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  • Jeez, you spend billions of dollars building those warships staffed by your most promising cadets, only to have them all blown up simultaneously by some asshole in a mining ship. A MINING ship. That's a damn PR nightmare.

  • I have a question about the first few seconds of this clip (of the ships flying over the bridge ). I recently watched this movie in theaters, bluray and netflix streaming and this scene seems to be a black and white clip. Does anyone if this was done on purpose? I remember when seeing this in the theater, I was really taken aback. Having just rewatched the film, it reminded me. Very curious...

  • the music sends shivers down my spine

  • This is not the Enterprise! This is a Model of the Enterprise melted in a flame broiler at BK! It's but ugly!

  • @Trekfreek You're right. They should have used the original 60s design, complete with its dated toy-like appearance, cardboard sets, crappy sounds and special effects, and lame uniforms! That would have been so much better!

  • @F14ace Glad you agree. OH, wait your being sarcastic. Well first off the sets were flimsy but they were not cardboard nor did they look like cardboard. The props don't look any less like a toy then the props in the new movie. The uniforms in the new movie are the same design as the original show only they have lame ass tinny command badges all over them like they are a three year old’s pajamas. The new enterprise looks like a melted model kit that my little brother made when he was 6.

  • @F14ace The new bridge looks like molded plastic with lights. The hologram view screen was stolen from Babylon 5. The makeup looks like it was slapped on at the last second (shows what the Film Academy knows). The shuttle bay is an erector set. The engine room really is a beer factory. The snow base really is a high school building. The new movie looks cheaper and more like a toy show then the original series! PS. The Sound effects were stolen from Star Trek TOS and SG1!!!

  • You're just upset because JJ Abrams "ruined" your precious TOS. Who gives? The whole alternate reality thing was their way trying, and I emphasize TRYING here, to keep trolls like you at bay. And who cares if the engine room is a beer factory? I'd have preferred a scotch factory myself, for obvious reason. Get over yourself and move on. Fucking TOSaboos. Giving us Trekkies a bad name since TNG.

  • @Renji9031 1st off the only ones giving trekkies a bad name are people like you who will love anything and everything with a Star Trek label on it produced by Paramount. You make me think of football fans that refuse to admit that their team sucks when their team loses every game. 2nd, anyone who has any kind of tasty regarding movies cares if the quality is not up to par with the franchise. This isn’t Doctor Who where they use the same rock quarry for every alien planet. IT'S TREK!

  • @Renji9031 3rd, if you bothered to read all the relevant postings you would know I was defending TOS from a loser Star Wars fan who was insulting the hard work that went into the Original Series!!! I was pointing out to this “A” hole that the new movie has worst sets, worst props and worst uniforms then the original series.

  • @Renji9031 Last, For the 1,000,000 time it is not a parallel Universe it is an alternate time line and David Marcus is fading from existence, just like Back to the Future. Didn't any of you so called Trekkies ever watch "City on the Edge of Forever"?

  • @Trekfreek And people wonder why Stargate Universe was cancelled after only two seasons. It's because people like you won't give franchises like Star Trek and Stargate a chance to evolve. Why not? What's so wrong with new tech? Especially if it works? Get over yourself before Trek gets canned just like the Gate.

  • @Renji9031 You don't get it. If it was the new tech we hated and had influence to stop shows who used it shows like Eureka, Battlestar Galactica (new) and Star Gate Atlantis would have been canceled before the second episode aired. What makes a show good is not the tech put into the show it is storylines and characters; If you don't get those right then it disserves to be canceled. It is people like you who got Fire Fly canceled, not enough tech and no sound in space.

  • @Renji9031 It is you who needs to get over yourself and your wild imagination. If Trek gets canned it will not be because of people hating it having modern effects, it will get canned because the stories are even worst then the horrible story in STXI and people finally realize how bad STXI really is. The truth is if STXI was written without the trek theme in its story it would have bombed in the theater worst then Battle Field Earth. Stories are what made TOS, TNG, DS9 & Voyager hits!

  • @Trekfreek You seem to be operating under the false premise that this movie was not written for Star Trek. You also seem to be operating under the false premise that you can force your opinion on people, and not expect them to force theirs back in order to maintain the equilibrium. Clearly this is not the case. I don't even know where you get off watching Star Trek in the first place when clearly you have the logic of a Klingon.

