thinks he understands china's history....

[strongestass]

al jazzera is very much anti china, and I wonder where the sentiments come from?

[logicandfact]

I'm from China and I don't think Aljazeera is anti-china (way more neutral than the US mainstream media)

Aljazeera does not focus on China...they are not experts...When reporting something about China, they have to aggregate info from both the west (anti-China propaganda shit) and China itself (pro-China propaganda shit)...essentially Aljazeera is digging info from two piles of shit...no wonder some of their reporting contains some shit...I wouldn't blame them too much...

[FlatulenceFox]

You're profile says you are from the U.S. What gives?

[logicandfact]

I live in the US

I'm not FROM the US

[FlatulenceFox]

Cool.

[fhahahahaha]

Totally agree with you. In some case, they are even worse than CNN because of their narrow minded religion.

[ronpaulflash]

under international agreement, all culture relics must be returned to their original country without conditions or time limit.

guess nobody is honoring it, especially the french

[jakewangcheng]

The french preaches human rights!? Oh, that's just rich! I mean where were human rights when the barbaric french sacked and arsoned the most exquisite museum in the far east? And today, an offspring of the french lurchers is bidding human rights with two symbols of the notorious war crime commited by his forefathers due to the destitution of human rights! History proved once again that hypocrisy is in the blood of the pathetic Gauls!

[telecake]

Almost ALL "White" nations have tried to attack, destroy China & Chinese people historically. So it is not exactly a suprise to most Chinese that they won't return the sculptures which they looted from China in the first place. And please stop the hypocracy & try to justify the act by linking with the Tibet issue; which is just another twisted logic. All Berge cares is making a fortune for himself, he has no shame by linking the statues with Tibet issue which has no effect on him at all.

[pal2011]

the looting isn't a claim, but a fact. Al-J should not have even reported it as a claim. But the thing is they are not protected under international law and other than international good-will China is not really getting them back.

[robjirasama]

Guy looks like triad...

[JAROSLAVAGINA]

then they go to the next highest bidder?

[mockingarab]

No, they are afraid China might sue and cause political chaos.

[snoopyloopy]

if he's trying to be so influential, why doesn't he PAY FOR THEM then turn around and donate them to a chinese museum or government or w/e?

[mockingarab]

Exactly! What a cheap bastard!

[nikkich01]

This is because those things were stolen from China by the French. France killed thousands of innocent people and burned a palace to the ground because China tried to resist drugs being forced on them. France had already profitted hundreds of times over from this crime, Why should China have to pay for what rightfully belonged to it in the first place?

[mockingarab]

If China was strong enough they should have defended themselves. Too bad, it was part of natural selection. Now we should forget the past so bid on your Artifacts if you want them so badly.

[logicandfact]

I agree with u

China occupying Tibet, Israel occupying Palestine, US occupying America are all natural selections...

Ordinary westerners losing their jobs...outsourcing...is also natural selection.

It is a dog fight dog world...so let's cut the bullshit about human rights, democracy etc...

[davethoven]

survival of the fittest / smartest / better looking

[R3dp055um]

The Red Chinese have no shame.

And their occupation of Tibet is just a disgrace.

Too bad the auction house didn't have security throw him out on his ass.

[xiaoxiao0031]

cai,you are my hero！

[FancyThePitBull]

I dont get it.... two pieces got looted in from china, and how this multi millionaire jerk is saying let the dalai lama return to tibet and he'll return the goods to china?

what kind of logic is that?

[mockingarab]

It's actually a good deal, I would not even have offered a deal like that! the guy who owns them did not loot them, he PAID for them!

[mockingarab]

This deadbeat bidder makes China look bad!

[dd1857]

well look from china..

China and India has been shown in bad light by Christians.....Look at the writings of Evangalist..

And rape and looting of china and india..

You just talk of stupidity...wel they want there things back.. and yes..

FUCK ISLAM

[mockingarab]

China makes a lot of Yves Saint Lauren and other French designer fake shit! so who is looting more?

[mengwise36]

How is counterfeiting the same as looting?

[FancyThePitBull]

and you make americans sound stupid

[mockingarab]

In the West we honor our bids. I have seen people bidding on their own stuff at Bankruptcy Auctions because it belongs to their Family Heritage. STFU, this Chinese bidder is a shame and makes China look bad!

[nikkich01]

Chinese did not go to Western countries, kill their people, steal their treasures, and then try to auction it off. The items being bid on are STOLEN and people were murdered by those thieves. What part of 'Thou Shalt Not Steal' do you not understand? You may use any excuse to put West in an 'honorable' light, but it is obvious you and your ancestors who stole from China do not know how to honor your own God and his commandments.

[nikkich01]

Tibet has been part of China since the Yuan Dynasty, before the Europeans colonized other countries. Now people in the West want Tibet to be separate from China, for China to forget all the crimes their ancestors committed against them, for China to pay for things that were stolen from them. If this was done to your people and country, I doubt you would be so compliant to them.

[Wolfcritic64]

While I agree that there is a legitimate claim by indigenous peoples for the artifacts that were looted from them, it's also a very slippery slope. Do we give the U.S. back to the American Indians?  Does the Chinese communist government have to return the mainland to the nationalists?

[mengwise36]

And the Nationalists would have to give the power back to the Qing Dynasty and Qing to Ming and Ming to Yuan etc etc. The right thing to do is to return the artifact to China or donate to museum instead of PROFITTING from it. The right thing for US to do is to try to help them prosper. The right thing for the communist government to do is to maintain status quo with Taiwan.

[dd1857]

Well My friends Swami Vivaknanada once he was in great Britain and one idiot made him angry and he said the china man will take revenge of what you have done to the asian countries.

