Not the best audio quality, but I can make due. Thanks for uploading this series!
I like how the show makes a point of saying the protagonists basically cannot beat the Clans in a straight up Mech fight. Even when they came up with a pretty decent strategy, the tech gap simply brought the clans over it. The protagonists only got away by shear luck. It's far better than a show where they barrel through easily.
@Bluecho4 Add to that, even when massive reinforcements show up, its pretty likely this would have been a turkey shoot for the clanners. The only thing that saved them here was Clan military protocol
@SasNolan True, their animation studio was definitely higher-grade, but I always hated how everyone had the back of their head shaved.
Then there's the little story of how Playmates (maker of Exosquad toys) blatantly ripped off the Madcat/Timberwolf design for a "Heavy Assault E-Frame". There are toy catalog pictures of it out there online. Thankfully, they were sued before they could get away with it.
@SwordRoy The clans do break their own code, but only if their enemy doesn't honor the code of battle. The clans fight proxy battles to reduce the amount of resources used and civilian deaths for both sides, whereas the IS generally fights all out to win, d@m the cost and the civilian death count.
If you want more information, look for one of the battle tech wikis.
@strawberryalarmcl0ck I seem to remember merc groups using Mechs against civilians getting them blacklisted. And most Sphere states/Clans (certain Periphery states and the Smoke Jaguars excluded) consider Mechs overkill against civil unrest and prefer to use standard infantry or Battle Armor at the most.
@iHateSpoilerz Not exactly. My brothers and I did a test on this a long time ago, Clan Mech vs IS Mechs. Clan Mechs can pretty much take on any IS equivalent Mech, and any up to 20-25 tons heavier than itself. The Mauler, like the Vulture/Mad Dog, is a long range unit. However, the V/MD packs pulse lasers for close range. It's also far faster than the Mauler, which makes it harder to hit. Verdict, They'd be about toe-to-to with each other, but my money would be on the V/MD.
@Siolfor80 Oh,ok. The My Mauler weapon configuration was in Mechwarrior4. Stuffing Clan/ER weapons in your mech allows you to own other Clan mechs. Figures,lol
@iHateSpoilerz Yeah, that tends to make a HUGE difference. Given this fight takes place before the Inner Sphere got it's hands on enough CLan Tech to tip the balance, the Vulture/Mad Dog was a beast of a machine. The Timberwolf/Mad Cat even moreso.
I honestly would have liked this show if the cut the terrible-looking CG and stuck with hand-drawn goodness. I respect them for taking a chance though... Shame it didn't work out.
@crazy88boss For a show of the mid 90s, the CGI was cutting edge. I enjoy it still. Refreshing from some of the CGI crap you see in today's cartoons for the kids (most of which is not even needed)
@Gallowell True enough, but the CG wasn't really on par with the animation imo. I guess they needed it to stand apart from similar-looking cartoons. GI Joe comes to mind...
I remeber when this series came too childrens channel wich I recorded on VHS(wich was worthless to begin with) The series was really good but sadly never seemed to survive past season one!
gribae you got it all wrong no one weapon is better than the othere one must master combo of mechs that work well with each othere look at the hunchback it need long range cover a archer is best for this mission and the arch can count on the hunchback for close CQC if you fight me I kill ever one of your mechs out right
I think that they should of started in the series in the beginning. So the people who do not know Battletech know what it is all about. I have just started reading the books and they are wonderful. BTW- I used to play battletech and if I read the books before hand, it would of made a lot of sense then. labelashavoc (:~>?=
Yeah, that's true. IS weaponry ain't all that good — especially the ballistic weaponry. I also have to admit that when I make mechs they generally have energy weapons and/or missile weapons. I hardly ever use ballistics.
@TheFrostedLlama My favorite is actually an AC/20 combined with a gauss rifle... its like bringing a grenade launcher to the gunfight at the OK corral...
I find it interesting that they could drop a Maddog like that without destroying it. I mean, that mech doesn't have jets, does it? So a drop like THAT would be worse than a failed DFA attempt. ;)
Heh. I have some hilarious stories about failed DFA's. They involve jumping from elevation 6 buildings and failing entirely. But those are for another time.
@xxMachineGunKellyxx I like how those CJF mechs jump down when the dropships are descending. I'd be laughing out loud if they busted their actuators from that.
If they followed the norm of BT/MW, they should have busted them. Even from that height, with jump jets, they couldn't land without seriously damaging something.
I guess this is the result of it being aimed at a children-based audience though.
These Clanners are breaking their own code of Honor, The Zellbringen! 2 clanners to 1 innersphere Mechwarrior, shooting at the backs of their enemies, and shooting downed mechs; Clear violation of Zellbringen. Our Ares conventions I can understand, but their own code of honor? At least we "freeborn scum" almost always follow the Ares Conventions...
Zellbrigen was different for each of the clans. 2 25 ton lights engaging a 75 ton heavy was considered perfectly fine under Zell. As was maneuvering to hit the rear armor on an enemy and shooting a prone enemy.