  • @Renji9031 LOL You’re funny! How is it false premise that this movie is not Star Trek? Let’s consider what Star Trek is according to the late Gene Roddenberry, “I saw Star Trek as a means to address issues that were relevant to the times but were to taboo for Television. I thought that maybe I could get away with talking about sex and where the mind went because it was presented as fantastic fiction.” STXI did not cover any taboo issue, it was in one eye out the other nonsense.

  • @Renji9031 You can like what you want. It is I, not you, who is creating an equilibrium to the issue known as J.J. Abram’s (Jar Jar’s) Star Trek. You and others keep praising this movie like it is the best thing created since sliced bread. I’m just proving you wrong. I’m being totally logical it is you who are acting like a Klingon.

  • @Trekfreek Drop the stick, and slowly, hands in front of you where I can see them, back away from the pulp that used to be a horse carcass.

  • @Renji9031 "...back away from the pulp that used to be a horse carcass" clever and funny but it is not I who is beating the dead horse. Besides Sherlock Holmes beat dead bodies why can't I?

  • @Trekfreek worst thing about J.J Trek is that destruction of Romulus is canon ;/

  • @mindarinas That's not the worst thing. The worst thing is that TOS, TNG, DS9, Voyager and the last 10 Star Trek movies never happened. Their erased from existence if this shit fest of a movie is truly canon. However, considering that Chekov and Pike are the wrong ages, the ships bridges look more like a Disney parade than a bridge and they have Babylon 5 tech this movie can’t be canon.

  • @Trekfreek Now I get it. Your problem is that you didn't watch the episode of Stargate SG-1 where Daniel gets sent to an alternate reality where the Goa'uld have conquered Earth. It is established in that episode, and thus to the sci-fi community at large, that everything that happens can happen in an infinite number of ways in an infinite number of universes. Remember that a reality and a timeline are two different things. Realities can exist concurrently. Timelines cannot.

  • @Renji9031 Clearly, then, if the alternate reality could not exist concurrently with canon Star Trek, then there would have been no basis for its creation, Spock would be dead, and there would be no reason for the Suliban Cabal to exist in Enterprise, which is also canon.

  • @Renji9031 You’re not making a lick of sense mate. Enterprise was a halo-deck recreation of historical events and like most written history it was majorly flawed. Did you even see the last episode of Enterprise? Regardless of how you think of it Spock's history was not affected by Enterprise. Vulcan was never destroyed, Amanda was born, Sarak was alive and your argument is the butterfly effect as understood by laymen not scientists. It's STXI that doesn't fit canon at all! IT SUCKS!!!

  • @Renji9031 Just to make things clear...I'm not just referring to the changes in the timeline. I'm also referring to the events that lead up to the timeline changes and the events that had happened before the timeline was twisted to fit Jar Jar's vision of Star Wars...OPS I meant Star Trek...Honest mistake.

  • @Renji9031 No... I did watch that episode and over a dozen more shows with alternate universes. The problem is with you... You don't get that time and alternate universes are mutually exclusive. You can't enter an alternate universe by changing history. Just like you said..."Realities can exist concurrently. Timelines cannot." Therefore changing the past alters history of your universe, it does not create new ones.

  • @F14ace PPS The Special effects in TOS was top of the line in 1966 and was hand drawn frame by frame over a matter of days. There were no computer graphics back then. If you want to see what I'm talking about watch the fan shows Star Trek New Voyages, especially the episode "World Enough and Time". That show with a bigger budget would make a great TV series or even a series of movies.

  • this scene makes me wanna wathc this movie again and again!!! epic scene!!!!!!!!

  • But it was still a brilliant film

  • JJ Abrams got a few details wrong because the Enterprise was launched in 2245 and Kirk was still young and by 2258 she had been in service for 15 years by then Pike was here second captain and Kirk at this point was Lieutenant Commander and Spock was only a Lieutenant then and Spock served on the Enterprise for 11 years before Kirk arrived and Checkov was not assigned to the Enterprise till 2267 after he graduated from Starfleet Academy and Kirks father so Kirk become Captain of the ship.

  • @MrJDW123 Just one correction. The writers also got Kirk's father wrong. Kirk's father was a colonist just like Kirk's brother. Kirk's parents were murdered when Kirk was 13 years old ("Star Trek tos: Conscience of the King".)

  • still gives me chills...

  • Can anyone tell me about the sound track to this video?

  • @hgill78227 Star Trek young men.

