Just watched this (i am from Melbourne, Victoria, Australia). This video seems the best one as far as technical description and scenery and steam is concerned on Youtube ! We have never had water-troughs in Australia so this is very interesting !
This is all very interesting indeed - not only for the motive power but also for the great variety of rolling stock - along with all other viewers I thank you for sharing this wonderful footage with us - this is a priceless record of events which would otherwise have vanished in the mist of history.
Yes, it's better without the motorway. Ernest marples needed millions of us mugs driving cars to subsidise road haulage. Rail was never inefficient and would be cheap as chips with more electrification.
Well you look at the state of the locos, they were always filthy, but this is the end of steam ,the leaking steam all points to neglect, why mend whats to be scrapped next week
hello all, has some one got photos of the tebay bankers in say 1966 to 1968, i was on loan to tebay shed from carlisle 12B if so could you send copys to me at robert_uk_1942@yahoo.com . thank you for your time .
Wonderful nostalgic viewing of my playgrounds in the 50’s. I lived on Winfell Terrace Tebay overlooking the sheds where my dad was a driver and used to ride on the bank engines especially on Sundays when I could get a good shower at the sheds. (Better than the old tin bath).
I probably should not say this, but boys will be boys and we did at times put small fish or eels we caught in the Lune into the troughs.
Amazing. Lots of things on this are notable. Locos taking on water at the troughs - not too much footage of this exists. So many (all in this film) of the trains are freights on an important passenger line - so much freight moved by rail in those pre-motorway days. Also the consists of the freight trains are so mixed - 16t minerals, 12t vanfits-a-plenty, long-wheelbase ferry-vans going to the continent; a variety of parcels vans, conflats with early containers. A real gem this film.
Fantastic film I was fortunate enough to have a footplate ride on this journey as a child in the 1960's well remember the crew throwing the cigarettes attached to a lump of coal to the singalman at scout green. passing.
they may have been more high maintenence than the diesels that replaced them but by lord, even in their unkept state they still did the job and looked far more majestic doing it.
arguably some of the best action shots of late steam on Shap ever taken, especially the footplate shots, which are very rare. I have not heard clanking side rods for over 40 years, as you don't hear these on preserved locos ( they are too well maintained). Certainly brings back memories of my youth. Also, the commentary is excellent, coming as it does, "between shots2. 10+ out of 10.
Thanks for your kind comments. I used to go up to this area as a boy and saw first hand the beauty and the grime. Of coarse this video was taken before the M6 was built, so it was much more peaceful.
I still go up there regularly and in spite of the motorway, its more beautiful than ever. Especially in Autumn when the colors are fantastic in the Lune Gorge.
A lost world! I remember when going on trains when I was little how there were freight trains everywhere; these views recaptured that time. It was also interesting to see the operation of taking water from troughs. There must have been very few locations where this could have been done.
Stunning footage, best bit surely that filthy dirty 9F giving it rocks yet still despite the scrapyard condition it looks in the fireman has got the valves to lift !
Absolutely beautiful footage really very interesting so a big thanks for uploading it, truly fantastic. 5*s and added to favourite videos. Many Thanks!
I loved this video very much..it was sheer jy to watch and listen to..it was like being transported back to those good old days when you didn't mind getting covered in dirt to be close to real living legends of everyday traffic..thanks..
Superb! One thing that strikes me now is the sheer amount and variety of freight traffic even as late as 1966-8.
The class 4s 75024/6/7 had all been on the Cambrian section as well in the early 60s. I have a rather faded photo of 75027 at Penmaenpool shed taken in 1964! They worked the Ruabon-Barmouth line pretty well exclusively after the GW Moguls faded away from it in 1962-3. The Southern fitted all their allocation with the double chimneys to alow them to deputise for class 5s if needed
Wasn't it horrible in August 1968? I remember visiting the Talyllyn thinking 'It's all over for the big stuff'. How wrong I was. But there was something about the grimy old railway that can't be preserved...
My wife and I enjoyed a run Liverpool St. / Norwich rtn. on Sept 20 behind 70013. Very sure-footed. There has been a lot of criticism of Brits. for being a bit unsophisticated, but they sure made steam and pulled well, I reckon!
I may have given you a wave..... Thousands turned out, weather was fine and the East Anglian beer in Norwich was wonderful stuff. Grand Day Out, Grommit!
5 Stars! Steam just as I remember it as a kid. Great to see engines 'banking'. Some of the later BR Locos featured here would have no doubt been in service until around 1980 or beyond had steam not been ended in 1968.