You're probably getting your info on Zell from Sarna. Word to the wise: They're a wiki, their information is not accurate. You're better off reading the novels and CBT sourcebooks.
@SwordlordRoy The Falcons were always notable for their lack of adherence to Clan ideals when fighting "lesser" warriors. It's only a minor breach if your opponent can barely be considered a warrior at all, quiaff?
@robspartan117 zell is still in effect if the IS retreat, the only record of zell not being in effect and as such, no code of honour would be during huntress :)
@HespIsJohnGalt no, zell is broken when a force turns tail and retreats and shows their backs.
actually a lot of clans gave up zell before/during operation serpent and bulldog. ghost bear and wolf were two of the first to throw that idea out the door.
@robspartan117 Clan Jade Falcon was perhaps the last to give it up (if they even gave it up at all) since they were the most bound to the ideals of Clan ways and life.
@Gallowell thats debatable at best. each clan's society is different, and each believes that their way of interpreting of how a clan should operate is correct.
the jade falcons gave on many occasions, just it was always after they got their noses bloodied. thats why for a while they didnt attack anyone, they provoked too many people and ended up being pushed back into their territory with only a few clusters to protect it all.
@SwordlordRoy well remember that the clans didnt think that the spheroids didnt have the honor to deserve such an honor unless it was against a force that was known to at least be able to hold its own against them.
@robspartan117 I clame my right of a trial of bloodright as myself being in holding of the bloodname Roshak. Seeing on how it is not up to you to decide if I have a clame or not, your opinion matters little. The decision is up to the Clan Councle.
(MW4:Mercs is free now days so if you think you've got what it takes, message me and we'll bring this to an honor duel. Of course, provided we fallow the rules of honor strictly and appoint a councle of equals)
@depholade I'll gladly take you up on an honour duel. Any time, and to any of your specifications. I'll even use a Dasher against any of the Assault-class you and others like you prefer to choose.
I've taken down 2 Dire Wolves and a Timber Wolf in nothing but a Crab.
@SwordlordRoy Super late comment (sorry about that) but this cartoon was known for basically throwing the canon to the winds. Battlemechs in space, Clanners acting like mercs, you name it.
@Significantpower Yet BattleMechs CAN operate in space - as evidenced in the game: MechWarrior 2: Mercenaries and detailed in a number of BattleTech and MechWarrior books
@Significantpower Mechs can operate in spaces, just need jump jets or magnetic tethers (both mentioned in the books). The clans in the series didnt act like mercs, they always go to a planet and ask, "With what will you defend yourselves?" How the IS planet leaders respond is up to them. If the more illegal groups saw an advantage (since the clans operate on a caste), the illegal groups could get away with what they want.
@octoslut Magnetic tethers are essentially muscle wire bundles (like the same stuff that allows mechs to move) that allow a mech to operate in Lo-G environments. If they ever float off, they put energy to the tether, and snap back to the surface they're attached. As for jump jets, they require time to build up reaction mass. Mech dont use fuel at all (except low tech versions). They can jump for as long as needed, but only until the reaction runs out.
@Siolfor80 i am a huge gundam fan but prefer the battletech universe to gundam universe. reason is simple mechs are not overpowered, have more variety in models then gundam, plot compared to most gundam series is better. do you know if they make mech model kits???
@octoslut Model Kits, miniature games (Battletech, Mechwarrior: Dark Ages), books (which is where i found out about the tethers), etc. It was pretty popular back in the 90s before wizkids bought it out (and honestly screwed it the hell up). The best known kit is for the Mad Cat/Timberwolf (the mech with the chicken legs and a box of missle launchers over each shoulder). Whether or not they still make it, I dunno . . . it was about $80 about 10 years ago.
@octoslut Sorry about that, dunno who does/doesn't know the mechs and their designations. As far as reviving the universe, there was a rumor going around that FASA is trying to get the rights to it again. True or not, dunno.
Bah! you innersphear surats are the nerds! your fire power is inferior to ours! we will make you regret that comment! i challenge you to a trial of equals!
Hey!! Its was acting like packrats and scavangers that helped us tip the clans tech advantage. "information is ammunition " Like Major Adam said. And we got ALOT OF INFORMATION from strippng down every single bit of clan tech would steal with our freedom born hands. yeah thats right I SAID FREEDOM BORN.. ya damn trashcan babies. Ya know eugenics even if done right can lead to genentic illnesses of the brain..... Guess that explains clan arrogance.
Im saying in the Games inner sphere weopons do less damage. and Clan weopons do way more and there recycle time is quicker. Clan Lrms can lock onto targets from further distances.
In the games, books AND animation, everything about the Clans is superior (except their attitude). But that is only because they didn't spend the last 300 years bogged down in the endless Succession Wars and could concentrate on technological advancements.
The only mechwarrioirs ive ever played are 2 and 4. I dont remember much from the 2 but i still play the 4. Im not very good at it XD. Love these cartoons!!! Hope tehy bring em back but w/ a bottomless budget lol.