  • @fineladyinhere

    It's "Enterprising Young Men".

  • @hgill78227 yes! shure! they are violins.

  • I remember wanting to stand up and cheer at this scene. Hello again, USS Enterprise. So nice to see you again! :)

  • @SFisher1993 Before this, I had never seen anything related to Star Trek. But when I saw this scene, I wanted to do the exact same thing. That's why I've now seen all of TOS!

  • Good music ! Ugly Ship

  • i hate the jjprise.

  • It's the Enterprise. I got chills when this came on.

  • @prophetic0311 I remember getting chills when it came on, too - that, and the standing ovations in the theater when we finally saw the completed Enterprise. It was like welcoming back an old friend. What really gave me the chills, though, was this: "Moorings retracted, Captain.  Dock control reports 'Ready.' Thrusters fired. Separating from Space Dock."

    To me, a military ship has 3 "great moments:" when she's being built, when she's first launched, and when she's fighting for her life.

  • @CaptainJahangir99 Well that's just your opinion and plenty of people disagree with it.

  • gotta love those fanboys, if it were for you, star trek would be dead by now

  • @Liberare87 Aside from the JJ Abrams films, it is, isn't it?

  • Worst movie main title ever

  • The 1st time we see The Enterprise, right when the music swells? WOW! INCREDIBLE!

  • @whatuswattingat yeah i have to agree. i did not want to see this movie at all and this scene made me fall in love with it. nicely done

  • this song still gives me gooebumps!!

  • The skyline of an futuristic San Francisco looks fanstastic. Is that what the major urban cities of Earth would look like in the 23rd century?.

  • @mayena may think of it this way. Take a look at photos of any major city from thirty years ago and compare them to today.

  • @22centman36 I don't quite understand your response. This suppose to take place in the 23rd century, 200 years in the future. With the Earth's increasing population and the urbanised composition estimating to be 90% in the beginning of the 22nd century, huge multi unit structures would be reality in the cities skylines.

  • i watched this on the friday when it came out....i remember it was packed! but when this scene came on and we saw the enterprise for the first time...everyone...was wooooing all loud and clapping.....it was loud.. i clapped too...

  • LOVE IT

    

  • Whom ever did casting for this movie was just spot on for all the roles.

    Excellent actors throughout.

  • JJTrek is better than Bayformers.

  • the new ship looks like an electric condom. Shoulda kept the TOS version with more modern look. And the blinking blue lights on the bridge utterly infuriated me...I could go on with the many confusing aspects of this movie.

    Dont get me wrong- it was entertaining. As a trekkie- blah

  • @stringerboi too bad you felt that way. I loved this movie and it actually made me wanna watch the original series. I don't like the other ones though.

  • It would be totally awesome if the future will be like this, we can only hope we invent a warp drive.Live long and prosper.

  • The new enterprise is a sexy ship

  • Of corse its not the good old Enterprise, ( because the different timeline ) but if u dont know Star Trek and u see this scene its kind of epic. and if u know star trek just enjoy the scene cause by star trek chronology this would be the first moment u see the enterprise....and in combination with the last scene u can think, now the enterprise is leaving to the legendary 5 year mission

  • 0:46 James Tiberius Kirk first look at, and falls in ove with the one true love of his life: U.S.S. Enterprise.

  • I love the jjprise.

  • SHEER GARBAGE

  • If only there was a button on that bridge marked "Reduce Lens Glare" ;)

  • i hate the jjprise

  • They could have done much better job on the ship. And the music too.

  • @DrZoid99 Really? I thought the ship was more than adequate (here's keeping in mind not everybody has James Cameron's budget) and the music was well-matched. How so?

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  • The Enterprise reminds of me a shark, it's very organic looking. The original one looks like a praying mantis. We're never going to get a modernized version of the TOS Enterprise so anyone who has their hopes up better get with reality. The remastered ship is as close as we're ever going to get, personally I'd prefer a more realistic hollow energy swirling set of bussards on the nacelles instead of an artificial spinning blade effect but ain't gonna happen.

  • I am disappointed at the 'alternative reality' approach that they took in this movie.

    And they've broken a lot of the norms (example: there was never anything going on between Spock and Uhura. It was always Spock and Nurse Chapel).

  • So what if it doesn't look like the original ship? Expecting every single thing in the to be exactly like the original series is ridiculous. I mean, this is a remake for crying out loud! I've never seen a bigger bunch of butthurt fanboys, except for maybe Twitards.

