The city has the Taylor plan available for viewing, in the Archives department, I saw it in the 80's, they were bold, there was a subway interchange under City Hall that would have been a railfans dream. There are tracks for a subway under Arch street it runs several blockes west of second street, Im not sure for how long, it was for a subway that would go to Southwest Philly.
First of all those curves leading in and out of the Fern rock station and shops are pretty tight curves, and I do not know if you ever rode on the old-original pre WW2 cars ? Your ears would have fallen the F off bro. The cars I refer to you may have noticed were sitting in the rail yard when you rode around the loop, I saw a glimpse of them, that is all that remains of the old fleet, I rode them to school in the 80's, then they finally scrapped them for the Kawasaki's, they used to smoke up to.
I have heard people in Philly refer to it as either, the El or the elevated, it is an elevated railroad after all, I have an old post card from 1904 showing the 42nd. street station in West Philly , the card heading reads: Philadelphia's Elevated railroad, I guess it was a big deal in those days to have an El, so, they put it on a post card.
Yes Philly Has three subway lines... This one, the Broad Street Line, Also the Market Frankford Elavated-Subway, and the Patco High Speed line which Runs under Locust and 8th streets in Philly, crosses over the Ben Franklin bridge, then becomes a subway again in Camden, serving two stations... Then continues out to Lindenwold NJ along a highspeed ROW.
only 3 lines it has? the New York City subway has like a lot of lines such as the 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,A,B,C,D,E,F,G,J,L,M,N,Q,R,S,V,W, and Z and the soon the be T
Are you kidding...comparing NYC to any other American city... Although Philly back in the teens had plans on building a system about as large as Chicago's ... It might even been larger I would have to check. Even so, Phillys system is impressive..and there is talk of a new branch line up the Blvd.
all i know is, no system could beat the New York City subway. ya know why? Cause New York City is a growing metropolis that they would build more lines and perhaps, lines going into long Island, and that would be BIG!
No, they arent building new lines, they are planning to replace certain old and worn out lines, expanding them in certain areas to improve service, it will be one of the biggest projects in New York since the subway was constructed.
The PRT was headed by a man named Thomas Mitten, he was appointed in 1911, Mitten's improvements starting with replacing the older fleet of streecars with the new Nearside cars, aka Peter witt cars, one of his appointees was named Taylor, that is the man whom you refer to, one of Taylor's plans came to be. The Broad Street Subway for one. Sears on the Roosevelt Blvd. had a station built in the basement, yet, opposition from local residents for the subway lead to it's demise.
jay but the only reason why they lasted because the m4 came in late and if they would scraped the m3 early then it would be shouttle bus for a long time then the tracks would be renewed all o them
The city has the Taylor plan available for viewing, in the Archives department, I saw it in the 80's, they were bold, there was a subway interchange under City Hall that would have been a railfans dream. There are tracks for a subway under Arch street it runs several blockes west of second street, Im not sure for how long, it was for a subway that would go to Southwest Philly.
italobambino43 2 years ago
First of all those curves leading in and out of the Fern rock station and shops are pretty tight curves, and I do not know if you ever rode on the old-original pre WW2 cars ? Your ears would have fallen the F off bro. The cars I refer to you may have noticed were sitting in the rail yard when you rode around the loop, I saw a glimpse of them, that is all that remains of the old fleet, I rode them to school in the 80's, then they finally scrapped them for the Kawasaki's, they used to smoke up to.
italobambino43 2 years ago
we call it market-frankford line the "EL" not the subway-elevated"
56yuoi 3 years ago
I have heard people in Philly refer to it as either, the El or the elevated, it is an elevated railroad after all, I have an old post card from 1904 showing the 42nd. street station in West Philly , the card heading reads: Philadelphia's Elevated railroad, I guess it was a big deal in those days to have an El, so, they put it on a post card.
italobambino43 2 years ago 3
@56yuoi When you think about it, though, it makes some sense.
sonicboy678 1 year ago
@sonicboy678 yeah you are right it does make sense.