Well, I find the whole casting the clans as your typical evil exceedingly cliche and boring; not to mention against the classical battletech depiction. Then again, I guess this tv show was marketed to 8 year olds. And of course we can't have ambiguity in our good and evil when it comes to childrens television shows; we need to dumb everything down.
Good point, there are interesting points for the Inner Sphere/Clan political system.
Though since the Clans are Socialists, I wouldn't want to live under a pure Caste-type system where your family's labor assignment is on family history (so if your dad's a factory worker, you will be also.)
If I lived in the fictional Battletech universe I'd prefer living in the Federated Suns or in the Free Worlds League pre-Word of Blake jihad era. Rasalhague would also be nice- the only true I.S democracy.
You didn't read what MetaVita was actually saying. The Battletech storyline doesn't really paint the clans with the "Snidely Whiplash" brush that most cartoons depict.
I'd say the most horrible thing that ever happened in the history of BT was the Kentares IV Massacre - though that is definitely not suitable for a Saturday-morning cartoon.
Excluding the canonical errors and sloppy animation in parts, the animated series isn't too bad. Could have been much better, but what more could you do with a limited budget. :D
It should be noted that the original founder of FASA and his new company now have the rights to Mechwarrior and other FASA interactive titles again. This happend recently (december 6th) and if you do a search you can read all about it.
This new company is Smith & Tinker, I believe. Seems to be out to develop gaming on teh internets instead of the "old fashioned" tabletop pnp stuff. I always loved the rich universes on those FASA IPs. Should be interesting.
This was one of the major goofs of the series: The mechs take alot to overheat, and overheating does not equal explosion. However, if they redid the series right now, it'd be fucking awesome.
If you are new to Battletech try reading: Battletech: Legend of the Jade Phoenix, Volume 1. I beleive that this book is the best intro to the the B-Tech universe. It got me "HOOKED" , and I still read it. I am still re-reading all my "Tech" books, they are the best works of sci-fi literature... In my opinion!
I should clarify that depending on the age group, some sci-fi books will be better suited than others. I agree, the Dune series is very ceribral and the sci-fi is non-par, but then again, it requires a mature audience. My comment was directed to a younger audience, and as such Battletech is among the best.
I have to agree with the Doctor on that: Aidan Pryde is given god-like luck, and so many of the fight scenes defy anything resembling normal gameplay (by that I mean the *original* board game, not the Mechwarrior PC games). I enjoyed The Jade Phoenix trilogy at age 15, when I didn't know what good reading was.
Seriously, Michael Stackpole and Robert Keith Jr. are both much better authors, in my opinion. They also contributed MUCH more to the development of the Battletech universe.
I have to agree with the Doctor on that: Aidan Pryde is given god-like luck, and so many of the fight scenes defy anything resembling normal gameplay (by that I mean the *original* board game, not the Mechwarrior PC games). I enjoyed The Jade Phoenix trilogy at age 15, when I didn't know what good reading was. Seriously, Michael Stackpole and Robert Keith Jr. are both much better authors, in my opinion. They also contributed MUCH more to the development of the Battletech universe.
11:56 FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Ironside451 3 weeks ago
Is this show on DVD now?
ozmorphus 1 month ago
@ozmorphus I fucking wish.
NaglfarCommando 4 weeks ago
Good job i like you video n_n
PetitDragon777 1 month ago
I remenber when a was a child saw this cartoon and nown i known a game named "Mechwarriors" several models of mech in the cartoon appear in the game
PetitDragon777 1 month ago
@PetitDragon777 Same universe bro.
AKImeru 1 month ago
Not the best audio quality, but I can make due. Thanks for uploading this series!
I like how the show makes a point of saying the protagonists basically cannot beat the Clans in a straight up Mech fight. Even when they came up with a pretty decent strategy, the tech gap simply brought the clans over it. The protagonists only got away by shear luck. It's far better than a show where they barrel through easily.
Bluecho4 2 months ago 2
@Bluecho4 Add to that, even when massive reinforcements show up, its pretty likely this would have been a turkey shoot for the clanners. The only thing that saved them here was Clan military protocol
weldonwin 1 month ago
Exo Squad looks better
SasNolan 9 months ago
@SasNolan True, their animation studio was definitely higher-grade, but I always hated how everyone had the back of their head shaved.
Then there's the little story of how Playmates (maker of Exosquad toys) blatantly ripped off the Madcat/Timberwolf design for a "Heavy Assault E-Frame". There are toy catalog pictures of it out there online. Thankfully, they were sued before they could get away with it.
autocon2002 3 months ago
@SwordRoy The clans do break their own code, but only if their enemy doesn't honor the code of battle. The clans fight proxy battles to reduce the amount of resources used and civilian deaths for both sides, whereas the IS generally fights all out to win, d@m the cost and the civilian death count.
If you want more information, look for one of the battle tech wikis.
CptWayner 9 months ago
whats with the 3d?!
hyperx72 11 months ago
I love when stiener cuts off the hunchback's arm, instead of hitting it somewhere useful.