  • action guy and ten others are stuck in 1960s america

  • Oh yeah, awful looking ship. looks like a bug.

  • Bring back the original spacedock from Star Trek III - Star Trek VI. That thing rocked!

  • This horrid film STILL sucks Ferengi balls!

  • REMEMBER, FORGET STAR TREK The Motion Picture, THIS IS MORE EQUAL TO KIRK, FIRST SEEING THE ORGINAL 60'S ENTERPRISE FOR THE FIRST TIME, Which was NEVER SEEN TILL NOW ? Right ?

  • @IndependenceRWB 'More equal' is not grammatically correct. Either two things are equal or they are not. However, it is proper to say 'more equality.'

  • Awesome movie!

  • the orginal cast walks in,

    Kirk: "Who bleached the bridge?"

    Scotty "Why are they serving beer in the engine room?"

    Bones "WHO IS THIS GOD DAMN TEENAGER IN MY UNIFORM!!?"

  • @TheInspector3000 Actually, I get the feeling Scotty had a few alcoholic beverages down in Engineering on the Old Enterprise...Scotch, anyone? ;)

  • @TheInspector3000 Karl Urban (new Bones) is 38. Hardly a teenager. On the other two points I agree, only because I'm used to the way it was not because I hate the way it is now.

  • @GESSO217 to bones 38 is a teenager lol

    but to be serious, the new one is allright, it was fun flashy, and if they're going to do mindless action movies, then do it with a cast that is suit for them (not the TNG crew in First contact and Nemesis)

  • @TheInspector3000 38 in 2232 is like a teenager !  LOL

  • Did anyone NOT feel like cheering--or actually cheer--when they saw this scene?

    It's Kirk meeting the fully-built Enterprise...THE Enterprise, the old girl!

    With Spock and Sulu and Chekov and Crew already aboard!

    And here come Captain Kirk and Bones, and all I can say about this ship and this new crew and this film: "It's exciting!" :D

  • @obiwanobiwan13 Me and several other people in the theater cheered. This was a GREAT scene.

  • Whoa.. Now THAT ship is a beauty!

  • The original is soo much better.

  • Sexiest bitch in the universe!

  • They could make another 100 movies and it will still be just as good,can wait for the next movie

  • It's wonderful how the music really is an effective element of the storytelling in this scene. This scene is so fluently filmed and cut, with no wasted time, and no fillers, it is absolutely fantastic. In this short 2:37 we leave Starfleet Academy, get an awesome reveal of the Enterprise, and are ready to warp out to Vulcan, just behind the rest of the fleet. On a scale from 1 to 10, this film gets an 11 for excellent pacing.

  • nam cuvinte superba sigur o fac la fel pana in 2020. .cu tehnologia warp sa vedem poate se dezvolta

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  • The new bridge looks like " The Apple Store ". Cool ship though .

  • Great music, but an ugly Enterprise.

  • @Techrat3D I figured it was going to look much worst. I wonder who the bad guy will be in the sequal.

  • When the Enterprise came onscreen in the theatre, I stood up and yelled, "YES!!"

  • @lonstar70 did you or anyone else clap when she was revealed?

  • @thisisrumorcontrol Some people chuckled at me, several also did fist pumps and clapped, and my wife told me to sit down!

  • @lonstar70 lol some people just don't understand the love the rest of us have for Star Trek. The Enterprise is THE symbol of this entire franchise and J.J. Abrams did a real good job of building the tension for the big reveal of that beautiful ship. Kudos also to Michael G.'s score.

    What are your thoughts on the ideas for the sequel? Some people have talked about a new Khan or this crew meeting the Borg for the first time. Personally I'd love to see what the Klingons would be like.

  • @thisisrumorcontrol I agree on the music and Enterprise. Big deal, it looks a bit different. Still looks great and the music is astounding.

    As for the sequel... I really don't think Khan should be revisited, and not even thrown in as an Easter Egg or anything. Just leave him alone. No Borg either. Believe it or not, I would like something along the lines of TMP, in only that it was more about big ideas. Bring back the exploration and wonder. Maybe not one central plot but several away missions?