Im fairly certain that this film was mainly shot between Tebay and Shap Summit and serves to remind us of the 4 Railwaymen Colin Buckley, Darren Burgess, Gary Tindall and Chris Waters who were tragically killed there
on the 15th of February 2004 when a railway carriage ran away down from Shap summit.
Fascinating footage and very nice to hear synchronized sound instead of some of the pathetic attempts at dubbing which marr some old footage. And just think, if Joseph Locke had listened to George Stephenson proposal for a coastal route from Lancaster to Carlisle, we wouldn't have had any of this entertainment amongst the fells! ;o) Thanks, Jo. Thanks RailMon; nice video, thanks for posting.
One fact that was wrong in that otherwise great footage, 75026 was not 1 of a few that had double chimneys, Nearly all of the Southern allocated 75xxx had doubles and so did some Western ones aswell.
I tell you what 75027 got around a fair bit, she was an S & D engine aswell!
My wife's grandad was one of the few drivers on the Cambrian system who prefered 75XXXs to Manors. Nice to see them again as filthy as I remember them.
If people didn't watch the free stuff like i just have.. then I might not actually go out and buy the dvd because i didn't know it existed. This snippet is superb and I have enjoyed every minute of watching it here so put your moany claws away and be safe in the knowlwdge that i will now buy this dvd because i saw some of it on here!
This is some very interesting history here! Very historic in seeing how steam engines were in the 50s and 60s, especially in the midland and northern areas!
The clip features activity in a particularly beautiful part of Cumbria, the LUNE GORGE. There are so many vantage points from which to film steam & diesel hauled trains, its perfect. I posted the clip after seeing 01276 clip of a train on the viaduct at LOW GILL.
Well its funny you should say that LMS Stanier, but I do produce several DVD's. 3 for the East Lancashire Railway for sale at various exhibitions and 2 for the The Duke of Gloucester Locomotive Trust. to generate funds for its upkeep & maintenance. A trailer for one of these can be found on my channel. I will post you a link to it shortly. Many of the clips on my channel are from my DVD's.
Very Interesting
fgh456pc 1 month ago
Just watched this (i am from Melbourne, Victoria, Australia). This video seems the best one as far as technical description and scenery and steam is concerned on Youtube ! We have never had water-troughs in Australia so this is very interesting !
MusicPredominates 2 months ago
This is all very interesting indeed - not only for the motive power but also for the great variety of rolling stock - along with all other viewers I thank you for sharing this wonderful footage with us - this is a priceless record of events which would otherwise have vanished in the mist of history.
bernieholland775 3 months ago
Yes, it's better without the motorway. Ernest marples needed millions of us mugs driving cars to subsidise road haulage. Rail was never inefficient and would be cheap as chips with more electrification.
Isochest 7 months ago
modern life is rubbish...
ricjuk 8 months ago
Well you look at the state of the locos, they were always filthy, but this is the end of steam ,the leaking steam all points to neglect, why mend whats to be scrapped next week
cpmcintosh1 10 months ago
hello all, has some one got photos of the tebay bankers in say 1966 to 1968, i was on loan to tebay shed from carlisle 12B if so could you send copys to me at robert_uk_1942@yahoo.com . thank you for your time .
Mr46238 11 months ago
Wonderful nostalgic viewing of my playgrounds in the 50’s. I lived on Winfell Terrace Tebay overlooking the sheds where my dad was a driver and used to ride on the bank engines especially on Sundays when I could get a good shower at the sheds. (Better than the old tin bath).
I probably should not say this, but boys will be boys and we did at times put small fish or eels we caught in the Lune into the troughs.
integrator14 1 year ago
@integrator14 who was r dad at Tebay i was from carlisle upperby 12b shed i was on load to tebay
Mr46238 3 months ago
Amazing. Lots of things on this are notable. Locos taking on water at the troughs - not too much footage of this exists. So many (all in this film) of the trains are freights on an important passenger line - so much freight moved by rail in those pre-motorway days. Also the consists of the freight trains are so mixed - 16t minerals, 12t vanfits-a-plenty, long-wheelbase ferry-vans going to the continent; a variety of parcels vans, conflats with early containers. A real gem this film.
BaseTurnComplete 1 year ago
what country is that
shigattaganai 1 year ago
thats me on 75024 driving on the shap banker in 1966 i was only 24 ys old i was the fireman , the driver was firing , i am ex upperby 12B man
Mr46238 1 year ago 3
Absolutely wonderful!