NomnomJawsnomnom 11 months ago
This could be the worst rendition BattleTech yet.
"You already gave him your 'Mech, why not just give him your SOUUUULLLL?"
RipYourSpineOut 1 year ago
And seriously?! Battlemechs for civil security?! No one does that.
Significantpower 1 year ago
@Significantpower
Light class Battlemechs as security units are pretty much cannon
strawberryalarmcl0ck 1 year ago
@strawberryalarmcl0ck I seem to remember merc groups using Mechs against civilians getting them blacklisted. And most Sphere states/Clans (certain Periphery states and the Smoke Jaguars excluded) consider Mechs overkill against civil unrest and prefer to use standard infantry or Battle Armor at the most.
Significantpower 1 year ago
@Significantpower Look, all I'm saying is, you see a no parking sign, you don't fucking park there, alright.
LeftoverJedi 7 months ago
that sounds like such a cliche
"they made one big mistake, they attacked my home planet!!" XD
IrishBagel07 1 year ago
If that Mauler was equipped with 2 ER Large Lasers, 2 Gauss Rifles and LRMs, it could have easily smoked that Vulture and Hunchback II.
iHateSpoilerz 1 year ago
@iHateSpoilerz Not exactly. My brothers and I did a test on this a long time ago, Clan Mech vs IS Mechs. Clan Mechs can pretty much take on any IS equivalent Mech, and any up to 20-25 tons heavier than itself. The Mauler, like the Vulture/Mad Dog, is a long range unit. However, the V/MD packs pulse lasers for close range. It's also far faster than the Mauler, which makes it harder to hit. Verdict, They'd be about toe-to-to with each other, but my money would be on the V/MD.
Siolfor80 7 months ago
@Siolfor80 Oh,ok. The My Mauler weapon configuration was in Mechwarrior4. Stuffing Clan/ER weapons in your mech allows you to own other Clan mechs. Figures,lol
iHateSpoilerz 7 months ago
@iHateSpoilerz Yeah, that tends to make a HUGE difference. Given this fight takes place before the Inner Sphere got it's hands on enough CLan Tech to tip the balance, the Vulture/Mad Dog was a beast of a machine. The Timberwolf/Mad Cat even moreso.
Siolfor80 6 months ago
Pause at 10:26 Mech Sizing fail lol how'd that Mauler get so big?
iHateSpoilerz 1 year ago
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900RedChocobo 1 year ago
Great episode, brings back loads of great memories!! Thanks for the uploas. Shame the audio is a bit messed up on this one tho.
ConanTroutmann 1 year ago
Cool use of the speeder bike sound effect from Return of the Jedi; when the aerofighter swoops over the Clan mechs at 09:00.
GeneralThornton 1 year ago
@GeneralThornton I am leaning towards the original tron movie sound fx, but they all bikes.
inlife9 1 year ago
Oh No! They have set up us the bomb! We will not survive, we must make our time. All our base are belong to them!
Automobilie 1 year ago
since when do Centurions have jump jets...?
GhostBear3067 1 year ago
@GhostBear3067 Have you ever heard of 'Customisation" on 'mechs"? Since you posted your comment, I'm assuming you didn't. Pathetic.
Gallowell 1 year ago
@Gallowell
My mistake, I forgot about the CN9-D9, so it is possible.
GhostBear3067 1 year ago
@No worries. I've mistaken a few of the weapons as well, so I can't really talk
Gallowell 1 year ago
So.... Clan Honor Rules Level 4?
JKorent 1 year ago
I honestly would have liked this show if the cut the terrible-looking CG and stuck with hand-drawn goodness. I respect them for taking a chance though... Shame it didn't work out.
crazy88boss 1 year ago
@crazy88boss For a show of the mid 90s, the CGI was cutting edge. I enjoy it still. Refreshing from some of the CGI crap you see in today's cartoons for the kids (most of which is not even needed)
Gallowell 1 year ago
@Gallowell True enough, but the CG wasn't really on par with the animation imo. I guess they needed it to stand apart from similar-looking cartoons. GI Joe comes to mind...
crazy88boss 1 year ago
well the IS force broke it first by retreating, so zell wasnt in effect from then on
learn all of the rules of clan combat before complaining ;)
also this is one of those shows where they have too much going wrong to even try to start complaining
robspartan117 1 year ago
im digging the color on the mauler lol
blitza001 1 year ago
VHS to the rescue!
CaptCamping 1 year ago
while fun to watch, this is obviously inner sphere propoganda! The noble Jade Falcon would never break Zelbringen unless others broke it first!
Korraganitar 1 year ago
@Korraganitar Guess you can't trust those Inner Sphere surats quiaff?
Symos 1 year ago
@Symos aff!
Korraganitar 1 year ago
Great series but it did´nt survive past season one wich was sad!
TheShadowwolf88 1 year ago
I remeber when this series came too childrens channel wich I recorded on VHS(wich was worthless to begin with) The series was really good but sadly never seemed to survive past season one!
Anyone know how to get them on DVD?