  • @lonstar70 What if.....they do a new tv series based off this film.. Think about it, the original series was popular enough among fans that it lasted 3 seasons, then was later adapted into a feature film that made 9 sequels and 5 television spin-offs. Then after 7 years this feature film reboot spawns a new tv series with this ship and crew. Plus 2016 will be the 50th anniversary since the airing of the original series. A new series with this crew would be a perfect bookend to 50 great years.

  • @thisisrumorcontrol That would be ideal. Talk about a cash cow! And perfect for the fans!

  • @lonstar70 I'd like to see the beginning of James T. Kirk's relationship with Carol Marcus.

  • @thisisrumorcontrol Yeah, but what actress?

  • @lonstar70 Hmmm, thats the hard part. I see 2 options. Either a) a complete unknown, b) someone that J.J. Abrams knows personally that he has full confidence in. It cannot be someone like Megan Fox or Miley Cyrus are any of the typical Hollywood starlets, it has to be somebody that you can see on the screen for the first time with Chris Pine and say "yep thats the one, they nailed it"

  • @thisisrumorcontrol IGN says maybe Gary Mitchell might be the villain...THAT woudl really work well:

    It's early in Kirk and Crew's days, it'd give Kirk a chance to grow more, since this film was really about Spock, and it'd also likely give room for a bit more of a cerebral, traditionally-Trek touch, the whole man-becomes-a-god angle, all the while keeping the fast pace that is Abrams' style, of course.

    I want Mitchell with a hint of the Klingons to set up Crew vs. Klingons for Trek XIII.

  • very cool

  • This scene was really heavy, enjoyed the movie in whole alot. But the music REALLY did the movie. Giacchino is Gooooood xD

  • jim you gotta look a this

  • @toolrocky I might throw up on you.

  • @537CH All of  those lens flares almost made him vomit.

  • damn. That Golden gate bridge was built to last

  • @bambarby

    lol. Yeah, until it gets pwnd by the romulan laser drill...

  • PUNCH IT!

  • This one and The Enterprise-A refit are freaking sexy as hell.

  • Beautiful fucking ship. omfg........I love how the nacelles (how ever u spell it) are stream lined and smooth........I have a model of it right next to me....I just love this one better than the original...

  • Alone the music is simply breathtaking.

    With the scene...with Kirk and bones--with US--seeing the new Enterprise...

    IT WAS AND IS PRICELESS!

    This music just SCREAMS "Welcome home! Here we go again, it's all going to happen again, The Big Three going at it, Scotty banging on the engine, Uhura telling us all we have to know, Sulu and Chekov piloting the ship together...landing parties and space battles, exploration...WE'RE HOME!"

    WE'RE HOME...AND WE'RE BACK! WARP SPEED AHEAD, TREK!

  • I thought this ship would grow on me, like USS Voyager did (when I first saw Voyager, I thought that ship was hideous, too)..But this Enterprise has nothing cool about it...AND what's with all the tubes and water pipes in Engineering? Looks the the engine room of a steam ship! WTF, this is supposed to be the 23rd century they are in!

  • @Quisquellano26 I agree. The outside is awesome bu the inside looks so backward compared to what we have seen. I realize this is an alternate, early version, but still, crappy engine room. The bridge, not sure of my feelings about that.

  • Looks like LCARS will never exist in this timeline! the Bridge has been very much altered by the influence of the future technology! its almost like they've leap frogged the TNG era!

  • Thats a great feeling watching that, I think all trekkie fans would love this.

  • Bring Back Grand Admiral Christopher Pike and Governor Spock in the next Movie. I think Pike had an affair with Uhura's mother anyway which is why he had her daughter assigned to the Starships in his division.....

  • Could they have picked better music for this if they tried?

    NOPE!

    It's epic!

    It's the first time we see the Enterprise.

    It's the first time Kirk sees the Enterprise.

    It's taking James T. Kirk and Leonard McCoy to the Enterprise!

    The Enterprise is BEAUTIFUL, like a mix between the original, Refit, and E!

    And that music just seems to make us remember INSTANTLY the great times aboard the old girl with Kirk and Crew, and says, "Here we go again, warp speed ahead!"

    She is REBORN!

  • Actually , it's not the first time Kirk saw the Enterprise , cos before seeing her ready for take off , he drove to the Shipyard on his Motorbike where she was being built .

    Good Film , thou for me , not as enjoyable as good old Wrath of Khan , but Star Trek XI does seem more enjoyable then the previous Film [ Nemesis ] which also included Romulans .