56yuoi 1 year ago
huh the broad street sub is southbound local from fern rock to pattison i live in philly
leahkay12 3 years ago
that's true this is the broard street subway we also have the market-frankford "EL" and the subway-surface trolley lines.
56yuoi 3 years ago
looks like an R-68
ArtyKing12345 4 years ago
this reminds of of the NYC subway. i didnt know philadelphia had a subway!
dahood07 4 years ago 6
Yes Philly Has three subway lines... This one, the Broad Street Line, Also the Market Frankford Elavated-Subway, and the Patco High Speed line which Runs under Locust and 8th streets in Philly, crosses over the Ben Franklin bridge, then becomes a subway again in Camden, serving two stations... Then continues out to Lindenwold NJ along a highspeed ROW.
trackseventeen 4 years ago
only 3 lines it has? the New York City subway has like a lot of lines such as the 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,A,B,C,D,E,F,G,J,L,M,N,Q,R,S,V,W, and Z and the soon the be T
DrSurprise 4 years ago
Are you kidding...comparing NYC to any other American city... Although Philly back in the teens had plans on building a system about as large as Chicago's ... It might even been larger I would have to check. Even so, Phillys system is impressive..and there is talk of a new branch line up the Blvd.
trackseventeen 4 years ago
all i know is, no system could beat the New York City subway. ya know why? Cause New York City is a growing metropolis that they would build more lines and perhaps, lines going into long Island, and that would be BIG!
DrSurprise 4 years ago
hey doc... That was my point... No subway system compares to NYC
trackseventeen 4 years ago
No, they arent building new lines, they are planning to replace certain old and worn out lines, expanding them in certain areas to improve service, it will be one of the biggest projects in New York since the subway was constructed.
italobambino43 2 years ago
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italobambino43 2 years ago
The PRT was headed by a man named Thomas Mitten, he was appointed in 1911, Mitten's improvements starting with replacing the older fleet of streecars with the new Nearside cars, aka Peter witt cars, one of his appointees was named Taylor, that is the man whom you refer to, one of Taylor's plans came to be. The Broad Street Subway for one. Sears on the Roosevelt Blvd. had a station built in the basement, yet, opposition from local residents for the subway lead to it's demise.
italobambino43 2 years ago
there not the lines...but the train services,
the lines are e.g. Lexington Avenue, Flushing, 8th Ave etc
crazyshedlife 3 years ago
@dahood07 bite us S.E.P.T.A Fans
starchedownon84s 1 year ago
@dahood07 yeah
ChaseThatTornado67 1 year ago
did ya ears hurt though?
d2e2n2n2i2s2 4 years ago
It hurted for about a 1/2 hour! I mean, something that day on the wheel or track completely wore out...probably lack of grease...hmm...
Whatever the case is, ain't no NYC subway wheel/track combo could get louder than what SEPTA offered.
ENYoriginal 2 years ago
BTW to the user of this video, can you add the tag SEPTA. Thanks
Julius121081 4 years ago
Those cars have ran out there life span. SEPTA really has to start thinking about buying new cars really soon.
D3Andr3 4 years ago
The Kawasaki cars are not even 30 years old yet. The old Market frankford cars (budd m-3) lasted more than 30 years on the el.
Jayayess1190 4 years ago
jay but the only reason why they lasted because the m4 came in late and if they would scraped the m3 early then it would be shouttle bus for a long time then the tracks would be renewed all o them
jasminwebster 4 years ago
They can last I think several more years, if they make upgrades to the cars. BTW to the user of this video, can you add the tag SEPTA. Thanks
Julius121081 4 years ago
the subway cars the New York City subway have are more than 40 years old! and they still run in good condition!
dahood07 4 years ago
And 2008 will mark the line's 80th anniversary...
marmelmm 5 years ago
and this is the 25th year those trains have been running in this city!!!
videonut33 5 years ago
Thats my subway line! ;)
Jayayess1190 5 years ago
its in philidelphia
subway007 5 years ago
In what city is the Broad St. Line?
hartb 5 years ago