TheShadowwolf88 1 year ago
better than anime in 1,000,000,000,000 ways!
zett10 1 year ago
have to say my favorite mech was a highlander, the wardog after that.
thedoctor42209 1 year ago
summoners and timberwolves are my favorite mechs, the right weapony combos with speed and armor.
EmoHedHunter 1 year ago
Why does Nicolae's mech (and other thors for that matter) look different to the official summoner?
Symos 1 year ago
@Symos Its custom
Azrael88demon 1 year ago
gribae you got it all wrong no one weapon is better than the othere one must master combo of mechs that work well with each othere look at the hunchback it need long range cover a archer is best for this mission and the arch can count on the hunchback for close CQC if you fight me I kill ever one of your mechs out right
hurricanebjp 2 years ago
Malthus is coooooooool.
Kemonokami 2 years ago
This was ok but exosquad was a lot better.
pathorne1 2 years ago
I think that they should of started in the series in the beginning. So the people who do not know Battletech know what it is all about. I have just started reading the books and they are wonderful. BTW- I used to play battletech and if I read the books before hand, it would of made a lot of sense then. labelashavoc (:~>?=
labelashavoc 2 years ago
Wade in there with a Daishi loaded with 3 Large Lasers and 2 AC120's.....
HachiKouki 2 years ago
Wow. You guys get INTO it. You're even talking like Clanners. I feel like I'm home. Better stop with the contractions.
recniabsal 2 years ago
@recniabsal Good times, indeed....FREEBORN!!!
Kemonokami 2 years ago
Seyla
gribae 2 years ago
This is one of those moments where you need a few assault class mechs loaded with autocannons and gauss rifles.
Intrafacial86 2 years ago
which runs out of ammo if over used
bomerman104 2 years ago
True, but you just gotta load up enough ammo and shoot smart.
Intrafacial86 2 years ago
ya but only problem is that when you stock up on to much ammo your mech is to overweight to be able to use any of the good stuff lol
bomerman104 2 years ago
Yeah, that's true. IS weaponry ain't all that good — especially the ballistic weaponry. I also have to admit that when I make mechs they generally have energy weapons and/or missile weapons. I hardly ever use ballistics.
Intrafacial86 2 years ago
I never used ballistic weapons. Energy all the way. Learn to master the heat and you master the battlefield.
gribae 2 years ago
hahaha i hear that, but i love AC's.
TheFrostedLlama 2 years ago
@TheFrostedLlama My favorite is actually an AC/20 combined with a gauss rifle... its like bringing a grenade launcher to the gunfight at the OK corral...
ajferet 2 years ago
@gribae tell that to my AC/20
gbxhdz 1 year ago
this is awsome
noonpwner1234543 2 years ago
Running away from combat, thats not like the clans.
depholade 2 years ago 18
@depholade depends on the clan :P
robspartan117 1 year ago
@robspartan117 This show is obviously pure freebirth propaganda. The clans always fight with honor.
depholade 1 year ago
@depholade thats not true at all. main example - TURTLE BAY
robspartan117 1 year ago
@robspartan117 Clan Smoke Jaguar's actions at turtle bay were disgraceful. killing civilians from orbit. They are Dezgra.
depholade 1 year ago
@depholade its not retrating, its regrouping
c4167 5 months ago
I find it interesting that they could drop a Maddog like that without destroying it. I mean, that mech doesn't have jets, does it? So a drop like THAT would be worse than a failed DFA attempt. ;)
CrashFu 2 years ago
Heh. I have some hilarious stories about failed DFA's. They involve jumping from elevation 6 buildings and failing entirely. But those are for another time.
xxMachineGunKellyxx 2 years ago
@xxMachineGunKellyxx I like how those CJF mechs jump down when the dropships are descending. I'd be laughing out loud if they busted their actuators from that.
*CRUNCH* "whoops, that was dumb!"
Kemonokami 2 years ago
If they followed the norm of BT/MW, they should have busted them. Even from that height, with jump jets, they couldn't land without seriously damaging something.
I guess this is the result of it being aimed at a children-based audience though.
gribae 2 years ago
These Clanners are breaking their own code of Honor, The Zellbringen! 2 clanners to 1 innersphere Mechwarrior, shooting at the backs of their enemies, and shooting downed mechs; Clear violation of Zellbringen. Our Ares conventions I can understand, but their own code of honor? At least we "freeborn scum" almost always follow the Ares Conventions...
SwordlordRoy 2 years ago 11
Zellbrigen was different for each of the clans. 2 25 ton lights engaging a 75 ton heavy was considered perfectly fine under Zell. As was maneuvering to hit the rear armor on an enemy and shooting a prone enemy.
You're probably getting your info on Zell from Sarna. Word to the wise: They're a wiki, their information is not accurate. You're better off reading the novels and CBT sourcebooks.
Reconcilliation 2 years ago
Yes, but they're still breaking it because there's one medium (Hunchback IIC) and one heavy (Mad Dog).