  • @doctorwhoone

    I've taken dysenteric dumps that were more entertaining than 'Nemesis'. The absolute worst Star Trek film ever.

  • Yeah , i can agree with you on that , i didint enjoy that one much at all , but atleast it did have a couple of moments i did enjoy being Riker and Troy's Wedding Reception , and Data singing " Blue Skies " . The sad part thou was Data getting blown up , but he sacrificed himself on purpose , not get left behind by Picard who at times did get fed up with Data when he keeped on blabbering about stuff .

  • @doctorwhoone if you read star trek countdown datas memorys are transferd to b4 datas body was destaryd but his memory survived

  • god, this movie is amazing. the grandness and beauty of the enterprise ship matched with the majestic quality of the music gets me every single time. brilliant.

  • Did you forget the parking break? lol

  • i love this song the movie the ship nuf said

  • What an ugly ship :) Looks like some type of bug.

    Prefer the original refit. Bring it back please... and too much flair on the bridge!

  • @emenentia Not gonna happen. Classic Trek is dead. This is the way it's gonna be from now on. Quite frankly, the only issue I had with the reboot is Abrams' obsession with lens flares. And he's already said he's learned from that.

    If he can top this one, then the f"Star Trek" franchise will have earned the right to continue to exist. After "Nemesis" and "Enterprise," I wasn't sorry to see it end, but this gives me faith that Paramount won't fuck it up a third time.

  • @cubdukat Yeah I read that too the other day ago about the lens flare....

    I mean, I understand the "need" to adjust it for modern day audiences.... But it's the fact that Paramount really ruined it by trying to make the TNG movies into action flicks... which is what Star Trek was really not about.

  • @cubdukat

    ST:VI you had the collapse of an entire Klingon empire because of an accident

    ST: IV you had a threat of an entire planet because of a mistake that humans made years ago

    ST: II and III you had the events and aftermath of an scientfic device used as an apocolyptic weapon...

    There was really never "one" villain... which is what modern day Trek films try to satire. Old Trek movies tried to rely on philosophical stories that affect an entire civilization, never a definate villan.

  • I was with the best theatre crowd ever when I first saw this! They practically cheered when every character came on, they all laughed when engineer Olsen got fried by the Narada Drill and they shouted and applauded when the Enterprise came on.

    It was MAGICAL!!!!

  • Ah so this is the scene where track 5 of the soundtrack belongs to! Okay, now I finally know! Thanks!

  • JJ Abrams of Star Trek and Christopher Nolan of Batman Begins are somewhat the same. They both took Iconic Franchises and rebooted them very well. They both made big mistake by not taking the wonderful musical score from the old films and applying them to their reboot.

  • @Mah81 At least Abrams had the Star Trek theme playing at the end of the movie.

  • @Mah81 Somehow I suspect that neither James Horner nor Jerry Goldsmith's estate would have let that happen. I think Michael Giacchino did a very good job. If I'm not mistaken, this was his first big-screen film job.

    Personally I'm glad they didn't hit you over the head with the "Star Trek" theme, like Horner was wont to do.

  • Ihave grown up watching Star Trek, and sorry to say I wasn't impressed by this one. All the other shows or the movies I can watch over and over and not really get tired of seeing them. This movie sucked ass I watched it once and had no desire to see it again. A Message to J.J. Abrams put down Star Trek and walk away.

  • it's gonna get destroyed guys, we all know it......

  • One of my favorite Scottie lines -

    "Now that is a well-endowed lady. I'd like to get my hands on her ample nacelles, if you'll pardon the engineering parlance."

    So funny!

  • Hello, people? How can you discuss phaser banks at a time like this?

    It's...SO...BEAUTIFUL...

  • Kirk was so in awe that he forgot he was sick.

  • Ship looks like a royal piece of crap

  • @Moose4975

    Congratulations on making an enemy out of every Trekkie in existence.

    Ouch.

  • @Rosebloom12

    Sorry to burst your bubble but I have been a Trekkie since the early 1970's. I grew up with the Original Series, have all the movies, lots of books and trinkits of Star Trek. I very much enjoyed TNG as well. Most of my Trekkie friends and the ones in my family as well agree with my position and I am not their enemies. You must be quite new to the game to make such a statement. Since we live in a democracy, I can have any opinion I like.

  • best scene in the movie

  • LOL the secondary hull is half shuttlebay!

  • How can you not fall in love with that ship on first sight?