Ljotulfson 1 year ago
Fantastic film I was fortunate enough to have a footplate ride on this journey as a child in the 1960's well remember the crew throwing the cigarettes attached to a lump of coal to the singalman at scout green. passing.
ossianuk 1 year ago
they may have been more high maintenence than the diesels that replaced them but by lord, even in their unkept state they still did the job and looked far more majestic doing it.
capmodesty 1 year ago
Excellent nostalgic viewing takes me back over 45yrs ago
christmasduck2 1 year ago
Why did the drivers leave the cylinder cocks open?
upatebo 1 year ago
arguably some of the best action shots of late steam on Shap ever taken, especially the footplate shots, which are very rare. I have not heard clanking side rods for over 40 years, as you don't hear these on preserved locos ( they are too well maintained). Certainly brings back memories of my youth. Also, the commentary is excellent, coming as it does, "between shots2. 10+ out of 10.
waltony1 1 year ago
What can one say but fantastic......even tho i'm a southern man thru and thru you have to admire this.thanks for posting
MiLLwallpaul231258 2 years ago
Thanks for your kind comments. I used to go up to this area as a boy and saw first hand the beauty and the grime. Of coarse this video was taken before the M6 was built, so it was much more peaceful.
I still go up there regularly and in spite of the motorway, its more beautiful than ever. Especially in Autumn when the colors are fantastic in the Lune Gorge.
RailMon 2 years ago
I agree. Wow
thesinglesculler 1 year ago
A lost world! I remember when going on trains when I was little how there were freight trains everywhere; these views recaptured that time. It was also interesting to see the operation of taking water from troughs. There must have been very few locations where this could have been done.
JimTLonW6 2 years ago
fantastic!!!
onetwoeight2 2 years ago
Brilliant!
GavinS1965 2 years ago
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kllsms 2 years ago
Great recordings. Thanks. Very nostalgic for me having been born and raised in Shap.
By the way Tebay is pronounced "TEE BAY" not "TIB AY"
Cheers,
alvanjudson 2 years ago
Stunning footage, best bit surely that filthy dirty 9F giving it rocks yet still despite the scrapyard condition it looks in the fireman has got the valves to lift !
60037 2 years ago
Absolutely beautiful footage really very interesting so a big thanks for uploading it, truly fantastic. 5*s and added to favourite videos. Many Thanks!
UKTrainMan 3 years ago 2
Ditto the above. I love footage like this. It's priceless. Have faved it. Thanks for posting.
LMSStanier 2 years ago
Five Star priceless piece of documentation par
excellence ! ! !
gordon1066thomas957 3 years ago
Brilliant priceless piece of documentation !
gordon1066thomas957 3 years ago
I loved this video very much..it was sheer jy to watch and listen to..it was like being transported back to those good old days when you didn't mind getting covered in dirt to be close to real living legends of everyday traffic..thanks..
Jonny7trainspotting 3 years ago
Does anybody know where you can get British train DVDs in the American format???????
trainboy94 3 years ago
It might be easier to just get a multi-format player. Or you could watch them on your pc :)
160rpm 3 years ago
amazon . com ?
andyg3 3 years ago
Superb! One thing that strikes me now is the sheer amount and variety of freight traffic even as late as 1966-8.
The class 4s 75024/6/7 had all been on the Cambrian section as well in the early 60s. I have a rather faded photo of 75027 at Penmaenpool shed taken in 1964! They worked the Ruabon-Barmouth line pretty well exclusively after the GW Moguls faded away from it in 1962-3. The Southern fitted all their allocation with the double chimneys to alow them to deputise for class 5s if needed
leeky7 3 years ago
Wasn't it horrible in August 1968? I remember visiting the Talyllyn thinking 'It's all over for the big stuff'. How wrong I was. But there was something about the grimy old railway that can't be preserved...
SteffanLlwyd 3 years ago
Boy oh boy..I agree with you about the gimy old stuff statement..it's what made loco's look really used..sounds stupid but..they looked more loved..
Jonny7trainspotting 3 years ago
My wife and I enjoyed a run Liverpool St. / Norwich rtn. on Sept 20 behind 70013. Very sure-footed. There has been a lot of criticism of Brits. for being a bit unsophisticated, but they sure made steam and pulled well, I reckon!