Logan912 2 years ago
To explain how the ares convention applies you must qoute an old old long dead man. "its more as a set of guidelines then rules"
ottselguy 2 years ago
@SwordlordRoy
jade falcon always was the whiniest and most dirty of the clans
CWScott24 1 year ago
@SwordlordRoy
you're forgetting that according to the creators, this cartoon exists in-universe as FedCom propaganda
Guyect 1 year ago
@Guyect
huh, i didnt kn ow that lol
robspartan117 1 year ago
@SwordlordRoy The Falcons were always notable for their lack of adherence to Clan ideals when fighting "lesser" warriors. It's only a minor breach if your opponent can barely be considered a warrior at all, quiaff?
bayruun 1 year ago 2
@SwordlordRoy
well the IS force broke it first by retreating, so zell wasnt in effect from then on
learn all of the rules of clan combat before complaining ;)
also this is one of those shows where they have too much going wrong to even try to start complaining
robspartan117 1 year ago
@robspartan117 zell is still in effect if the IS retreat, the only record of zell not being in effect and as such, no code of honour would be during huntress :)
HespIsJohnGalt 1 year ago
@HespIsJohnGalt no, zell is broken when a force turns tail and retreats and shows their backs.
actually a lot of clans gave up zell before/during operation serpent and bulldog. ghost bear and wolf were two of the first to throw that idea out the door.
robspartan117 1 year ago
@robspartan117 Clan Jade Falcon was perhaps the last to give it up (if they even gave it up at all) since they were the most bound to the ideals of Clan ways and life.
Gallowell 1 year ago
@Gallowell thats debatable at best. each clan's society is different, and each believes that their way of interpreting of how a clan should operate is correct.
the jade falcons gave on many occasions, just it was always after they got their noses bloodied. thats why for a while they didnt attack anyone, they provoked too many people and ended up being pushed back into their territory with only a few clusters to protect it all.
you must be a falcon fan. ;P
not to mention they had a civil war
robspartan117 1 year ago
@HespIsJohnGalt Well, that was a Trial of Annihilation, so very little of the Clan honour system would have stayed in place for that.
Gallowell 1 year ago
@Gallowell wrong, their are clan rules of engagement for every trial.
robspartan117 1 year ago
@SwordlordRoy Well, all of us except the Drunk on Heaven Blakists. The FWL can keep 'em.
laserbeak1984 1 year ago
@SwordlordRoy well remember that the clans didnt think that the spheroids didnt have the honor to deserve such an honor unless it was against a force that was known to at least be able to hold its own against them.
plus the falcons are always without honor
robspartan117 1 year ago
@robspartan117 do not disrespect the falcons or be prepared to face a Trial of Grievance
depholade 1 year ago
@depholade i do not acknowledge your authority to such a trial, or any trial for that matter
:D
PWND (just playing of course, because im a Wolf fan - we've beaten you on more than 3 occasions, so not terribly worried)
robspartan117 1 year ago
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depholade 1 year ago
@robspartan117 I clame my right of a trial of bloodright as myself being in holding of the bloodname Roshak. Seeing on how it is not up to you to decide if I have a clame or not, your opinion matters little. The decision is up to the Clan Councle.
(MW4:Mercs is free now days so if you think you've got what it takes, message me and we'll bring this to an honor duel. Of course, provided we fallow the rules of honor strictly and appoint a councle of equals)
depholade 1 year ago
@depholade I'll gladly take you up on an honour duel. Any time, and to any of your specifications. I'll even use a Dasher against any of the Assault-class you and others like you prefer to choose.
I've taken down 2 Dire Wolves and a Timber Wolf in nothing but a Crab.
Gallowell 1 year ago
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@Gallowell you boast too highly of your skills.
message me if you're truly interested.
depholade 1 year ago
@SwordlordRoy could be they are really die hard crusdars and have declared this bunch to be dezgra.
remx15 1 year ago
@SwordlordRoy Super late comment (sorry about that) but this cartoon was known for basically throwing the canon to the winds. Battlemechs in space, Clanners acting like mercs, you name it.
Significantpower 1 year ago
@Significantpower Yet BattleMechs CAN operate in space - as evidenced in the game: MechWarrior 2: Mercenaries and detailed in a number of BattleTech and MechWarrior books
Gallowell 10 months ago
@Significantpower Mechs can operate in spaces, just need jump jets or magnetic tethers (both mentioned in the books). The clans in the series didnt act like mercs, they always go to a planet and ask, "With what will you defend yourselves?" How the IS planet leaders respond is up to them. If the more illegal groups saw an advantage (since the clans operate on a caste), the illegal groups could get away with what they want.
Siolfor80 7 months ago
@Siolfor80
i know what jump jets are but magnetic tethers what are those, also do jump jet have infinite fuel???
octoslut 4 months ago
@octoslut Magnetic tethers are essentially muscle wire bundles (like the same stuff that allows mechs to move) that allow a mech to operate in Lo-G environments. If they ever float off, they put energy to the tether, and snap back to the surface they're attached. As for jump jets, they require time to build up reaction mass. Mech dont use fuel at all (except low tech versions). They can jump for as long as needed, but only until the reaction runs out.