  • @Stigmatainmypants honnestly? compared to the original 1701 and the 1701 - E, it's quite easy not to fall in love with that ship at first sight

  • Greenwood was amazing as Pike. I could definitely see him as an older and more relaxed version of Jeffrey Hunter's character.

  • Agreed. Since Pike on The Cage was tired. "I'm tired of being responsible for 203 lives, and... I'm tired of deciding which mission is too risky and which isn't, and who's going on the landing party and who doesn't... and who lives... and who dies." Now he's more relaxed, seasoned. He still doesn't know why, he just knows he's there.

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  • Can't really explain. Just did the last sentence wrong, because I didn't know what to say. He doesn't know why he's there, but at the same time, he knows.

  • She's a beauty. I just hope they augment her pulse phasers with the traditional, dual blue phaser beams (as seen in TOS) in the most-probably upcoming sequel.

  • Pulse phasers weren't introduced until Deep Space 9 with the Defiant. That was the first mention of them. They made this movie look and feel more like Star Wars than Star Trek.

    As for "she's a beauty"....when paramount retro fit the Enterprise for ST:TMP now that was a great retro fit. The nacelles are too big on this one, the curved nacelle struts don't look right, and the ass end of the secondary hull {where the shuttle bay is} is way to small. In TOS they had garages below that deck.

  • Actually they did have pulse phasers on the original series. Specifically from the episode Balance of Terror when the Enterprise was giving a full spread of phasers against the Romulans. As well pulse phasers were used on Star Trek 2: The Wrath of Khan.

  • well I hate to break it to you but your wrong. In TOS's "Balance of Terror", since it was in the first season and they were pretty much winging what they did, they didn't use the word torpedoes like they should have. Plus they never called them "pulse phasers." Like I said that term wasn't officially used until DS9 and with the Defiant. As for the Wrath of Kahn...those were more like a phaser streams but still closer to the actual phasers we were used to. And most of us took it as such.

  • Phasers fired in pulses in in both the aforementioned episode and phasers fired in pulses in Wrath of Khan.

    And since the phasers were fired in Balance of Terror, THEN in streams, we cannot declare the pulse phaser fire in that episode as non-canon. As well as there is nothing in canon to say the phaser cannot fire in pulses during the original series. Hell, even the remastered used pulses.

    As well in this movie, the pulses of phaser were in streams just like in Wrath of Khan.

  • In what remastered episode did the TOS Enterprise use "pulse phasers?" I have the complete set so let me know the ep & I'll check it out.

    And these new phaser effects are nothing like STII. These are more like laser blasts from Star Wars, nothing more.

  • For some reason it didn't show. It was from the remastered episode Balance of Terror. It can be seen on youtube someplace.

    Also one thing I realized, that the hand phasers are pulsing here like bang, bang, bang, i remembered that in a way (though a weak argument) that they also pulsed when on stun like on Spock's Brain and Whom Gods Destroy.

  • Couldn't find your latest comment on this list here, but the way I see it, they fired the phasers in pulses. The term ..... wait a minute, when did they use the term pulse phasers actually on DS9? The only real time I am aware of is in the DS9 technical manual. But then again I didn't fully appreciate DS9.

  • They were not Pulse Phasers. They were just standard Phasers set to fire pulses. The Defiant class was the first ships to be armed with Pulse Phasers but they were actually refered to as Phaser cannons. Phaser Cannons were about as powerful as a Bird of Prey's Klingon Disruptors and can also be set to fire beams. In the TOS and movies they ovbiously set the Phasers to fire rapidly to get more damage faster than a concertrated beam.

  • You know, I remember in a mirror universe episode when they built the Defiant, I think the Defiant had a phaser beam coming from it, just not from the forward phaser banks.

    But as you said, standard phasers set to fire in pulses. In pulses is the term I emphasize. And it can be argued that the Defiant's phasers only had that one setting by design. No subtly here.

  • I remember it had Beamed Phasers coming from the aft dorsal side along with it's forward Phaser cannons and Torpedoes launchers.

  • Might be a mirror universe variation, not sure.

  • The Defiant never fired it's rear weaponry however it was stated to have aft launchers and 3 Phaser emitters. Most of it's teeth were at the front, 4 Phaser Cannons and 4 Launchers. I think the Mirror Universe counterpart was exactly the same appart from it's absent cloaking system.

  • Nano the Defiant did fire it's rear torpedoes just not on screen.