Read the complete works of swami Vivknaanda.

He was the modern Buddha of india with Supernaturan powers etc.

So china will rise ..yep this is from INDIA and I know india and china have problems..But india and china were friends for 2000 years.

Well and FUCK ISLAM

[Fontastique]

its funny how chinese talk about shame... a concept that seems to be foreign to them when over the last 50 years they have stolen and copied every single concept, ideas and intellectual property from the west. They steal Billions worth every year by spying, copying and manufacturing the west designs, industrial property and making cheap and dangerous versions that they try to sell back to the west.

yeah, shame on you. Who is the thief now?

You have no creativity. Sad.

[Ezzedeen01]

Operation Paperclip!

[nikkich01]

Then name any productive country that does not use Chinese inventions of paper, compass, porcelian, gunpowder, etc.

Western companies outsourced those jobs to China, which pollute its environment and Western consumers keep buying Chinese goods. If you think this is considered stealing on the same scale as the burning and looting of the Yuan Ming palace and forcing China to pay for opium and reparitions for invasions, then your sense of proportion and understanding of events are biased.

[Fontastique]

Oh, inventions that date back 2000 to 500 years ago... well done China, thats amazing innovation power.

well done

[Fontastique]

No, Pierre Berge said he will keep them

[FlatulenceFox]

I think you struck a cord. They are giving you some thumbs down. That is because you are telling the truth though.

China has long been the capital for the theft of intellectual property. They do make a show of burning piles of copied dvds, software and books. But still they steal billions each year.

[FlatulenceFox]

Seven thumbs down for telling the obviously truth. Bunch of fucking thieves

[maple2000new]

It's good that people are talking about China more and more, either good or bad. It means something. The world will go its way, whether you like it or not. China is rising and it will benefit from this worldwide recession. No country is clean and rules are set up by the winners.

[Fontastique]

Oh and also, the entire proceed of this sale is going to AIDS research, I guess the chinese don't really care for the fight against AIDS.

[ehs790]

bullshit , it going to aids research. Nobody but stupid capitalist idiots are dumb enough to buy this bullshit. Guess your one of them. And you also believe you have freedom too?

[Fontastique]

The proceeds are going to the research against AIDS!!! you dumb fuck !!! read any newspapers...

Also AIDS has just become the deadliest disease in CHINA!!

So perhaps you should stop waving your stupid patriotic dick and be greatful that people are caring about AIDS affected persons.

But that would be too much to ask

[OrsinoDuke]

This act is just like some drug dealers setting up somewhat AIDS fund. Can this clean their crime? French just invent a new way to clean money for the mafia!

[Fontastique]

your arguments are pathetic...

[OrsinoDuke]

lol

[strongestass]

great point

[emceemike]

I sell crack and donate proceeds to help addiction.

[OrsinoDuke]

only legal and clean money can go to research funds in any country. You can not sell looted things and then donate the money. Even your church will not accept this kind of money.

[Fontastique]

The sale is legal, so the money is legal, end of story...

China 0

Berge 2

[strongestass]

fontasique is a fat retarded couch douchbag.

[OrsinoDuke]

I am actually not surprised by the barbarian mindset you have. You are from a country where looters, human traffickers, and drug dealers are honored.

[mengwise36]

Let's say this Chinese makes China look bad. What about selling "stolen goods"? Does that make the France look bad? What about looting? Do you think that made France look bad?

[mockingarab]

Ban Chinese people from bidding, unless they make a huge security deposit.

[mockingarab]

Dead beat bidder idiot! if you bid then BUY THEM fucktard communist. I have seen Antiques changing hands and countries, they have no land, but if you want it so bad them fucking pay for it! what a dishonor.

[nikkich01]

Why should he buy back what the French had stolen from his country?

[geogodley]

they don't look worth 40 cents

[YotJoey]

GO China!!!!!!!!!!!! We should get back what belongs to us Chinese!!!!!!!!!! French should be the one paying the Chinese for what they have done to China and Yuanming Yuan.

[ronpaulflash]

Return it to China! You looted it!

[Type59]

lol

[mrzack888]

Fuck these racist Western art connisseurs.

[enslavetherich]

when it's about art or any other stuff from world war 2.. There are HUGE outcries to give it back to the rightful owners..

Now give them statues back to the Chinese too..

It's already bad enough to know what the French/English/European forces did back in 1860..

One of the rules the Chinese had to accept to end the 2nd opium war :

Allow the Europeans to take Chinese ppl as indentured servants to the USA. To work on the railroad system.

By 1865 they had 1000's of ppl as slaves.

[WKaliber1]

fisting

[melodymaker65]

give them back to the chinese.

[freevictor]

Dalai lama abandoned his tibet, he had choice to return back to tibet. BUT he didnt. He doesnt want the real freedom in tibet, he just want to be a "king". How come this auction issue can be related to tibet!!!! is the french value is to encourage to snatch others belongings? RETURN THE MOUSE AND RABBIT HEADS BACK TO CHINA.

[Reqrezentin]

Ahh, you see into the future? Ok, I will I go out tomorrow?

[Reqrezentin]

Hahahahahah, GO CHINA! Reclaim what's rightfully yours!

[On3Thought]

"Hahahahahah, GO CHINA! Reclaim what's rightfully yours! "

Go INDIANS Reclaim your land.

[Reqrezentin]

Indians have their land....?

[mockingarab]

If you want to reclaim then bid, honor your bid and PAY up! Museums all over the world have Antiques from other countries, they have no land!

[mengwise36]

Why should China PAY for something stolen from China?

[antVally]

Nuke ur mom

short Live The West

[Mine5555555]

looks expensive