Siolfor80 4 months ago
@Siolfor80 i am a huge gundam fan but prefer the battletech universe to gundam universe. reason is simple mechs are not overpowered, have more variety in models then gundam, plot compared to most gundam series is better. do you know if they make mech model kits???
octoslut 4 months ago
@octoslut Model Kits, miniature games (Battletech, Mechwarrior: Dark Ages), books (which is where i found out about the tethers), etc. It was pretty popular back in the 90s before wizkids bought it out (and honestly screwed it the hell up). The best known kit is for the Mad Cat/Timberwolf (the mech with the chicken legs and a box of missle launchers over each shoulder). Whether or not they still make it, I dunno . . . it was about $80 about 10 years ago.
Siolfor80 4 months ago
@Siolfor80
lol i know what a madcat is, its like the most famous mech along with atlas, vulture. i would love to see the battletech universe be revived.
octoslut 4 months ago
@octoslut Sorry about that, dunno who does/doesn't know the mechs and their designations. As far as reviving the universe, there was a rumor going around that FASA is trying to get the rights to it again. True or not, dunno.
Siolfor80 4 months ago
"Initiating enhanced 3D"
What?
samapico 2 years ago
Damn, I miss cheezy animated shows like this. Especially Battletech!
JSharp81 2 years ago
Clanners are such nerds
sdrawkcabgnipytmi 2 years ago 2
Bah! you innersphear surats are the nerds! your fire power is inferior to ours! we will make you regret that comment! i challenge you to a trial of equals!
HunterZeroModding 2 years ago
Lol nice!
nelsonmars 2 years ago
A trial of grievance?
Barcode711 2 years ago
No, trial of equals, to see WHO is the better mechwarrior.
HunterZeroModding 2 years ago
a trial of tits
tyrannicoystercult 2 years ago
The intersphere has low graded weopons clanners win
demoniclord91367 2 years ago
Too true. Thats why my mercs always steal the very best. My arsenal is always kept chockfull of clanner weapons :)
ciprianobabula 2 years ago
Hey!! Its was acting like packrats and scavangers that helped us tip the clans tech advantage. "information is ammunition " Like Major Adam said. And we got ALOT OF INFORMATION from strippng down every single bit of clan tech would steal with our freedom born hands. yeah thats right I SAID FREEDOM BORN.. ya damn trashcan babies. Ya know eugenics even if done right can lead to genentic illnesses of the brain..... Guess that explains clan arrogance.
ottselguy 2 years ago 5
Im saying in the Games inner sphere weopons do less damage. and Clan weopons do way more and there recycle time is quicker. Clan Lrms can lock onto targets from further distances.
demoniclord91367 2 years ago
In the games, books AND animation, everything about the Clans is superior (except their attitude). But that is only because they didn't spend the last 300 years bogged down in the endless Succession Wars and could concentrate on technological advancements.
gribae 2 years ago 2
lol thy forgot to search for weapons before throwing them in jail...
ravenshines 3 years ago
Down with the IS
JadeDarkness8822 3 years ago
GOD FORBID THEY SEARCH THE PRISONERS.
FC3STORMENTOR 3 years ago
"How do you know I didn't make copies" Always gets them.
OverwatchSniper 3 years ago
Man the sound quality on this vid is HORRIBLE!
Icaras01 3 years ago 4
you wont find anything better, i can tell you that. i have been looking for good quality vids for forever.
EvilKenny1983 3 years ago
at least it's synced.
tcgiant 3 years ago
at least we can watch it.
Raptor4000 2 years ago
The only mechwarrioirs ive ever played are 2 and 4. I dont remember much from the 2 but i still play the 4. Im not very good at it XD. Love these cartoons!!! Hope tehy bring em back but w/ a bottomless budget lol.
ThePuhlayuhofgames 3 years ago
play 3
ctruman 3 years ago
4 is better then 3, although i really enjoyed 3 aswell.
EvilKenny1983 3 years ago
sure
ctruman 3 years ago
GREAT AUDIO QUALITY.
ORUPRANKSTAZ 3 years ago 2
LOL
nordicberserk 3 years ago
Wizkids is the devil. Bring me FASA or bring me DEATH!
skyefox 3 years ago 3
Well, I find the whole casting the clans as your typical evil exceedingly cliche and boring; not to mention against the classical battletech depiction. Then again, I guess this tv show was marketed to 8 year olds. And of course we can't have ambiguity in our good and evil when it comes to childrens television shows; we need to dumb everything down.
MetaVita 3 years ago
Good point, there are interesting points for the Inner Sphere/Clan political system.
Though since the Clans are Socialists, I wouldn't want to live under a pure Caste-type system where your family's labor assignment is on family history (so if your dad's a factory worker, you will be also.)