SteffanLlwyd 3 years ago
I watched that from the lineside near Norwich, looked great
Pwndlolhaxbbq 2 years ago
I may have given you a wave..... Thousands turned out, weather was fine and the East Anglian beer in Norwich was wonderful stuff. Grand Day Out, Grommit!
SteffanLlwyd 2 years ago
5 Stars! Steam just as I remember it as a kid. Great to see engines 'banking'. Some of the later BR Locos featured here would have no doubt been in service until around 1980 or beyond had steam not been ended in 1968.
TonyonPiano 3 years ago
great video
thank god people filmed these things, or we would have no archive of them.
andyg3 3 years ago
Im fairly certain that this film was mainly shot between Tebay and Shap Summit and serves to remind us of the 4 Railwaymen Colin Buckley, Darren Burgess, Gary Tindall and Chris Waters who were tragically killed there
on the 15th of February 2004 when a railway carriage ran away down from Shap summit.
Thank you for a great film.
lordmash 3 years ago
Great footage and sound. An excellent insight in british steam. Thank you for sharing this video with us.
turbosauer 3 years ago
Fascinating footage and very nice to hear synchronized sound instead of some of the pathetic attempts at dubbing which marr some old footage. And just think, if Joseph Locke had listened to George Stephenson proposal for a coastal route from Lancaster to Carlisle, we wouldn't have had any of this entertainment amongst the fells! ;o) Thanks, Jo. Thanks RailMon; nice video, thanks for posting.
osnocksdisciple 3 years ago
One fact that was wrong in that otherwise great footage, 75026 was not 1 of a few that had double chimneys, Nearly all of the Southern allocated 75xxx had doubles and so did some Western ones aswell.
I tell you what 75027 got around a fair bit, she was an S & D engine aswell!
moseno9 3 years ago
Excellent post !!
Thanks for this.
From Brampton, ON.
northerner2 3 years ago
My pleasure northener2
Hugh.
RailMon 3 years ago
Splendid stuff! Is this from a commercial producton? If so, what is it? I want more!
hirsutetone 4 years ago
That is really awsome, thank you for posting this footage!
Greetings from Romania!
mihaitudosa 4 years ago
My wife's grandad was one of the few drivers on the Cambrian system who prefered 75XXXs to Manors. Nice to see them again as filthy as I remember them.
SteffanLlwyd 4 years ago
Amazing all that freight!
JimTLonW6 4 years ago
Hey Hugh, these are brilliant and you've got more! I can hardly wait. They've transferred to "digital" so well. Thanks for sharing. Chris
khankadet 4 years ago
Courtesy - B & R Videos!
DADRENO 4 years ago
Yes, and I am sure those of us who bought the original dvd/video would feel less cheated if others who enjoy this clip did the same.
If everyone only watches free stuff, the video companies will stop producing them.
crazyh0rse 3 years ago
If people didn't watch the free stuff like i just have.. then I might not actually go out and buy the dvd because i didn't know it existed. This snippet is superb and I have enjoyed every minute of watching it here so put your moany claws away and be safe in the knowlwdge that i will now buy this dvd because i saw some of it on here!
metadyneman 3 years ago 2
what is the name of this DVD?
DoctorTankEngine 2 years ago
This is some very interesting history here! Very historic in seeing how steam engines were in the 50s and 60s, especially in the midland and northern areas!
ryskinner 4 years ago
a massive pat on the back for you mate, any more please post!
Sadistic12 4 years ago
I will do my best. To be honest, I have lots of good stuff. Its knowing where to start.LoL
Hugh the RAILMON.
RailMon 4 years ago
The clip features activity in a particularly beautiful part of Cumbria, the LUNE GORGE. There are so many vantage points from which to film steam & diesel hauled trains, its perfect. I posted the clip after seeing 01276 clip of a train on the viaduct at LOW GILL.
Railmon.
RailMon 4 years ago
If you have more of this then have you considered creating a dvd or series of dvds to then sell?
I'd buy. I'd be first in the queue of course.
LMSStanier 2 years ago
Well its funny you should say that LMS Stanier, but I do produce several DVD's. 3 for the East Lancashire Railway for sale at various exhibitions and 2 for the The Duke of Gloucester Locomotive Trust. to generate funds for its upkeep & maintenance. A trailer for one of these can be found on my channel. I will post you a link to it shortly. Many of the clips on my channel are from my DVD's.
Regards from Railmon.
RailMon 2 years ago
This is a lovely video and indeed so interesting.
cattleman6420012000 4 years ago 2