If I lived in the fictional Battletech universe I'd prefer living in the Federated Suns or in the Free Worlds League pre-Word of Blake jihad era. Rasalhague would also be nice- the only true I.S democracy.
jregley 3 years ago
Or marketed to people in general who dont give a rats behind about BT politics. Who just watch tv.
jimmyjimjam01 3 years ago
And I suppose you prefer the traditional approach to villians, wearing all black and have long moustaches and sinister laughs?
gribae 3 years ago
You didn't read what MetaVita was actually saying. The Battletech storyline doesn't really paint the clans with the "Snidely Whiplash" brush that most cartoons depict.
I'd say the most horrible thing that ever happened in the history of BT was the Kentares IV Massacre - though that is definitely not suitable for a Saturday-morning cartoon.
Seamus451 3 years ago
Excluding the canonical errors and sloppy animation in parts, the animated series isn't too bad. Could have been much better, but what more could you do with a limited budget. :D
PlanckLimit 3 years ago
fuck the enhanced imaging...
Renegen1 3 years ago 2
Sound in first one was alot better :s
Kennyboy0077 4 years ago
Sorta suffers from character introductionitis but I'm a fan of anything BT so whatever
GETURPOPCRNRDY 4 years ago
Oh man this used to come on just after or two shows after War Planets, one of the shows that fit my highlight Sunday mornings on UPN.
FatalFist 4 years ago
i never knew that there was a show based on mechwarrir battlemechs.
rodo678 4 years ago
I should mention that the "Mechwarrior" games are based on the boardgame "Battletech".
"Battletech" released in the early-to-mid eighties, and continued until the death of FASA in 2000, after which Wizkids picked it up.
Sadly, it hasn't regained the popularity it once had.
Perykvaal 4 years ago
It should be noted that the original founder of FASA and his new company now have the rights to Mechwarrior and other FASA interactive titles again. This happend recently (december 6th) and if you do a search you can read all about it.
x1n933k 4 years ago
Wonderful!
What's the name of the new company? *IS* it Wizkids, or did the guy starts something new entirely, and buy the rights back from Wizkids?
Perykvaal 4 years ago
This new company is Smith & Tinker, I believe. Seems to be out to develop gaming on teh internets instead of the "old fashioned" tabletop pnp stuff. I always loved the rich universes on those FASA IPs. Should be interesting.
Kissamiess 3 years ago
Yea unfortunatley video games lead to the death or at least steep decline of many strategy / pen and paper game companys.
KadenXx 4 years ago
How on *earth* did they get a Centurion to fly THAT far?
Perykvaal 4 years ago
Install jump jets
Sulaco1001 4 years ago
hey do u have anymore vids u can post ty
battletechhero 4 years ago
This was one of the major goofs of the series: The mechs take alot to overheat, and overheating does not equal explosion. However, if they redid the series right now, it'd be fucking awesome.
NemFX 4 years ago
I am me; driving a blood kite.
smlemk42 4 years ago
wolf dragoons
spooky767 4 years ago
finally some one with mercenary sense
theFkey 4 years ago
If you are new to Battletech try reading: Battletech: Legend of the Jade Phoenix, Volume 1. I beleive that this book is the best intro to the the B-Tech universe. It got me "HOOKED" , and I still read it. I am still re-reading all my "Tech" books, they are the best works of sci-fi literature... In my opinion!
SCIFI2010 4 years ago
the Aidan Pryde's story.
One of the well written set of books this side of original's Dune books.
smlemk42 4 years ago
I should clarify that depending on the age group, some sci-fi books will be better suited than others. I agree, the Dune series is very ceribral and the sci-fi is non-par, but then again, it requires a mature audience. My comment was directed to a younger audience, and as such Battletech is among the best.
SCIFI2010 4 years ago
::nod in absolute agreement::
smlemk42 4 years ago
Good story, true, but the number of convenient head hits Aidan and company got was nothing short of biblical...!
the567thDoctor 4 years ago
I have to agree with the Doctor on that: Aidan Pryde is given god-like luck, and so many of the fight scenes defy anything resembling normal gameplay (by that I mean the *original* board game, not the Mechwarrior PC games). I enjoyed The Jade Phoenix trilogy at age 15, when I didn't know what good reading was.
Seriously, Michael Stackpole and Robert Keith Jr. are both much better authors, in my opinion. They also contributed MUCH more to the development of the Battletech universe.
Perykvaal 4 years ago
I have to agree with the Doctor on that: Aidan Pryde is given god-like luck, and so many of the fight scenes defy anything resembling normal gameplay (by that I mean the *original* board game, not the Mechwarrior PC games). I enjoyed The Jade Phoenix trilogy at age 15, when I didn't know what good reading was. Seriously, Michael Stackpole and Robert Keith Jr. are both much better authors, in my opinion. They also contributed MUCH more to the development of the Battletech universe.
Perykvaal 4 years ago
amen to that! Love Mike and Rob's work. I really liked the Blood of Krensky Trilogy and the Jade Phoenix Trilogy.
KewneRain 4 years ago
*sigh* if only it would load.
Lokivoid 4 years ago
I am Clan Ghost Bear.
68Romeo 4 years ago